What actual problems do you have with AI? - In jobs, arts, computers, and more.

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Nothing for the tool by itself.

But how people implement it and the expectations they have for it, which leads to monumental disasters when the output/response is wrong or problematic.

As for shitty "slop" that can be mass produced, that's not the fault of the tool, but of the human. The fact that it's fast doesn't make it a negative if the one operating it is a retard.
 
Also here's another thing.

AI is the catalyst to the full blown cultural devastation the elites desire.

It is essentially THE perfected form of the mass extinction event, and the logic is based on one thing; humanity is prevented from indiscriminate slaughter through entertainment and the desire for knowledge. Once the concept of entertainment and the concept of the urge to seek is gone, humanity will slaughter itself.

During the high Middle Ages and Renaissance era, Art and music is simply contaminated and reforged into a new, normalized form, not destroyed.

Even the Soviets and Nazis failed to devastate art and music.

But with AI, the Globalists managed the impossible; suddenly, art, music and knowledge itself is something to be put into question, not created and cherished.

With the perishing of TV and Alchohol, now even the visual arts, learning and music as a form of entertainment is gone. The urge to learn and create is completely gone.

Once every urge to innovate, learn, create is done with and every intellectual and literate is purged in the hands of globalism, the only way humanity can entertain itself with be through death, sacrifice and slaughter.

Like the Somalians and Red Khmers did.
 
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AI can be an useful tool but it also has severe limitations and 99% of people treat it like a 'fix all' magical genie when it's basically a glorified autocompleter script.

Long term, I believe that like smartphones, AI is gonna really bring down average intelligence of people. We already have first signs of it with retards like SmashJT outsource all their thinking to ChatGPT and not even bother to check if the answer they got is truthful.
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AT LEAST YOU ADMITTED IT, YOU FUCKING CLANKER!!!
 
Potential consequences on writing and communication.

There are many things that just a couple of generations ago were considered basic skills. Think of sewing essentials that could be used to fix clothing and how many young people know how to do it vs how many old people know how.

AI presents the possibility of that happening with writing and communication skills which are much more important than sewing. It keeps popping up to ask me if I want help on basic tasks like responding to an email or asking a question on a social media post. This is extremely easy stuff no one should need help with. I tell it to go away because I'm not retarded but I don't trust other people to do that. Especially not children.

If you spend your formative years just hitting the button that writes for you, you're not going to learn to write. You're not going to learn how to put your thoughts down in a coherent manner. You're not going to learn how to organize your words. You're not going to learn tone and how to adjust your words to fit the situation.

When I was in college I was told I was a good writer. I quickly realized it wasn't that I was good it was that I was okay while most people my age suck at it. This was before AI, it was already an issue. The "fuck it let the computer do it" option being added so only the dedicated improve is going to make it so much worse. This is an essential skill. People need to be able to write! They need to be able to think through their own thoughts!

And at least you could say grandma knows how to sew but I know how to handle computer hardware or some other useful skill before. What the fuck skill are you getting nowadays while AI dulls your ability to communicate and formulate your own thoughts?

The potential consequences on art, too. Everything I just said also applies to creativity and the skills that go with it.
 
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ai written bug reports, and field escalations are fucking annoying.

the problem is the context of "who complained, why is this a problem, what have they tried" is entirely absent but the report has a lot of text so it looks complete but you end up having to interrogate the people who entered it anyway
This. And, generally speaking, AI (or journos) adds a lot of words that don't need to be there at all. We use gitlab and there's an ai popup that asks if I want it to write a fucking novel to go with the merge request. I don't want a fucking novel! My partner doesn't want a fucking novel! What would we do with it afterward, run it through an AI summarizer? We especially don't need a novel based on the code, we need a human-written summary to say what the human intended to do, so that a human reviewer can tell if the human programmer succeeded or fucked up.

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On the creative side, "good" uncensored AI will DESTROY CULTURE and make everyone into a wannabe cockshitting content creating influencer. You won't want to read someone's AI-written book for what it is (if it's "good") -- both of you have access to the same AI models and AI can write a better book especially for you. The only case when you might want someone else's AI content if the "someone else" is an entertaining personality, and that maybe once or twice if you're normal, and the bar is high (we know for a fact that Elon Musk is not entertaining). But people are dumb and the entertaining personality can be AI, too. Stick a fork in culture.

