Why do kiwifarmers hate jews but also hate paganism? - How the fuck does it make any sense?

[Sargon's wife's son]

you rarely run into jews in real life that resemble the type of conservative judaism that you see presented on television by Schmuley Boteach. such jews are frequently used in a rhetorical exercise of piety where even THEY aren't as devout as the REAL devout jews, the ultra-orthodox. What's confusing about the jews to a gentile is that the religion doesn't really provide any guidance on why certain things are important and what they mean, jews point to groups of other jews somewhere else out there in the world to provide structure for their own lives.

If someone who is raised Jewish know there is actually a lot of. Fundamental rules on Judaism. I laugh when people say the Jews run the porn industry. Judaism has the exact same rules on homosexuality. Being an underhanded Dick. And sexual perversion as every other form of Abrahamic faith besides Islam. Islam thinks you can have sex and rape. Children and none. Muslims.
But the fundamental problem, and the reason I left the religion of Judaism is because. Jews tend to try in what I call box with God. God is all knowing and all seeing. Also, I got into it with a rabbi once. Who I argued with. Because I. No way to wire up outlets that no fundamentally. You can turn on the TV and use the stove. As long as using an electric stove and not a gas stove 'cause you're objectively not creating fire.

And that what you really should be doing on the Sabbath is relaxing. And doing things more closely related to your family. And God.
Paganism. I've hung out with some white nationalist pagans. They're nice people and they do believe that they're actually praying to their gods. But fundamentally the problem with it is that most of my ancestors. Well, half of them converted to Orthodox Christianity in Ukraine. The modern Ukrainian state. An extension the Russian state was only unified under. Orthodox Christian rulers. In the 10th century and then freed from violent. Asiatic step nigger oppression. By orthodox rulers.

Go to Poland and say they should worship the Polish Pagan gods rather than Christ. They're gonna laugh at you 'cause the modern state of Poland was created by Christians. Same thing with Estonia, Latvia. and Finland.
Christianity unified a lot of European countries that were feuding tribes into powerful economic. And cultural centers.

 

[Token Faggot]

Besides, I hate islam and muslims so much that there isn't much space left for Jews and pagans.

I have a little space left for the "Queers For Palestine" retards, but the other 99% of hate I have is for Islam and Muslims too

 

[big pauper]

I do have a problem with at least a portion of the jews that don't actually benefit from it (really they are being hurt by it). The ones I'm talking about decidedly aren't part of the people directly doing the things I mentioned, at least some of it. They are the ones defending organizations like the ADL, with a victim complex that goes back to ww2 (some of them even further back). The best explanation I've seen for why these ones act like that, is mostly propoganda has convinced them the state of Israel must exist or they're going to get holocausted, if the white people get too organized, or too powerful, they will get holocausted. If people point out the corrupt shit their leaders do and say, take guess. At least the logical conclusion to the arguement they make is X thing is going to lead to another holocaust, and me mum gettin turned into a lampshade.

My problem is more with the people that have actual power, but the ones that don't that enable the powerful ones I think are just as bad. I don't hate all jews, if I see ones that I think are actually decent people, who don't do what I'm talking about up above I really have no problem with them. But I also refuse to just say it's Zionists, or some other word because the problem here does center around the jews. Not all jews, but that should go without saying. And of course christian zionists play a role in this, but it's not the leading role, and I hate christian zionists too, but more from the view that they're traitors (and I probably hate them more for that reason). I really find nothing redeaming about them, and I could go on, and on about how much I despise what they do in the name of christianity, but that seems like a topic for another thread.

you literally can just draw a line at zionism, though. The jews are the exiled israelites, if they move back to israel then they aren't in exile any more. Zionism annihilates the sole defining characteristic that cleaves the jewish people. They don't have a shared base of genetics or culture - they're the exiles from the bible. it's a basic rational observation that zionism is the thing that has essentially already destroyed the jewish people because it has left them entirely ideologically codependant on a 13 mile wide strip of land in the middle east and unable to argue for themselves individually.

