Autistic Culture Movement / Neurodiversity

[NerdShamer]

Megathread about demand avoidance. Turns out that people like the OP constantly needs to weight the values on whether or not to fulfill the demands of everyday life. And actually going through with it instead of playing a certain set of mind games allegedly fries their nervous system. Now with this mindset being drilled into your heads (again), enjoy the irony of this leftist blindly posting his "We must create our own society!" posters in a subreddit that's dedicated for this state of mind

Your favorite meme politician was either "neurodiverse" or outright autistic. No, just being eccentric is no longer an acceptable excuse

An call for solidarity instead of some really gay infighting

TL;DR essay of how autists can be incredibly sensitive to societal unrest and are best suited for being the superior wardens of humanity against the evil hypercapitalist globohomo plot to ruin the Earth. But fortunately, they're still vulnerable to being gaslit by the mental healthcare industry into believing that all of this shit is genuinely not as big of an deal that they're making it out to be

 

[Foundinglaunderer]

You know what's funny? That there's not an large amount of the severely disabled ones on the web that can fight this shit. Granted, an part of it is actually caused by an communication barrier along with bit of emotional instability. Seriously, this is almost as bad as the Rain Man brand of autism, which another group of activists have actually erased from public memory because it wasn't an authentic representation of autism.

The "Autistic community" is the biggest retard larp by troons , twitter faggots and tiktok and 4cuck incels since pepe by Sargoy. their is no community it's just a bunch of regular people who fucked up any actual realistic representation for people who wanted to live normal lives and not be special snowflakes and where disabled

 

[NerdShamer]

The "Autistic community" is the biggest retard larp by troons , twitter faggots and tiktok and 4cuck incels since pepe by Sargoy. their is no community it's just a bunch of regular people who fucked up any actual realistic representation for people who wanted to live normal lives and not be special snowflakes and where disabled

To be fair, ASD is over-diagnosed. Partly due to the cultural absence of the concept of self-discipline. Aside from the actual tards, it's mainly just some variation of being intelligent enough to maintain an argument on reddit whilst simultaneously being too disabled to do, much of anything, really.

 

[Foundinglaunderer]

To be fair, ASD is over-diagnosed. Partly due to the culture absence of the concept of self-discipline. Aside from the actual tards, it's mainly just some variation of being intelligent enough to maintain an argument on reddit whilst simultaneously being too disabled to do, much of anything, really.

Yeah I agree it is 100% over-diagnosed and this is genuinely due to lack of self-discipline in our society

 

[Zemblan Physics]

Yeah I agree it is 100% over-diagnosed and this is genuinely due to lack of self-discipline in our society

Agree it’s over-diagnosed, but what’s self discipline got to do with it? Autism in itself is rarely difficult to diagnose unless you’re an inept clinician or one with financial incentives to diagnose it & no moral compass. Self-diagnosis doesn’t count, but I guess there are a bunch of NEETs there though, if you’re referring to them.

“Wait and see” used to be a thing in diagnosing the young on the less severe end of the spectrum. Not so much anymore, so maybe reinforcing to kids that their social difficulties are written in stone due to the tism could explain your comment too. But even steel-manning what you said I don’t really get it.

 

[NerdShamer]

but what’s self discipline got to do with it?

Starting with the more severe side of the spectrum, we have an actual retard who can't stop flirting with minors and refuses to consider the deep shit that she's getting into. And for those who are slightly better off, they tend to live in their own filth or just being an walking neckbeard meme instead of actually doing much of anything about acting slightly less slovenly.

Look, I know that this is technically an disability. But after a specific point, it goes from having an involuntary reaction from doing the Big Bad Scary Thing to just fucking off to their obsessions instead periodically of spending five to ten minutes on a set of chores. Or just being talented enough to land a white collar job and still be in the dark about body language

Seriously, a lot of shit that I pulled from Reddit can be answered by a quick web search...And by building up your mental resilience for doing shit that you're irrationally avoiding.

 

[AnOminous]

Autists are a bunch of bullshit and we should get rid of them.

 

[NerdShamer]

Autists are a bunch of bullshit and we should get rid of them.

Every once a while there's an turbosperg who actually gets shit done. Of course, they usually don't come out the womb as some type of STEM savant, iirc.

