Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

The deterioration of Donald Trump's public image is not primarily attributable to the Iran conflict or tariffs. Rather, it is due to his explicit admissions of aligning with Israeli interests. He does not appear to be the overarching authority in this matter. Furthermore, Benjamin Netanyahu has inflicted more damage on Trump's reputation than any revelations contained within the Jeffrey Epstein files. Trump looks like he taking order from Netanyahu. With everything else he cared about looking like he was In charge. Trump doesn’t look like he’s top dog right now.
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By the end of this week, Iran won't have any missiles left. If we bomb Khamenei's son in funeral (:story:) plus this, i'd consider it victory.
You know it just feels like I've seen this movie before...

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To be fair, Russia also has an actual aerospace industry that churns out big boy missiles by the hundred each month. They average shooting about 3-4 a day, slightly more now that they've gotten their production up to about 150 per month.

Iran does not have this luxury. All of their launchers are ground based. Russia could also lob missiles from behind total air supremacy over their homeland from aircraft. It's doubtful that Iran can fly any sorties without getting hunted down.
 
"Why is it a problem that the insane death cult be allowed to have nukes?"

McNamara's Morons live on.
You must be thrilled to see your old unit being reactivated then.

You'll know an American invasion is going to happen if & only if there are massive ground force movements toward Iran, similar to those preceding the invasion of Iraq - movements which would be impossible to hide, which would doubtless take more months, and which pointedly have not happened anytime during the buildup to this air campaign vs. Iran. (Keep in mind the Iraq invasion took nearly 500k US troops, and 2003 Iraq was significantly weaker than 1991 Iraq or - in theory, at least - 2026 Iran.) Until & unless that happens, you can safely chalk this one up to Democrat fearmongering.
Iraqi freedom took a year and half and was able to utilize higher levels of existing regional deployments (due to commitments to SA & Kuwait to be ready to contain Saddam should he start shit).
Iran has double the population of Iraq. If the US invade-invades, there will be a new draft - period.

The only Russian equal would be an SU-57 of which they only have 30 non-prototypes.
There is no Russian equal. There is no equal, period. The Su-57 has the cross section of a leer jet and a massive IR tailpipe picture because Russia is having trouble producing an engine to the design specs. They thus have a temporary engine installed in all their Su-57s that requires a metal grating be installed over the intakes to direct airflow, cover the forward IR signature, and hold the engines in place because they aren't the same dimensions as the intended engine. This utterly wrecks the stealth geometry and radar returns.
They also bolted on a vector nozzle to the engine with insufficient heat disapation (Again, TEMPORARY engine; at least in theory its been like 10 years) so the rear IR signature is terrible.
there is a reason Russia isn't using their "totally production and not a prototype/demonstrator" stealth jet to mog Ukraine's air defenses.

Japan and Korea are formidable on paper but have zero combat experience, same goes for China.
From a guy who has flown with them:
The biggest issue with the Japanese and Korean airforces is political, specifically their pilots are very passive. Both nations assume in any dust up Big Daddy Sam is going run theater command and go to utterly annilihate China. Its just china the enemy so they are very defensive focused and not really trained to "fly hard".

Russia has quite a few good aircraft. SU-34s hold only 1000 KG fewer than an F-15EX, 12k vs 13k, actually having a bomber fleet makes them one of two airforces on the earth with a track record of pulling off such operations. Most of the Sukhois can and have beaten up on aircraft they are supposed to beating up on, a Sukhoi has never been killed by anything other than another Sukhoi until the Indians ruined that record in their last spat with Pakistan. Russia's issue is that they don't produce anywhere near enough aircraft for overwhelming first strikes. They've been very casualty adverse over Ukraine, which isn't a bad thing, but it's largely motivated by only making 2 SU-34s a month, as much of their production capacity is spent keeping their current air fleet afloat.
1) Not disputing the Su-34 is a decent performer; shitty Russian avionics asside its a very competent fighter-bomber.
2) They don't have much of a stategic bomber fleet anymore. lol.
3) I notice you are trying to word game and say Sukhois and ignore what has happened to MiGs historically. Su's just haven't been exported as much. And Su's have gotten mogged. Repeatedly and decisively.
Also, I'm assuming you meant to say "in air to air", becasue Su-34s and 35s have been utterly raped by Patriot systems over Ukraine.
4) Point of order: The are COMPLETING something like 2 Su-34s a month. this includes service life overhauls and upgrading to the latest which I think is the Su-34M. Net-new airframes, and that includes finishing production on airframes that started before Ukraine and Sanctions kicked off, is somethg like 2-3 Su-34s a year.
Disclaimer: Russian Defense production is heavily obfuscated, between attempts to decieve western intelligence and factory runners straight up lying on reports, I don't think anyone actually knows.

