Zoomer Kiwi Central / Serious Gen Z Discussion - A place for Zoomers to have a discussion about the Gen Z and their future

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It is kind of over for a lot of us to be fair. There isn't a lot to live for a good chunk of Gen Z, (no good jobs, poor economy, not religious, no dating life, no friends etc.)
Well, imho that is just not accurate overall I think.
Sure if the economy and jobs stink and are hard to find, there is always happiness to be found in life. I am blessed to have a job but I am poor, but that is okay! I just go to church, spend time here, and read my books.

I think whats really hard for most people to do (including myself most days) is to re-orient your perception towards the good in life rather than the bad. Single? No Friends? More time to spend on your hobbies or explore places on your own (and often cheaper!), no job due to poor economy? Well, that is awful true but you can use that time to improve your skills, and work on other hobbies while trying to get a job!

Tldr its just perception. I think a lot of zoomers are really captured by doomersim and just are not able (Or unwilling) to look beyond that
 
Sure if the economy and jobs stink and are hard to find, there is always happiness to be found in life. I am blessed to have a job but I am poor, but that is okay! I just go to church, spend time here, and read my books.
There are those among Gen Z who are really passionate about their jobs/activities, or are really dedicated to their religion, but not all of us are like that. A lot of people I know just don't have hobbies at all; they have nothing to be passionate about and prefer to just doomscroll on Instagram reels. Sure, they have jobs or whatever, but they hate their jobs and don't have time to do much else. A lot of people just fill that void by knocking about at clubs or going drinking, but it never quite works.
I personally do go to a church, but I don't have hobbies beyond that, unless you count Kiwi Farms as a hobby. I'm right now just trying to hold on to the friends I've made in uni, I don't know what life has in store for me afterwards though.
 
I'm more tired of these assholes than the shit they're talking about. Wah wah, everythings bad, we have it the worst, we are the victims wah wah wah, kill yourself NOW. All this doomer talk is just more of the same victim mentality that progressivism promoted during the 2010s. I'm so fucking sick of EVERYONE claiming victimhood.
 
It is kind of over for a lot of us to be fair. There isn't a lot to live for a good chunk of Gen Z, (no good jobs, poor economy, not religious, no dating life, no friends etc.)
Nigger this isn't nowhere near as bad as anything else in history. No good jobs means you waffle around for another decade, it doesn't mean you starve to death. Poor economy means that you can barely spare savings not that anything you've ever gotten in your life now being worthless. Not religious? Find Jesus He's not exactly hard to find. No dating life, No friends... If no Zoomer can find friends and GFs but we're all looking for them, in theory then in shouldn't be that hard to find them, unless. Nobody is actually searching for such a thing anymore.

Zoomers have taken a truth, that things are worse than they were and stretched it into a few fictions:
Things are unbearable.
Things will never get better.
There is nothing you can do to better yourself.
And that is so blatantly false it just makes you seem like a massive faggot and I do not want to spend time with you. Guess I solved the no friend and no GF problem after all.
 
Why is it that zoomers are so enamored with social media? Even when I was young and impressionable, I never thought that social media ever really had any actual value for humans. Like, I always thought to myself "what the fuck did Snapchat ever do for you? Lets you talk to friends who you see every day you go to school?" And that's not to mention the monumental bullshit behind Facebook and Twitter. I had a bad feeling deep inside that social media was going to be the downfall of regular human communication, and it seems for the most part, I was pretty spot-on.
You're definitely in the minority with that opinion. When I first got access to the Internet it felt like I had the world handed to me. You could find so much cool and niche stuff on there that it beat out any other form of entertainment/media that wasn't irl. The Internet in general became way worse with the mainstreaming of social media, but we as a generation have gone to it as our de facto means of communication and have adjusted to the enshittification like frogs boiling in a pot.
It is kind of over for a lot of us to be fair. There isn't a lot to live for a good chunk of Gen Z, (no good jobs, poor economy, not religious, no dating life, no friends etc.)
I feel like it's harder now more than ever to get a regular, middle-of-the-road job through traditional means, but also easier than ever to go off and financially support yourself by doing your own thing if you have the skill/talent, motivation, and determination for it. The near future is going to be really good for the exceptional and real bad for those who aren't.
Well, imho that is just not accurate overall I think.
Sure if the economy and jobs stink and are hard to find, there is always happiness to be found in life. I am blessed to have a job but I am poor, but that is okay! I just go to church, spend time here, and read my books.