But even then, it's pretty much an net loss except for the rare occasion where one of them has the same drive as Greta Thurmberg and are actually useful

 

[The_Cowcel]

Every once a while there's an turbosperg who actually gets shit done. Of course, they usually don't come out the womb as some type of STEM savant, iirc.

But even then, it's pretty much an net loss except for the rare occasion where one of them has the same drive as Greta Thurmberg and are actually useful

I just don't see much point in constantly going through the motions of all the bullshit I'm told to when it does nothing to meaningfully change my position in life. It doesn't matter if I waste my life and my health working myself to death just so I can waste money going out doing shit I have little to no interest in doing just so I can be near women who want nothing to do with me and are more likely to conspire to get me removed than they are to have sex with me, either way I'm stuck in the same position in life as if I just tried to leech off of whoever I can and spend my time online where I'm not forced to throw away money constantly.

If working and going out just lead to me wasting my life being miserable then that just seems like a slow drawn out suicide. I'm not getting anything for my efforts so why bother?

 

[NerdShamer]

, either way I'm stuck in the same position in life as if I just tried to leech off of whoever I can and spend my time online where I'm not forced to throw away money constantly.

The one thing about constantly leeching off of someone else instead of the federal government's tits is that you're just riding out the generosity of your friend group. And when it runs out, you genuinely will be fucked if you aren't ready for it. In fact, an ex-friend of an friend did the "failure to launch" routine with a set of "anxiety attacks" whenever he was asked to do something small stuff around the place. Last I heard, he got real close to the point where people are giving up on making him help himself.

However, living off the generosity of the government isn't without it's own set of problems. But that's mainly based off of an series of actions that might not be an immediate concern... Until some politician suddenly decides that it's time to trim the fat.

I just don't see much point in constantly going through the motions of all the bullshit I'm told to when it does nothing to meaningfully change my position in life.

Well, it kind of depends. Since jobs stopped being "meaningful" and rewarding, a few decades ago.

It doesn't matter if I waste my life and my health working myself to death

Yes, life is an rat race unless you're living right in the middle of Bumfuck, Alaska. And it always has been an rat race for most of recorded history.

just so I can waste money going out doing shit I have little to no interest in doing

But this shit, right here. Is your fault.

so I can be near women who want nothing to do with me and are more likely to conspire to get me removed than they are to have sex with me,

And it is also your fault for hanging out with the wrong crowd.

If working and going out just lead to me wasting my life being miserable then that just seems like a slow drawn out suicide. I'm not getting anything for my efforts so why bother?

But working is just the catchall means for surviving. Most of the time, you aren't going to make a difference, in the grand scheme of things. Sure certain careers are more influential (and stressful) than others. But for most people, what comes after you punch out is entirely up to you and it's an answer that you'd have to find on your own

we have an actual retard who can't stop flirting with minors and refuses to consider the deep shit that she's getting into

Well, that certainly turned radioactive, didn't it?

 

[The_Cowcel]

The one thing about constantly leeching off of someone else instead of the federal government's tits is that you're just riding out the generosity of your friend group. And when it runs out, you genuinely will be fucked if you aren't ready for it. In fact, an ex-friend of an friend did the "failure to launch" routine with a set of "anxiety attacks" whenever he was asked to do something small stuff around the place. Last I heard, he got real close to the point where people are giving up on making him help himself.

However, living off the generosity of the government isn't without it's own set of problems. But that's mainly based off of an series of actions that might not be an immediate concern... Until some politician suddenly decides that it's time to trim the fat.

I'm aware that my family will eventually kick me out or die and the the tugboat funds might get cut but I figure I might as well try to make use of my youth by trying to get a personal life before I'm forced to work myself to death.

Well, it kind of depends. Since jobs stopped being "meaningful" and rewarding, a few decades ago.

I wasn't even talking about in relation to work, I was mostly referring to my personal life. Everyone tells me to go out and do things but all it ever leads to is wasted time and money. It just feels like I'm going through the motions of having a life.

Yes, life is an rat race unless you're living right in the middle of Bumfuck, Alaska. And it always has been an rat race for most of recorded history

At least if I could get a life and start a family there would be something to work for as opposed to just working to survive based on the empty promise that if I just waste enough time and money somehow I will get a life of my own.

