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Hugely agree. I honestly think women should never ever have any pressure to not be racist. None of us should, but women in particular. They're hugely retarded in many ways, but their gut instincts on safety should be listened to.

Regarding the man in a dress: defenders will say, "It's just clothes. Who cares?" I agree with that insomuch as we don't police what people wear or obstruct people from choosing their own style. But the reason it's normal to dislike that isn't superficial or unfounded. It's someone saying, "I am expected to behave a certain way for social cohesion, but I am not."

It's reasonable to find it odd, especially as a natural instinct. It can signal something seriously off and the intention is hugely important. It's why we don't consider a guy in drag for an SNL skit the same as some weirdo troon in his daily life. We're tribal creatures and it's normal to enforce tribal behavior in some ways. When it's a massive free-for-all, there are no lines in the sand to tell when someone really is crossing them.

It bothers me with how openly hateful the "queer" people are now to Christians in our country. Christians were the ones who were accepting enough of a lifestyle they have issues with. Now it seems they've been vindicated in their concerns, but nobody backs them up.
 
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If feeding your miswired reproductive instincts is not damaging to human psyche and health, then why do gays, statistically speaking, have worse outcomes than straights, when it comes to both physical and mental health, even in places that are very affirming to gays? Why is it that's the case even when it's adjusted for variables like anti-gay attitudes or mistreatment?
Because homosexuality will oftentimes come with isolation whether that be from only comprising 5% of the population or the fact that people naturally feel an aversion to things and people that are different.
 
Maybe she has this weird mental problem where she's mainly sexually attracted to scummy or thuggish men, and she assumes all men are evil so she goes for women next.
That doesn't make sense. I've been treated like shit by women my whole life because I'm disabled but never once have I thought about becoming a faggot. I dont get how bad experiences with the opposite sex can make someone queer.
 
Because homosexuality will oftentimes come with isolation whether that be from only comprising 5% of the population or the fact that people naturally feel an aversion to things and people that are different.
Wonder why this doesn't apply to literally any other thing which is 5%. Like Samoans are maybe 5% right? They don't seem crazy. Just gays and trans....

That's a cop out and you know it. Its not because they are a minority, especially because communities exist of mostly fags and its not better.

Can't help but think of the movie bros that despot of antrim broke down, and there's 1 scene in it where the lead fag says "love is love is love" was just a bs campaign made up to trick straight people.


This is very common in the LGBT, lie outwardly, but say the truth in the in group.
My "lesbian" coworker is like this. Shes a mentally ill piece of white trash that had a bunch of bastard kids with a thug looking nigger who left her and now shes playing housewife to this ugly bulldyke. I dont get it either, why not get a man at that point?
My guess is its a penis complex, which only applies to real dicks, or more likely, women are aware men are very different than women. A bull dyke FEELS like a woman does emotionally, just with more testosterone. She WANTS the testosterone, but not the male brain.

Good example, men have A thing called a nothing box which only men have, masculine men, girly men, mtfs have it.... but no woman, girly, Butch, or pooner can ever access it.

Parallel is a guy getting with a trap / tranny because they can't handle womens fickle emotions, but STILL want feminity. Its a compromise of sorts.

Also as for being treated poorly, i think it comes if you BELIEVE those relationships are impossible or just very difficult...or if trauma is so much it snuff's lust. But also its not so straightforward, some women get raped and become slutty, some get raped and become cold.. it's kinda like that, it's not just the event, but how it's compartmentalized.
 
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Wonder why this doesn't apply to literally any other thing which is 5%. Like Samoans are maybe 5% right? They don't seem crazy. Just gays and trans....
I mean it does apply when talking about racial and ethnic minorities but that's heavily dependent upon how different they are from the people they're around, how numerous they are, etc. Trannies are just straight up mentally ill this is already known.
especially because communities exist of mostly fags and its not better.
To hazard a guess, it's probably because the only homosexuals interested in living in gay only communities or things of that nature are sex pests who just want easier access to men or women.
 
