John Melendez vs. Karl Heberger, Shuli Egar, "The Shuli Network" and "Who Are These Podcasts" [case #160416/2025 - New York County Supreme Court]

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UPDATE 10 FEB 2026: New case number #E2026002928 - Monroe County Supreme Court (h/t @Tefteli). I'm unable to change case number in title.

Writer's note: "Stuttering John" Melendez has his own thread on the Farms, created in 2022. This case is of interest as it's the latest chapter in a long term dispute between John and two other parties, Karl Heberger of Who Are These Podcasts? and Shuli Egar of The Shuli Network; both the Plaintiff and Defendants were the catalyst for the creation of the Dabbleverse (WIP PG thread).


PARTIES

PLAINTIFF

John Melendez

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"Stuttering John" Melendez is a former celebrity whose credits include The Howard Stern Show and The Tonight Show with Jay Leno. After the cancellation of The Tonight Show with Jay Leno in 2014, John turned to live streaming. During this phase of his career, he had two shows: a left-leaning political punditry show named "The Stuttering John Show", and a weekend hang-style stream titled "Beer On The Balcony".

John ceased full-time streaming at the end of 2024, and at the time of writing he ekes out a living doing stand-up comedy on a sporadic basis, along with the occasional appearance at nostalgia conventions across the USA.


DEFENDANTS

Karl Heberger

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Since 2018, John has been at war with Karl Heberger from Who Are These Podcasts? (WATP) over an especially harsh review of The Stuttering John Podcast in episode #109 of WATP.

Shuli Egar

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In 2021 fellow Howard Stern alumni Shuli Egar started a show dedicated to goofing on John titled "The Uncle Rico Show" on The Shuli Network YouTube channel.

The Shuli Network

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The Shuli Network (TSN) is a YouTube channel operated by Shuli Egar. Originally the home of just one show (The Shuli Show), it has since expanded to several shows, including The Uncle Rico Show and Point Dabble Point, the latter being shared with WATP. Other regular contributors to TSN include Mike Morse and the Reverend Bob Levy.

Who Are These Podcasts

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Who Are These Podcasts? (WATP) is a podcast co-created by Karl Heberger in 2015. WATP started out a show that mocked bad podcasts in a similar vein to how Opie and Anthony mocked bad radio shows during their "Jocktober" segments. Since then, WATP has morphed into a general internet drama podcast, collecting its own selection of lolcows along the way including Aaron Imholte and Chad Zumock.



ALLEGATIONS

COUNT I – UNAUTHORIZED COMMERCIAL USE OF NAME, IMAGE, LIKENESS, AND VOICE

Defendants have used Plaintiff John Melendez’s name, portrait/picture (image), and voice, within the State of New York, for advertising purposes and/or for purposes of trade, without Plaintiff’s written consent.

Defendants’ actions described above – including but not limited to:

(a) using Plaintiff’s name and photograph in promotional materials and online video thumbnails to attract viewers to The Shuli Network and Who Are These Podcasts broadcasts and to sell tickets to events,

(b) using Plaintiff’s voice by playing recorded audio of him during broadcasts and live shows as entertainment content to drive Defendants’ revenue, and

(c) theming entire commercial events (DabbleCon 2 and Dabble House) around Plaintiff’s persona – all constitute use of Plaintiff’s name, likeness, and voice for Defendants’ own advertising and trade purposes. These uses were intended to, and did, promote Defendants’ business ventures (their networks, shows, and events) and yielded direct commercial benefits to Defendants (including ticket sales, viewer donations, increased channel subscribers, and related merchandise sales).


COUNT II – COMMON LAW MISAPPROPRIAZTION (sic.) OF RIGHT OF PUBLICITY

At common law, it is a wrongful act to misappropriate for one’s own benefit the valuable property rights of another. Plaintiff Melendez’s name, likeness, voice, and persona have significant commercial value, as they are key aspects of his identity that he has developed and that have monetary worth in the entertainment industry.

Defendants’ misappropriation was unauthorized and in bad faith.

Plaintiff never gave permission for Defendants to exploit his persona.