But this shit, right here. Is your fault.

What else would I do? Everyone tells me to go out and do things instead of sitting online complaining about how desperate I am for a woman.

And it is also your fault for hanging out with the wrong crowd.

That's basically every crowd in all honesty. The only positive interactions I've had seem to mostly stem from people pitying me.

But working is just the catchall means for surviving. Most of the time, you aren't going to make a difference, in the grand scheme of things. Sure certain careers are more influential (and stressful) than others. But for most people, what comes after you punch out is entirely up to you and it's an answer that you'd have to find on your own

The problem is that if I don't really have anything, my social circle is nonexistent, I don't have any strong interests, I can't get a woman, If I was working I'd just spend my off time dreading the next day of work because I have nothing to occupy myself with that would be enough keep my mind off of work. I don't just want to survive, I want to live. Even my dad criticizes me for not having a life whenever I complain about being alone.

 

[jray4559]

The problem is that if I don't really have anything, my social circle is nonexistent, I don't have any strong interests, I can't get a woman, If I was working I'd just spend my off time dreading the next day of work because I have nothing to occupy myself with that would be enough keep my mind off of work. I don't just want to survive, I want to live. Even my dad criticizes me for not having a life whenever I complain about being alone.

Take it from someone who's in the exact same spot: no friends, no easy way to get enough money to truly live: the idea that there will be some sort of magic helicopter that comes in and gives you a comfortable, accepting path in society is fiction. In the real world, people who can't easily latch on to wherever the societal train goes are left behind to rot with, at most, pitying words. This isn't just applying to autism, either.

Old people who aren't hip with what modern adults find fun, and who don't have families to like them for some reason, are stuck in nursing homes and expected to socialize with the other similarly rejected old people, or nowadays AI, which is never close to as good as a real person.

Poor people are placed in homeless shelters that are obviously unsafe to live in, contain druggies and such, and they're expected to take it even though it's so obviously substandard and mentally stressful.

People with mental disabilites are put into group homes, which are completely removed from the complex, fufilling world of real life. But most of them at least get the advantage of being ignorant about how socially weird they truly are, you do not have that luxury.

And if you end up sorted into any of those boxes and don't play nice with it? There's always prison,

Whether it's fair or not, if you don't have anything interesting to give to people for interacting with you, all you will ever be is a burden, and people don't take on burdens. Why choose the jobless, poor, socially stunted, unattractive freak when they have hundreds of other much more adjusted and interesting humans to accept in their lives? I don't mean to personally attack you saying it that way but that's how society works. Transactional and brutal. It's how its always been and always will be.

There is no easy path out, and honestly, if you're physically and mentally able, the best thing you could do for yourself would be accepting this version of you, in this society, as an unfortunate dead end. Get yourself the most basic of survival knowledge, go completely off the grid, moving to, I don't know, Alaska or something and get saved from starvation by fellow men and women there. Live and learn their way of life.

I sound like a crazy lunatic typing that, and I probably am a crazy lunatic, but your mind is deep in bad habits and thinking patterns, whether you know it or not. A total kick-out is the way. You won't think about needing women when your mind is too busy outside, trying to survive. Two or three years of that, sectioned off from the world with only fellow off-the-grid people to be with, will completely remake your existence. Then odds are you could somehow get to the city and such if you really wanted to. It'll be an easier time reintegrating as a strong, rugged, mentally tough, down-to-earth guy (that can use his body) instead of a weak, scared, functionally useless guy, which is your current life (and if I'm being honest, mine as well).

That's my view on it, basically. Bleak. If reading all that screwed you up somehow, apologies.

 

[NerdShamer]

What else would I do? Everyone tells me to go out and do things instead of sitting online complaining about how desperate I am for a woman.

Again, find a hobby or something else that's emotionally fulfilling. Just going after women, especially if you aren't doing much of anything to set yourself apart or make you appear to be moderately successful isn't going to turn out well. Sure, exceptions exists. But those aren't exactly exempt from being an constant source of drama.

Although going off-grid only works if you can handle the prolonged periods of social isolation.

