Ask men why they do things the way they do and maybe you'll get an honest answer

[Palmfish]

Question for the boys:

When I used to go to the gym, they had it set up so that the people working out could observe the ball courts and this big empty weight room. Regularly I would witness guys just... screaming while they were there. Working out and screaming as if they had gotten into lathe accidents or something similarly bad. Is there a guy-specific reason for this or were the guys in my old gym just maniacs?

extra question: why do you guys wear shorts outside in the middle of winter?

 

[sodaboard]

markus persson made minecraft because he knew how much men love to dig things and put things in other places

When I used to go to the gym, they had it set up so that the people working out could observe the ball courts and this big empty weight room. Regularly I would witness guys just... screaming while they were there. Working out and screaming as if they had gotten into lathe accidents or something similarly bad. Is there a guy-specific reason for this or were the guys in my old gym just maniacs?

they sound like roidraging autists, i've only heard one guy actually screaming at my gym and that was while he was doing reps. not enough reps/weight that matched the screaming but he was lifting something.

extra question: why do you guys wear shorts outside in the middle of winter?

because it's not that cold and because we can

 

[74164978231]

When I used to go to the gym, they had it set up so that the people working out could observe the ball courts and this big empty weight room. Regularly I would witness guys just... screaming while they were there. Working out and screaming as if they had gotten into lathe accidents or something similarly bad. Is there a guy-specific reason for this or were the guys in my old gym just maniacs?

If they aren't lifting serious weight, it's either obnoxious retardation or look at me ego.

 

[Waffle Iron]

Question for the boys:

When I used to go to the gym, they had it set up so that the people working out could observe the ball courts and this big empty weight room. Regularly I would witness guys just... screaming while they were there. Working out and screaming as if they had gotten into lathe accidents or something similarly bad. Is there a guy-specific reason for this or were the guys in my old gym just maniacs?

To establish dominance

extra question: why do you guys wear shorts outside in the middle of winter?

autists have reduced sensitivity

 

[crust enjoyer]

markus persson made minecraft because he knew how much men love to dig things and put things in other places

Looking at it like that, it starts to make sense why the troons have claimed the game for themselves.

 

[McMitch]

extra question: why do you guys wear shorts outside in the middle of winter?

 

[crust enjoyer]

Question for the boys:

When I used to go to the gym, they had it set up so that the people working out could observe the ball courts and this big empty weight room. Regularly I would witness guys just... screaming while they were there. Working out and screaming as if they had gotten into lathe accidents or something similarly bad. Is there a guy-specific reason for this or were the guys in my old gym just maniacs?

I used to do that. Both in the lifting gym and the climbing gym. It helped me (at least mentally) relieve the physical pressure/stress. I've become slightly less autistic since then, so I try to restrain myself and only let out grunts now.

extra question: why do you guys wear shorts outside in the middle of winter?

I have a limited wardrobe and during any given season I basically cycle the same 2-3 outfits. It takes concious decision making to switch from shorts mode to winter mode and sometimes I don't remember to go through that process until it's really cold outside. And it's not often *that* cold outside that I'm really uncomfortable enough to remember it the next morning.

 

[The Ugly One]

extra question: why do you guys wear shorts outside in the middle of winter?

We're less sensitive to cold than you in general and our legs in particular are far less sensitive than yours. Just doesn't feel all that coldness so hey, shorts time.

 

[Troon Petty and the 41ers]

I have a question: would you rather be extremely handsome but 5'2 or 6'2 but ugly as shit? And no, there's no in between, this is a hypothetical situation.

As a vertically privileged man, if I have to choose I'd stay over 6'. You can always be stylish, well-read and fit no matter how tall or short you are. The guys I know with the most obvious height complexes are all only slightly below average--like 5'6"-5'8" range. Seems like if you're sub-5'5", you tend to make peace with it.

