Why do kiwifarmers hate jews but also hate paganism? - How the fuck does it make any sense?

[Black Man Underwear]

Ragebait spell fissled.

 

[Dainty's Inferno]

 

[NoCockatrice]

Are you referring to hating Jews as a "race" or the religion Judaism?

The funny thing is people who hate jews don't even know/give a fuck about this distinction

 

[Smart Turtle]

The funny thing is people who hate jews don't even know/give a fuck about this distinction

Why do you compare Paganism to Judaism? They are completely different. Most of Kiwifarms are Christians who oppose Paganism and clearly hate Jews since they are not fans of Jesus.

 

[VM_]

The way Islam is described in the Song of Roland was pretty amusing to me. Though really after you meet several muslims who love drinking booze till they drop yet still "celebrate" things like Ramadan you realize that it's just a tribal pseudo-religion with no internal consistency than anything more concrete or substantial. A lot of "muslims" in shitty little post-soviet countries that were raped into converting by the Mongols or whatever way back when are like that especially.

The Abbasid rebellion and the later Shiite rebellion/reformation was when dogma on what was considered Muslim or not started forming, especially once the civil war amongst the elites died down and the Asian invasion started that eventually gave way to the Crusades. Before then, most of the population were Christians being lorded over by an upper elite of Muslim Arabs (who were former Jews & Christians themselves). The same could be said with Medieval Christendom, as a lot of the population still held on to pagan superstitions and practices. It wasn't really till the Protestant Reformation that you had people taking the tradition seriously as a requirement to counteract the Catholics in piety, very similar to the Sunni/Shiite split.

 

[Rapesputin]

christianity, that chipped out of judaism and was made by jews?

Yeah, I wish there was a book, or even a collection of books, that addressed why Christianity, what with its Jewish roots, was/is a religion of and for goyim...

 

[Buckaroo]

Pagan cults, no matter where in the world they were born, are deeply rooted in homosexuality. Nordaboos venerate a cross dresser that acted as a woman and rode a horse born from a man that was impregnated by another horse. Want to worship Egyptian gods? Well they liked to have little contests that were won by making the other male drink their cum. Greek gods? Do I really need to go into what the ancient Greeks did?

OP is a homosexual.

 

[Rapesputin]

Depends on religion and denomination

Qaraites have always been nophono and are extinct today, and """Messianic Jews""" (really just final-form Dispensationalists) are considered goyish by Jews themselves
Every other Jew outside of those two groups is a Rabbinist (aka Pharisee) and believes that Jesus is a false messiah currently being boiled alive in a vat of shit in Gehinnom

 

[TheLostMarxBrotherFucko]

All your tribal bullshit annoys me OP.

 

[DSP for president 2032]

bro, they MADE Jesus

Yeah they MADE him carry that big wooden cross. Haven't you seen the Mel Gibson movie?

 

[Dead Lion]

Those religions were often dead for milenia, the only real trace of them being the odd statue dug up, malformed Christianized oral tradition and maybe a couple written sources, which are more than likely christian or arab. I doubt that any neopagan earnestly believes that odin/zeus/perun is actually real the same way that a christian believes in God. It's purely performative as a political statement or it's some kind of weird cult shit. In addition if we somehow brought an actual pagan with a time machine he would probably just call them blasphemers or heretics

And even if we had perfect information on them you can't just freeze a whole culture/religion in a neat box and then warm it up like a TV dinner. A religion will by it's nature change over time. If a neopagan cult allows this to happen then it will inadvertably become heavily poluted by christianity in one way or another, since most belivers will likely be former christians. If the cult instead enforces comically strict enforcment of dogma at which point it's going to resemble a histrorical reconstruction rather than an actual religion.

Honourable mention to wiccans who acknowladge this and just made up a whole new religion from scratch and rolled with it.

 

[QuatoLives]

Why are women into stupid things like paganism and witchcraft?

They see god/jesus as a form of 'daddy'.

They see wicca as diet satanism. All of the blasphemy and none of the guilt, and the modern mainstream generic 'christianity' allows the rebellion due to the belief that so long as you 'accept jesus into your heart before you die' you will be 'saved' and automatically go to heaven, just like 'daddy' will always allow them to come back home after they fuck up.