I think whats really hard for most people to do (including myself most days) is to re-orient your perception towards the good in life rather than the bad. Single? No Friends? More time to spend on your hobbies or explore places on your own (and often cheaper!), no job due to poor economy? Well, that is awful true but you can use that time to improve your skills, and work on other hobbies while trying to get a job!

Tldr its just perception. I think a lot of zoomers are really captured by doomersim and just are not able (Or unwilling) to look beyond that
Your comments are very refreshing to read. Hope things go well for you in life, fren.
I'm more tired of these assholes than the shit they're talking about. Wah wah, everythings bad, we have it the worst, we are the victims wah wah wah, kill yourself NOW. All this doomer talk is just more of the same victim mentality that progressivism promoted during the 2010s. I'm so fucking sick of EVERYONE claiming victimhood.
The three most oppressed groups, in ascending order of oppression, are:
1) Zoomers
2) Gamers
3) Furries
And I demand reparations for my years of mistreatment.
 
I feel like it's harder now more than ever to get a regular, middle-of-the-road job through traditional means, but also easier than ever to go off and financially support yourself by doing your own thing if you have the skill/talent, motivation, and determination for it. The near future is going to be really good for the exceptional and real bad for those who aren't.
In my own experience, yeah, I think what has disappeared nowadays is just that idea of a simple 9-5 where you just clock in, try to look busy and follow a few orders, and then head home and do fuck all for the rest of your day. I've only managed to find work that involves jumping through insane hoops with peculiar schizophrenic scheduling and strange assignments. All of these jobs have actually payed pretty decently, but the safe predictability you think of when you think of a typical young adult job has essentially been completely nullified out of the equation. Gen Z can't afford to passively do a mediocre job and go home, we're entering a shift where you kinda HAVE to be dedicated to your job and heavily specialize in order to survive. Media like Clerks and Regular Show feel like time capsules of a dead culture that can't exist anymore and I find it quite fascinating to reflect upon because I remember my old friends idolizing that sort of lifestyle back in the day. This idea that you can just get a shitty job you don't give a fuck about, while still having enough money to live decently and enough free time to get high on le epic weed with your brooos. In my opinion it isn't THAT much harder to find a job, the only difference is that the bar has been raised and you kinda have to care about what you're doing now if you want to make it, along with tolerating the complete insanity of modern work.
 
In my own experience, yeah, I think what has disappeared nowadays is just that idea of a simple 9-5 where you just clock in, try to look busy and follow a few orders, and then head home and do fuck all for the rest of your day. I've only managed to find work that involves jumping through insane hoops with peculiar schizophrenic scheduling and strange assignments. All of these jobs have actually payed pretty decently, but the safe predictability you think of when you think of a typical young adult job has essentially been completely nullified out of the equation. Gen Z can't afford to passively do a mediocre job and go home, we're entering a shift where you kinda HAVE to be dedicated to your job and heavily specialize in order to survive. Media like Clerks and Regular Show feel like time capsules of a dead culture that can't exist anymore and I find it quite fascinating to reflect upon because I remember my old friends idolizing that sort of lifestyle back in the day. This idea that you can just get a shitty job you don't give a fuck about, while still having enough money to live decently and enough free time to get high on le epic weed with your brooos. In my opinion it isn't THAT much harder to find a job, the only difference is that the bar has been raised and you kinda have to care about what you're doing now if you want to make it, along with tolerating the complete insanity of modern work.
It's amazing how much I relate to this. The corporations are doing everything in their power to make everything more gay that life is losing meaning with each passing day. Everything is trojan horse now. "Flexible timings" means you can be called in the middle of the night cause someone needed an idiot to shove off load to. Every job requires a million different tests and interviews, cause you have to demonstrate how much you can lick the boot, gun to head. You have retarded gay, brown and nigger colleagues who smoke weed and cannot comprehend a world beyond their daily pathetic lives. While going home you gotta dodge dodgy people on the bus or the streets or subway. Once you go home and make a single person meal for yourself, you sit in front of niggerfaggot goyslop on the tv or you play the pozzed aids game which released last week or you go on reddit/discord/twitter and see how gay everything is or youre on a dating app swiping on everything, wishing you had someone or you're jerking off on the toilet with porn on your phone. And when you get fired by the mangy hr bitch for one misstep, you want to stand in front of the bathroom mirror and kill yourself, cause men don't go home and cry to their parents. You don't want to go to the bar or have a smoke cause you're worried about health problems, while your health is on the decline being raped by a corpo for the few extra shekels increase in stock price. You don't even know you'll make it next year with the stress, medications, finances and whatnot. You're the first generation who's witnessing all their beloved things and cherished memories being burned to the ground and all the promises made being violated first hand. Why wouldn't I *insert fedpost*, this fucking sucks and if I had the chance to make people suffer Id take it, gladly, justifiably. I hope there's a revolution of some form in the next 10 years, I can't do this shit and I want wall street, nyc, california, israel, any and all responsible to suffer. I'm not gonna get a good wife, great kids, time for hobbies and such, I might as well have a ceos head on a pike mounted at the center of times square.
Nigger this isn't nowhere near as bad as anything else in history.
It is the worst it's been in the past 70 years, since the end of the war. Sure, technology and living standards have improved, but it's not worth the price paid in terms of negatives. You got depressed wages, terrible community, corporate shenanigans, full of gay nigger shit, useless education, no relationships, mental illnesses and more. And that's all only within the last 7 years or so, especially after Covid. What's been positive since Covid, there has been nothing of worth and probably never will be.
 
