Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

[MadStan]

The US military triggered an economic collapse in a distant land, by a very common measure (hyperinflation of one of the most essential commodities) with 3 months of effort, only one of which had active bombing. The US pushed Iran into negotiations largely on American terms with very few concessions, while losing very little leverage to restart strikes or the blockade. They did it while defeating the strategy of Iran, which was to trigger economic collapse in America and the world at large, by holding the oil flows of countries that weren't party to the conflict hostage. While oil prices increased, the US met a large portion of production shortfall and managed to exfiltrate oil from the strait. The US even managed to leverage Iran's biggest backer, China, into putting pressure on Iran to enter negotiations.

Inflation was already extant in Iran before this. Iran pushed the USA into negotiations mostly on their terms. Iran has not executed a plan to inflict global damage as yet; they merely did some damage as a tit for tat and are entirely capable of inflicting serious damage if they desire suicide. The USA did not radically increase production of oil - it used its reserves. China lowered their import requirements halving the global demand destruxtion. There isn’t one sentence in your post that isn’t anything but twisted PR from a MAGA.

 

[Historical Strelkov]

the most they need to do to their facilities is, what, dig them out again?

ask yourself where they got the uranium.

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Also “John Kerry” as a good negotiator…heh.

Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.

"How much do you want to spend for it?"
"Whatever it costs."

 

[Snekposter]

Iran has not executed a plan to inflict global damage as yet

Oh, for fuck's sake, thread search exists, you dumbass.

Trump can hope for an economic collapse of Iran and there is virtue in that; but if the game is set to see if Iran can outlast the global economy then the models speak for themselves; they can and will outlast the global economy if they keep the strait closed and destroy some of the regional energy infrastructure.

That strait choke point has to come to an end. We've got a week, perhaps 3 weeks before the closure cascades to an irreversible crashing of the global economy either immediately or shortly down the road due to shortages of various inputs. No one walks away unscathed.

Interesting data. I guess what I am not comprehending is where the idea comes from that “a couple more months” of the lack of the strait is not a disaster. If you think we can do without the strait for a few months and Trump also believes this, then I guess we get to find out either way in a few months.

Yes I said three weeks and it came and went. The damage has been hard-baked in and now the damage is unavoidable. But don’t take my word it, your gas and food bill in the coming months will speak volumes.

It’s odd how you refer to it as political
Sperging when it is Iran that has shuttered the strait. Political sperging would be something like “no President would be stupid enough to set the conditions up for a regime like Iran to shutter a global lifeline and then have no answer”

And like, no one is saying that at all.

This isn’t about Iran as a single entity; it is about the strait. And don’t lecture me on sanction evasion; every super power makes their exceptions for their own good and all ensure they are buyers of goods that ensure sanctioned countries always get their money. Even Trump himself lifts sanctions when it suits.

Farmers are paying skyrocketed costs at a time when they are already on razor edge margins. Their gas has gone up and so has their fertilizer by such a staggering amount the consumers down the road are going to get hit hard.

The military and consumer demand for chips is at a staggering mouth watering level but is being threatened by the fact that we went from an excess of helium now to a shortfall and beyond party balloons being cut obviously the input price of helium is skyrocketed and we within weeks are facing a required reduction in use and some industries will have to shutter production as their supplies dwindle and they can not replenish.

These are just two examples of various products that will cause a cascade effect entirely separate from the oil that is not flowing through the strait which in itself is manifesting as an inflationary matter and could end up being a serious economic disrupter.

Trump has to get that strait opened no matter what. He has dicked around enough sending mixed messages to Iran and bluff calls and crap.

If he doesn’t get the strait opened right the fuck now it’s bad, if he doesn’t get it opened within weeks the disruptions to the entire global economy will lead to in the least a recession and at worst a shortage of resources which is the number one cause of global conflicts and prolonged wars.

If Iran has any capability to hit oil fields or regional infrastructure left and they do so successfully before they are obliterated the impact will be felt for years.

You've been harping on and on about Iran's plan to cause global economic damage via shutting down the strait for months.

I'm not going to bother quoting every single post you've made about how Iran closing the strait is unmitigated worldwide disaster. People can easily look it up themselves.

 

[draggs]

Iran pushed the USA into negotiations mostly on their terms.

Both sides claim they pushed the other into negotiations mostly on their terms. Both sides have very cogent reasons to put an end to this and both sides are also convinced they have to save izzat so they both act like they are only negotiating because they're so reasonable and nice

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

IIRC they are forming a military partnership, the intentions of it I don't know nor care but the jews are VERY skeptical of al sharaa.