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According to Wikipdia only one of their 3 Kilo class subs is on patrol. The other 2 are in refit.
Did they sink the Russian built Kilo nuke sub?
there is no Kilo nuke sub. Kilos are D/E and lack the ability to have launch tubes. The best you have is the 636.3/Improved Kilo II, which has an lengthened upper forward torpedo room that can launch a specially-packaged Kalibr missile varient. There is no (official) nuke warhead for the Kalibr and given the tight clearances it'd be a hell of a job to develop one the Kilo could launch. They also cannot launch their Kalibers while fully submerged.

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Everyone is getting to kill a few final muslims before retirement.

It's odd that these strikes only began 2 days after the Iraqi militias have been launching constant missiles & drones towards American bases, it seems linked to the fact that they're now also picking on the Kurds, which Trump wants to assist in overthrowing the regime.
tl;dr: they thought the Iraqi Shia terrorist orgs would do some performative launches and they wouldn't be a significant threat + gives the Iraqi government the opportunity to do something about it (yes yes I know, fucking lol. But you have to give them the opportunity). now anything launching missiles/drones and chewing up interceptors is a target.

Haven't had time to watch this shit minute by minute, but Hakeem Jeffries (sounds awful sand nigger-ish to me) is up there saying "Oh we're gonna vote to make em stop".

Wouldn't that make any Iranian regime resistance hold out all the fiercer, hoping the vote passes in their favor?
This nigger should be hung for treason.

My memory isn't great but IIRC the whole story goes that muhammad realized his wife was nowhere to be seen and panicked. Until he saw a guy riding a horse and behind him was aisha who was stranded and saved by the guy. let's say that it led to people making rumors that she fucked him since apparently the whole journey took a day before she arrived to where muhammad was. This unsurprisingly led to muhammad accusing her of adultery and distancing himself from her, only to "suddenly" get a revelation from allah That made it so that you needed four witnesses for adultery. And thus he reunited with her. you know, totally not him trying to pretend he didn't get cucked by a guy whose dick ACTUALLY WORKED.
Its even better than that.

So there is a young, virile, and popular low-level commander. A big up-and-comer, super beefy and fit, basically the ideal Islamic warrior. I forget the dudes name, but there is some evidence he was a literal nigger/half-nigger. He had cause to interact with the prophet and his household before.

Muhammed was traveling and they had stopped at an Oasis to rest. The Soldier was in the protection detail that followed behind. Aisha who was like 17 at this time "lost her necklace" playing there left the Prophet's travel group and returned to the Oasis. hearing this story, Chadhammed Ra'dcock goes to check the Oasis without telling anyone. The next day as they are gettign the search party ready to comb the desert, he rolls into the town Muhammed was traveling to with Aisha on his horse.

Aisha's version is she returned to the Oasis, and waited for someone to come get her as she was so important she knew she could just wait there comfortably. then Chadhammed Ra'dcock rolls up, but its late and traveling at night is dangerous so they wait until morning.
Chadhammed says he knew of the oasis near by and opted to check it without telling anyone because he figured that's where someone would go.

Any person with any sense knows what happened:
Aisha is in early womanhood and married to a 60 year old she has to wait her turn with with 11 other wives. She arranges a liason with Chadhammed Ra'dcock to get railed all night, assuming that her status as wife of the prophet would keep her above rumor and suspicion.

There is also evidence that Muhammed knew or instructed Aisha to go get filled with this guys virile jizz.
To tl;dr: in the days before paternity tests, if your wive got pregnant it was obviously your kid. Given the importance of hereditary succession, and mortality rates, if your plumbing didn't work you were seen not just as a broke dick, but someone weak - you would die and no one would take over your affairs, thus you could be bullied and cheated with limited consequence. The solution to this problem was to find a strong, virile man to knock up one of your 6 wives, ideally the youngest as she'd give birth to the healthiest.
So it is very possible Muhammed himself arranged the paring hoping to have His Wife's Son be the biological son of this strong islamic warrior.