My "lesbian" coworker is like this. Shes a mentally ill piece of white trash that had a bunch of bastard kids with a thug looking nigger who left her and now shes playing housewife to this ugly bulldyke. I dont get it either, why not get a man at that point?
I'm sure there's a big (or sometimes small :D) difference between a man and a masculine woman.
 
Can't help but think of the movie bros that despot of antrim broke down, and there's 1 scene in it where the lead fag says "love is love is love" was just a bs campaign made up to trick straight people.
Some of you need to stop and really think about how retarded you sound. A Youtuber's reading of a shitty Hollywood movie being palatable to your preconceived notions of faggots is not the same thing as evidence that gay people are categorically liars trying to trick to straight man. Are you stupid?
 
Tolerating shit we innately find repulsive fucks with us, like imagine if you were trained to eat "off" tasting meat. The fact you are trained to find it acceptable would completely damage your ability to detect toxins elsewhere, even if the off meat was somehow ok.
I've been thinking about this but in a completely different context just a few hours ago. I've been told to ignore my sensitivity to air pollution and virtual inability to consume shitty food. The argument was that "well, we're used to that", as if that's a moral failure. These people aren't "used" to that either, they're just ignoring the connection between their health issues, look decades older than they actually are, and die earlier. You can't fool God's design, you can only suppress and gaslight people into delusion to the point where they will accept any self-destructive program you set into their minds.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the world is the way it is, and that includes both junk food/processed garbage being shoved down our throats and normalization of literal fetishes. What liberals are currently doing is the mental equivalent of AQI 100: sure, you can claim that most people are unaffected in the short term by this and you're just a sensitive crybaby, but realistically the population is getting chronically poisoned in low doses. The effects of that are manifesting themselves only after long years have passed, and here we are, in 2026, around few decades after this stuff became mainstream, seeing the initial effects. Might get even worse in the future, for example, most trans people are still "asleep", the HRT industry is still booming, and grand detrans backlash along with identifying transition as modern day lobotomy is still set in the future. Not sure about LGB people though. Well, I heard HIV is on the rise again, so there's that.
Good example, men have A thing called a nothing box which only men have, masculine men, girly men, mtfs have it.... but no woman, girly, Butch, or pooner can ever access it.
Now I have a new rabbit hole to descend into, it's such an interesting topic. From what I'm getting from googling it, I disagree that women can't access it; if I'm reading correctly, then I surely have a capacity of autistically shutting down my mind while my hands are busy doing whatever they're focused on. Whether I prefer it to multitasking or not is a whole other story though, because I definitely prefer that, as well as having my mind to overwork to the point where I enjoy living in "two realities". What people call "maladptive daydreaming" is a productive state of mind for me, where I'm simultaneously daydreaming and focusing on what's actually going on. Reality+, if you may. But like I said, I think women are capable of a nothing box, it might be a skill issue since I'm pretty sure I learned it from practicing meditation along with fishing that is often mentioned in articles on the subject I'm reading.

Either way, being able to have a capacity or not, the preference is still clear and it all makes me think yet again how retarded gender-based hatred is. Same goes to homosexual communities in any sense, all these gay/lesbian/men only/women only separatist communities that desperately want to remove a whole class of a human being from their every day existence, when that said class was made to compliment them. Men are autistically coded, women are ADHD coded, and that's what truly makes a "traditional", functional family/couple, not some arbitrary gender stereotypes. Men can't live without women, and women can't live without men. If anyone thinks they can, they're blind or are just privileged enough to have access to indirectly consume labor of the opposite sex.
 
Some of you need to stop and really think about how retarded you sound. A Youtuber's reading of a shitty Hollywood movie being palatable to your preconceived notions of faggots is not the same thing as evidence that gay people are categorically liars trying to trick to straight man. Are you stupid?
Billy Eichner is one of the most vile asshats alongside Troye Sivian.
 
To hazard a guess, it's probably because the only homosexuals interested in living in gay only communities or things of that nature are sex pests who just want easier access to men or women.
I mean I agree they are sex pests....but still this is effectively controlling for all this isolation, and doesn't improve things.

