Why do kiwifarmers hate jews but also hate paganism? - How the fuck does it make any sense?

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Honourable mention to wiccans who acknowladge this and just made up a whole new religion from scratch and rolled with it.
It's just syncretism that borrows heavily from Western occult practices. There's nothing really new there.

This is from the bio of the creator Gerald Gardner.
After his retirement in 1936, he travelled to Cyprus and penned the novel A Goddess Arrives before returning to England. Settling down near the New Forest, he joined an occult group, the Rosicrucian Order Crotona Fellowship. Through this group, he encountered the New Forest coven into which he was initiated in 1939. Gardner portrayed the coven as a survival of the theoretical "witch-cult" discussed in the works of Margaret Murray—a theory that is now discredited. He supplemented the coven's rituals with ideas borrowed from Freemasonry, ceremonial magic, and the writings of Aleister Crowley to form the Gardnerian tradition of Wicca.
Considering his background as a British colonial official, you could make the case, along with Crowley, that a lot of new age paganism is just a ploy to push English individualism and more alternative cults as opposed to the older all-pervasive Roman Christendom that binded all of Europe and something more in line with enlightenment values that mixes well with English democratic capitalism as opposed to clergy centered medieval feudalism. Protestantism led the way to all of this. There's no such thing as a new clean religion from the ground up as you would have to be completely isolated from the rest of the world for that to possibly exist.
 
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Pagans do that tarot card shit right? The fortune telling stuff is pretty fun. Not paying 20$ for it but it feels like you are in a video game cutscene.
Someone tell my fortune! Determine if my future is Honorary Jew or Wiccan Sacrifice.
 
The farms is just a sample of people who live in the Western world, which is predominately Christian. And, like everywhere else, we have a gradiant of Jew lovers to Jew haters, with a healthy mix of trolls who basically say whatever they think will get people riled up.

Israel is declining in popularity and since it's a religious state, and many Jews advocate for Israel, a lot of people conflate the two. It doesn't help that the loudest Jews are often the most repulsive. All other groups suffer from this to an extent but jews are such a tiny population that it propbably has a disparat effect on them.

Paganism is the mortal enemy of monotheism and modern pagan stuff is like 99% worthless scam shit. Ryan Long has a joke about a woman trying to sell him a crystal "that would make him rich." To which he replied, "yea but you have a bucket of them and your job is selling rocks." Pagans are also accosiated with wokeness and there are a lot woke-refugees these days.
 
Pagans do that tarot card shit right? The fortune telling stuff is pretty fun. Not paying 20$ for it but it feels like you are in a video game cutscene.
Someone tell my fortune! Determine if my future is Honorary Jew or Wiccan Sacrifice.
Tarot cards use images from the bible (some obvious ones: the pale rider, the tower of babel, the resurrection and final judgement) so you could argue that the idea of using them for fortune telling (though they were originally just a nonstandard format of playing cards) is more "satanic" than "pagan". Though in the context of more contemporary woo woo bullshit these kinds of nuances probably don't mean much.
 
Proper Occidental Greco-Roman paganism revolved around ancestor worship and keeping the cult of the ancestors alive with the keeping of the family hearth of the house. This stems from the Vedic Indo-European tradition but is also practiced in most of the old world. The head of the household was the head priest of the family cult/religion that the wife, kids and slaves of the house had to honor. Once you married your wife, she had to leave her religion she grew up with and convert to her husband's familial one, as the husband/head priest was the gatekeeper and head of the tradition that he would leave to his son that would replace him, initiating him and showing him the proper rituals and rites of the cult. He is the center of the wifes world in body and devotion, as he himself is the keeeper of the center which is the hearth. Then you had the state cult religion that everyone knows as regular Greco-Roman paganism. The various family cult religions worked in tandem with the state religion in harmony, but one had to respect the state religion since it worked as the center of all the cults, including the mystery cults, that functioned in sort of like a mafia clan system with the state cult actibg as the godfather.

Obviously Christianity helped tear this down and acted and as a power grab for certain groups. You could revive the older ancestor worship of paganism, but how would this fare with modern individualism and feminism? it doesn't, it will just be some fringe cultic practice unless a majority of people are following the same practice, which is a nono in our modern atomized but culturally Christian society, so obviously it looks like nonsense since, in essence, it's the complete opposite of modern ideals.
 
Pagans do that tarot card shit right? The fortune telling stuff is pretty fun. Not paying 20$ for it but it feels like you are in a video game cutscene.
Someone tell my fortune! Determine if my future is Honorary Jew or Wiccan Sacrifice.
Tarot divination is occult/western mysticism that appeared around 200 or 300 years ago. By definition, it can't be pagan, since pagan refers to minor ancient/traditional religions, many, if not most, of which are forgotten.
 
Tarot cards use images from the bible (some obvious ones: the pale rider, the tower of babel, the resurrection and final judgement) so you could argue that the idea of using them for fortune telling (though they were originally just a nonstandard format of playing cards) is more "satanic" than "pagan". Though in the context of more contemporary woo woo bullshit these kinds of nuances probably don't mean much.
The cards themselves were commissioned by Italian Catholic noble families with the influence of Christian hermetic Neoplatonism that was rampant at the time of the Renaissance. They used the Platonic Christian Kabbalah as a framework for the soul's guide to the one (God). The arcana archetypes themselves represent 22 pathways to the Sefirot (planets) that could be used for divination, which is usually associated with grifting Gypsies, and now it's used for self-help nonsense. So yeah, it could be viewed as satanic or completely in line with tradition depending on the person you're asking.