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A Kuwati F/A-18 shot down the three F-15s. It's now the only fighter to ever shoot down a F-15.
Jesus christ. Fucking sand niggers destroy everything, including the F-15's perfect Air to Air record. It was already bad enough we had to caveat with "never shot down air to air" Now we have to add in some gay bullshit like "undefeated in air-to-air combat against an opponent (please don't ask about friendly fire)"

anyway the Shah managed to secure like 78 of these back in the day and SOMEHOW the Iranians have kept a handful of them combat worthy (as in they can carry combat loads and take off, not that they would win) and they are the ONLY nation left on earth that has such airframes in such condition and sadly they will likey end up like these absurdly beauitful f-4 phantoms and f-5 tigers that Israel also destroyed
The F-4 (and the unending service-life extending varients, it I think we got to H) was one of the world most numerous combat aircraft ever build with varients in service to most of the globe. Its very likely they were able to secure parts, and what parts they couldn't get on blackmarket deals.... it started design in the 50s, I would imagine Iran could make the parts even under sanctions.

The US has 50,000 troops and more forces and fighters entering the region.
that 50,000 are all POGs tho.

We tried to arm the Kurds in Iraq AND Syria to we are convinced this meta will work eventually
The main thing I enjoy about the Trump admin is the blatant honesty about the fucked up shit. Sure it's not a great idea to fund terrorists, but at least he's honest about it.
The Kurds are worthless.
Kurds were not the ones blowing up IEDs in Iraq. They were the opposite. The only time the US had problems with the Kurds is when we tried to keep them from genociding the Sunnis. When ISIS tried to enter Kurdistan they got utterly raped.

The SDF Kurds were the only ones pretending the rules of war exist and areas they took over had some of the most normalized returns to life of any rebel-held areas. They fought ISIS and more radical elements.

Also while all Arabs are garbage at war, Kurds are the Uber-arabs when it comes to battle.
The only thing wrong with them (other than being sand niggers) is they're commies.

I'm not sure how the Iranian flavor of Kurd is. I do seem to recall being told they are more inbred, violent, and retarded than the ones from Turkey/Northern Iraq.

All five are historically anti-monarchy and anti-Islamist secessionists.
They may take an Iraqi-style deal where they get their own special Kurd area. I forget the details of the Iranian kurds and their ethnic interplay and how reasonable they are.

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if you do, then I mean go nuts. I won't kinkshame you.

tl;dr: once you enter the government's system i.e. drafting, they have a legal obligation to return you as whole as they can make you, even if you wash out. Thus if you start pissing and shitting yourself in reception, that means something is wrong with you and they need to make ABSOLUTELY SURE it wasn't caused by the government. Since you are pooping and pissing yourself, that will mean CONSTANT anal-rectal exams and urinary exams. Fingers and fiber-optic scopes will be jammed up your butthole on a near daily basis to make sure its not a prostate problem. Even if you tell them it was all an act, they can't just take your word they will have to be sure. The findings need to collected, logged, and reviewed by a board of doctors and double checked by civilian doctors to make sure the military doctoers aren't up to monkeyshines. It'll take at least a month for diagnosis and 6+ months for the med board, who will likely order more tests. You do not get to refuse treatment.
While this is going one, you'll be in the medical ward. You will not be allowed your cell phone most of the day, nor unrestricted access to a computer. You will be put into a day room with 50 others to share one TV most of the day - if they decide your incontinence allows you to leave your bed, that is. If you are LUCKY there will be 4 very locked down government computers from 2002 for you to share with the other 50 guys in the medical wing, but chances are you'll need to get permission to go to the lounge where you can pay by the minute for computer time.
If you do not comply with orders, your limited privileges will be taken away.
After a month you will be begging the ward nurse to please let you mop the floors.

You will be sent to mandatory physical therapy as well. Read: You'll be doing military PT but the guy leading it won't yell as loud.

From here once given a clean bill of health and you will have two outcomes:
Either you've given up your act and reenter trainign but with a massive shadow hanging over you.
Or you are charged with draft evasion, sent to prison, and then you constantly shititng your pants won't be an act once your bootyhole is stretched out.

or tl;dr: Bro you will be eating MREs, you are not going to be able to shit your pants even if you want to.

I have a theory on part of why Russia and Iran managed to function as paper tigers for so long.

It's the Pentagon's fault.
@WiskeyJack has it covered.

I didn't realize people hadn't figured that out yet. I thought it was pretty well known we use rigged wargames to justify infinite R&D dollars for Raytheon.
Exactly this. Wanton Sovietoid and Chicom cope is repeated like it resembles reality to make sure defense budgets are approved.