Defendants’ actions were undertaken for competitive and commercial advantage, as Plaintiff Melendez earns his living through his performances, appearances, and his persona in media.

Defendants, by appropriating his persona without permission, essentially set themselves up as an unauthorized alternative source of “Stuttering John” content.

This usurped a potential market, especially in the largest market, NYC and NYC Metro (including NY Suburbs) that rightfully belongs to Plaintiff. If anyone were to profit from pay-per-view events or media derived from Melendez’s personal life, it should have been Melendez himself – not Defendants.

Defendants’ actions thus caused competitive injury to Plaintiff by siphoning off opportunities and by saturating the market with unauthorized content featuring Plaintiff, thereby diminishing the value of Plaintiff’s own brand and potential official projects.


COUNT III – UNJUST ENRICHMENT

Defendants obtained monetary benefits and other advantages by using Plaintiff’s name, likeness, voice, and persona without permission. Specifically, Defendants have received significant income from viewer donations, advertising revenue, ticket and pay-per-view sales, and perhaps merchandise or sponsorships – all as a direct result of featuring Plaintiff’s identity in their content. Those benefits were earned through the unauthorized exploitation of Plaintiff’s personal rights and reputation.



RELIEF SOUGHT

1. To stop Defendants from any further use of his name, image, likeness, voice, or persona without consent;

2. Monetary relief, including compensatory damages of no less than $300,000 to compensate for his injuries and Defendants’ profits derived from the misappropriation, and exemplary (punitive) damages of $300,000 to punish and deter Defendants’ knowing, egregious conduct;

3. An award of attorney’s fees and necessary costs and disbursements incurred in this action; and

4. Any other relief the Court deems proper.



RELATED THREADS

Stuttering John / John Edward Melendez / The Dabbler / @Stutteringjohnm
The Dabbleverse (currently WIP as at the time of posting)
Who Are These Podcasts?
 

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John deserved all of the scat porn and N-bombs that were thrown at him on his streams, and this just proves it even more
 
Excited to follow the case. Got introduced to the Dabbleverse through Rackets and all of these people need to be shot into the sun. The Dabbleverse is all of our retarded Uncles that we grew up with.
 
Excited to follow the case. Got introduced to the Dabbleverse through Rackets and all of these people need to be shot into the sun. The Dabbleverse is all of our retarded Uncles that we grew up with.
I’m excited for this boomer fight. John is a piece of trash and I hope he gets trounced so I can have a good many laughs. His weird and dishonest allegations are a good start.
 
Several years ago, John had attempted to sue SiriusXM demanding royalties for all his Howard Stern bits played on the channel. It was dismissed with prejudice (as, among other things, John neither owned the bits or even wrote them).

Frankly, I'm surprised it took John this long to file, after talking about it for years. Guess he finally sick of Karl taunting him about actually suing him. He's probably not going to win much on the "used my likeness" as Dabblecon (Dabblecon 2, Dabble House) neither used his name, his trademarks, or his face in the main marketing, only a few screengrabs.
 
I mean, I would say Karl has probably made a lot more money off of John in recent memory than John has made off of John, and the shit these dudes get up to is whack because both are bad people, but it probably ain’t gonna work out.
If you tried to explain the Dabbleverse to a judge his head would probably collapse into a singularity because of how fucking retarded this whole thing is. It’s the Naked Lunch of lolcow communities, just a bunch of insane drugged out psychosexual bullshit.
 
Finally, something John-related that might be amusing.

I stopped paying attention to the Dabbleverse like six months ago when it switched from a focus on John to being primarily about boring Steel Toe a-logging and Melton chomo apologia.

I'm playing catch-up here, but what's looking particularly fun to me in this is John's new lawyer, Tabber Benedict. Sounds like he could make Kevin Landau from the Maddox lolsuit seem like a flawless exemplar of the legal profession in comparison.

