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What are fellow Zoomer kiwi's eating habits like? I've always cooked most of my own food because my dad was a great cook and kinda set a high bar. Also the cost savings compared to pre-prepared stuff and eating out are significant. Love me spaghetti with homemade meatballs.

I was curious because I don't see too many young people at my grocery store. I was also curious if anyone uses any of those delivery food services that have popped up everywhere.
Thankfully my mom was a worry wort about what we ate so eating out is a once a week thing for me. I avoid fast food and especially delivery(it's expencive) and I cook/prep at home. I almost never see Z at the store. All boomers or X
 
What are fellow Zoomer kiwi's eating habits like? I've always cooked most of my own food because my dad was a great cook and kinda set a high bar. Also the cost savings compared to pre-prepared stuff and eating out are significant. Love me spaghetti with homemade meatballs.

I was curious because I don't see too many young people at my grocery store. I was also curious if anyone uses any of those delivery food services that have popped up everywhere.
It's all foreigners and boomers at my local grocery store too. If I go to the nice, upscale grocery store that gives free cheese bread to the kids it's just boomers. I think one big issue with Zoomers and cooking is that we're often forced into little bugcaves or roommate situations that make it difficult to cook, since buying bulk staples and equipment/appliances is unwieldy for people cooking for 1 or 2 and storing it is not an option in a shared pantry-refrigerator.
I escaped the pod, so now I stick with home-cooked meals and make as much as I can from scratch. Now that I'm cooking for myself and the girlfriend I feel really pressed to impress, so I'm always trying to buy vegetables and stuff I didn't eat growing up and using LLMs to generate recipes. I'd say eating out is a once-or-twice-a-monthly thing for me, we have a few favourites we rotate though. I'm not above fast food but she is. Before I moved in with her and lived in a closet, I'll admit to using UberJeets more than I should have, but now that I have someone else holding me to some standard we only order when we're in a situation where the fridge is empty or neither of us want to cook (rare since I love cooking).
 
I escaped the pod, so now I stick with home-cooked meals and make as much as I can from scratch.
My issue I have with cooking for myself here in the States is that all of our ingredients are portioned in the store for minimum 2 people and up to a family. I don't really like leftovers anymore, and so it's really hard to cook for myself when I don't want to try and repeat meals constantly or have leftovers. Mushrooms I don't even bother buying because I cannot go through them fast enough. I can't eat 8oz of portabella mushrooms that quickly, even though I probably should. I only stick to frozen veggies when cooking for myself now.
 
I think one big issue with Zoomers and cooking is that we're often forced into little bugcaves or roommate situations that make it difficult to cook, since buying bulk staples and equipment/appliances is unwieldy for people cooking for 1 or 2 and storing it is not an option in a shared pantry-refrigerator.
This is true. Decent cookware has also gotten expensive. I only use stainless and got a good new set for $500. Some kids parents never taught them how to cook well at all so the skills of blanching, burnishing, brining, sautéing are lost. Tiktok is helping but its still a learning curve that takes time to master. The glass stovetops found in shitty apartments doesn't help either.

When I was in Europe, they go to grocery stores every day or every couple days and got fresh stuff for dinner. Its different from the buy-in-bulk mentality from the US. Box stores are good for buying canned things, oils and meat, but fresh healthy stuff like vegetables, fruits and fish spoil so fast its hard. Depending on where you live, daily trips can be uncommon.
 
This is true. Decent cookware has also gotten expensive. I only use stainless and got a good new set for $500. Some kids parents never taught them how to cook well at all so the skills of blanching, burnishing, brining, sautéing are lost. Tiktok is helping but its still a learning curve that takes time to master. The glass stovetops found in shitty apartments doesn't help either.

When I was in Europe, they go to grocery stores every day or every couple days and got fresh stuff for dinner. Its different from the buy-in-bulk mentality from the US. Box stores are good for buying canned things, oils and meat, but fresh healthy stuff like vegetables, fruits and fish spoil so fast its hard. Depending on where you live, daily trips can be uncommon.
Blanching is a waste of time and anybody who does it is gay.
 
“Waaa waaa waaa my parents never taught me how to cook”. Take some fucking responsibility for yourself. My parents never taught me how to cook either so I did what a young man is supposed to and I married a woman whose parents also didn’t teach her how to cook and she learned how to cook for me.

