Kent Hovind v. The United States of America (2020)

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Updated Jul 27, 2020

@Null 's former neighbor, Kent Hovind, is a Young Earth Creationist who fell into the "sovereign citizen"/tax-protester movement and has been anti-government for longer than he has been preaching. He is now suing the United States of America and others.

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Background
"Dr." Kent Hovind (debate over whether or not he is an actual "Dr" comes from the fact his university accepted this PhD thesis) admitted in recorded videos that he himself produced that he avoided paying income tax for 28 years and committed the crime of structuring (withdrawing money from a bank in amounts meant to avoid the notice of the U.S. Federal Government). Kent and his wife were arrested, charged, and sentenced to fines and prison time (her 1 year, him 10). The trial was hilarious and even at the arraignment the magistrate had to tell Kent he was being deliberately stupid (No primary source). Kent was released in 2015 and appears to have not changed at all. His basic defense in the case (which his lawyer failed to represent) was that he was not required to pay any income tax (either because the "owner" of his work was not "of this world" [he even had his business licenses issues to the "Kingdom of Heaven"], or because he was not a "citizen" of the "United States of America").

Clipped section of Judge Rodgers' order where she reminds everyone Kent's business licenses were issues to the "Kingdom of Heaven":
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Some of the following clips may seem old (because they are), but Kent still very much believes all of this. He has been told to not talk about it by his right hand man Ernie Land (A.K.A. Doc Fog):

Archive of a video that Kent himself produced showing Kent admitting to evading taxes (I've saved the full clip, but it was too long to add to OP. Kept getting errors):



















Archive of Kent rambling about why he thinks he isn't a citizen of the US (Again, I have full backup. Couldn't upload full vid):



















Archive of Kent Hovind's completely asinine calls from prison that he *knew* were recorded. Details include him telling him wife he probably will not change after he gets out, telling his son to hide assets, telling his son to hold onto money (presumably, to avoid confiscation), and saying he will not pay the desired taxes until he his "shown the code":



















I started this as an LLP thread, but some interest was shown in Kent's past. Years ago, I lived in Pensacola, FL (where this guy started his ministry), so I've been following him for awhile.

Answers to some questions:
  • How did this guy go through University if he's this weird? Patriot "University" is a non-accredited uni. Please take the time to read his "thesis" I linked above. No respectable doctorate or PhD grad would consider it an actual thesis. It literally includes a poem that he thought of while writing as a stream of consciousness.
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  • What was his major? A PhD in Education is what he claims to have.
  • Has he been diagnosed with anything? If so, was he on medication? If he was, that might (partially) explain why prison had such a detrimental effect on his mental health. They're not known to be good when it comes to providing medication for inmates unless they're about to die. Kent does not believe in modern medicine and, in fact, was chastised by his congregation when he went to the hospital for Lyme Disease. Both he and his son have been reprimanded by the government for selling vitamins as "anti-cancer" drugs.
  • How many times has he been to prison? Only once, as far as I know, but he has been in legal trouble his entire life, mainly due to arguing with IRS agent Scott Schneider.
  • Has he only been imprisoned for tax evasion? Tax Evasion and "structuring," which isn't technically tax evasion. It's meant to avoid detection by the IRS.


Present Day
Kent got out of prison to find his that his wife wanted a divorce (a HUUUUUGE no-no in his sect of Christianity) and his son (who had previously sold the property to himself to avoid it being confiscated by the government) evicted Kent from his "own" home. He remarried an anti-vaxxer named Mary Tocco, who left only a few months later due to credible threats that someone was going to kill her and Kent and because she felt disrespected by Kent and the board of DAL.

So, he got married again (a definite no-no). Somewhere between his second and third marriage, there was a splintering in Kent's congregation, which resulted in one Theo Valentine from leaving the compound.

Theo Valentine is a former employee/contractor of Kent who has Judas-ed him, and now almost exclusively makes Anti-Kent content.
Theo's YouTube channel

Some of the greatest hits (All have been archived but were too long for OP. Since the new lawsuit, Hovind seems to be flagging and deleting his own vids more, including some of his hilarious comments on what he will do with the money when he wins. I'll find a place to host them and add my own links):
As of today, Theo has claimed or platformed someone who claims that Kent is a pedophile, friends with pedophiles (this is provably true, though), a liar, a fraud, trying to force others to build his retirement home for free, a devil worshiper, and currently doing the exact same things that got him in trouble last time.



