Australatina 05/17/2017 - the anglo-australatina war of 2018, aka the seven-day war - "I wrote this shit up this morning, I have no life"

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DT.Miller powiedział(a):
Just a little sperging here but American tanks are good really good most of the world use old soviet cast off's that are not much better than ww2 designs so they are cheap an simple to produce but not much good against something like an Abrams or the British Challenger (only tank in the world to have a confirmed helicopter kill btw) it's a reflection of the military and cultural philosophies of their originating countries reflected in pure design.

Btw do you know what they call Tanks in Urban Battlefields? -------- Roadblocks.
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Yeah, Western tank design is incredibly practical considering everything else we do. Thought he Leopard family isn't on par with the Abrams or the Challenger according to some tank spergs I know. I could see Australatina being a shit show country fielding T-54s and a few knock off T-14s (which looks like a generic tank from an early VR game) and touting the obsolescence of Western arms while losing 3/4ths of their tanks in a civil war against rebels only armed with RPG-7s and propane tank mortars because autoloaders and shit armor don't make for a good design.

Also, tanks do great in urban warfare assuming they're well made, protected by infantry, you don't give a shit about civilian damages/deaths and the crews don't stop for anything
 
TiggerNits powiedział(a):
Also, tanks do great in urban warfare assuming they're well made, protected by infantry, you don't give a shit about civilian damages/deaths and the crews don't stop for anything
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Eh that's debatable, modern tanks can survive well but most tanks are as you said cheaply made and poorly maintained, hell have you seen Russias own tanks? they can barely run most of them because they have just been sitting and rusting for the last few decades, most of the ones they sell or give away are pieced together from several other hulls.

But I fear we are getting off topic.
 
DT.Miller powiedział(a):
Eh that's debatable, modern tanks can survive well but most tanks are as you said cheaply made and poorly maintained, hell have you seen Russias own tanks? they can barely run most of them because they have just been sitting and rusting for the last few decades, most of the ones they sell or give away are pieced together from several other hulls.

But I fear we are getting off topic.
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I know we're way off topic here so I'll take the stickers for it, but that's actually a fun anecdote

Iraqi troops, right around the time we were pulling out, were given Abrams after years of using export T-72s. They would immediately abandon their M1s the moment they would take ANY kind of fire, be it mortar, RPG or even AK rounds. The trainers we had sent over to teach them to use the tanks ended up getting called back in country to try and address the issue.

The Iraqi tankers explained that in the T-72's and 64s they had been using, that the armor failed after a single low power mortar shot and the engines could be taken out with a few hits from a .50 cal/DshKa and they had been instructed for years to just flee when the tank took any kind of purposeful fire. The American instructors tried to explain that the Abrams didn't have these problems, but the Iraqi soldiers were pretty much "We've heard that shit before from the fucking Russians, you asshole"

So a few instructors nutted up and had them grab a tank of their choice off the line and then got in it, while some other Iraqi soldiers shot it with 40mm rifle grenades and 2 hits from an RPG, then a few bursts from a deuce. Afterward they drove it around, got out of the tank, walked over to the tankers and told them to stop abandoning their tanks.
 
The funniest bit about Phil's wannabe Six-Day War is that the US doesn't completely fuck the Australatina military. He seems to believe that the US would place its entire airforce in two or three airbases, take over Canadian airbases, and have ships made out of paper mache. And correct me if this is wrong, but his "nation" invaded Canada, which would have NATO coming down on the side of the USA.

The economy of his imaginary nation state is going to collapse from calling up its reserves, but that was already covered in the post by @Alex Krycek.
 
SoberBlitz powiedział(a):
The funniest bit about Phil's wannabe Six-Day War is that the US doesn't completely fuck the Australatina military. He seems to believe that the US would place its entire airforce in two or three airbases, take over Canadian airbases, and have ships made out of paper mache. And correct me if this is wrong, but his "nation" invaded Canada, which would have NATO coming down on the side of the USA.
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He also assumes that Pmurt won't open up the nuclear football and rain atomic hellfire upon Autismland. That man does not take losing well. I imagine MIRVs are nigh impossible to intercept and even one's gonna do a lot of damage.
 
Phil really doesn't understand war, the US Military, the US/Canada military alliance stretching back to the beginning of the Cold War, nor military technology.

At best Autismlandia's military, if it were a real country, would have very outdated equipment, most likely Chinese and North Korean copies of old 60's era Soviet designs. They simply wouldn't be able to afford anything on par with current US equipment.

So this mental masturbation over Autismlandia shooting down 80% of US missiles, giving our mechanized armor and air forces a spanking, and getting successful air strikes on US population centers is an absolute laugh riot. Not to mention sinking two Nimitz or Ford class air craft carriers which are equipped with Phalanx 20mm Close-In Weapons Systems specifically designed to shoot down Soviet era anti-ship missiles.