He was sponsored by Turkey and depends heavily on them. It's not a partnership when he's owned this much.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

but the jews are VERY skeptical of al sharaa.

He was the least worse option for leader. The US didn't want another Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan where the region is filled with insurgency, especially after the ISIS movement that plagued the region for the past decade. He was the best at trying to keep the country together. A Turk puppet is arguably better than fractured ISIS factions roaming the desert. At least you can push around a centralized government.

He was sponsored by Turkey and depends heavily on them. It's not a partnership when he's owned this much.

Every Turkish person I have talked to hates Erdogan. A calculated push from a CIA or Mossad operation would be enough to kick him out of power. The Lira is on a downward decline with no relief in sight and their economy is shit.

 

[Gloria The Glorious]

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It's over, World Cupbros... Iran has the Ayatollah, PBUH, on their side.

Longest game of Where's Waldo finally concludes.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Longest game of Where's Waldo finally concludes.

Wrong Ayatollah. The current one would have a hard time being a goalie with his missing leg and being comatose.

 

[Dumbledore's Onlyfans]

Wrong Ayatollah. The current one would have a hard time being a goalie with his missing leg and being comatose.

He's cardboard, another player could use him as a shield to deflect the ball. They could just run off another copy if he gets too dented.

 

[Gloria The Glorious]

Wrong Ayatollah. The current one would have a hard time being a goalie with his missing leg and being comatose.

Diabetes knows no mercy.

 

[Hanged Man]

Diabetes knows no mercy.

The real explanation as to why food prices kept going up in Iran. Supreme Feeder just couldn't stop.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Why are Third Worlders such resentment filled losers that blame everything on the West?

 

[Kalergi]

Videos like this from China are dual purpose. They are both propaganda for Chineese tech, but also a show of force. Flying things like fighters and helicopters don't react well when colliding with things. Send several thousand cheap drones up in a vertical mesh and you have a net that can track, chase and adjust heading to down anything in your airspace. A single drone sucked into a jet engine, or hitting the blades of a helicopter is all it takes. And you're only out a couple hundred bucks.

True, but even then, this reveals a lot more about the system's capabilities than at first blush. It's easy to get dazzled by the concept, but for all the supposed "wow" factor, it still apparently only managed to knock out one aircraft in a month and a half of combat ops near one of the most heavily defended areas of Iran. That indicates these systems are not actually fast enough to catch even Cold War era fighters, or we would have started losing aircraft there in the opening days of the war.

What happened with the F-15 appears to have been dumb luck or miscommunication on the mission, because that same system couldn't even take out a bunch of small helicopter gunships during the WSO rescue. It's probably something the Chinese told Iran to throw into the area just to see how it performed, although I'll grant that maybe the Iranians were too retarded to operate it properly.

The hype around it is going to be a lot more significant than what it actually accomplished, although I wouldn't be surprised to see further advances on this kind of thing in a couple of years.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

If the US was caught off guard by this, then we deserved to lose those aircraft. Drone cost and tech is accessible by even the most retarded cave dwelling goat fucking sand nigger and the Chinese have been showing how to prevent airspace inclusion with these videos for years.

Ukraine can yeet out 100s of drones a day. China can do thousands. If they can use 100 drones, at like $100,000 for the entire package to bring down a 20 million dollar fighter, thats a significant airspace defense.

That indicates these systems are not actually fast enough to catch even Cold War era fighters, or we would have started losing aircraft there in the opening days of the war.

What happened with the F-15 appears to have been dumb luck or miscommunication on the mission, because that same system couldn't even take out a bunch of small helicopter gunships during the WSO rescue. It's probably something the Chinese told Iran to throw into the area just to see how it performed, although I'll grant that maybe the Iranians were too retarded to operate it properly.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. The US used a ton of electronic warfare jamming for their large strike packages and Iran had no idea what the US was targeting in the opening strikes. They did, but they didn't. Over time they were adapt and piece together flight patterns. The F-15 was picked off since the US got complacent.

Iran is a massive country so they likely just got lucky with this, but this tactic could be lethal and deny airspace access on a contested, well defined border or frontline like Ukraine or Taiwans coast. That F-15 shoot down and rescue war arguably the best outcome because the US learned a new threat and by some miracle, was able to pull of an insane rescue operation. They lost a fighter but the lesson learned here and its implications are far more valuable. I would call Iran the second largest adversary the US is facing with China being the first, Russia being the third.