Kent Hovind versus The World
Kent Hovind and his "lawyer" (who is not a lawyer) are suing the U.S. of A. (obvious), Margaret Catherine Rodgers (The judge on Kent's case that Hovind claims said his crimes were "worse than rape"), The estate of John David Roy Atchison (Prosecutor of Kent's case), Michelle Heldmyer (Prosecutor of Kent's Case), Scott Schneider (An IRS agent that Kent claims has been harassing him for years), and Alan Stuart Richey (Kent's attorney that lost him the case -- though it seemed unwinnable anyway).

Everyone being sued except Kent's attorney, Richey, are all being sued for pretty much the same stuff -- Kent thinks the United States is forcing him to
work the job of "tax collector" for the Federal Government and that there was a conspiracy to take down his YEC operation of which the sued parties were complicit. He is just suing his attorney because he is incompetent.

Surprisingly, he is not suing Robert Baty (a man who writes blog posts as though he is schizophrenic and that Kent claims has been called "out of retirement" from his job of IRS to harass Kent). It's surprising because Kent has acknowledged this person and there is actual evidence he wants to harass Kent such as the name of his website -- kehvrlb.com or Kent E. Hovind versus Robert L. Baty. Baty is also frantically documenting this case.

Here are some clips from the initial complaint that are probably a good sign of how well this is going to go....

Evidence they are taking the "sovereign citizen" approach to the lawsuit (if there is any evidence of this tactic ever working before, please let me know. I could not find any):
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Detailing which of God's laws were broken by the defendant (this is in an Addendum, which I guess is better than the main part of the document, but the "Thou shalt not kill" bit is still gold):
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Links
Robert Baty (Insane Kent Documentarian): http://kehvrlb.com/
Peter Reilly (Sane Kent Documentarian): https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/#134d231b6271 (If you just search for "Peter Reilly Hovind" his articles about Hovind come up, but he writes a lot about other things)
Theo Valentine (Former friend turned enemy of Kent): liesofthedevil.com

Kent's social media:
Youtube
Twitter (Seemingly abandoned)
Facebook
Personal Site (drdino.com and 2peter3.com both link to same site)

Discord server (thank ou @Arm Pit Cream for this. I didn't know it existed):
https://discord.com/invite/pXt67uy



Updates On Hovind v. The United States of America
May 22, 2020:

Complaint was filed - (Download Link)

Jun 4, 2020:
It is pointed out that service was carried out incorrectly because Plaintiffs are coming "pro se" and not "in forma pauperis" (the argument is basically that Kent and his buddy have to serve the Defendants on their own) - (Download Link)

Jun 15, 2020:
Amended complaint - (Download Link)

Jul 14, 2020:
Amended Amended complaint (nothing exciting -- literally updated to just include extra pages) - (Download Link)

Jul 23, 2020;
Another order (saying that the complaint requires further amending) - (Download Link)

What's interesting in this order:
  • Court has said Hovind has continuously submitted paperwork over the page limit without proper authorization (his complaint was 50 some odd pages, and 25 pages is the limit)
  • Court has warned Hovind that his complaint has at least three potential grounds for dismissal and has recommended Hovind address these points before filing another amended complaint. Those points are:
    • The Federal attorneys and Judge he is suing are protected under judicial immunity
    • Hovind is doing things in the wrong order. His lawsuit can be dismissed if filed before his sentence has been invalidated, which it has not been
    • Hovind is suing 10 years after the damages were brought to him, but the statute of limitation on these things in Florida is only 4 years ("Florida’s four-year statute of limitations applies to such claims of deprivation of rights under 42 U.S.C. §§ 1983and 1985" - Chappell v. Rich, 340 F.3d 1279, 1283 (11th Cir. 2003))
Let this day (Jul 27, 2020) be marked as the day I realized this court case is just going to be boring as hell. Prediction is, obviously, Hovind will file the amended complaint and his case will be thrown out anyway. Th statue of limitations argument is the most debilitating.

Jul 25, 2020:
Kent claims and/or implies several felonies were committed by defendants. He also accuses a Federal Judge of obstruction of justice and states he will call witnesses to ask if they were "told" by anyone to commit several felonies:
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
This needs work. It has potential, don't get me wrong, but I need you to do some things for me.
  • Archive the YT videos you have linked. You can do so by downloading them & then directly uploading it into the OP
  • If there are links that can't be archived via Archive Today (which tends to be an issue with certain government links) take a screenshot & include the URL
  • Does this guy not have social media? Or any news appearances? People like him tend to like being in front of the camera.
  • Could you include a picture of his face in the OP? It's a nice touch to add
  • There's some funny here but I'd like a little more if possible.

I'll keep an eye on edits & give feedback as you progress.

Good luck!