That kind of forced codependency is very common in jewish control mechanisms, and it's actually completely unsupported in their religious texts. Traditionally, they're extremely well educated and clever. Maimomedes was pretty vocal about improving the quality of your person. Educating yourself, being physically capable, and understanding the world around you as rationally and scientifically as possible were the highest reverence you could show god. Unfortunately in the 17th century the messianic movements that started in eastern europe really did not like Maimomedes because he had like... rules and logic and sheeeeit. Which is why the hassidic jews do not believe in any of those things, it's centered around ignoring rationalism and living in a state of heightened emotion.

Those hassidic jews created the largest religious outreach organization in the world that is now the vast plurality of global jewry, and they're very proud of being heretical gnostic apostates that don't even attempt to hold themselves to the centuries-old standards they claim to hold themselves to. of course they will try and accuse you of being a racist and ruin your life for saying factually true and historically verifiable statements - they're gnostic apostates. That's like 90% of global jewry.

lurianic kabbalah, the hassidic belief system, is just gnosticism. The godhead fractured into discrete entities, the force of creation being held hostage, the metaphysical catastrophe that created the universe, and the veiled knowledge required for restoring the universe - it's all there verbatim. that's why /x/ is flooded with gnostic shit despite it seemingly being a dead religion. It's not actually dead religion, it's just entirely zionist jewish heretics

 

[donksmanSupreme42]

Shit I mean, are the og pagan religions even still a thing? Are there any traditions or actual sects left?

only one i can think of is hinduism kek

 

[Stunner900]

Shit I mean, are the og pagan religions even still a thing? Are there any traditions or actual sects left?

No, they died out and were replaced with Catholicism with folk saints.

Do people here actually hate jews because of what they believe? I think some of their beliefs are disgusting. But I hate them because of how they act. If jews happened to somehow have their beliefs, but didn't use them to justify their insane selfish behavior I wouldn't care less about jews, but sadly that's not the world we live in. And it's why I don't care about pagans. The government in my country isn't bought, and pressured by a giant lobby of pagans, we haven't gotten into wars over the last 20 years for a pagan run country, and destroyed our economy in the process. We don't have pagans stealing state secrets from us, while pretending to be our "closest ally", we don't have pagans constantly talking about how "as a white person, white people are horrible, and white priveledge is the most dangerous thing in the world." to the later admit "I'm not white I'm jewish". Pagans aren't the ones known for being greedy, underhanded liars, that seem to have the soul purpose of subverting everyone else for their own personal gain. You can increase the list ad infinitum.

If jews don't want to be hated, then maybe they should listen to why people hate them, instead of calling it antisemitism and givng copes like "being antisemitic is just in their DNA" (the people I've seen saying that are specifically saying that about Europeans, for those that haven't seen it before)

The attitude towards Jews is a fluctuation: hate for those that do wicked acts, annoyance because of their holocaust crying and exaggeration, sad/frustrated because they literally threw away salvation for..demon worship? They were literally given a head start on the plan.

 

[big pauper]

they literally threw away salvation for..demon worship? They were literally given a head start on the plan.

The traditional view of the jews is that the plan they were given says that he wasn't the guy. Which is an increasingly tall and difficult order to compartmentalize when christianity has become the dominant religion globally.

The heigellian synthesis is that the jews live a very difficult and ideologically pitched existence against a hostile world that refuses to admit their perspective. I can actually respect that even if I disagree with it liturgically

The problem is that they gave up abrahamic monotheism for polytheistic demon worship in the 17th century and ever since the holocaust have just whined about how hard their existence is fighting a pitched battle even though it's what they signed up for.

 

[Dr. Alan Grant]

OP is a Russian pooner by the way.

*Deluded Russian Pooner Femcel "Incel" who made a pity thread on Kiwi Farms

 

[debristar]

why do bad guys use public roads to commit crime?

