Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

[Cryogonal2]

Blue's out of principle I'm rejecting because his design is actually offensive and I refuse to dignify him at all unless absolutely necessary

It's plus six magic, man!

 

[Gimcracker]

Hold up...
It's established at this point that opening a dark fountain within the dark world creates a titan (Chapters 2 & 4)... so how did the Knight open a fountain at the end of Chapter 5 without doing that? We've seen that both of the entrances of Flower King lead to its dark world, and there wasn't a golden door separating the two fountains, so it can't be a situation like the church where the fountains were in separate rooms. The Knight opening a fountain at the exact moment the other one was closed would just be dumb. Is it possible that this scene that was already pretty dumb had to break the rules established a single chapter ago to happen?

 

[Shamino]

I told ChatGPT and Gemini to summarize the transcript and ended up with this. I haven't played Deltarune yet so I can't speak on its accuracy but it reads like occultslop, albeit well-researched and formulated.

LLMs just output an explanation built on pattern matching philosophy and scraping from wiki/reddit/etc. Altho deconstruction of themes are played out in DR, just like UT, isnt really that deep. Toby isnt some scholar, he just intuitively replicates Itoi style of writing but conveying his pop culture background and sociopolitical biases.

 

[Newcomer 42]

It's established at this point that opening a dark fountain within the dark world creates a titan (Chapters 2 & 4)... so how did the Knight open a fountain at the end of Chapter 5 without doing that?

I think you can get away with opening one fountain or two at once. More than that and you risk spawning a Titan. Then again, it's clear Chapter 5 was mostly to insult the average white male fan.

 

[Moral Decay]

Hold up...
It's established at this point that opening a dark fountain within the dark world creates a titan (Chapters 2 & 4)... so how did the Knight open a fountain at the end of Chapter 5 without doing that? We've seen that both of the entrances of Flower King lead to its dark world, and there wasn't a golden door separating the two fountains, so it can't be a situation like the church where the fountains were in separate rooms. The Knight opening a fountain at the exact moment the other one was closed would just be dumb. Is it possible that this scene that was already pretty dumb had to break the rules established a single chapter ago to happen?

Well the Knight used like 5 or 6 swords to summon the titan, and that Fountain was huge compared to the usual Dark Fountain. It was also like the fourth fountain opened inside the church that chapter, versus it only being the second fountain in Flower King in Chapter 5. I think it's more to do with the volume of darkness released, rather than "dark fountain in dark world = titans."

 

[You Can't Un'Ape The Doe]

it's clear Chapter 5 was mostly to insult the average white male fan.

And the exactly one black male fan. I reckon by 2030 they'll start distributing Deltarune like crack in black neighbourhoods. Instead of shooting up O block they'll be cutting off their cocks to be more like Ralsei, which is arguaby worse

Anyway I watched this video and it was pretty good imo

Anyone else seen it?

 

[A random street in Duluth]

LLMs just output an explanation built on pattern matching philosophy and scraping from wiki/reddit/etc. Altho deconstruction of themes are played out in DR, just like UT, isnt really that deep. Toby isnt some scholar, he just intuitively replicates Itoi style of writing but conveying his pop culture background and sociopolitical biases.

LLMs are a fantastic tool for someone already proficient though. Finding alternative explanations, add and remove things to see how it changes the tone, use it to rewrite things, let your imagination run wild for new insights and so on. Even when working on the more professional writing projects, I keep using the brobot to bounce ideas off all the time, its just a fun tool.

Never mistake the absolute delineation between tool and user or mistake word salad for profoundness though. (You) the human have power only to interpret anything and create meaning.

 

[harmy.kook]

To be fair rock solid is a polish cuck and a grifting engament nigger. I won't suprise if this faggot do this ofr engagment.

Wasn't he just talking about Aqua being a ""loli""

I find it SUPER hellarius that those grifting faggots start sucking toby's cock the MOMENT he dropped a loli character in his game.

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Call him a "Chud" but he's not like the ones here.

 

[Two Dollars]

This is what would have happened if Susie didn't sabotage our date because she’s a selfish cunt.

FTFY

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

So when Flowery was claiming to be Asgores dormmate at university, that was made up right?
Was he overwriting Asgores memories of Rudy?
They kind of look alike, and I think Toriel says that they all when to university together in chapter four at the church.

My thought was that Asgore was taking care of the golden flower at university.

 

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I'm curious which items everyone went with.

Apron on Susie, makes the tank more tanky. Really hard to turn down.
BlueShoes for Ralsei, the offer of an item that makes pacify cost zero TP implies the payoff later in the game to be substantial. Otherwise it's a useless item in which case that's just bad game design. Guess we'll see.
And lastly, the SethSpecs for Kris so I can get a bit of a break later if a fight is too hard.