Great work! Thanks for all the updates!
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
Florida man strikes again, currently he's running another(of a few) creationist scheme under the name "Dr.Dino", the website linked on Kent's youtube has his face all over it and he refers to it as his in his youtube video's descriptions.
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Here's an archive of the legal problems from his perspective

Archive of his blog:
His youtube channel:
Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/kenthovindofficial ( https://archive.md/yDosQ )
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/kenthovind ( https://archive.md/3Ehco )
Discord server:
Creationist today website:
https://creationtoday.org/ ( https://archive.md/4BmIq )
"Dr.Dino's" website:
https://drdino.com/ ( https://archive.md/qJjfh )
He also made these website defending himself:
http://www.kenthovindisinnocent.net ( https://archive.md/bfDlB )


Some guy went to meet him last year:

Earlier this year he debated some smug faggot called Professor Dave who debunks creationists
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
Hovind basically pulled an onision and tried to claim everything under the sun.
Even his own son has said 'worse than rape' was never said as backed up by the official transcript.
 
Kent Hovind... now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

Back where I was a mere Prince of the Small Pants, the religious private school I went to showed a bunch of his anti-evolution videos. I also remember he offered some kind of large cash prize for proof of evolution, which he obviously never paid because why would he? Now my memory is fuzzy, but having checked in on him once or twice since then... I actually don't think he's a grifter. He's nutty as a fruitcake, to be sure, but I do think he genuinely believes his own hype.

Which makes it even funnier.
 
This guy was a big feature in thunderf00t's Why Do People Laugh At Creationists series. Ranked right up there with Venomfangx and Banana Man.

God, I miss the days before everything was monetized to shit and we could just kick back and enjoy some autism.
 
Man, been awhile since I've seen ol' Kent. Like Large Pants we saw a lot of his videos in grade school, but beyond that
He's a family friend that would write us while in prison.
He's tolerable to hang around, though unfortunately he's been falling deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole, which is saying something because he's been screaming Deus-ex tier conspiracy theories for decades.
 
Kent kind of fell down the autism rabbit hole in prison: I think he's a White Nationalist of the dual-seedline-theory strain (TL;DR non-whites and Jews literally don't have souls because they are the children of Cain and will always do evil no matter what) and advocates for an absolutist Christian Theocracy to replace the Federal Government, as he believes democracy is contrary to "God's law". He picked up this sovcit stuff along with the WN tendencies from his cellmate, who, if I recall correctly, was an Aryan Brotherhood member.
He's also considered to be pants-on-head retarded even by other YECs, who've criticized his personal brand of YEC for being both completely contradictory to basic physical laws that almost no other YECs quibble about (we're talking "Newton's Laws of Motion are a kike trick" here) and, more importantly for them, biblically erroneous.
He also thinks Beowulf is a historic text.
 
This guy was a big feature in thunderf00t's Why Do People Laugh At Creationists series. Ranked right up there with Venomfangx and Banana Man.

God, I miss the days before everything was monetized to shit and we could just kick back and enjoy some autism.
Ahh I remember this guy from Logicked's vids. What does he hope to accomplish with this? What an idiot.
This type of oldfag whining is starting to get really fucking repetitive.
And I don't know what mindset someone like you has to out themselves as euphoric and pedantic fedora tippers.
>implying Deus Ex got anything wrong
Yes. It's a fucking videogame.
 
Kent kind of fell down the autism rabbit hole in prison: I think he's a White Nationalist of the dual-seedline-theory strain (TL;DR non-whites and Jews literally don't have souls because they are the children of Cain and will always do evil no matter what) and advocates for an absolutist Christian Theocracy to replace the Federal Government, as he believes democracy is contrary to "God's law". He picked up this sovcit stuff along with the WN tendencies from his cellmate, who, if I recall correctly, was an Aryan Brotherhood member.
He's also considered to be pants-on-head retarded even by other YECs, who've criticized his personal brand of YEC for being both completely contradictory to basic physical laws that almost no other YECs quibble about (we're talking "Newton's Laws of Motion are a kike trick" here) and, more importantly for them, biblically erroneous.
He also thinks Beowulf is a historic text.
Is it possible to be too based? In this man's case, perhaps the answer is yes.
 
This guy was a big feature in thunderf00t's Why Do People Laugh At Creationists series. Ranked right up there with Venomfangx and Banana Man.

God, I miss the days before everything was monetized to shit and we could just kick back and enjoy some autism.
Its kinda interesting to see how the OG creatards have fared these past 8 or so years since they definitively dropped out the internet spotlight and lost any pretence of real world clout they accrued during the bush era.

A quick search of venomfangx/ray comfort/nephilimfree reveal that to a greater or lesser extent, all these specimens are still pushing their autism online and IRL, without any real change or modification to the dogma. The world has moved on, their old enemies have found bigger fights to flail in, a whole new paradigm has replaced the old "libertarian left vs fundie right" culture war....and yet they still sit on youtube and repeat the same talking points that have been ripped apart by everyone and their dog for literal decades now.

