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some activist actually made an fucking petition (yes, I know the site's rendering in the archive is fucked) for the state of New York to set aside a plot of land for autists to settle down in. And he's only received some mild pushback against it
With autists, some of them literally can't exist within modern society without being driven insane by the ambient noise and other stimuli of urbanization. Plus, there's the "ableism" that normies are using to indirectly genocide them, an lack of socialization (even from other autists), shitty mental healthcare, the constant persecution complex. But all of this and more will just magically disappear if there's an small commune that's out in the middle of nowhere and is populated entirely by autists. I shouldn't have to tell you just how horrifically retarded this idea is. Personally, I want to see it happen. Mostly because of the fact that it'll be memory-holed.
As with anyone else, it's basically just boils down to "modern society is too mean for my group, so we'll just make our own!". And for the most part, the newer set of establishments just tends to fall apart because they're just terminally online activists instead of people who had an set of practical skills.
Which reminds me, I found this amazing post in the r/evilautism community:
I love vegans generally, I would like to eventually go vegan as I recognise what damage the meat and dairy industry is doing to the planet. but currently im broke and constantly burnt out so I'm surviving mostly on cheap pre made food that's reduced in my local tesco because cooking feels so overwhelming most days
the limited vegan pre made food I see almost always has an ingredient in it that makes me gag if it so much as touches my tongue. onions and mushrooms are just so slimy, I accidentally bit into a cheese and onion sandwhich at a work thing and it put me off eating so bad that I could only get myself to eat chips for the rest of the meal. I cannot just get over my sensory issues, if I could I would've done so a decade ago as it would make my life infinitely easier. but there are still people acting like this is just something I need to overcome and not a legitimate limitation
even outside of that, I don't think a lot of vegans recognise how difficult completely changing your diet can be, especially for autistic people. so many of my safe foods that I've relied on when I can't bring myself to eat anything else have dairy/meat in them. I am slowly trying to find substitutes (seitan is fantastic) but this shit is hard and stressful when my brain really does not like change especially when it comes to food
(obvs disclaimer that this is about a specific smug judgmental type of vegan that have been flooding a shitpost sub I like and making me feel like shit over my burnout)
anyway rant over give me ur best vegan recipes that have <5 mins of prep time
The OOP has nothing but good intentions, he even mentioned that he understands it's harder for people with autism, and this hedonist calls him smug and judgmental.
The comments are amazing too. Half of them are fairly sensible, talking about how they actually struggle with medical issues like celiac and allergies, but the other half is full of that self righteous Tumblr speak that I hate. Everyone is a victim of a cruel world that can't understand their sheer inability to get used to things that they don't like. If they could get over themselves and their victimhood complex for just one second they would be a lot more happy, but unfortunately much of the discourse surrounding autism is about how special it is, so what reason do they have to give up what makes them so special? Not liking mushrooms is their cross to bear, god bless their tortured souls .
^ This one is my favorite. Calling being a picky eater "human suffering" and comparing it to the suffering of animals in the meat industry.
^ Op left a reply along these lines for several people, stating that they are too "burnt out" to cook anything that's faster than 5 minutes. We used to kill and eat mammoths, what happened to us?
^This one im torn on. If it really does get to the point that you're gagging if you eat a tomato, then I don't see much need for getting over it. But if that's the case for MOST food? Has anyone seen that documentary or tv show or whatever where a woman grew so averse to other foods that she only ate fries, and gagged when eating so much as a fry died a different color? That's a problem! And a fixable one!
I'll cap it off with the most sensible comment of the bunch.
It’s almost like when people think of an autistic person, they think of something different than what these people claim to have. Strange. I’m not sure how anyone can find these types and feel like getting rid of Asperger’s wasn’t a massive mistake. This has to be BPD, right? It’s like if a 300lbs woman took a donut out of the hands of a starving child and went on to talk about how everyone gets hungry, and all hunger is vaild and don’t let this pile of skin and bones erase my need to eat.
From what I've seen of "Love on the Spectrum," it just feels about as staged as they're accusing it of. Plus, it looks they've intentionally stacked the deck to avoid the sexual harassment accusations against the tards.
To be fair, there is an state of mind where you're so exhausted that you don't feel like doing much of anything. But autists will supposedly go insane or suicidal if they push themselves past this point, for some reason. Or that they'll eventually just "forget" how to do shit if they'll actually go through with it
If it really does get to the point that you're gagging if you eat a tomato, then I don't see much need for getting over it. But if that's the case for MOST food? Has anyone seen that documentary or tv show or whatever where a woman grew so averse to other foods that she only ate fries, and gagged when eating so much as a fry died a different color? That's a problem! And a fixable one!
It's kind of coming from two separate angles. It might be an psychological thing to just refuse to eat certain types food. However, just about everyone has this one random ingredient or two that genuinely scares the shit out of them to the point where they'll gag on it. But actually starving yourself because your favorite brand of chicken tendies was discontinued genuinely needs some professional intervention
You know what's funny? That there's not an large amount of the severely disabled ones on the web that can fight this shit. Granted, an part of it is actually caused by an communication barrier along with bit of emotional instability. Seriously, this is almost as bad as the Rain Man brand of autism, which another group of activists have actually erased from public memory because it wasn't an authentic representation of autism.