More seriously though I think lack of cooking expertise was pretty common throughout history. It’s not like everybody was a classically trained French cook. My MILs cooking is so mid. My wife’s so much better just from YouTube University. My grandmother was notoriously bad until sometime in her 40s she did a course. Gen Z don’t cook because the alternatives are more attractive than they’ve been historically. It doesn’t help when they start trying to cook and want to make 1 dish each from 6 different cuisines with 0 compatible ingredients.
 
More zoomers could be coming to the farms soon
Most of these guys seem to just be sharty people that get banned in like 2 months.

It's more like they worship it without realizing that it's a false idol.
No, I think many of them just do not even know what it is.

Lets use Lord of the Rings as an example. Sam and Frodo have a genuinely deep friendship and are open about that. For some this is incomprehensible - it must be a gay romance.
A faithful adaption of Lord of the Rings that includes the team just walking down paths singing songs would also almost certainly be off-putting to many zoomers. This pure injection of wholesome fun and true appreciation for the world would be foreign to them.
 
Why is it that zoomers are so enamored with social media? Even when I was young and impressionable, I never thought that social media ever really had any actual value for humans.
I've seen peers have social media accounts as far back as middle school, it's something that's probably been drilled in for a long while. Some that grew up terminally online (like me, or almost any other zoomer that decided to make a KF account) still carried that sense of separating your real life from your online presence, and that's something that used to be reiterated even by YouTube back then. Coincidentally, that shifted around the time Google bought out YouTube, and it probably corresponds further to the increasing centralization of the internet into a handful of large apps and sites.
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Fast forward to the present day, and there's now a push for everyone to have to plaster their ID online to verify their identities for shit. I blame Palantir.
You have to understand the motivations of people's actions. If he's getting paid to act miserable, he is going to act miserable.

I think its a good skill to have IRL as well to consider what is motivating peoples actions, and how to tell if their motivations are causing them to be bullshit artists.
Thomas Hobbes discusses this
 
No, I think many of them just do not even know what it is.
I think this is true: Boomer TV was shit like Star Trek and other stuff so genuine we call it "camp" today. Xers were more cynical with the creative reigns, making media that was a bit more "self-aware." Post 9-11, pop culture took on a futher cynical aspect. This trend continued to (possibly) its critical mass with Avengers, where serious moments needed quips because flying men in leotards are silly, right? Everything rebooted for the Xoomer/Millenial trough is being deconstructed or subverted now. I'm making a sweeping generalization about decades of pop culture, but I do think you can map a pattern of writing that culminates in a generation that can't accept anything at face value.
I'm no pop culture guru, but I bet if someone made some perfect storm media like LotR with all of its humanity and brotherhood, it would one-shot gen Z like a silver bullet.
 
When I was in Europe, they go to grocery stores every day or every couple days and got fresh stuff for dinner. Its different from the buy-in-bulk mentality from the US. Box stores are good for buying canned things, oils and meat, but fresh healthy stuff like vegetables, fruits and fish spoil so fast its hard. Depending on where you live, daily trips can be uncommon.
Grocery stores in Europe are generally pretty good, but if you can find a good farmer's market you're really chilling. People are generally nice if you approach with a smile and have a respectful tone, even if you don't speak the local language. Building a healthy rapport with the local community is always a huge plus in your favor if you're gonna live away from home for a while. I lived in the Netherlands as a student for a couple years and saved a lot just by being friendly with people in markets and thrift shops, especially the latter.
 
The older generations just seem to assume things that worked during their youth can work during ours, so Gen Z has to talk to each other to figure out our lives.
Z's experience is characterized often by the fact, not that we are upset that things are bad neccesarily, but rather, that people made them bad, and that they could be better. Sure the depression of the 30s was far worse, I understand that things could be worse, but things could be better too, and gen x especially refuses to consider that. Its incredibly aggravating to begrudge the poor state of affairs we find ourselves in, only to hear "well it could be worse" yeah no kidding it could be worse, but it could be better, and I know it could be better, because I saw older gens have it better
 
Z's experience is characterized often by the fact, not that we are upset that things are bad neccesarily, but rather, that people made them bad, and that they could be better. Sure the depression of the 30s was far worse, I understand that things could be worse, but things could be better too, and gen x especially refuses to consider that. Its incredibly aggravating to begrudge the poor state of affairs we find ourselves in, only to hear "well it could be worse" yeah no kidding it could be worse, but it could be better, and I know it could be better, because I saw older gens have it better
Ironically enough this is a sentiment that was also echoed in older gens.
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“Waaa waaa waaa my parents never taught me how to cook”. Take some fucking responsibility for yourself. My parents never taught me how to cook either so I did what a young man is supposed to and I married a woman whose parents also didn’t teach her how to cook and she learned how to cook for me.
I got kicked out of the house by my parents doing Covid and was living with a friend for like 9 months. And I couldn't find a way to help out. Financially, so I learned to cook really well.
But my parents did teach me how to cook. Bake. Cooking is really easy.
 