Some info from the main StutJo thread:
Might as well necro this thread with some news
A few months ago Stuttering John filed a demand to Shuli and Karl for $600,000. They wrote back a pretty snarky response which admittedly reminded me of the Karl Jobst situation.
As of this weekend Stuttering John has actually filed his retarded lawsuit after threatening to for several years. He's found his own Kevin Landau with a lawyer who went to prison for almost killing someone while drunk driving who also has trouble spelling his own name consistently
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There's a lot of holes in the complaints, like playing the recorded calls while he was in California, a two party consent state, but filing this in New York where it's a one party consent state.
Also shit like how they took his couch cushions he threw out out and displayed them at Dabblecon and how it's a violation of his privacy, when he threw them to the curb and left the state.
Also interesting, he filed it to the supreme court of New York

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After serving his time in prison, he appears to have attempted to restart his law career. My dude looks like Temu Patrick Bateman.

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Last I was aware John was too destitute to file anything, forget about paying a lawyer. Does anyone who's been paying attention have background on how John hooked up with this guy? The retards on r/DabblersAnonymous seem to be theorizing an Imbessi connection, but it's hard to make any sense of their Reddit jibber-jabber.

Website: https://www.benedictadvisorspllc.com/ (Archive)
Twitter: https://x.com/TabberBenedict (Archive)
 
Always enjoyed WATP and I would hope he wins but I gotta say, Karl’s been begging for a lolsuit from this fat retard for years. I assume that’s not going to affect the case though, John has been threatening to sue since they covered him. FYI The Creep Off is a better podcast if anyone likes Karl but gets sick of the dabbelverse crap.
 
Always enjoyed WATP and I would hope he wins but I gotta say, Karl’s been begging for a lolsuit from this fat retard for years. I assume that’s not going to affect the case though, John has been threatening to sue since they covered him. FYI The Creep Off is a better podcast if anyone likes Karl but gets sick of the dabbelverse crap.
I think he sees a lawsuit as the Maddox lolsuit situation where he’ll come out on top like Dax did (until Covid and guests were dropping off)
I still listen to WATP but his Dabbleverse schtick ad run its course. It was a funny gimmic a few years ago but now it’s constantly “they’ve entered the dabbleverse” “did you know you just entered the dabbleverse” and it must be harder to start listening now with little context than it was before John stopped his political show to threaten everyone he knows
 
I am excited for the lolsuit arc and think they do better talking about washed up commedians. But the Steeltoe smiletalking and Hollywood actor psychoanalysis babble slog (Seriously, 30 minutes a show!?) and Melton shit makes it not as entertaining. I'm like 90% sure Rekieta pays him to do Steeltoe. Even Who are These Broadcasters has been somehow funnier with time and those guys sucked hard.

I can only imagine them inviting Rekieta as their official lolsuit analyst as Buffy the Vampire Slayer praises his bravery and Karl cashes a check.
 
What the fuck is up with shockjocks and radio hosts who are happy to make fun of others immediately sperging out anytime someone makes fun of them back?
My nigger pattern recognition system seems to keep noticing this as a trend.
 
Oh no, another subject of Pedotips is suing.
What a shame!
Yet he isn't suing Pedotips. That's where he could actually have a case. Everything else listed in the overview seems like it would fall under fair use.

I remember a You Tuber, who covered Rittenhouse, making a coffee mug for her merch store with Kyle's picture on it. She was quickly informed by TeeSpring that they couldn't do that. You can't use someone's name, image, or likeness to sell a product unless that product is some type of show, skit, or performance.
One could argue a Pedotips TTS is a product in the same way a t-shirt or coffee mug is a product.

This looks like a lolcow wanting a lolsuit because people are making fun of him on the Internet.
 
Don't know shit about the Dabbleverse. Karl was always a queer on TDS and I never liked him even when Dick was listenable, but it seems like the sentiment is that John is a faggot on a scale Karl can't compare to. Hope everyone involved takes a massive financial hit.
 
Don't know shit about the Dabbleverse. Karl was always a queer on TDS and I never liked him even when Dick was listenable, but it seems like the sentiment is that John is a faggot on a scale Karl can't compare to. Hope everyone involved takes a massive financial hit.
John = Ralph without charisma
Karl = Cog who runs the sektur like a high-school clique
 
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