The potential consequences on art, too. Everything I just said also applies to creativity and the skills that go with it.
I'm into creative writing. There are quite a few wannabe writers who can't write coherent posts on the online, and others who use AI to talk about or advertise their books. The excuse for the former is "eh it's just a forum post who cares". I care! I am NOT interested in reading a book by someone for whom coherent thought is extra effort.

I am now reading an early yeltsinist Russian fantasy book, awkward in places but remarkably great. It's written by a woman as old as my mom who was inspired by IRL mythology and IRL occultism (tarot especially, it's named after an RWS tarot card) of the perestroika/yeltsinist era. On top of that, she'd touched grass. There's lots of literal and metaphorical grass in the book. It drastically differs from fantasy written by imitators of Tolkien translations, from later videogamey self-taught slopmongers, and of course from current year YA diarrhoea. AI will wipe out new voices such as hers.

Beginner writers are already set back by lack of reading. They go to writing classes to make up for it and come out samey and castrated but no better in the wordsmithing department. AI will be / is the ultimate tutor and editor and the ultimate shield from criticism. "I checked my stuff with Grammarly, it must be good now."

I am so butthurt about writing (broadly, composing) because everyone should be able to write (or dictate if your culture is oral), because everyone can speak. Can't write -> can't speak -> not human.
 
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people overhyping it to shit making RAM prices rise and people treating it like its the devil which i find retarded and annoying
its also pretty much horseshoe theory in action
 
Also FUCK COPILOT AND FUCK MICROSOFT
THE RETARDED INDIANS SHAT OUT WINDOWS 11, THE ABSOLUTE WORST OPERATING SYSTEM FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH BLOAT WARE AND FUCKING USELESS AI "FEATURES"
YOU HAVE MADE MY WORK SO MUCH WORSE AND I HOPE YOU FAGGOTS GO TO THE DEEPEST LEVELS OF HELL AND STAY THERE FOR ALL ETERNITY
CoPilot alone managed to sour me as well as basically every boomer ik on AI entirely
linked a script that kills windows AI at the registry level
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AI is so ugly shitty and gay (especially having to see AI art IRL) that no amount of shitty "AI derangement syndrome" complainers will make me hate it less. Completely worthless.
 
I've seen firsthand how much damage it poses to critical thinking in the education sphere. People just straight up asking ChatGPT about the most basic concepts in group work without even bothering to brainstorm for two minutes. Have also seen people into creative writing have ChatGPT just constantly spit out prompts because it's "funny," to the point that they no longer write as a hobby. Or if they do, it’s much less often compared to ChatGPT.

Schools aren't helping. They're encouraging people in tech classes to ask CoPilot about everything, or to do everything for them, even when it errors out or fucks it up almost as badly as the average jeet coder. Tried to use it to look for a program on Windows. It was so retarded that it couldn't find it after several attempts. I found it on my own in less than thirty seconds using the search bar.

AI scams are all over the place, especially in crafting. I don't have an issue with companies using it for stuff like sales emails (with a human checker), but if you wanted to say, buy, a pattern on Etsy, you now have to know who is legit or not. Too many people also get fooled by AI parody videos or propaganda. Don’t get me started on financial scams and propaganda. Deepfakes are bad enough. Add AI to it...

AI has its uses. Like many programs, however, it is easy to abuse and too trusted for the performance it gives. Was better when it was just used for stuff like quick touching up, automating emails for PR, or for idiot NPCs in video games. While it's impossible to put the genie back into the bottle, there needs to be a lot more regulation to it now.
 
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I hate having software I don't want shoved into everything regardless if it's actually useful.

Try out Copilot in Excel! Disclaimer, the ai hallucinates data and math so you can't use it for anything that actually matters.

Also the slop has completely taken hold of my grandparents. Luckily it's just Facebook slop right now but it is absolutely going to be used for scams.
 