These checks help, because you could make the same argument for those huffing paint, but a community filled with paint huffers wouldn't suddenly be well.

its why I say its a cop out engineered to make people be nice to homos, NOT to fix anything. Its an engineered play to turn valid critism into "NO U", making people think its actually THEIR fault faggots are weird and crazy, and if it not better then THEY aren't trying hard enough.

a shitty Hollywood movie being palatable to your preconceived notions of faggots
I mean this is a movie made by faggots, with a near 100% lgbt cast, for faggots. Its a shitty movie yes but I don't think you could EVER say its not directly from the mouth of a faggot.

Basically a gay wrote that, performed that, edited that, and said "this is so great and profound" and produced it.

Want to get mad, get mad at the guy who made it.

I disagree that women can't access it; if I'm reading correctly, then I surely have a capacity of autistically shutting down my mind while my hands are busy doing whatever they're focused on
I'm TRUSTING you are indeed a true and honest woman and not a troon, but you might be confusing being able to focus, with the mid and thought train kinda shutting off.

Best example of this is the trope of a woman asking what a guys thinking, he says nothing, she gets mad....he could INDEED be thinking absolutely nothing in that moment.

What people call "maladptive daydreaming" is a productive state of mind for me, where I'm simultaneously daydreaming and focusing on what's actually going on.
this is NOT the nothing box though, the fact you are daydreaming means you are thinking.

I mean if you are doing a task, and your mind is just a blank state, no thoughts, no wondering, no weighing, no pondering......just as blank as a waiting command terminal in a computer.
Men can't live without women, and women can't live without men. If anyone thinks they can, they're blind or are just privileged enough to have access to indirectly consume labor of the opposite sex.
yeah....I admit I'm particularly resentful towards dykes who hate men but ALSO expect tons of free shit from men, treating them like shit normally but being "civil" only long enough to extract what they need.
 
its why I say its a cop out engineered to make people be nice to homos, NOT to fix anything. Its an engineered play to turn valid critism into "NO U", making people think its actually THEIR fault faggots are weird and crazy, and if it not better then THEY aren't trying hard enough.
You do realize that I gave you two reasons for the isolation with one reason merely being built on top of the information provided in the other right? The issue of homosexuals accounting for 5% of the global population will never be resolved which is why we cluster together in cities to compensate.
 
I'm TRUSTING you are indeed a true and honest woman and not a troon, but you might be confusing being able to focus, with the mid and thought train kinda shutting off.

Best example of this is the trope of a woman asking what a guys thinking, he says nothing, she gets mad....he could INDEED be thinking absolutely nothing in that moment.
No, I'm definitely not confusing it, I think? This has happened to me multiple times as well, I was asked what I'm thinking about, but there was nothing to answer as I just zoned out mentally for hours. I was asked by women mostly, which further fueled my NLOGism, but I had some men ask the same thing and get mad if I said I wasn't thinking about anything.

this is NOT the nothing box though, the fact you are daydreaming means you are thinking.
Yeah, I know, I already switched the topic by that point to refer to what I prefer doing (actively daydreaming/pondering on stuff while doing other stuff) vs what I'm capable of doing (aka doing a single channeled thing while having a completely empty head).
 
Why out of all minority groups are queers (or those who identify as LGBTQ) the most extremely aggressive and vicious minority group online, especially in Fandom spaces? I know some non whites usually make art of white characters as black or other non white races, but I can't remember the last time someone was threatened for making white characters the skin color they're portrayed in the show. Meanwhile, if you dare think a character is straight (especially if their sexuality is not 100% certain but its most likely they're straight) queers will attack you and treat you as if you committed the greatest sin in the world and there was even a time where queers threatened to link spoiler plots for an anime (which would have gotten staff fired) if they didn't make this one gay ship on the show canon. There's also the fact that queers are perfectly fine with calling straight ships hetslop even when the ship is perfectly fine but if you dare call out a same sex ship with 0 chemistry slop, they accuse you of homophobia even if the ship makes 0 sense. I dont know if its me but it feels like queers in general are very insufferable when it comes to fandom spaces for how controlling and entitled they are in these spaces and outcast you if you dare like a straight ship.
 