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Sure, technology and living standards have improved, but it's not worth the price paid in terms of negatives. You got depressed wages, terrible community, corporate shenanigans, full of gay nigger shit, useless education, no relationships, mental illnesses and more.
Yeah but there's not much of a point in being a doomer about it. Sure you can withdraw from society and not contribute to propping it up but where does that get you once it falls apart. You're still a fat loser (maybe not you specifically but in my case) who never did anything that matters. Better to just focus on yourself and improve. Most of your other difficulties become less when you just focus on yourself. Obviously there's lots of things that suck right now but if you just doom you won't be in a position to make things better for yourself or anyone else. I also want to say that it's never over, don't fall for the liberal end of history bs, if you ever think it's over remember that Muslims had taken over nearly all of Spain and that a few guys in some mountains started the several hundred year process of finally expelling them. All it takes to win is just never give up and always put in more effort than your enemy. You won't win every battle but at the end of the day if you and people like you keep at it you will win.

This is what I've been doing and it has meaningfully made my life better. I'm still having some of the same issues you mentioned but I'm not giving up hope for a better future since that's as gay.
 
I'm more tired of these assholes than the shit they're talking about. Wah wah, everythings bad, we have it the worst, we are the victims wah wah wah, kill yourself NOW. All this doomer talk is just more of the same victim mentality that progressivism promoted during the 2010s. I'm so fucking sick of EVERYONE claiming victimhood.
Doomerism is ultimately the most cowardly way to view the world. Sure, shit is terrible right now but bitching about it online without even thinking of self-improvement isn't helping anyone. My advice to my fellow Zoomers is this; Stop being a faggot and work on yourself. Maybe then will you see the world differently.
 
There are those among Gen Z who are really passionate about their jobs/activities
Because they face romantic failure, financial failure, social failure, lack of third places, no sense of belonging nor being rewarded for partaking. They finally get a job and they got a dollar-amount put on their hourly attendance. None of those who go "hell yeah #grind #hustle" actually work well-paying jobs; it's min-maxing or accepting the torture that is employment. I'm the same to a degree; if I've no plans, I don't mind an extra shift sunday morning. I feel like I can actual control of my life: I -choose- to work and be rewarded for it. Unlike actual careers where working hard at the office doesn't guarantee promotion. Sometimes, often, the opposite.
Sure if the economy and jobs stink and are hard to find, there is always happiness to be found in life. I am blessed to have a job but I am poor, but that is okay! I just go to church, spend time here, and read my books.
I tell myself I pursue this lifestyle. I don't need to buy games; I have the ones I want to play, I just lack the drive. We've got local fighting game tourneys here, I could meet up at one to see if it ignites a passion. I've done a lot of sports and could easily see myself joining a club, but in equal measures I know it might as well be a gathering of social outcasts or something of such broad appeal you don't get that "oh, you too?"-connection. I like to be by myself, drinking tea and reading books, but I get these tourettes-like impulses to just say hi to strangers and hope something happens. If I were in a place where that was the goal, I think I'd excel. And it's scary thinking it might not ever happen unless I make it so.
If no Zoomer can find friends and GFs but we're all looking for them, in theory then in shouldn't be that hard to find them, unless. Nobody is actually searching for such a thing anymore.
And those who do get together, two 9s, will post on r/datingadvice asking "should i choke and spit on her?" and she goes "I don't get turned on by being choked and spat on but all my friends do?". I've absolutely no issues imagining myself mingling with 'normies' in a local community, but I'm also of the internet generation where I can't imagine anyone else my age would 'stoop' to doing that. Like going to an event called 'make friends'. Who'd go there? Sure as shit not those who already have friends. It'd be a loser circlejerk, and even though I'd love a no-confidence boring bitch loser partner, even those don't stoop to such events.
Doomerism is ultimately the most cowardly way to view the world. Sure, shit is terrible right now but bitching about it online without even thinking of self-improvement isn't helping anyone. My advice to my fellow Zoomers is this; Stop being a faggot and work on yourself. Maybe then will you see the world differently.
I think simply put the younger generations aren't bored enough. Imagine sitting in your apartment after work with no phone or pc. You'd -have- to find something to do if you're any measure of energized and hopeful in life. If I got kidnapped in a black van outside work and was told "we're doing 3 hours in the soup kitchen", I'd be up for it, but it's getting to that point that sucks dick.
In my own experience, yeah, I think what has disappeared nowadays is just that idea of a simple 9-5 where you just clock in, try to look busy and follow a few orders, and then head home and do fuck all for the rest of your day.
It's kind of crazy to look at the modern equivalent of this. 9 to 5? Add in an hour of working out at the company gym or pool. Add in 3 hours of meetings keeping you from being a cog in the system, add 30 mins to your commute home cause we only work in the big cities, and once you're finally home, you don't crack open a cold one and watch Al on TV; you look at your phone before, after and during, wondering about some political situation on the other end of the world.