Normally I just sit by myself and read a book or watch a Youtube video while on break from work but one of my co-workers decided to sit with and show me reels for the whole hour. I am a complete outsider to short-form content so to actually sit there and watch that mind-numbing garbage for so long for the first time in my life was enough to finally click how completely short-circuited most of Gen Z's brains are at this point. WTF man.
 
Normally I just sit by myself and read a book or watch a Youtube video while on break from work but one of my co-workers decided to sit with and show me reels for the whole hour. I am a complete outsider to short-form content so to actually sit there and watch that mind-numbing garbage for so long for the first time in my life was enough to finally click how completely short-circuited most of Gen Z's brains are at this point. WTF man.
It's no longer just Gen Z getting their brains fried from short-form content. I noticed a surprising number of Gen X people watching similar stuff. Pretty sad if you ask me.

Also, I noticed finding people who make stuff out of sheer passion rather than just trying to get money from ads and sponsors is getting harder every day. I hope one day we get to see the whole advertisement economy crash and burn, as this might be our only hope to start reversing the enshittification of the internet.
 
It's no longer just Gen Z getting their brains fried from short-form content. I noticed a surprising number of Gen X people watching similar stuff. Pretty sad if you ask me.
My dad loves reading and will ramble on about the stupidity of Gen Z if provoked and even I have to try to convince him to read something instead of browsing X in the evenings. No one really is safe. But the first step is to be able to acknowledge that fact.
Also, I noticed finding people who make stuff out of sheer passion rather than just trying to get money from ads and sponsors is getting harder every day. I hope one day we get to see the whole advertisement economy crash and burn, as this might be our only hope to start reversing the enshittification of the internet.
This was what lead me to drop out of the realm of YouTube creation entirely. I was friends with so many "creative visionary" types over the years... It was so crushing to realise that it never was about conveying a story or actually making something people would love out of the pure joy of it. It was about the idea of having an easy job that requires you to sit at your desk all day not needing to leave the house and being able to profit off what you view as no more than gullible apes that live online. They want to do it because they think it's easy and they would never dare to get their hands dirty. None of these people will admit that but Ive known many of them long enough to reassure the truth in this. Entertainers think they are gods and your only purpose is to worship them, when in reality they are sad people whose source of power (if they ever even manage to achieve it mine you) can be taken away with the snap of a finger. They don't think about that though and can only salivate at the idea of, at least temporarily, ascending to a plane higher than the plebs they believe they are too good for.
 
There is such a huge difference between kids that grew up without a smart phone and one family PC in the computer room and Ipad babies. It's pretty meaningless to call them the same generation. There really needs to be some kind of distinction between zoomers born at the beginning and zoomers born on the tail end.
 
There is such a huge difference between kids that grew up without a smart phone and one family PC in the computer room and Ipad babies. It's pretty meaningless to call them the same generation. There really needs to be some kind of distinction between zoomers born at the beginning and zoomers born on the tail end.
There is it’s called Zillenials

Idk about the end ones making Zalphas

Also the start of IPad babies is basically already Gen Alpha. The IPhone came out in 2009/2010 if I recall correctly. It didn’t really take off till a few years later (besides the early adopters). Gen Alpha’s start around 2011-2012

When I got my first cellphone in Grade 8 / 9 it was still a BlackBerry and this was 2012.
 
There is it’s called Zillenials

Idk about the end ones making Zalphas

Also the start of IPad babies is basically already Gen Alpha. The IPhone came out in 2009/2010 if I recall correctly. It didn’t really take off till a few years later (besides the early adopters). Gen Alpha’s start around 2011-2012

When I got my first cellphone in Grade 8 / 9 it was still a BlackBerry and this was 2012.
I'm definitely an older Gen Z, I remember my family only having an old Dell PC that was running Windows XP and had a couple TVs with Dish as a cable service back when it was actually decent. Didn't get a phone until Junior year of high school.
 
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