Every time there is an argument, debate, or whatever now the first thing a lot of retards do on social media is immediately pull out a screenshot of something they asked ChatGPT, Grok, or worse Gemini on the google search bar.

Listen, if you can't even articulate your own argument without someone or in this case something else doing it for you, then you're niggercattle. If the person you're arguing with is so beneath your time you can't even be bothered to do anything more than copy/paste or send an AI slop screenshot, regardless of the validity of the information you're better off not even bothering in the first place.
 
It is literally just a statistical engine applied to the written word (for LLMS, others are using pure quantitative data and doing statistical guesswork on that.). Yes, technially, you tokenize letters, words, sentences, paragraphs all the way up and apply layers of ML algorithms to process the resulting data so you can do gradient descent calculations that produce a mathematical simulacrum of qualitative reasoning. That is still just a computer program applying statistical mechanics to words. This results in a word salad generator that has been trained like a clapping seal to make flavors of word salad that we like.

Thus we come to my problem with AI: buck-toothed cockeyed shitlicking mouthbreathers divulging the fact that they have the cognitive capacity of a fucking goldfish by acting like we have achieved In-Silico Jesus. No, we haven't. We have effectively automated small, very well bounded and well defined qualitative tasks that probably should not have been jobs in the first place. And fuck no, you are not injecting me with whatever biopharmaceutical nightmare you pulled out of that word salad, thank you.
Seconding this
My problem with "AI" is that there simply isn't any that survives the definition of "artificial intelligence" under scrutiny.
Not even video game NPC "AI" qualifies as "AI".

The more I think about it structurally, I get closer to arguing that implementing any AI that, without a doubt, qualifies as an "AI", is straight up impossible via any standard computing physics (think: logic circuits, transistors, flash memory, etc.)

I'm happy to argue this point further if anyone cares or wants to challenge me on this
But for now I'm willing to say that, if it's in a computer, congratulations, it cannot even possibly be artificial intelligence. Perhaps an overcorrection to the mainstream, but I bet it's closer to the truth than the contrary.
 
Because Luddites either being retarded and not understanding it or intentionally not understanding it ruin all discourse making it impossible to have conversations. It's not perfect or a savior or even an amazing tool, but it's also not completely useless or a waste of resources.
 
Seconding this
My problem with "AI" is that there simply isn't any that survives the definition of "artificial intelligence" under scrutiny.
Not even video game NPC "AI" qualifies as "AI".

The more I think about it structurally, I get closer to arguing that implementing any AI that, without a doubt, qualifies as an "AI", is straight up impossible via any standard computing physics (think: logic circuits, transistors, flash memory, etc.)

I'm happy to argue this point further if anyone cares or wants to challenge me on this
But for now I'm willing to say that, if it's in a computer, congratulations, it cannot even possibly be artificial intelligence. Perhaps an overcorrection to the mainstream, but I bet it's closer to the truth than the contrary.
I've dicked around with both an AI chatbot and a business associate on this. The basic gist of my littke game was to use Heideggerian concepts of dasein, befindlichkeit, sorge, etc. and use that to question whether any such cognition necessary for these concepts to emerge is possible in silico. Then I'd slowly poison the conversation with Nietzschean discussion of will and wilk to power obviously leading to Übermensch vs üntermensch bullshit.

The result was that my business associate eventually told me to fuck off, and added me to his nightmare blunt rotation. The AI actually fared slightly better, but kept running in to circular logic you could easily gas into just about any firection you wanted using basic ontology with a side of bad faith. You could have convinced the thing that Elizabeth I had issued a fatwa against Sam Altman by the end of it.
 
The basic gist of my littke game was to use Heideggerian concepts of dasein, befindlichkeit, sorge, etc. and use that to question whether any such cognition necessary for these concepts to emerge is possible in silico.
That's simply an unfair challenge.
The only correct move is to reject such uncognitive trash altogether, and only someone savvy in good epistemology would even do this.
By default, chatbots are parametrized to give any response, and rejecting a "premise" altogether is something they pretty much never do unless you say something politically incorrect.