Another autistic kid was killed while on an outing with an caretaker and it might be either an actual murder or just an accident. It's all up in the air, at the moment, considering how the caretaker has only been arrested, at this point. Of course, the "innocent until proven guilty" routine does not applies to the genocide of the autistic race and will be met with the appropriate amount of roleplaying. And on a more entertaining point, the same set of activists are mildly upset that their latest attempt at propaganda was met with indifference and criticism. Must be fun life that you're living when someone just sharing their headcanon manages to be the highlight of your day
Another autistic kid was killed while on an outing with an caretaker and it might be either an actual murder or just an accident. It's all up in the air, at the moment, considering how the caretaker has only been arrested, at this point. Of course, the "innocent until proven guilty" routine does not applies to the genocide of the autistic race and will be met with the appropriate amount of roleplaying.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if autistics were more likely to be killed than non-autistics, since the entire deal is being unable to read social cues. It's just a given that people get along less well with people who have autism, whether they know it or not.
It's hard to explain all the nuances of human communication so I'll use a more simple hypothetical: imagine if you were a dog that is angry at an autistic dog. You bear your teeth and snarl. The dog shows no submission, it doesn't shrink down and put its tail between its legs, but it is scared. It just doesn't show it, and there's no way for you to know that this isn't simply an overconfident dog, so you attack it, believing it to be a threat.
That's just a given, and that's why people NEED to learn social skills. It will always be a grievance of mine that there are no easily accessible guides or textbooks on modern human social behavior and the basics of how to communicate properly with other humans. Even for people without autism, it would be good for all of us to be more aware of the nuances of our social language.
Well, there's supposed to be an entire field or two of science that's dedicated to this. It's just that it'll quickly become outdated within a decade or so; but even then, it's a bit of an variance on how things actually works. In fact, an autist actually wrote an survival guide for this and I found it to a bit stereotypical
This is interesting, but what I was thinking of was less along the lines of advice book, and more along the lines of an explanatory book. Something explaining why some social standards are the way they are. I used to be one of those types who thought that small talk was lame and superficial, and that in an ideal world we would all open up to each other right from the get-go. But I know that that's not true today. Talking about something like the weather is good for us because it's one of the easiest ways to find something in common (our shared experience in the same environment), and connect from that basis. But no one told me these things! Everyone's got to learn these things on their own. I don't blame autists for being the way they are, life is confusing and inevitably some of us are going to make the wrong guesses while we're growing up. But in the same way that you can't fix a car unless you know how it works, it seems silly to imagine that people out of the loop can become anything but Amelia Bedelia if they don't understand WHY certain behaviors apply to certain situations.
But maybe that's an unrealistic pipedream. I don't know. And it's not like people are eager to read what I'm imagining would basically be a chemistry textbook but for human behavior.
Oh, those aren't exactly common. Most of what I could find is catered to coomers and midwits. Since a lot of shit is aimed towards actual kids with the expectation that proper socialization would iron everything out. And when it doesn't, then there's always whatever the fuck this shit is.
Seriously, one of these was an channel that's specifically about constantly ignoring your woman would make her want to fuck you.
Quackery aside, there isn't really an concrete answer for everything and certain things have actually been lost to history, but people keep doing them. A lot of things can be incredibly subjective with their application.
The list goes on to an nearly infinite degree and it drives some people insane because they don't know exactly what is the singular thing that causes an different result, each time. Obviously (to normies, at least), it's the other person's state of mind or their relationship between anyone else who's involved, their motives. Buuuuuut...
This shit, right here. Stops them from considering the possibility that these connections in real time. Sure, you can train them to learn how it works, but you can occasionally see them pump the brakes on their thought process when they shift from burning down bridges to doing anything else. Or that they'll cut you off and continue their crusade to burn down that guy's house just for talking shit about his favorite hobby.
Simping for the hobo lifestyle. Mostly because one can freely fuck off and do whatever the hell they want instead of actually sitting down to deal with the usual set of responsibilities. I get that it's appealing to some. But it just feels hopelessly optimistic at an larger scale
After months of screeching about the autistic masterrace is destined to become "the Guiding Light of Humanity," our favorite activist has recently made an subreddit for whatever passes as "mutual aid" to an autist when comes to uniting against varying forms of harassment. There's no way in hell that this sub would devolve into fedposting.
But all of this and more will just magically disappear if there's an small commune that's out in the middle of nowhere and is populated entirely by autists.
god, I can't imagine anything more stressful and infuriating than living with only autistic people. It ALWAYS becomes this horrible maelstrom of contradicting needs and somehow the most normal person is always on the bottom of the totem pole.
You set down to eat dinner and of course you're free to make suggestions for future dinners, but any suggestion is side-eyed and scrutinized like you suggested everybody eat spicy dog shit (because your suggestion isn't something that's already been approved by literally everyone else before you even thought about it, so of course the default assumption is you're recommending LITERAL POISON!!) You're eating dinner and someone decides you're "chewing too loud," however the fuck that works, but you can't possibly fix that so you just have to sit knowing you made, and will continue to make, that guy uncomfortable like there's a goddamn Sims negative interaction marker above your heads.