If you look at the Sola Busca tarot deck then you could say these families possibly did practice witchcraft/black magic, but that's another conversation.
 
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Show me your pagan gods, your pagan church, your pagan communion, your pagan holidays, your pagan family, friends, and social network.

You cannot, because pagans do not have the foundations of a real religion, just a handful of individuals sperging out online.

Jews, for what they're worth, are an actual organized religion and act the part. Their religion may have some pretty backwards, contemptible beliefs from a Christian standpoint, but at least they have a religion. Even if they're spiritually forbidden from using an elevator on weekends because they're backwards retards.
you rarely run into jews in real life that resemble the type of conservative judaism that you see presented on television by Schmuley Boteach. such jews are frequently used in a rhetorical exercise of piety where even THEY aren't as devout as the REAL devout jews, the ultra-orthodox. What's confusing about the jews to a gentile is that the religion doesn't really provide any guidance on why certain things are important and what they mean, jews point to groups of other jews somewhere else out there in the world to provide structure for their own lives.
 
but then shit on religion that's literally connected to your roots
Because paganism is gay. I guarantee you no one who larps as a European pagan online actually engages in any of the rituals, and that’s if there’s even any rituals to engage in when these are dead religions. The only people that CAN be pagan these days without larping are those who engage in Hinduism and Shintoism. The former being complete garbage, look at India. The latter being purely cultural. No one in Japan actually believes Shintoism is real. I guess Buddhism also counts as pagan but that’s barely even a religion.

Also speaking from experience as someone who has unfortunately interacted with a good number of pagan larpers online, I have found all of them low IQ, unlikable, and whiny which gives me the impression that they all do this because they’re social rejects. To add on, none of them advocate for some sort of truth in paganism, they just wanna bash Christianity constantly. And don’t even get me started on left wing pagans. It’s the new atheism and so they don’t deserve to be taken seriously and in fact deserve to be laughed at.

(As a side note, the ancestors that I know of were Catholics and Mormons which is why I get irritated when people tell me, not you specifically but other people, that as someone with European ancestry I should be pagan because my ancestors were pagan apparently? Even though I would have no clue what gods my ancestors worshipped thousands of years ago but anyway, I’m ranting.)
 
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shit on religion that's literally connected to your roots
(As a side note, the ancestors that I know of were Catholics and Mormons which is why I get irritated when people tell me, not you specifically but other people, that as someone with European ancestry I should be pagan because my ancestors were pagan apparently? Even though I would have no clue what gods my ancestors worshipped thousands of years ago but anyway, I’m ranting.)
I can't resist
 
Like you say joow bad
Who says what, exactly?
I just think this way of thinking is incredibly retarded.
What way of thinking?
Why shouldn't Christians be critical of Judaism? What flaws in the Christian religion are you talking about, and how serious a challenge do you think they pose? What makes paganism a better alternative? Which religion specifically are you referring to by paganism anyway, how is it practiced?

You haven't explained any of this. The way you talk sounds like you went on reddit when you should've been in Sunday school.
 
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Glad I get to break out this badboy again. There's also the fact that Christ died for both Jew and Gentiles to be saved so long as they followed His commandments.

You can also dislike other religious groups for different things: I don't care for the Jewish people due to their continued rejection of the Messiah amongst other things, and I don't care for the Pagans due to the lust of power they ask of the false gods.
There's also the fact the American Pagans tend to "want to preserve the tradition of their ancestors" despite:
A.) They more often than not are Odin or Hellenistic Pagans despite not having a drop of Nordic or Greek blood in them, and
B.) Their ancestors converted more often than not as soon as they heard the Gospel preached in their lands.
The inherent flaw with neopaganism is that its adherents identify with it do so for self-centered reasons. They want power, or they have some vague notion that it is "based" (aka it conveniently reaffirms beliefs and biases they already held).

They do not have any affirmative reasons why their idiosyncratic brand of "paganism" is the objective Truth that governs the universe.
Jews worship demons like remphan, pajeets worship dead monkey gods. Seems pretty obvious why we should hate both. Come on now...
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Why is it so many kiwifarmers claim they hate jews, but then, when you bring up the flaws of christianity and existance of paganism they see paganism as nothing more then oooga booga shit, even though it is the first truly european religion, unlike christianity, that chipped out of judaism and was made by jews?
Christards can sometimes be the most obnoxious buffoons and even more so when they attempt to justify their antisemitism or racialism with Christian doctrine despite both being widely condemned by many Christian institutions and are completely incompatible with Christianity (Catholic Church has a mixed race saint, Martin de Porres). And don't get me started on Christian Identity people, dumb asses who larp as 'da real jooz' and that 'Whites are the real Israelites' nonsense.
I don't mind Christians, I don't really hate them, I just like baiting them for reppeys, but I've rarely seen one that is capable of not coming across like a tard that only plays pretend with Christianity for larp while living lives that are so far removed from an actual pious lifestyle that they may as well be secularist only they like wearing cross chains and quoting half-remembered bible quotes.
 
Wignats only believe the "Christianity is a Jew psyop" meme because their two e-daddies said so:
  • Varg Vikernes, a convicted murderer and incompetent "survivalist" who lives off gibs from his brother;
  • William Luther Pierce, a child-abusing autogynephile con man whose magnum opus is a wish fulfillment fantasy on par with Andrew Dobson and Sonichu comics.
 
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