 

[Verdant]

I hate to gender-sperg but has anyone else no(oo)ticed how many of the flagrant autism self-identifiers now are actual, biological women? A lot of them are trannies as well but a quick look at r/evilautism shows a lot of what appears to be actual women and incredibly fem coded stuff that you don't usually see in mtf spaces. They also seem to be big fans of calling themselves 'AuDHD' and simmering in angst over how the conditions are still stereotypically associated with 7 year old boys and so on.

This is a pretty recent development, back when this thread was made the only people talking about 'autistic culture' were crazy male spergs like Autphag, but I remember watching the rise of the 'actually autistic' scene on Tumblr which I think has developed into this modern fem-autism culture.

Tbh I have a hard time with the concept of autistic women, or ADHD women. I imagine the vast majority of it is a social contagion thing.

 

[Albicilla]

Tbh I have a hard time with the concept of autistic women, or ADHD women. I imagine the vast majority of it is a social contagion thing.

They do exist, but they don't really come across the way these reddit and TikTok types do at all. It's probably social contagion paired with a lack of any sense of belonging or direction typical of today's world in general, especially if you're American just due to the culture overall not being very community-oriented. The other issue is that having some autistic traits isn't necessarily bad; it'd be nice if we could go back to someone being "a little autistic" without necessarily slapping them with a disordered label, because everyone has personality variations, and all psychiatric disorders are just extreme over-tuning, under-tuning, or both at the end of the day and there also exists being outside the average without impairment.

 

[Verdant]

They do exist, but they don't really come across the way these reddit and TikTok types do at all. It's probably social contagion paired with a lack of any sense of belonging or direction typical of today's world in general, especially if you're American just due to the culture overall not being very community-oriented. The other issue is that having some autistic traits isn't necessarily bad; it'd be nice if we could go back to someone being "a little autistic" without necessarily slapping them with a disordered label, because everyone has personality variations, and all psychiatric disorders are just extreme over-tuning, under-tuning, or both at the end of the day and there also exists being outside the average without impairment.

Identity obsession sucks because it creates these nasty circlejerks of people who all act the same obnoxious way as an ingroup signifier, giving the entire concept of being part of that community a bad name and making those who don't fit the mold culturally homeless. It's been a big problem with the gay community for a long time and it's starting to hit autism now too.

 

[The_Cowcel]

Take it from someone who's in the exact same spot: no friends, no easy way to get enough money to truly live: the idea that there will be some sort of magic helicopter that comes in and gives you a comfortable, accepting path in society is fiction. In the real world, people who can't easily latch on to wherever the societal train goes are left behind to rot with, at most, pitying words. This isn't just applying to autism, either.

Money isn't really holding me back from living, I live a comfortable life and want for nothing within reason. It's really just a lack of interest in things combined with a near inability to have positive social experiences while remotely sober.

Whether it's fair or not, if you don't have anything interesting to give to people for interacting with you, all you will ever be is a burden, and people don't take on burdens. Why choose the jobless, poor, socially stunted, unattractive freak when they have hundreds of other much more adjusted and interesting humans to accept in their lives? I don't mean to personally attack you saying it that way but that's how society works. Transactional and brutal. It's how its always been and always will be.

It's hard to be interesting when you're constantly thinking about how to not fuck up and seem awkward. I have basically no personality.

There is no easy path out, and honestly, if you're physically and mentally able, the best thing you could do for yourself would be accepting this version of you, in this society, as an unfortunate dead end. Get yourself the most basic of survival knowledge, go completely off the grid, moving to, I don't know, Alaska or something and get saved from starvation by fellow men and women there. Live and learn their way of life.

I don't see much difference between acceptance and suicide, one is just a longer path than the other. What's the point of anything as a genetic dead end? I'm just going to keep desperately trying to get a woman as long as I can, it's all I have.

Again, find a hobby or something else that's emotionally fulfilling. Just going after women, especially if you aren't doing much of anything to set yourself apart or make you appear to be moderately successful isn't going to turn out well. Sure, exceptions exists. But those aren't exactly exempt from being an constant source of drama.

I've tried, but nothing really fills that gap in my life, my hobbies feel more like things that I'm just doing to pass the time hoping I eventually manage to luck into a bit of success.
Sorry for the derailment.