The USAF/ANG's F-16s routinely get upgraded and updated through various service life extension programs to match the newest blocks being produced for export. The USAF announced a few years ago that the F-16 is going to stay in service until the damn 2040's. Do you think they're just going to keep flying them with the same engines, radars, and FCS in them from the 80s and 90s?
Adding to this, the export F-16s usually have different avionics/radar/weapons integration packages for different countries, and sometimes different engines, but its the same airframe.

Muzzies have a hateboner for literally everyone who is not them. It serves us to prop up Israel as a hate-sink for these neanderthals. Pay them to zip the Mohammedan savages, and we won't have to.
they have a hate boner for anyone who isn't the specific flavor of pedoworship they are and the right ancesories.

Its Vault 11 all over again.
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Uhhh, this you nigga?
Uhhh, this you nigga saying that Iran has a litoral Literal gate on Hormuz, nigga?
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I'm not even bothering with your retarded zigger ballwashing cope. Two more weeks.


If they are flying those big bitches around then Iran really has zero control over their air. They are to big and slow to operate anywhere near contested air space.
All you need to know is that they're big enough and slow enough that if they're running roughshod, it means saying we have total air superiority is an understatement.
Not wholly true. The US ran B-52s (and lost a number) over vietname and we didn't have supremacy just superiority. The B-52 operates at almost the edge of space, the distance involved means that only dedicated inceptor systems can actually reach it even if they can see it. The B-52 also usually carries counter measures and usually ECM pods.

Now caveat is:
- In the 1960s, flying at 50,000 feet made you immune to fighters. This one of the reasons the F-15 was such a big fucking deal and, until the US learned how utterly shite it was, the Mig-25 was so scary.
- Previously you needed a dedicated strategic-intercept missile. Anything after the S-300 and I forget what revision of I think it was Hawk that that Patriot took over for...basically any anti-air system that anyone will buy today has a standard missile that will reach those altitudes now.
- Naturally the US outside of a WWIII scenario isn't going to send the BUFF into anything where there is any viable threat.
- The B-52 is unlikely to penetrate very far into Iranian airspace.
 
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To be fair, Russia also has an actual aerospace industry that churns out big boy missiles by the hundred each month. They average shooting about 3-4 a day, slightly more now that they've gotten their production up to about 150 per month.

Iran does not have this luxury. All of their launchers are ground based. Russia could also lob missiles from behind total air supremacy over their homeland from aircraft. It's doubtful that Iran can fly any sorties without getting hunted down.
Iran has allies who fit that description and might help. Just like Ukraine did. Are you going to sink a Russian supply convey crossing the Caspian after feeding Ukraine heavy weapons for four years? Putin's reasons for invading are identical: to stop state-sponsored terrorists (AZOV) killing Russian citizens. Agree or disagree it's just as valid as what's happening in Iran. It's a shame Trump didn't walk away from that one like he said he would. Then he'd have an argument.
 
Anyone cover the IRIS Dena? Iranian frigate apparently got ACK'd right outside Sri Lanka. (A)

See, this is what separates regional powers from great powers. Iran sends a shitty little frigate on a tour of the world and think it's safe, we smack it down. No fuss, no muss, just another member of the Iranian navy down for the count.
 
Our favorite C̶C̶P̶ ̶F̶u̶n̶d̶e̶d̶ ̶S̶h̶i̶l̶l̶ based truther has come out with a new video on the current conflict. He’s probably trying to make it look bad for the USA due to his vested interest and funding, plus trying to downplay or cover for the failure of the Chinese weapon systems.
Back in May of 2024 he predicted that the invasion would be done via a ground force by the USA, and it would fail immediately due to the home terrain advantage the Iranians have and hatred for the USA.
Edit: He believes Iran can keep the Strait of Hormuz closed for a long time… except they can’t for that long as we destroyed their navy.
Edit 2: He was in an interview recently with Sneako, lol.
 
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Our favorite C̶C̶P̶ ̶F̶u̶n̶d̶e̶d̶ ̶S̶h̶i̶l̶l̶ based truther has come out with a new video on the current conflict. He’s probably trying to make it look bad for the USA due to his vested interest and funding, plus trying to downplay or cover for the failure of the Chinese weapon systems.
Back in May of 2024 he predicted that the invasion would be done via a ground force by the USA, and it would fail immediately due to the home terrain advantage the Iranians have and hatred for the USA.
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Iran controls the striat of Hormuz! 20% global oil! Its over! Iran dominance forever.
*Saudi Arabia builds a pipeline to the red sea, traffic to China still affected by Hormuz dangers but supplies to Europe aren't*
Red sea. that means it supportes the Party and woudl never allow western capitalist imperialism on its waters.
You aren't allowed to do that.