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Alright, here's my analysis of men becoming gay/trans which nobody asked for:

Why do men become gay?

Straight men who troon out:
I've noticed this pattern commonly amongst previously straight men turning "trans" and then trying to date men despite never doing so before. I believe this is a combination of estrogen suppressing innate sexuality, less desire for females, combined with a hypersexuality (seems counterintuitive I know, but imagine a guy who has climaxed but still masturbates despite being in a refractory period), desensitization to gay stuff (when you expose yourself to something disgusting, you get used to it, think morticians), and a fetish for feeling like a woman, which they would feel more like a woman if they were with a guy, hence more likely to do so. All of this seems to cause previously "straight men" to "become" gay or more accurately "fine" with gay things.

Previously straight men who become bisexual: Most modern day "gays" seem to be mostly comprised of hyper-sexual men. Most of them don't seem to have an innate disgust of women, but rather are so horny/degenerate they get over their innate disgust for men to satisfy their hypersexuality. They initially start off as normal horny men, but over time become desensitized to gay stuff through porn, requiring "harder" porn to satisfy themselves like a drug addict upping their dose over time. Can also be started by desperation.

Men who turned gay at puberty: Bit of a mystery on this one. Somehow never developed an attraction to females at all. A lot of people seem to claim its from trauma, sexual assault, or rape which caused them to be gay, but it doesn't seem to be the case. There is a trend of early porn exposure, autism, and sensitivity, but there are so few men seemingly like this its difficult to find a pattern or say one causes the other or if it is innate or not. Usually bottoms.


Why do men turn into trannies?
Generally, it seems to be related to three core factors:
Derealization, autism, fetishism.

De-realization: Ego death, detachment from self identity or a lack of one. Can be caused by autism, schizophrenia, drugs or trauma. Many trannies troon out after an LSD trip or smoking lots of weed and "realizing" they're trans, autists are less likely to have an innate self identity separate from some logic system.
Autism: Self explanatory, they're more likely to adopt radical ideologies, whether its "far right" or "far left," this includes gender idealogy, communism, etc.
Fetishism: Again, self explanatory, those who are hypersexual, develop a fetish for cross-dressing, trannies, femboys, etc. Hypersexuality may desensitize them to gay shit over time.

Usually a combination of these things cause a guy to transition. Previously straight men seem to transition more heavily due to fetishism and de-realization of some sort, while previously (white) gay men seem to transition due to autism and de-realization. There's been a weird quirk with brown gay men (brazilians or other mixes) where they transition entirely due to fetishism for cross-dressing or just chasing a high of sex.

Why do women turn trans?
Women tend to transition for different reasons than men
Generally its from some sort of trauma, ideological exposure, and desire for attention.

Trauma: Sexual assault, physical abuse, etc. They seem to feel transitioning will prevent men from wanting to rape them, similar to women making themselves ugly to avoid rape, it may be a way to feel secure again by becoming the stronger gender.
Ideological exposure: Women are much more likely to transition if their friends do or they're exposed to the idea of transgenders
Desire for attention: Self explanatory, many women just want attention and feel good having people cater to them with pronouns, name changes, child gloving them, despite them outwardly claiming otherwise.

I have not met a single woman who was "lesbian" and did not previously mostly have male sexual partners, gotten pregnant, or currently has a male sexual partner, so honestly I can't say anything about them or if they even exist. The rest of my analysis is entirely from observations of patterns I've noticed interacting with LGBT people.