I have a whole theory about why conspicuously tall guys seem to be overrepresented in the MtF population. I think it's got to do with how the importance of height is so exaggerated in incel type communities. So severely undersocialized men assume that being 6'4" is basically the male equivalent of having big boobs naturally without being fat ...
which it kind of is, except women don't initiate as much as men and if you don't get out much you're likely to miss those signs from someone who might be into you. So they think it's all wrong and in their despair over tfw no gf, they decide to become the girlfriend. I dunno, I could be pulling shit out of my ass and there could be a very well researched post in Stinkditch elaborating on it.

extra question: why do you guys wear shorts outside in the middle of winter?

Men retain heat better or something, and if you're coming from the gym your body temp is going to be elevated anyway.

Alternative answers: apathy, depression.

 

[Squanto Airi]

Question for the boys:

When I used to go to the gym, they had it set up so that the people working out could observe the ball courts and this big empty weight room. Regularly I would witness guys just... screaming while they were there. Working out and screaming as if they had gotten into lathe accidents or something similarly bad. Is there a guy-specific reason for this or were the guys in my old gym just maniacs?

Lifting heavy things unlock something primal in men, thus they let out the primal rage.

extra question: why do you guys wear shorts outside in the middle of winter?

I don’t normally, but if the winter is mild, it'd make sense to.

 

[Antony_the_spin_god21]

When I used to go to the gym, they had it set up so that the people working out could observe the ball courts and this big empty weight room. Regularly I would witness guys just... screaming while they were there. Working out and screaming as if they had gotten into lathe accidents or something similarly bad. Is there a guy-specific reason for this or were the guys in my old gym just maniacs?

Roids can make people go apeshit

extra question: why do you guys wear shorts outside in the middle of winter?

It feels nice when the cold wind hits your hairy leg

 

[Nameless One]

Incredible how this has gotten so twisted in such a short time. Feminism didn't devalue household work. Feminism pointed out that household work was devalued.

Cultural Marxism killed Feminism for a lot of people.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Cultural Marxism killed Feminism for a lot of people.

That's a conspiracy belief decision (and a dumb one imo), not a reality, though.

 

[Powerhouse of the Cell]

That's a conspiracy belief decision (and a dumb one imo), not a reality, though.

Then what do you think killed feminism?

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Then what do you think killed feminism?

It's not dead, though it is ridiculously maligned and misrepresented.

But why has it not simply settled down into normalcy but instead is trotted out as the boogey-man every other minute?

Internet misinterpretation and lack of depth, mainly. Also zero-sum thinking, black & white thinking/ literalism, outsized fear of competition (before even trying to compete, most frequently), misplaced and appropriated entitlement, and projection rather than actual reality.

I will also add intersectionality run amok a couple decades ago did it no favors, and the last decade of super-labeling of everything/ reduction of people and positions to memes and caricatures that internet culture understands only very literally has been a bane from another direction. It's one thing to say "consider this" or observe some casual commonalities or events; it's another to believe they are literally, intractably, and invariably true.

I would also say that the multi-modal (often fractured disagreement) aspects of feminism(s) have made common agreement loose, which has made the concept vulnerable to disparagement, and ultimately something pushed to being vulnerable to being cast as rejecting all conventionality, which, especially with the internet literalism vortex, has made it the scary thing that is alienating to some and frightening for others. The very nature of its multiplicity has made it susceptible to being both incorrectly parodied and also mischaracterized as something damaging to women and men both.

 

[Raven of the Burning God]

Then what do you think killed feminism?

Success.

A reasonable popular social movement will eventually substantially achieve its goals, at which point normal reasonable people pat each other on the back for a job well done. And then the shambling aimless corpse of the movement is slowly possessed by the remaining lunatic fringe elements who still believe the fight must go on. These new causes could never form the basis of a reasonable popular social movement, but they can coast by for years, or decades, on the cultural inertia and borrowed gravitas of the name of the usurped movement.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Do men see women as squeeze toys and think being squeezed hard makes the woman happy?

Men also meet women that think and say they don't do this hard enough. It's one of the tragedy's of the sexual revolution, because people bring completely different playbooks to men and women that go by completely different ones.

