Why do women lose interest in sex after marriage or committing to a LTR, such as moving in?

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It is only in 23% of households in the US that men are the sole breadwinner.
I’m amazed it’s even that high tbh. I know only one or two people who have a wife at home and that’s for specific reasons (trailing spouse without the visa and farming, which isn’t really SAHM at all, it’s bloody hard work.) for most of us it’s beyond reach financially. Wages here just are too low.
I always like asking senior executives how they do it all. They waffle on and I ask adoringly how they manage the school pickups. The laundry? Oh the wife/housekeeper/nanny does that they say. Ah, I say, maybe I need a wife? They sound really useful.
 
I think that women and men are the problem, and to solve this we can ask the gay space niggers for assistance.
 
Biology I guess. Like how a salmon dies after spawning. My sister told me she didn't think she ever loved her husband and i've seen that sentiment repeated here in the femoid circles. The priority was kids with suitable genes and a provided life. For more career driven females the focus is probably just on the kids if she is able to earn enough money to provide.
It's pretty harrowing stuff for a guy. I just assume any relationship I'm in can end suddenly and that's it. Fortunately I've gone through shitty break ups before so its no longer a real threat. Just let me know if you're cheating and I'll try someone else.
If this were the case, I believe it would be a lot more pronounced after menopause. Dunno much about that in relationships so I'll leave that hypothesis to the crowd.

Most of you niggers who complain about their not being anymore "traditional" women out there couldn't financially support one. You wouldn't be on the Kiwifarms if you did.
Financial support seems like one of those things that I think gets taken for granted when it's consistent, but adds a lot of stress when it isn't.

That's just what you get for not marrying a BPD. Sucks to suck I guess.
A friend of mine had a BPD girlfriend and she tried to cheat on him with me. She also told me about some extensive past experience. I think it's diehard commitment unless they feel neglected (dating someone who went overseas with the military, for example). Then she redirects that passionate love to the next one.

I'll keep this brief because you retards are to copium like niggers are to crack.
  • Genetic data shows that only 20-30% of males ever got to reproduce vs 70-80% of females.
  • Just observing the kind of men women associate with before turning 30 gives you a good idea of the kind of men they like.
I think the issue with this incel logic is that even though it might be correct, it can be resolved with the masculine "git gud" mindset. Assume women are only attracted to the top x% of men in their social circles. Yes, social media makes this extra competitive (I heard from women in my church youth group about dating someone while actively looking for a better man, much like the job search tactic of looking for jobs while employed). However, if you live in America, half of your competitors are fat. A tenth are gay. A ton are lonely and lack social circles. Nearly all don't work out multiple times per week. That's not to assume that everyone has good taste, but you can get much better odds in the present day by just being physically healthy.

  • Don't give me this sensual eating pussy nonesense. Ever seen a mexican cartel sex tape? Head to the floor, ass up and quivering before the obese tub of lard who just dismembered someone's daughter even has a chance to put it in. No foreplay.
That is extremely specific and it sounds like you might have been a bit shaken by seeing that. I'm sorry.
I think this is something that isn't mentioned much, but shows up in erotica a lot. Lots of rape and rapey stuff happening in stories and fanfics, written by women and for women. I and I assume many men are confused to see it so popular. I also heard about arousal and orgasm during forced penetration called "body betrayal" when I was taught about it by feminists in sex ed. However, that term did not show up in search results. Closest I found is https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-024-02852-2 [Victim Sexual Arousal During Nonconsensual Sex: A Scoping Review] and they decided that the studies weren't sufficient to draw any conclusions.

The only consolation I have to offer is that there are many fetishes and genres of smut in the world, and different people get off to different things. And even though I don't know how common it is, most people can probably get off to a variety of things, and fantasies of being raped are just one of many kinks. Also note it may be overrepresented in literature because it's dramatic and easy to put in a narrative.

Because men are romantics and women are Chinese people. I will not elaborate.