 

[draggs]

I love absolutely wild speculation

 

[Ghostse]

The price of bread doubling isn't me trying to claim Iran is starving, it's a sign that their economy is fucked. Has your grocery bill doubled since March? The IRGC can't hold onto power if the common citizen is unable to afford food and other necessities. The government is also not upping the amount of food stamps people are getting, not to mention the increased number of stories of rice and chicken smuggling. I thought people here would be smart enough to connect the dots when I post stories like this but I guess I'm going to have to effort post more often.

US gas prices raising 25% for a month: unmitigated disaster, Iranian victory, collapse of the American empire, rise of the Multipolar World.

Iranian grocery prices doubling as unemployment soars: Pfft whatever who cares. No one gives a fuck that all the basic staple foods cost double. This will have no affect on Iran.

This Jew seems to think Iran is finished

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I get Qatar thing because they are fucking rich but Syria and Turkey are absolutely devasted economically....Erdogan barely has any fucking energy left in him.

Israel has been making noise about Turkey recently, more than usual. Then you have Ben Gvir talking about a potential terrorist attack in Eilat. This could be a set up for a false flag since I don't think Israel is retarded enough to start hostilities with a NATO member. Anything to stay out of jail, huh Bibi?

IIRC they are forming a military partnership, the intentions of it I don't know nor care but the jews are VERY skeptical of al sharaa.

For people who didn't watch the season finale of Syria that closed the Al Assad arc:

EXTREME background:
al-Sharaa, formerly Abu al-Julani (hence forth and always referred to as AJ) led HTS, Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham. No not a boy band (anymore) but a collaboration of several Sunni groups.

AJ was a former Al Queda fighter in Iraq who was arrested for planting explosives in 2006 held for 5 years and released in 2011. The release is MAXIMUM INTRIGUING
Now get out those tin foil hats boy-os, because this going to activate those almonds.
In Prison, AJ began using an a alias. You know, in prison, for terrorism, known for its lax enforcement and oversight. Anywyay, in March 2011, prison officials did a prisoner review, saw there were no charges naming the Alias AJ had been using in Prison, and released him.
While this is normal Arab incompetence the part that makes a body go "HRM" is later in March 2011 month, the Syrian Revolution kicks off.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

It gets even better, because until 2016 AJ was a ranking member of Al Nusra, Al Queda's affliate in the war. Al Nusra, getting money (and weapons) from the Saudis and other Sunni muslim states and foreign recruits (read: Chechens) was some of the toughest fighters on the Syrian opposition. Which lead to some hilarious woopsies with Obama shipping them weapons.
In 2016 he cut Al Nusra's ties with Al Queda, purged AQ loyalists, and rebranded. Again, just seems like normal Arab infighting but a few months later AJ's group and allies allow Turkish patrols into the areas under their control, while at the same time despite losing their biggest sponsor they continue to remain very effective on the battlefield.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
(for those not geopolitically aware to know why they should be scratching their chins, Turkish "patrols" were basically trying to fuck with the Kurds who are a rebellous ethnic group in Turkey, and to smuggle oil from Syria's oil producing areas into Turkey)

Anyway, in the final days of the Assad regime, AJ collects a few allied groups plus his and merges them into HTS. This is the group that leads the final push into Assad's rump state. In the chaos going on, AJ moves swifty through fell rebel and regime loyalists, many already expecting him, and makes deals or those hardliners don't survive the chaos of the fall of the regime.
Its almost like there was...some sort Glowing Brown Hand guiding him through the collapse of the regime and securing power. Very, very curious. Also very curious is that the dust is still settling in the Presidential Palace, Turkey is first out the gate recognizing AJ's government and is also sending "turkish patrols" over the northen border to provide security & ordrer and set up check points in the northern parts of the country.

So one might look at all these events, and the fact AJ is getting aid both physical and financial, in getting his government to control Syria, and all that all of his policy decisions are in lockstep with E-dog's wishes and deduce that AJ is Turkey's puppet.
But that'd be silly. Surely this is all coincidence.

But Turkey E-dog and the Zionist Entity are on a collision course. E-dog wants to reform the Ottoman empire and be sultan. This is why he's gone hard on Islamists tack and is trying to extend his control of former Ottoman areas. E-dog is trying to present Turkish Rule as a "third way" to the Iran/KSA cold war. He has fully puppeted Syria, and has captured Azerbaijan too via military aid for their spat with Armenia. He wants to Suzerain Jordan and get Egypt into an Alliance, but mostly the goal is taking Iraq - specifically, breaking the power of Iraqi Kurdistan and getting the Sunnis on board.