I hate to gender-sperg but has anyone else no(oo)ticed how many of the flagrant autism self-identifiers now are actual, biological women? A lot of them are trannies as well but a quick look at r/evilautism shows a lot of what appears to be actual women and incredibly fem coded stuff that you don't usually see in mtf spaces. They also seem to be big fans of calling themselves 'AuDHD' and simmering in angst over how the conditions are still stereotypically associated with 7 year old boys and so on.

I've noticed that for a while and I get the feeling most of them are self diagnosing larpers looking for oppression badges to collect. With the exception of the truly nonfunctional tards most of them don't exhibit the typical behaviors I see in most male autists I've encountered. Male autists will sperg about their interests, female "autists" seem to sperg about their autism, their conditions, their gayness, and their politics, they generally just seem self obsessed and I can't tell if that's just because they are autists fixating on the most common female interest(themselves) or if they are especially attention seeking and self-obsessed.

Identity obsession sucks because it creates these nasty circlejerks of people who all act the same obnoxious way as an ingroup signifier, giving the entire concept of being part of that community a bad name and making those who don't fit the mold culturally homeless. It's been a big problem with the gay community for a long time and it's starting to hit autism now too.

At least gays created their own unique brand of obnoxious, Female autist claimants just act like every other sexually undesirable woman who has to resort to sites like reddit to get their validation. I also don't think there's necessarily as much purpose in a community for autism as there is for gays. Gays obviously want gay sex and by having a community of their own they can filter out men who don't want to have gay sex, Autists on the other hand typically want to either live a normal life or avoid reality entirely, neither of those are accomplished by speaking to people you having nothing in common with besides the autism. Other than that a group consisting entirely of and run by autists with nothing holding it together besides ununified autism sounds like it would be incredibly dysfunctional.

 

[NerdShamer]

What's the point of anything as a genetic dead end? I'm just going to keep desperately trying to get a woman as long as I can, it's all I have.

Look, there's a lot more to life than just fucking bitches to continue your bloodline. The rest of it is an philosophical answer that we can't answer for you

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Might not be the best thread for this, but I read this article for work, and found it exceptionally useful. If all clinicians applied this theoretical framework, over-diagnoses would plummet and an actual diagnosis would fucking mean something.

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Disclosure & PL: on the point of burnout from chasing fakers out of my consulting room with a pitchfork

There's a lot of people faking autism, especially the people on Youtube who make it. The autistic influences bitch, you don't have autism. Autism is a very unpleasant thing to have sometimes as someone who has it. These people think mental illness is this cutesy thing. It's really not. It's a very, very unpleasant thing to live with. And these people make me having to try and get accommodations for certain things very difficult, so I generally hope they all get set on fire.

There is no easy path out, and honestly, if you're physically and mentally able, the best thing you could do for yourself would be accepting this version of you, in this society, as an unfortunate dead end. Get yourself the most basic of survival knowledge, go completely off the grid, moving to, I don't know, Alaska or something and get saved from starvation by fellow men and women there. Live and learn their way of life.

Correct. People don't give a shit if you're a parasite, actually, as long as you're fun to be around. Hell, I knew a guy back when I was, uh. Younger man who basically was a massive parasite in his one friend, but he also was a very fun DM. Could cook very well. And also was generally a fun guy. That's all thing about homeless people. They're clearly just not very interesting. That's why the homeless. If you are interesting and fun to be around, you could be the literal embodiment. Of someone who's never had a job, but somehow you always have a place to sleep and food in your belly.

 

[NerdShamer]

Well, the autistics' commune grift is still attracting comments since the last time I posted it. Turns out that the fastest way to dismantle reactionary propaganda is to point out that OP is an failure for educating modern society to actually solve shit instead of running off to his magical self-sustaining island with the other autists (who've repeatedly said that they can't function under societal pressure)

Overwhelmed by someone else who's just expressing their own range of emotions. Turns out that it's an tard thing for demanding that person has to be there for them instead of letting people have their own moments.

Failing college over being unable to give a presentation or write a fucking paper. Turns out that using ChatGPT is an acceptable substitute.


When your sense of justice gives you an set of panic attacks because it's compelling you to just let someone else have their turn, but your PDA goes apeshit whenever you lose your autonomy.