"Men are the real romantics" they say as they stick their dicks into McChickens and animals.
Men are capable of both. Men see someone sexy and decide if they are more suited for a long-term interaction or a never-see-you-again interaction. Long-term people could mean romantic commitment or it could mean platonic. Never-see-you-again people are sorted into dick-if-able or ugh-no-thanks categories. My model explains both passionate romance and fucking a goat. As to why they don't do what their instincts say, they have personalities and hormones and shit. A backed-up man is more likely to consider fucking a bucket of chicken. A weary man is more likely to want a relationship with trust and intimacy once in a while.

Married and can't say I've ever had this problem.

@Lidl Drip mentioned men letting themselves slip in commitment and that's probably one of the more likely answers. Look, smell and act like shit and your missus is going to feel undesired and it creates a negative feedback loop where you're punching own each others' self-esteem. (which is why you think it 'helps' when you start opening your wallet in lieu)

Cut through the incel diatribe and it's a literal skill issue. Make yourself worthy of lifelong commitment instead of 'moralizing' about how you can't online.
I saw Queer Eye and it supports this. People get older and don't know how to take care of themselves or dress mature, hate their body, make their partner feel neglected, etc. I am a firm believer in filling your own cup before filling others'.

More than half of marriages end, but only 40ish percent of first marriages fail. And this is a widely American phenomenon, so a committed duo with a little bit of brainpower can easily find ways to make it work for life if they truly want to. Not everyone is a dumb ape but the dumb apes tend to be the loudest and it only takes one to ruin a marriage.
The people I know with the best relationships have very rarely mentioned to me when they are having a fight or issues. Or maybe they're sucking in silence and just look good, fuck if I know.

Not enough beatings apparently, you need to treat them like dogs, jaaaaa
Don't beat your dogs!

Don't ask reddit farms if you want a clear answer.
200 misinformed dummies slowly learning together is better than 5 published news articles. Hanging out here is like listening to a humanities professor with tenure.
 
I'll keep this brief because you retards are to copium like niggers are to crack.
  • Genetic data shows that only 20-30% of males ever got to reproduce vs 70-80% of females.
  • Just observing the kind of men women associate with before turning 30 gives you a good idea of the kind of men they like.
  • Don't give me this sensual eating pussy nonesense. Ever seen a mexican cartel sex tape? Head to the floor, ass up and quivering before the obese tub of lard who just dismembered someone's daughter even has a chance to put it in. No foreplay.
The only mexican cartel sex tape I'm interested in seeing hasn't been made yet. It contains you, head to the floor, ass up and quivering, getting your guts pulled out via vigorous and violent rape by the obese tub of lard who just dismembered someone's daughter. I bet you'd really like it! You just might not know it yet.
 
You love to hear those stories about how "Noooo but I AM doing everything right! The other person is in the wrong!".

At best people are just stuck in a vicious cycle of "stop doing nice things for each other because the other person stopped doing nice things". And no, vacations, expensive gifts and dare I say even getting fit is basically cargo cult behavior; what would lead the other person to sex is more than the sum of these actions.
 
I bet she's not too lazy to eat a delicious ice cream sundae if one was presented to her. People generally like to do things that are pleasurable and make you feel good and give you dopamine like tasty food or orgasms. If your wife doesn't wanna have sex with you it's because sex with you sucks and is a chore to her and not a pleasurable experience. Ofc a moid looks at this and thinks "she is too lazy to do the chore of making my dick feel good, women suck and marriage is a scam!" and not "Maybe I should try making sex fun for my wife so she enjoys the experience as well and will continue to want to do it?". And this explains the divorce rates.
That goes both ways.

In the presented example in OP, they're talking about an instance where the man is not letting himself go, while the woman is, and they're asking why.

There may be instances when the guy is not considerate enough to their partner, which could cause that lack of interest, and in such case it might be clear why, but it could also be the opposite: the guy being considerate while their partner is not. Which I assume OP is considering.

So OP would need to be more specific for the retards in this thread to attempt to analyze the situation properly, and the several possibilities his post brings to the table.
 
Why is this? Is marriage just a scam for men? We're all just that dumb?
It's very fucking simple. You get old, bored, lazy, and tired. Everyone does. There's a lot in a day that goes into kids, work, and running a household. Eventually, even the best of couples running 100% at peak performance will say "Fuck it I'm too tired" to keep up the romance. Sometimes that "Fuck it" will go on for weeks, or months, or if you're beta enough to not say anything-years. And EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE who is married goes through it. Every married couple will eventually have this problem and if they say haven't, they're fucking lying. The trick is to not let it stay that way. The problem is keeping up martial relations is work, and when it becomes work, you get into a death spiral because now it's another chore. Even if you get through it once, it also doesn't mean it won't happen again either.