However something I've read that I'm not sure I believe but I can't refute, made a case that E-dog and the Zionist Entity's spats are all Kayfabe so E-dog can hold himself out as The Man Who Tells the Eternal Jew to Go To Hell and boost his standing.
Key evidence for this is:
They collaborated in backing Azerbaijan.
Turkey has not slowed or stopped pipeline construction through turkey that go to The Zionist Entity, nor has Turkey raise any objections or concerns about Israel boosting its terminal production and what looks like a future as a Oil exporter by proxy.

He was the least worse option for leader. The US didn't want another Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan where the region is filled with insurgency, especially after the ISIS movement that plagued the region for the past decade. He was the best at trying to keep the country together. A Turk puppet is arguably better than fractured ISIS factions roaming the desert. At least you can push around a centralized government.

Every Turkish person I have talked to hates Erdogan. A calculated push from a CIA or Mossad operation would be enough to kick him out of power. The Lira is on a downward decline with no relief in sight and their economy is shit.

AJ has been so good of a leader pick I can't believe it and keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. I find it hard to believe he's a muslim.

Both sides claim they pushed the other into negotiations mostly on their terms. Both sides have very cogent reasons to put an end to this and both sides are also convinced they have to save izzat so they both act like they are only negotiating because they're so reasonable and nice

Reminder that Iran said they'd never negotiate period, then demanded money, the withdraw of all US forces from the Mideast, and the dissolution of the Zionist entity.
So I'm not sure that Iran's statements on their level of participation in peacetalks can be trusted to be reflective of reality.

 

[Alphasnail]

Esau was the first victim of global Jewry.

wait this was corrected up thread, right? Jacob and Esau were the sons of Isaac and Ishmael the bastard was the son born of Hagar the swarthy concubine. She could be said to be the first victim of global jewry, because she got cold feet about the Abraham polycule so they sent her wandering in the direction of Arabia with a loaf of bread and the progenitor of the equally obnoxious, yet shockingly incompetent race of the arabs. The Jews really screwed up being obsessed with tracking origins of different peoples in the region, because the whole Ishmael thing opened the door to the perfidious Mohammed, pee be upon him, writing his gay fanfiction where Ishmael is the chosen son.

That brings us to today where I can't shake the feeling that Qatar is fast becoming the next worst country in the ME after Iran. The fuckers propagandize at least as hard as Iran, even going so far as to buy Tucker Carlson for the pundit equivalent of a saudi toilet party. They harbor the worst terrorists, even if they're not always running the terrorism themselves, and they're the biggest faggiest stick in the mud in getting on the "lets buckbreak Iran" train. These guys can't wait to trip over their robes to cuck to everything Iran demands. I don't get it. Are they that afraid that they can't defend their yummy LNG, or are they just so in love with the shiitestains that they don't mind getting knocked around like a two bit goatwhore?

 

[TheClappening]

wait this was corrected up thread, right? Jacob and Esau were the sons of Isaac

Even if the OP's story was mostly wrong, Esau still got Jew'd.

Dude was utterly famished, but instead of Jacob just being a good kid brother and getting him something to eat, he jew-bargains for it and demands Esau forfeit his inheritance for a bowl of lentils.

Then, on top of that, Jacob disguises himself as his brother (using a goatskin since Esau was a hairy dude) and tricks their dad Isaac into bestowing his Abrahamic blessing onto him.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Gas prices have never been higher in my area, yet the feds refuse to permit drilling of oil on the northern coast of alaska (one of the most oil rich sites on earth). It's clear they want the goyim to suffer, as well as trying to galvanize hatred against Iran, as if the war that the jews started was their fault and oil prices going up had nothing to do with AIPAC America expanding greater Israel for 40 years...

Does anybody believe if America wasn't co-opted by jewish banking and actually utilized the natural resources we have here at home that there would be any reason for us to be sticking our circumcized cocks into the desert? Hope everyone enjoys the fucked pricing because it isn't going anywhere. This also works out in the favor of our rootless bankers and monopolists because they have a shit load of debt to debase as America is put out to pasture as the golden calf. Next up, China.

Iudea Delenda Est.

 

[Total Annihilation]

Gas prices have never been higher in my area

Idk if it was as high as it was during the Biden era, but it was high then, during the 2008 financial crisis, and those 2 times in the 70s when gas was being was rationed.
In my area gas prices are going down again, not as fast as I'd like, but it's cheaper each week I've gotten gas for a few weeks now.