Iran has allies who fit that description and might help. Just like Ukraine did. Are you going to sink a Russian supply convey crossing the Caspian after feeding Ukraine heavy weapons for four years? Putin's reasons for invading are identical: to stop state-sponsored terrorists (AZOV) killing Russian citizens. Agree or disagree it's just as valid as what's happening in Iran. It's a shame Trump didn't walk away from that one like he said he would. Then he'd have an argument.
AHHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

Russia can't take a neighbor 1/5th its population after 4 years. Longer then they were WWII, INCUDING the month they worked with Hitler to invade Poland. Putin's convoy would be sunk and he coudn't do jack shit about it. Their military has been proven fake, lame, and 100% gay. (literally gay, as all the love blooming on battlefield shows)
Putin knows this and told Iran to go pound sand get pounded into the sand

China has no interested in Sand Nigger wars with their muslim western edge. They only want this gweilo nonsense to end ASAP so their oil deliveries aren't affected.
They sent Iran radars (but no missiles) because it was worth getting data on how well they'd do against the US in real combat. They got their answer abour 30 minutes after shit kicked off.

Then again, you believe not only slorp Russian MoD propaganda with no gagreflex but believe that Iran has a literal gate over Hormuz the US would need to open if they close it. So I guess that tracks.

Colored revolutions, but that didn't work out a few months ago. So its just drone rain until they all quit i guess.

Evil, imperialist, wrong Color Revoltions: People turning out in great numbers to be very angry that they will be losing their high-paying jobs because the leader was forced to reneg on agreements because the guy who puppets him is mad his puppet might slip its strings.

Based, Trad, Organic, Separatists: Sending soldiers and equipment into a civil war, saying you aren't and its all a lie despite video evidence, shootign down a civilian airliner from an uninvolved 3rd country.
 
Perhaps, but to what end ?
History has proven that's not how regime change are done.
if you just keep bombing groups of prospective sand popes when they gather in high-profile public spaces, eventually they will A: stop trying to elect sand popes, or B: run out of sand popes to try to elect

both options are tolerable and if it's a tossup between my tax dollars going to this or EBT, i know which i'd choose
 
If foreign policy affected elections, we would crown HW Bush as eternal president.
I don't think people understand national elections in the United States. Moderates intentionally vote for whatever maintains the status quo regardless of anything going on. However, they also make sure to prevent 1 party from continuously winning elections and taking over. When a new president is getting elected after the 2nd term of the previous guy, moderates will elect the other party's guy and give that party control over the House and Senate. Then they moderate that party in the first midterm election by voting against it for Reps and Senators. Then they'll re-elect the same president to preserve the status quo and the cycle continues. Its all about preventing either party from having long-term dominance while also keeping the status quo going.

So George H. W. Bush was lucky to get elected due to non-moderate voters overpowering moderates but the moderates made sure he'd be 1-party president in order to stop the Republican party from staying in power much longer. They then replaced Clinton with GWB and replaced him with Obama. Its all about keeping everything in balance.
 
I don't think people understand national elections in the United States. Moderates intentionally vote for whatever maintains the status quo regardless of anything going on. However, they also make sure to prevent 1 party from continuously winning elections and taking over. When a new president is getting elected after the 2nd term of the previous guy, moderates will elect the other party's guy and give that party control over the House and Senate. Then they moderate that party in the first midterm election by voting against it for Reps and Senators. Then they'll re-elect the same president to preserve the status quo and the cycle continues. Its all about preventing either party from having long-term dominance while also keeping the status quo going.

So George H. W. Bush was lucky to get elected due to non-moderate voters overpowering moderates but the moderates made sure he'd be 1-party president in order to stop the Republican party from staying in power much longer. They then replaced Clinton with GWB and replaced him with Obama. Its all about keeping everything in balance.
Tldr but you're wrong. The economy, stupid!
 
Perhaps, but to what end ?
History has proven that's not how regime change are done.
Bro worry about your cooking or something. The people begged us for help, Iran practically declared war on us in the 70s and we didn't do shit, we have a massive amount of bombs and weapons of war, and no plans on trying to turn Iran into the West. We can kill off the hardliners until they stop spawning and leave the rest to the iranian people and the Arab nations who are aligned with us. If it works great. If not oh well are military got some more experience
 
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