It's just a nature of the beast. Marriage is a scam, but for an entirely different set of reasons. This is not one of them.
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
In my own personal experience, periods of sex or the lack thereof have had more to do with our current life situation at the time and outside stress factors rather than just being married. The being married and being together for a long time thing didn't really change much other than making the sex more comfortable and enjoyable as time went on.
 
OP has in its post examples that are like that, but for women:

Get it?

For the men who are not letting themselves be all those bad things, while the wife is.
>If I lift chicken and eat enough heavy objects, my wife will let me have sex with her!
This'd be random.txt worthy if it wasn't paraphrased.
 
It's very fucking simple. You get old, bored, lazy, and tired. Everyone does. There's a lot in a day that goes into kids, work, and running a household. Eventually, even the best of couples running 100% at peak performance will say "Fuck it I'm too tired" to keep up the romance. Sometimes that "Fuck it" will go on for weeks, or months, or if you're beta enough to not say anything-years. And EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE who is married goes through it. Every married couple will eventually have this problem if they haven't, they're fucking lying. The trick is to not let it stay that way. The problem is keeping up martial relations is work, and when it becomes work, you get into a death spiral because now it's another chore. Even if you get through it once, it also doesn't mean it won't happen again either.

It's just a nature of the beast. Marriage is a scam, but for an entirely different set of reasons. This is not one of them.
I don't think this gets talked about enough so when it hits a couple that doesn't expect it, it can be catastrophic. It helps when you choose someone and expect to be with them "til death do us part" and all that. Divorce aint on the table so we're going to get through this temporary rough patch no matter what, its a nice mindset to have. That's if you've found someone compatible of course.
 
Oof, well I mean, maybe just ask them? Bitches are people too...

Now obviously, that isn't the best answer, and I don't want to sound like some simpified male feminist cuck, but realistically the first thing to figuring out why you're not fucking, is asking the woman, "Hey, why aren't we fucking?".

From there figuring out what the blockers are, what things could be done/done more, and actually make it clear that you want to have sex, not just get a nut, but that you actually want to have mutually enjoyable sex with the woman you're in a relationship with.
 
So we are going to talk about men, by their own open admission, having incompatible needs/wants in a marriage/LTR. Because this is gonna illustrate the answer.

Men as a class say what they want from a wife is: emotional intimacy, support, to be able to spray emotionally vulnerable shit at her and be comforted. They also add phrases like a "restful" or "peaceful" home, or talk about home as a place to be "comfortable".

Men also say: they want a wife, particularly (but not exclusively, oh no!) if she works fewer hours, earns less, or if they have agreed for her to be a SAHM, to shop for and prepare all meals, do all laundry, do all housework (NB "yard work" and "outside maintenance" are bullshit. I literally spend more time at the hair salon a year than it takes me to arrange, be home for, and pay for all home and vehicle maintenance that needs carried out.) and do most if not all of the kids' personal care.

Men also want a wife to: do "family organising", such as be aware of children's schedules around school and extra curriculars, be aware of when particular equipment is needed for trips or sports, arrange that equipment to be ready, work to host and cater 'family' events that may include no relatives of hers apart from her children, "make the home welcoming" (I genuinely have no idea what that shit i meant to mean), arrange and attend all medical appointments, be aware of major kin keeping events like Mothers Day and organise money and labour needed for that, and organise the logistics of vacations.

And of course, men want a wife to provide sexual intercourse to the frequency and enthusiasm level they feel adequate to meet their needs for validation and sexual release.

Now, here is the big fucking problem. A wife, especially if she has children, and this is more important the more kids there are, is ALREADY doing the first three lists above for everyone else in the family all day. So see all the effort she puts into doing that? That is childcare. She is doing that shit to meet her children's needs, not to fulfil her husband's wants or desires. Those kids need to be fed and washed and handed clean clothes regardless of how her man feels about it. And he is cared for in exactly the same manner at exactly the same time as the kids. That's why we have phrases like "family meals". The whole family, including the lone uninvolved adult, is given the same care and labour. Those first three wants a man has of a wife? Those are mothering. That's motherhood. That's the demand to be given the same care, in the same ways, at the same time as the kids.