One might say this is a simple logical consequence of a genuine religious fanaticism, but I strongly disagree. The shit many if not most of these speds were exposed for, ranging from defrauding childrens hospitals to sexually harassing teenage girls to a whole catalogue of bad faith and ultra cynical attempts to profit off tragedies and to silence opponents is just straight up impossible to square with any sane and sincere idealism, and points far more to them being either pathological grifters or straight up schizo tier tards who welded their mental illness to "the cause" and thus are unable to ever drop it and move on to a new con.

I wonder whether this is the future we will see for the more rancid examples of wokesped in the coming decade?
 
I clicked on the Facebook link provided by @Arm Pit Cream & a fucking 7-year-old drowned at his park apparently??? What the FUCK is going on here???
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It made it to the front page of the local paper.
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Archive

Since the article is locked behind a paywall, you can read about the incident from here and here

This guy was a big feature in thunderf00t's Why Do People Laugh At Creationists series. Ranked right up there with Venomfangx and Banana Man.

God, I miss the days before everything was monetized to shit and we could just kick back and enjoy some autism.
Ahh I remember this guy from Logicked's vids. What does he hope to accomplish with this? What an idiot.

Would love links / archives of those videos. Highlight reels would work too since I'm guessing there are quite a few videos he's made / appeared in.

Man, been awhile since I've seen ol' Kent. Like Large Pants we saw a lot of his videos in grade school, but beyond that
He's a family friend that would write us while in prison.
He's tolerable to hang around, though unfortunately he's been falling deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole, which is saying something because he's been screaming Deus-ex tier conspiracy theories for decades.

So he's pretty much just been out-of-the box crazy then? Like there wasn't a period in his life where he was just a normal dude?
Honestly, I don't really know much about this guy. This is the first I'm hearing of him so I kinda feel out of the loop here. Probably going to be asking a lot of questions as they're not really answered in the OP.

  • How did this guy go through University if he's this weird?
  • What was his major?
  • Has he been diagnosed with anything? If so, was he on medication? If he was, that might (partially) explain why prison had such a detrimental effect on his mental health. They're not known to be good when it comes to providing medication for inmates unless they're about to die.
  • How many times has he been to prison?
  • Has he only been imprisoned for tax evasion?
  • Considering how long he hasn't been paying taxes, exactly how much does this dude owe by now?
Actually, scratch that last one. I saw this:
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Archive

@what is that I really hope you're planning on updating the OP. There's A LOT of content to work with here.
 
Is this a llp thread or a cow thread? I feel like some of the criticisms are valid for one but not the other.
We'll see how this plays out. Still too early to be assigning anything due to the OP not being fleshed out. Seems this guy has activity worth noting dating back years ago in a bunch of different sections.
 
Would love links / archives of those videos. Highlight reels would work too since I'm guessing there are quite a few videos he's made / appeared in.
Kent was the OG flaggot. Capture.PNG Never forget.
Only the classics...
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Ostatnio edytowane:
Can't find it now, but there was a hilarious phone call right after his arraignment where he told his son to hide all the financial documents. Straight up recorded call while in prision showed how stupid he was.

This dude tends to write up a lot of very in-depth Hovind stuff he has stuff about the drowning up:

Hovind comments about the child in his video here:
Commenters are calling him out on his shit.

Supposedly the parents are still promoting Hovind even though their son died there.
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
This needs work. It has potential, don't get me wrong, but I need you to do some things for me.
  • Archive the YT videos you have linked. You can do so by downloading them & then directly uploading it into the OP
  • If there are links that can't be archived via Archive Today (which tends to be an issue with certain government links) take a screenshot & include the URL
  • Does this guy not have social media? Or any news appearances? People like him tend to like being in front of the camera.
  • Could you include a picture of his face in the OP? It's a nice touch to add
  • There's some funny here but I'd like a little more if possible.

I'll keep an eye on edits & give feedback as you progress.

Good luck!
thank you. i added some content, but i will take the proper archival steps today/tonight. Sorry for the messiness. this was my first.

Can't find it now, but there was a hilarious phone call right after his arraignment where he told his son to hide all the financial documents. Straight up recorded call while in prision showed how stupid he was.

This dude tends to write up a lot of very in-depth Hovind stuff he has stuff about the drowning up:

Hovind comments about the child in his video here:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WKCJ5vbpJbkCommenters are calling him out on his shit.

Supposedly the parents are still promoting Hovind even though their son died there.
lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBOfqyenPDc (i'll archive this one too!)
 
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