Most of the women I knew would 'convert' back to christianity once they got older or had a medical scare. For some of them though, it only lasted until one or more of their children trooned out or became homos.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Pagan niggas be like my God controls this specific town and that's it

 

[NoCockatrice]

I doubt that any neopagan earnestly believes that odin/zeus/perun is actually real the same way that a christian believes in God

Why?

They see god/jesus as a form of 'daddy'.

That's definitely not how real paganism works though

 

[Disastrously Dumb]

I dont think people hate paganism per se

its just the known paganism thats usually prevalent now are

the Paganism which sacrifice/eat/fuck kids associated with Epstein Island, and jewish elites
the Paganism which Wiccans practice where its a bunch of fat women with pink hair/blue hair and nose rings

and whatnot.

EDIT:
the whole Moloch/Molech thing

 

[Squanto Airi]

1) If the hate is towards judaism why hate jews? Not every jew is a judaist

Because the race acts like those who follow the religion.

2) On the advantages of paganism over christianity. I don't like the "turn another cheek" narrative of christianity. Christianity is also globalist compared to paganisms, a lot of which are ethnoreligions. Also paganism forces you to research and respect your ancestors which is cool. Paganism encourages success more than christianity, most of which churches and denominations condemn the rich.

I'll address each point:

1. Turning the other cheek is primarily meant for personal "enemies", whose crimes are merely affronting your izzat, for lack of a better term. You still must battle evil.
2. Sure, there is the globalistic aspect of a universal god promising salvation to all races. However, Christians are to be "in the world, not of the world", meaning to use the culture of the locals to preach, and oftentimes monks of the area would preserve the pagan myths due to the kernal of truth that would help lead to The Truth.
3. I agree it's cool to research and respect the ancestors on a certain level, but far more likely are your discoverable ancestors are worshipping Christians rather than a form of paganism.
4. Monetary success is fine - the love of money, avarice, greed, is the root of all evil. We see this with the current rich who'd rather import foreigners to save $0.05 so they can retire on a yacht rather than invest that money into helping native-born get jobs and improve their cities.

 

[Dead Lion]

Why?

Not the greatest metric but in general by observing/interacting with them.

I'm an Atheist myself (and was pretty much raised as such), faith is an utterly alien concept to me so I'm basically an outsider looking in. Whenever I interact with a devout christian it's very obvious how their faith deeply shapes who they are and informs their day to day decisions. Especially when reading novels written by them, such as Tolstoy or Tolkien. When it comes to neopagans I never get that feeling, it seems to me like their religion is something they do on the weekends but after that's done they hang up their robes, put on normal people clothes and behave like you average modern agnostic mystery meat. Which is odd since paganism is a very different belief system compared to anything else that they should stand out like a sore thumb. I get the same sense with turbo-devout internet TradCaths who spam "Christ is King" unprompted as well.

To give you an analogy once at a convention I was attending there were a bunch of people cosplaying as Sleeper Cultists from Gothic. They were behaving normally but at one point they all got together and performed a ritual from the game. After finishing said ritual they all dispersed and none of them probably mentioned the Sleeper once for the rest of the event. It's more or less the same thing: larp.

 

[GratsTheat783]

I think neo-pagans are generally disliked as the movement's very online-centric, there doesn't seem to be anything substantial under it all other than vibes and aesthetics with many of the adherents coming across as obnoxious as well, a mix of viking larpers ranting and trying to ragebait Christians on social media all day while the other treats it as Christianity but with (deity) over Jesus. (also many adherents are brown allegedly). With Paganism itself, it was basically killed off, much of what they believed and practised is completely lost to time and what little was preserved would have been preserved by Christians and would therefore be biased toward a Christian point of view, not to mention no direct line of succession. It's kind of like converting to Buddhism based on a Muslim's perception on what Buddhism is, but Buddhism is extinct and only bits and pieces of it remain.

 

[Private Tag Reporter]

Show me your pagan gods, your pagan church, your pagan communion, your pagan holidays, your pagan family, friends, and social network.

You cannot, because pagans do not have the foundations of a real religion, just a handful of individuals sperging out online.

Jews, for what they're worth, are an actual organized religion and act the part. Their religion may have some pretty backwards, contemptible beliefs from a Christian standpoint, but at least they have a religion. Even if they're spiritually forbidden from using an elevator on weekends because they're backwards retards.

 

[scallion]

Pagan niggas be like my God controls this specific town and that's it

Listen pal you'll be struck down if you ever cross into Decatur, Alabama