So once the kids have gone to sleep and the evening chores (because oh no, chores are not over for the day once children are asleep, no) are done, wife is kinda burned out on looking after everyone else's wants and needs all day. (If you don't know how many minor errands, mindless menial labour, and endless minor requests can be generated by a houseful of kids, I will undertake to keep an autistic total over the Christmas holidays for info.)

The trouble is, the husband still has Want Number Four to be satisfied. He has been cared for like one of his own infants, but no, he is a MAN and this babying is insufficient. He also wants, nay demands, nay NEEDS, attention to be paid to solely him and in particular to his dick.

Imagine you have just walked out of a 14 hour shift at work, and someone calls you to come back in for a couple of hours because they "need" you to come do some more work for solely their benefit, or they will be sad and mad and grumpy and bad to be around.

You would not be able to summon some boundless flood of enthusiasm, let alone actual sexual arousal, at this prospect. And let's be clear: many dudes discussing this shit freely on reddit and TRP forums and other hellholes are very clear about their "need for sex". Many of them are willing to spell it out in detail with comments such as "I ONLY want a blowjob". Yeah, we get it. You want her to perform a sex act, any of your chosen preference, to your level of energy and enthusiasm desired, until you get to jizz (because by god none of these complaint screeds anywhere in their millions of words refers to any "need" to cause the wife to orgasm). Then it's roll over and sleep time, because a man is tired.

You want whore service. You want whore service from the same person who just gave you maid service all day. In return you will.... *crickets*. I think at this point normally there is angry bloviating about "providing" and "being A LOYAL MAN". Well of course such a man is loyal. Why would he not be loyal? He literally gets everything he wants. He gets every need and pretty much every desire satisfied.

But in all that description above, at what point did someone do something for the wife to meet her needs and desires? Because if she was just looking after her own needs and desires, dinner would have been ice cream out of the tub and she'd only need to run two loads of laundry a week. All this fucking work is for the benefit of other people.

And she can't even get ten minutes' peace to fall asleep because the biggest child of the whole family wants his weewee to get attenshun. So she has to do one more fucking thing to keep some other cunt happy before she can even sleep. Except this thing isn't like reading a third bedtime story, or tucking everyone in yet one more time. This is the point where even though she's been mothering, actively mothering, this cunt all day, he now wants her to see him as radically different from all her other dependent children, and to want to touch his winky. Women cannot do that. Women cannot go in minutes from actively mothering someone to fucking them. Our brains are not wired to do that. It makes the wife feel gross when the biggest baby in the family throws a tanty about peepee at beddy bye time.

That's why she doesn't want to fuck him.

Every one of you knows a guy like I'm describing. Maybe he was your father. Maybe he's you. If he's you, get fucking wise fast, because your marriage is not going to last. That guy up there? He's not a provider or a companion. He's not even as useful as a good dog. He's work. He is just hours and hours of unpaid labour every week until he or his wife dies, or she does the walkaway wife thing.

The idea that any "genuine desire" can flourish or even exist in a dynamic like that is risible.

A wife is a person, not jut a wife and mother. Not just a way by which the needs and desires of others are met. A person requires a bit, actually quite a bit, of time and space to themselves, regularly and often, to have the mental energy to feel desire for someone else and to want to be desired. If you don't do that, if you just want to roll on top and jizz regularly, you have made sex yet another chore for her. Your sex life, your sexual bond, will never ever recover from that.

If you run your bangmaid into the ground all day every day, your FuckMommy2024 appliance will be out of charge before you can run the ejaculation cycle inside her. You must allow FuckMommy2024 ample recharging time or she will shortcircuit and you will need to get a replacement.



writing this out has made me depressed and now I need to go fuck my husband to feel better
 
>If I lift chicken and eat enough heavy objects, my wife will let me have sex with her!
This'd be random.txt worthy if it wasn't paraphrased.
This makes no sense, and is not relevant to anything I've said.

