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In your opinion do the Fox shows actually offer reasoned analysis and commentary, or are they simply the Orange Man Good counterpart to the other networks' Orange Man Bad?
Fox is way more reasoned and balanced. Here's the difference between Fox and the leftist broadcast/print media.

Fox's most important viewer, POTUS himself, rips the network on Twitter and they stay the course.
Nate Silver Pewter of all people complains on Twitter that a NYT headline is too deferential to Trump and they trip all over themselves to change it.
 
I love how people were quick to shift responsibility to Obama when they found out he was involved in those conditions, but when you point out that Trump could address those conditions, the response typically is: "No! We NEED them to stay like that! They're illegals REEEEE". Espeically when Trump has repealed a few Obama-era regulations.

Are you fine with the conditions or not? You can't just change gears like that.
He asked why those conditions were the way that they were, personally i dont give a shit if they keep paco and his 10 children on a cage in the middle of the desert, but i wouldnt complain if trump made the conditions a bit better for the sole reason to spit on obama
 
I love when high schoolers pretend they know shit about politics.
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I love when high schoolers pretend they know shit about politics.
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I don't see what's wrong here.

Lefty moralists that go around calling themselves "Woke" are absolutely insufferable.

Not ALL Trump voters are racists; calm down kid. Some are, but not every one of them.

I'm a liberal kid from Washington DC, and even I can admit that.
 
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Kinda says a lot about CNN when their highest rated prime time show is beaten out by a 6 am show on Fox.
Or that Laura Ingraham has the combined viewership of CNN's top 2 shows put together and doubled, plus another 400,000 people on top of it. I feel like FOX News could get 1 million people with almost anything they want as a morning or prime time show, their least watched show on that list is top 25 and doing better than anything on CNN. CNN has fallen off a cliff.
 
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What's actually the most interesting about it is that the FOX shows aren't being dominated by boomers or the elderly, FOX is dominating in the prime demographic (25-54). Most of FOX's viewership is actually fairly young, where-as MSNBC and CNN are the ones predominantly being watched by much older or much younger (Likely college-age or below) viewers.
 
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What's actually the most interesting about it is that the FOX shows aren't being dominated by boomers or the elderly, FOX is dominating in the prime demographic (25-54). Most of FOX's viewership is actually fairly young, where-as MSNBC and CNN are the ones predominantly being watched by much older or much younger (Likely college-age or below) viewers.
I thought most of their audience were people in airports and restaurants.
 
I specified why are they in the CONDITIONS they are in? If Obama or somebody in his administration locked them in cages, that's fucked up. Depriving prisoners of hygiene or acceptable housing is messed up. Now that is established, if Trump wanted to repeal every Obama-era regulation, why not start by improving those conditions to make them acceptable for short stays?
Are you forgetting that the Democratic congress wouldn't fund improved conditions (it happened less than two lunar cycles ago YMR)? Are you also forgetting that a company which contracted with the US governemnt to provide beds to the detainees was smeared in the media, accused of supporting concentration camps, picketed, and defamed by a member of congress (AOC)?

In what way could he improve their conditions when the funding to improve those conditions is dependent on a Democrat infrastructure which refuses the funds to improve things, a Democrat public which threatens violence, boycotts, and smears if a company actually provides those improvements?
 
Even the shitlibs at my work were talking about how they are sick of CNN trying to pitch opinion as fact,and offer their take on everything.
 
Are you forgetting that the Democratic congress wouldn't fund improved conditions (it happened less than two lunar cycles ago YMR)? Are you also forgetting that a company which contracted with the US governemnt to provide beds to the detainees was smeared in the media, accused of supporting concentration camps, picketed, and defamed by a member of congress (AOC)?

In what way could he improve their conditions when the funding to improve those conditions is dependent on a Democrat infrastructure which refuses the funds to improve things, a Democrat public which threatens violence, boycotts, and smears if a company actually provides those improvements?
like I said. Offer them gib me thats if they stay home in exchange they let American military and law enforcement be stationed in their neighborhood. This would allow America to expand its territory and reverse the invasion
 
Are you forgetting that the Democratic congress wouldn't fund improved conditions (it happened less than two lunar cycles ago YMR)? Are you also forgetting that a company which contracted with the US governemnt to provide beds to the detainees was smeared in the media, accused of supporting concentration camps, picketed, and defamed by a member of congress (AOC)?

In what way could he improve their conditions when the funding to improve those conditions is dependent on a Democrat infrastructure which refuses the funds to improve things, a Democrat public which threatens violence, boycotts, and smears if a company actually provides those improvements?
I'm not particularly interested in blaming Trump for this situation. I want the situation itself fixed. Anyone focusing on blame over solutions is using those people as leverage. It's disgusting.

I also think it's disgusting to cheer for those conditions, or to claim that the imprisoned shouldn't get soap. That's using those people in a different way, but not a better one.

But just blaming Trump for it? Nothing is ever, ever that simple.
 
And to think CNN is getting hit harder than MSNBC. They're probably quoting "The Centre cannot hold..." in their offices these days.

It's more they tried to undercut MSNBC by going super-super woke and steal the anti-Trump viewing audience only to find that all they got were casuals who fell for the "CNN is the only truly "balanced" news network" meme and left them high and dry when Mueller turned out to be a huge fucking lie and they realized CNN was bullshitting everything they were screeching in relations to Russiagate.

MSNBC has the woke audience already sewn up and was able to survive Russiagate exploding in their faces because their core audience are the types who will go to their graves thinking Russiagate was real and Trump schemed and blackmailed Mueller into refusing to give them what they wanted (IE explicitly calling Trump a traitor who needs to be impeached and then executed for said "treason"). The type of people who will watch MSNBC and treat it as the gospel and who still pine for the days of Olberman/Maddow on in prime time and who behave the same way the worst Fox News zombies behave.

CNN just got the casuals and moderates/swing voters who let themselves get social shamed/bullied into buying into the Russiagate lies. And once Russiagate was exposed as lies, they dropped CNN like an out of style dress.
 
You know maybe if Trump rampaged through lands, raped and pillaged as he went and forced all who lived in these conquered lands forced subjugation, worship, and tribute to him maybe the left would start liking Trump.

I mean Mohammad did the same thing and the left just adores Muslims and their culture.
 
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