I've watched a fair few ""video essays"" about the zoomer job market and the comments are full of "I'd kill to work in a cubicle for a living wage". Meanwhile doing just that was the basis of many a movie in the 90s. AAAA IM GOING INSANE I CAN BUY A HOUSE AAAAA!!!!
Gen Z can't afford to passively do a mediocre job and go home, we're entering a shift where you kinda HAVE to be dedicated to your job and heavily specialize in order to survive.
The office job I just gave up on felt like I was going project-to-project. Never a day that was just treading the mill and going home. I only just realized this in my new, old job, which is basically doing the same service routine every single day. I am here to serve and I get paid and I go home. The only advancements are those I make up on my own; trying to optimize our shifts, the excel tables, our posters etc. I look at the old office job and both see no day-to-day cog work, but also no means of scaling the ladder. Yea, better pay, but holy shit was it dreadful, even ignoring the in-house bullying and ruination of my mental health. And every time I open the 'modern job horror stories' thread on here, I recognize that exact situation. My friends said "bro just keep grinding, make that bag". For what fucking purpose? I won't get to retire and I won't get to own property, not that I have a reason to, cause I won't have a family as long as the jews keep putting women on Onlyfans and Tinder.
 
Gotta say, I was exposed to doomerism early on (us zoomers were still young, so millenial doomerism perhaps? millenials will never own a home?) and it instilled in me that I'd be growing up and graduating into a hostile world where everything's fucked and the powers that be want to take everything from me. Knowing this as an early zoomer I saved money, became religious, exercised, graduated, got a career and bought a house and got married (1yr dating, less than 1 year engagement) so all that's left to do is have kids and max out all our retirement accounts so fuck doomers and espescially paid actor doomer youtubers WAGMI

I like to think of them as selection bias youtubers actually, look at this nigga
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all he does is watch tik toks that validate whatever point he's pushing for half an hour and says damn so true and he gets 1.2m views. You can selection bias psyop yourself into believing any popular enough viewpoint you like, go visit the russia and ukraine threads on this forum if you want to see state actors psyopping in real time. It's doomscrolling, find a healthier way to cope with bad feelings. I got in the habit of cleaning things when I feel bad, it's very effective. Gets you busy and you see things getting better in real time.
 
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They put a massive tranny flag in the square of my town because of the "trans day of visibility" God, I fucking hate Catalonia so much.
Now they put a rainbow flag because of some other retarded progressive calendar event that happens this month, I live in bumfuck nowhere in a small rural town full of elderly boomers, niggers and abdools and the fact that they're doing this shit here too just piss me off so much man.
 
Now they put a rainbow flag because of some other retarded progressive calendar event that happens this month, I live in bumfuck nowhere in a small rural town full of elderly boomers, niggers and abdools and the fact that they're doing this shit here too just piss me off so much man.
Every day I thank God I'm not European. Hope things get better in that part of the world, or at the very least that you can find a way out of it.
 
Every day I thank God I'm not European. Hope things get better in that part of the world, or at the very least that you can find a way out of it.
Catalonia fucking sucks, it's like the california of Spain and it's filled with far-left retards and shitskins. I don't think this happens in the rest of the country tho.
 
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