Your initial post is completely dismissing the scenario OP is hinting towards, although he's being vague enough for morons to cherry pick scenarios where it's obvious why the marriage would fail.

OP is also generalizing women as one entity (e.g: in its title), which isn't doing any favours.

I'll just have to assume that a lot of people in here don't know what they're talking about, or don't know what the universe of discourse is, so it's a waste of time in what probably will become an echo chamber.
 
I don't think this gets talked about enough so when it hits a couple that doesn't expect it, it can be catastrophic. It helps when you choose someone and expect to be with them "til death do us part" and all that. Divorce aint on the table so we're going to get through this temporary rough patch no matter what, its a nice mindset to have. That's if you've found someone compatible of course.
That's the other thing. You never really know who you're marrying until you're married. While the core of people don't change, the amount of effort they put in certainly does and the way you see other people will always change over time. Your great husband might be a bit of a lazy slob. Your beautiful wife might be an absolute diva when it comes to housework. The reality is until you're in a bad situation, and have to solve a problem together, you don't know who you're marrying.

If your basement is flooded, and it needs to be drained, your husband might do it himself. Your wife might help and be in the muk with you. Maybe she won't help but she'll make you a sandwich and thank you for fixing it. Maybe she'll sit on her ass and scroll through social media. Maybe she'll try to help and you yell at her to stop getting in your way. Maybe the husband won't do fuck all about it and say he'll call a guy while you, the wife are down in the basement trying to see if you can fix it yourself. Maybe you both decide to call a guy to fix it for you. Bottom line is, nothing teaches you more about your partner than tackling life together and before marriage, it can be difficult to know how your partner tackles life because you only get glimpses of their day to day.

writing this out has made me depressed and now I need to go fuck my husband to feel better
Yay we got your husband laid!!! Don't forget to cradle the balls, stroke the shaft, and slurp the gravy!
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
You're also failing to ascribe any value to unpaid work that "you" rely on to have the life you desire. The clean floors, folded clothes, food in the frig, scheduled appointments for the family, management of service providers, endless ferrying of kids during working hours, homework and project help and teacher interaction, home furnishing and maintenance, holiday cheer and cooking, to name a random couple of the many tasks required so you and your kids have a peaceful life, etc., do not have a value of 0.
You are the blackest nog on the porch. A live-in maid can do all that but the value of her work isn't half his property, it's a pre-arranged monthly salary. If a man does his role and earns for the family that is an ongoing 'salary' for the wife doing hers. Very few women do those things today anyway. Even well-meaning women prefer to work instead of housekeep which takes the point out of marriage.

"git gud" mindset
half of your competitors are fat. A tenth are gay. A ton are lonely and lack social circles. Nearly all don't work out multiple times per week. That's not to assume that everyone has good taste, but you can get much better odds in the present day by just being physically healthy.
The thread is about women losing interest in sex after marriage so it doesn't concern me or the insecurities you project onto me, it concerns men who got married than found out the truth. Our grandfathers, great-grandfathers and many generations before them had many many children each without this hyperfixation with physical training and frankly horrendous hygiene.

That is extremely specific and it sounds like you might have been a bit shaken by seeing that. I'm sorry.
I think this is something that isn't mentioned much, but shows up in erotica a lot. Lots of rape and rapey stuff happening in stories and fanfics, written by women and for women. I and I assume many men are confused to see it so popular.
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning? It was the most graphic example I knew of and it wasn't rape. Men in high positions don't need to rape. Extrapolate. I could have used women's documented attraction to serial killers and dangerous men, or how violent criminals are far more successful with young women, or how women tend to stick around with physically abusive men as examples.

I also heard about arousal and orgasm during forced penetration called "body betrayal" when I was taught about it by feminists in sex ed.
If anything 'body betrayal' shows that cope like this
The reason your wives don't want to have sex with you is because you are bad at it. Women absolutely continue to want to have sex with men who can deliver.
is retarded. Female orgasm didn't evolve because homo erectus started prodding the clit with a stick during coitus. It's a response that happens automatically with the right man. Only the <80% man needs all this "motion of the ocean" shit.

men set their marriage up for failure when they intentionally select for low sex motivated women
What are you lip smacking coons on? How do you select for high sex motivation?
 
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