Then factor in the USAF's A-10 Warthog aircraft and it's 30mm Avenger cannon which would chew up ADF's tank forces with ease, the anti-aircraft/anti-missile capability of the US Navy's AEGIS cruisers, our stealth fighter and bomber aircraft, and four branches of professional military personnel who have spent more than a decade in constant war, unlike Autismlandia's defense force of poorly trained conscripts.

And that's not even factoring in the ease of us being able to shut down the entire country via EMP by air burst detonation of a single B83 1.2 Megaton thermonuclear warhead at an altitude sufficient to kill all the electricity in Autismlandia, but not so high as to cause damage to US or Canadian electrical grids. We wouldn't need to nuke them, just knock out their ability to generate power and sit back as they all die of starvation and disease.

tl;dr Phil has no understanding of military tactics and strategy, and he grossly overestimates the abilities of his iminary country.
 
DT.Miller powiedział(a):
From Phil this counts as a major creative effort, but I'd like to point out that is is him escaping into facts and figures again a point when map making doesn't cut the mustard anymore and he really wants to escape from something - at the moment there is a few things really riding his arse but something might be about ready to nudge him into full Chimp.
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This was my exact thought after reading three sentences into this mess. It's arguably the most intricate MakeBelieveLand thing he's ever done, at least in text form. I'm thinking he must be at record stress levels. Do you concur?
 
The Dude powiedział(a):
Phil really doesn't understand war, the US Military, the US/Canada military alliance stretching back to the beginning of the Cold War, nor military technology.

At best Autismlandia's military, if it were a real country, would have very outdated equipment, most likely Chinese and North Korean copies of old 60's era Soviet designs. They simply wouldn't be able to afford anything on par with current US equipment.

So this mental masturbation over Autismlandia shooting down 80% of US missiles, giving our mechanized armor and air forces a spanking, and getting successful air strikes on US population centers is an absolute laugh riot. Not to mention sinking two Nimitz or Ford class air craft carriers which are equipped with Phalanx 20mm Close-In Weapons Systems specifically designed to shoot down Soviet era anti-ship missiles.

Then factor in the USAF's A-10 Warthog aircraft and it's 30mm Avenger cannon which would chew up ADF's tank forces with ease, the anti-aircraft/anti-missile capability of the US Navy's AEGIS cruisers, our stealth fighter and bomber aircraft, and four branches of professional military personnel who have spent more than a decade in constant war, unlike Autismlandia's defense force of poorly trained conscripts.

And that's not even factoring in the ease of us being able to shut down the entire country via EMP by air burst detonation of a single B83 1.2 Megaton thermonuclear warhead at an altitude sufficient to kill all the electricity in Autismlandia, but not so high as to cause damage to US or Canadian electrical grids. We wouldn't need to nuke them, just knock out their ability to generate power and sit back as they all die of starvation and disease.

tl;dr Phil has no understanding of military tactics and strategy, and he grossly overestimates the abilities of his iminary country.
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What I don't get is, Phil's country is already a complete impossibility in a geologic or geographic sense. The economic and sociological descriptions Phil gives them bear no resemblance to anything that could actually exist in the real world. So, if he's just completely making things up with no regard for their likelihood of actually existing, why not give Autismland's military some lightsabers, photon torpedoes, and megazords?
 
ChurchOfGodBear powiedział(a):
What I don't get is, Phil's country is already a complete impossibility in a geologic or geographic sense. The economic and sociological descriptions Phil gives them bear no resemblance to anything that could actually exist in the real world. So, if he's just completely making things up with no regard for their likelihood of actually existing, why not give Autismland's military some lightsabers, photon torpedoes, and megazords?
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They have volcanoes despite not being anywhere near an active vein of lava, what more could they possibly fucking need? Competence?
 
ChurchOfGodBear powiedział(a):
What I don't get is, Phil's country is already a complete impossibility in a geologic or geographic sense. The economic and sociological descriptions Phil gives them bear no resemblance to anything that could actually exist in the real world. So, if he's just completely making things up with no regard for their likelihood of actually existing, why not give Autismland's military some lightsabers, photon torpedoes, and megazords?
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Because Phil has no imagination and probably some bullshit about transmisogynistic sci-fi geek dudebros.

breadandcircuses powiedział(a):
How is it Trump's War...?

I'm just curious...

The ADF attacked first.
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Because Trump provoked them due to some Tumblr word salad bullshit like toxic hetero masculine patriarchy and the oppression of tranny Pee Oh Seasons. And reasons.
 
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