I remember a girl pressing my sternum really hard with her hand a couple of times, like this weird constant pressure. It was just strange. When I asked her about it, she realized her ex really liked that and she was doing it without thinking.

extra question: why do you guys wear shorts outside in the middle of winter?

Men have more muscle and less fat than women, which means we're better at regulating temperature. We suffer less from heat or cold as a result. It also makes us more smelly.

 

[Burning Bridge]

It's not dead, though it is ridiculously maligned and misrepresented.

So feminism is like Communism where any time it does something negative, that wasn't "real feminism"? The earlier waves disavowing later waves has a similar feeling to Boomers shitting on their descendants. At some point, someone is going to have to take responsibility for unintended consequences and it will not be the people that started the ball rolling. Those that deserve it most will suffer the least, and those that deserve it least will suffer the most.

zero-sum thinking,

This would be less of an issue if one of feminism's goals wasn't to systematically dismantle every male-only space but also ensure female-only spaces endured.

black & white thinking/ literalism

I think fewer things have done more damage to society as a whole than demonizing absolutes and turning everything murky shades of grey. Objectivism builds empires and relativism destroys them.

outsized fear of competition (before even trying to compete, most frequently),

Wait, you seriously think the playing field is level? That does explain a lot about you.

projection rather than actual reality.

lmao

 

[Powerhouse of the Cell]

So feminism is like Communism where any time it does something negative, that wasn't "real feminism"? The earlier waves disavowing later waves has a similar feeling to Boomers shitting on their descendants. At some point, someone is going to have to take responsibility for unintended consequences and it will not be the people that started the ball rolling. Those that deserve it most will suffer the least, and those that deserve it least will suffer the most.

I mean, it's actually the other way around.

When it comes to communism, it's usually later communists who often disavow past communists as the "bad ones' and claim the new ones are the good ones because they work.
They look at things like China and use it as an example of "communism" working despite the fact that China isn't really communist like it was.
It basically reformatted itself into an economic and government structure that works and functionally abandoned communism while still using it as some sort of aesthetic and paying lipservice to it.

It seems like this is happening to Feminism right now, this website and the feminists here are a good example of it. Who despite being feminist minded are not exactly pro-troonism like the first ones who will go on to claim that the feminists that support troonism are "not the real ones" meanwhile claiming that the feminists that don't are the "real ones"

This is fairly common, a shitlib movement that starts out retarded and destructive ends up changing and reformatting itself into something functional and not retarded.

This happened with Christianity, happened with communism and could happen to shitlibbery in general with feminism being amongst the first for this to happen with.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

So feminism is like Communism where any time it does something negative, that wasn't "real feminism"? The earlier waves disavowing later waves has a similar feeling to Boomers shitting on their descendants. At some point, someone is going to have to take responsibility for unintended consequences

Disagreement or different theories aren't "unintended consequences.". Color me shocked you conflate, thiugh not sure if disingenuous or just thick.

and it will not be the people that started the ball rolling. Those that deserve it most will suffer the least,

Then you shouldn't fret.

and those that deserve it least will suffer the most.

This would be less of an issue if one of feminism's goals wasn't to systematically dismantle every male-only space but also ensure female-only spaces endured.

It isn't.

I think fewer things have done more damage to society as a whole than demonizing absolutes and turning everything murky shades of grey. Objectivism builds empires and relativism destroys them.

If you don't understand the difference between literal ism and objective realities, I can't help you.

Wait, you seriously think the playing field is level? That does explain a lot about you.

No. Women are still discriminated against.

lmao

Keep laughing as you grow more and more bitter and fall further and further behind because you refuse to or cannot pivot.

pro-troonism like the first ones

I don't know, but I suspect Mary Wollstonecraft and predecessors were not pro-trans.

But you seem to be looking at shifts through the lens of the past few years. My lens on feminism and feminist concepts (which precede the 20th-century terminology and are most definitely not limited to views by self-identified feminists).