Then your fork touches your plate, because you are using the fork to pick up food from the plate, and that makes someone ELSE freak the fuck out like you intentionally dragged the fork on the plate to make a loud-ass screeching noise, when you didn't even do it on purpose and it wasn't even loud enough for any normal human being to notice, BUT OF COURSE THEY FUCKING NOTICED IT, because they're autistic and little sounds set them off! So you're just supposed to figure out how to keep a fork from touching a plate! While using a fork and plate!!!!
After dinner you all go to the shared living space, and all the lights are so dim you have constant eye strain unless you're staring into your glowing phone screen. You COULD turn the light on, except everyone else agrees it's too bright, so it's better to sit in the dark AND STARE INTO YOUR BRIGHTLY GLOWING PHONE SCREENS INSTEAD. They could just, I don't know, buy a lower watt or warmer color lightbulb, get a dimmer switch, put a diffusing case around the bulb on the ceiling, have the people who specifically don't like the bright lights wear sunglasses or something, BUT NO let's just use a single floor lamp 15+ feet away for all of our lighting, that's so much more convenient for everybody!!!
Then someone else takes their boots off and it stinks, but you can't say anything because that's rude and you'd hurt their feelings and THEY can't smell it, and they won't do anything like wear socks in their boots, wash those socks regularly, wash their feet regularly/better, or look into why their sweat smells like death, because expecting basic hygiene from an autistic person is literal Nazi behavior!!
And God help you if you want to just casually talk to that girl that sits in the corner, because SHE learned that autistic people struggle to modulate their voices, so every single thing she says COMES OUT THREE TIMES LOUDER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE and always sounds hostile/condescending!! But you can't say that makes you uncomfortable, because then you're the asshole expecting her to do the impossible and communicate like a normal human adult! Oh, and speaking of adults, there's an autistic kid running around who starts a conversation in the middle of you talking with another adult, walks away while continuing it, and makes it super difficult to look at him while he's talking, but you can't tell him to stand in one spot or wait until you're done because his mother doesn't want to "force him to mask at home," so you have to let him be as annoying as physically possible because trying to correct him before he's a 6 foot tall psycho IS LITERALLY HITLER!!!!
And then you can't be spontaneous or suggest a plan that hasn't been made 50 years in advance because even the mere suggestion alone puts everyone on edge! And someone's definitely gonna tell you five times over why they have a system, how the system works, who made the system and when, examples of the system not working, examples of it working well, random story from their job with a similar scheduling system, why not using the system is bad, why you were wrong for not adhering to the system, changes they themselves would make to the system, on and on and on UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATED WITH!!!!!
And no matter WHAT, if anything you say or think or do or don't say or think or do makes someone else uncomfortable, they are well within their rights to lambast you for it from now until infinity, but if YOU'RE uncomfortable, WELL TOUGH TITTY TOENAILS, BITCH! You being uncomfortable makes the group uncomfortable! And actually you're the asshole! You've been the asshole the entire time!!!! AND IT'S LIKE THIS EVERY DAY UNTIL YOU DIE!!!!!!
I mean-- gracious country living! With neurodiverse friends!! In a commune!!! What a wonderful idea!!!!!!!!
So, there's an bit of meme on Reddit (and elsewhere) that the average autist sounds exactly like ChatGPT. Partially because someone of them actually relies on it to summarize shit and occasionally fabricate an response to someone. Here's the callout post about this phenomenon.
In more uplifting news, someone wrote an manuscript on how nonverbal social cues actually functions. Coincidentally, they've been repeatedly accused of sounding like an ChatGPT clone for his initial post.
Someone else made an flowchart about how to actually get random shit done, exactly how an normal person would do it. I genuinely have no words that can describe how retarded this is
An attempt to start a round of community infighting by misunderstanding the "Not all normies are..." argument.
And if they were faced with the opportunity to help a teenager to develop an more nuanced view on life instead of just letting him shriek at anyone that violates his sense of justice. Guess which option that a lot of Redditors picked?
Pedo accusation against a guy who was watching some kids out of his window.
Someone is annoyed by the abundance in sexual themes in advertising. As usual, the cope is that they're more concerned about more rational things instead of impulsively buying shit. Plus, one guy is using his PDA as the reason why he's immune to modern advertising
That intro is way too dramatic. Watched till part 2 and the narcissism lingo already appeared ("lack of empathy"). Does this help anyone with its way too generalist delivery?
Might not be the best thread for this, but I read this article for work, and found it exceptionally useful. If all clinicians applied this theoretical framework, over-diagnoses would plummet and an actual diagnosis would fucking mean something.
Disclosure & PL: on the point of burnout from chasing fakers out of my consulting room with a pitchfork
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Must be fun life that you're living when someone just sharing their headcanon manages to be the highlight of your day
What a wonderful idea!!!!!!!!