 

[Gemarakup]

two things can be bad at once. the way to break free of Jewish slavery isn’t to larp as a pagan

most pagans just want the irrationality of religion but, like, tradly and white nationalistly. and they can’t bear to be secular because then they’ll have to quit their other “spiritual” mumbo jumbo

thankfully, religion is on the way out in most of the world. hopefully less civilized countries will join in too - India and the Muslim world look pretty bad now, but I think this will change quickly if it does. Islam is mostly a political philosophy / motivating force. Muslim areas where there aren’t political incentives for Islamic government and militancy are pretty secularized. Hinduism is used to rally Modi’s base, and to defend caste privilege. for all their other bad behavior at least intelligent Indians don’t believe in drinking glorious GAV MVTRA (cow urine) for good health, and once birth rates fall they won’t be as outnumbered and the scam will collapse

every scam everywhere will collapse in due time, the important thing is not to try to make new ones. paganism was a Nazi / Jap scam (SS cult rituals, state Shinto which was a modern adoption of traditional Japanese beliefs and not the original thing itself) to prop up those regimes which ended up doing harm, not good and died of their own irrationality. leaving Christianity is enough to beat the Jews - hence why the crying about lower rates of religiosity, how people “need religion,” etc. Ben Shapiro saying “as a Jew, go to Church,” the pozzed atheists suddenly saying that we need Christian culture back… it’s clear which way the winds are blowing

 

[VM_]

two things can be bad at once. the way to break free of Jewish slavery isn’t to larp as a pagan

most pagans just want the irrationality of religion but, like, tradly and white nationalistly. and they can’t bear to be secular because then they’ll have to quit their other “spiritual” mumbo jumbo

thankfully, religion is on the way out in most of the world. hopefully less civilized countries will join in too - India and the Muslim world look pretty bad now, but I think this will change quickly if it does. Islam is mostly a political philosophy / motivating force. Muslim areas where there aren’t political incentives for Islamic government and militancy are pretty secularized. Hinduism is used to rally Modi’s base, and to defend caste privilege. for all their other bad behavior at least intelligent Indians don’t believe in drinking glorious GAV MVTRA (cow urine) for good health, and once birth rates fall they won’t be as outnumbered and the scam will collapse

every scam everywhere will collapse in due time, the important thing is not to try to make new ones. paganism was a Nazi / Jap scam (SS cult rituals, state Shinto which was a modern adoption of traditional Japanese beliefs and not the original thing itself) to prop up those regimes which ended up doing harm, not good and died of their own irrationality. leaving Christianity is enough to beat the Jews - hence why the crying about lower rates of religiosity, how people “need religion,” etc. Ben Shapiro saying “as a Jew, go to Church,” the pozzed atheists suddenly saying that we need Christian culture back… it’s clear which way the winds are blowing

Religions are just totems/egregores that bind people and give them structure to prop up society. If you remove it, something else will easily replace it, whether it's diy spiritualism, sports fandoms, nationalism - a far cry from ancestor/tribal cults - or corporate media fandoms that use the same techniques religious cults use to bind people. Minority cabals will always find ways to BIND people to their bidding. Whether you're an atomized individual who doesn't need religion or part of a religious cult, it really doesn't matter in this liberal world, as long as you participate in society and pay your taxes, that is what they care about because nothing beats the grand totem of society itself.

 

[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

Religions are just totems/egregores that bind people and give them structure to prop up society. If you remove it, something else will easily replace it, whether it's diy spiritualism, sports fandoms, nationalism - a far cry from ancestor/tribal cults - or corporate media fandoms that use the same techniques religious cults use to bind people. Minority cabals will always find ways to BIND people to their bidding. Whether you're an atomized individual who doesn't need religion or part of a religious cult, it really doesn't matter in this liberal world, as long as you participate in society and pay your taxes, that is what they care about because nothing beats the grand totem of society itself.

Many of the regimes in the 20th century who clain to have no religion have a God in the name of Stalin and Pol Pot.

You cannot wipe away faith, all you can do is to sterlize it completely so it doesn't turn into politics.

There is no need for explanation on why subsittuting basic logic and rationality with faith (i.e. twisting Galen's medical theories into bloodletting quackery) is a bad thing.