Tranny Archetypes:

Blanchard:
AGP
: Straight men who become "trans lesbian" or "bisexual trans," previously used to transition in their 40s-60s, but now transition in their mid-late 20s. Older AGPs used to frequent boards like "Susan's place" and were called "hons." The modern AGP is now a silicon valley tech company worker who is heavily into anime or a male who never leaves the house and spends most of his time online. They frequent discord often and watch porn a lot. Seem to have turned their sexual attraction inward. AGPs hate Blanchard and will denounce him. More likely to have become trannies after exposure to progressive idealogy and as such more likely to hate on anything "right wing." Usually loud and annoying politically or with their identity. Can be found in polycules, vrchat, and discord. More likely to lie about when they "felt" trans, coming up with fake memories of "I was trans when I was 8."

HSTS: "Homosexual Transexual" men who were gay then transitioned. Usually transition younger than AGPs, generally lived as effeminate gay men before transitioning. Blanchard believed self hatred or internalized homophobia caused them to transition, but it seems more autism, ideological exposure, and a desire to look young/effeminate. I'm not sure why but some gay bottoms seem fixated on looking young/effeminate forever, some get over it, others fixate and become trannies. These seem to be extremely rare, 1-10% of trannies make up this category and AGPs routinely attempt to claim to be "HSTS" to "validate" their identity. This category may not generalize into reality well with the small number of cases of this happening.
 
I've been treated like shit by women my whole life because I'm disabled
I'm imagining you at Olive Garden or some shit getting dirty looks and insults from all the ladies as you're ripping around the lobby in your wheelchair masturbating. "Fucking ableists!"
Trauma: Sexual assault, physical abuse, etc. They seem to feel transitioning will prevent men from wanting to rape them, similar to women making themselves ugly to avoid rape, it may be a way to feel secure again by becoming the stronger gender.
I reckon lil doods think they'll be respected and feared like all the men around her. That's just their warped perspective, IMO, because they don't realize men have self-correcting mechanisms like getting in and knowing how dangerous fights are. I wonder if there's any anecdotal evidence on pooners like that. Given test > est, many can pass as little males with their whiskers and shit.
 
People are often drawn to Fandom online communities because they "ship" the characters, so ofc the "loudest minority group" are going to be sexual minorities.
Yes, i find this bitching over "fandoms are overrun by niggers reee" extremely gay, to be honest.

@plastic Consumer i think you're overthinking it. People have been having sex with same sex before agricultural revolution. Evolution works weird and it needs some people to not reproduce and instead help out their family/siblings. Homosexuality (and probably bisexuality) is likely caused by this.
 
Evolution works weird and it needs some people to not reproduce and instead help out their family/siblings. Homosexuality (and probably bisexuality) is likely caused by this.

Couldn't the same be said for any physical or mental illness that prevents people from reproducing, or even kills them before they can do so?

Do you believe in intelligent design or something? As if that intelligent designer is like, "Whoops, there are too many humans here now, better make more of them ghay!" Because that's exactly what you're saying.

That doesn't make sense. I've been treated like shit by women my whole life because I'm disabled but never once have I thought about becoming a faggot. I dont get how bad experiences with the opposite sex can make someone queer.

Dunno, political lesbianism is relatively common, political faggotry among men is basically unheard of.

Women are just weird.
 
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Couldn't the same be said for any physical or mental illness that prevents people from reproducing, or even kills them before they can do so?

Do you believe in intelligent design or something? As if that intelligent designer is like, "Whoops, there are too many humans here now, better make more of them ghay!" Because that's exactly what you're saying.



Dunno, political lesbianism is relatively common, political faggotry among men is basically unheard of.

Women are just weird.
Homosexuality and bisexuality isn't like a physical illness. Idk, as long as you don't catch STDs (which is fairly easy nowadays) you probably will live even longer than your straight counterparts given you only have to deal with your same sex, who you can get along easier.

Well, if we had a man's liberation movement, i'm sure "political gayness" or something like that would emerge. Something like MGTOW but imagine if MGTOW's were not whiners and actually took it seriously.

I don't know. I don't think "people like same sex because they're abused/cannot attract opposite sex" makes sense, because none of them apply to me.

Like how some people are born infertile. You shouldn't be infertile, nature gains nothing from this, but i think it's a sort of "population control".
 
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