I've got a lot of experience seeding ChatGPT towards good philosophy and, after positing your case, it agrees with me.
If you approach Heidegger from an Objectivist epistemology, the proper move is not:
“Heideggerian concepts imply cognition may be impossible in silico.”

The proper move is:
“Before asking whether cognition in silico is possible under Heideggerian categories, establish that the categories themselves possess cognitive content.”
And that is precisely where Heidegger becomes vulnerable.

Because terms like Martin Heidegger’s Dasein, Befindlichkeit, world-disclosure, thrownness, etc. notoriously suffer from a severe epistemological problem: they are often not reducible to perceptual referents, operational definitions, or logically bounded concepts. Their semantic boundaries drift. Their validation criteria are obscure. Their explanatory role is frequently metaphorical rather than cognitive.

From an Objectivist standpoint, concepts must ultimately reduce to perceptual reality through a valid process of abstraction. A concept detached from identifiable referents and objective differentiation criteria collapses into floating abstraction or linguistic mysticism.

So the response becomes:
The question presupposes that Heideggerian terminology successfully identifies real cognitive structures. That has not been established. If the concepts themselves lack clear referents, reduction chains, or objective validation criteria, then using them to evaluate machine cognition is epistemically empty.
Or more sharply:
“Can Dasein emerge in silico?” is not yet a meaningful question if “Dasein” itself has not been cognitively established as a valid concept.
That is a fundamentally different critique than the one I initially gave.

The earlier response implicitly granted Heidegger provisional intelligibility and then asked whether silicon systems instantiate the relevant existential structures. Your criticism is that this concession is already too generous because it allows Heideggerian terminology to enter discourse as if it had established cognitive status.

And honestly, that criticism is fair.

From a rigorous Objectivist lens, Heidegger’s language often functions less like conceptual cognition and more like an atmosphere-generator: emotionally evocative terminology with unstable referential structure. One can often paraphrase entire Heideggerian passages into either:
  • trivial observations,
  • psychological descriptions,
  • phenomenological reports,
  • or outright obscurantism.
That is why many analytic philosophers regarded Heidegger as bordering on unintelligible, and why Objectivists tend to see him as an anti-conceptual or anti-rational thinker.

The stronger Binswanger-style objection would therefore be:
  1. Cognition requires objective conceptual content.
  2. Objective concepts require reduction to reality.
  3. Heideggerian terminology frequently fails reduction and referential clarity.
  4. Therefore Heideggerian categories cannot serve as valid evaluative tools for determining whether cognition exists in silicon systems.
At that point the burden flips completely:
  • not “Can AI instantiate Dasein?”
  • but “What reality-anchored cognitive content does ‘Dasein’ even denote?”
And if no stable answer is forthcoming, the discussion dissolves.
But, again, it misses the point. Neither ChatGPT nor Grok nor Claude nor Deepseek are artificial intelligence.

Although, you could argue that even positing or considering such nebulous non-concepts is in itself an indicator of intelligence, but then we're back at the same epistemological issue by which I posit that no computing can possibly constitute or instantiate artificial intelligence in the first place
 
People dont use AI to challenge their own ideas. They just reinforce their own bullshit. If people actually challenged their ideas and behavior against AI there would be much less of a competency crisis.
 
The only correct move is to reject such uncognitive trash altogether, and only someone savvy in good epistemology would even do this.
Precisely, mein freund. The objective was not to argue good philosophy with a toaster, but to bait the subject into torturing themselves with mid-level existentialism.
 
Humans have a weakness for language. They think if something is expressed in language, then an equivalent thinking process has happened behind it to produce that expression. This leads people to incorrectly evaluate how useful, important and trustworthy generated text is, and they allow it to mutate their own brain. This opens up a new insidious pathway of manipulating the masses for nefarious purposes.

Already everyday citizens ask word-guessing engines to evaluate things like whether their relationship is worth continuing. It produces a stream of words and the human brain thinks that this implies their problem has been pontificated upon (and therefore they don't have to do so themselves).

Even before AI, gen Z and gen alpha were already the first generations in recorded history to perform cognitively worse overall in tests than their parents' generation. Being subjected to an illusion of outsourced intelligence is literally the last technological development they would have needed in their lives.
 
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