Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

[Sasmate]

Ralsei is a zesty nigga, but he ain't tranny.

I pointed this out earlier but I still find it so fucking weird that it’s basically soft confirmed Ralsei is increasingly hitting on Kris, when Kris’s brother is basically a carbon copy of Ralsei, but most likely less effeminate. What is Toby doing?

 

[Slumbie]

Do these stupid fucking niggers think it's 2004? I can't believe this stupid nigger who Toby Fox lets handle his music (whom Toby Fox himself doesn't even fucking like) went out of his way to stop you from copying the lyrics of the song. He's such a stupid fucking nigger.

It's a wonder why Toby even releases music through this company anymore? They have been nothing but trouble. Sebastian Wolf was even fired and replaced, allegedly. Would it not be easier to just release all this stuff himself at this point?

 

[147573952589676412927]

It's a wonder why Toby even releases music through this company anymore? They have been nothing but trouble. Sebastian Wolf was even fired and replaced, allegedly.

Sadly he wasn't fired, he was just told to shut up permanently and to stop copyright claiming people's shit unless they're straight re-uploads of his songs unedited.

Would it not be easier to just release all this stuff himself at this point?

I can only assume he got fucked over by the contract and doesn't have a choice now.

 

[MisterListerTheBlister]

Found another pretty good Flower Man cover.

I've yet to find a good one with a dude singing it but I also don't wanna look hard enough considering every fucking dude is more like a dude trying to sound like a tranny.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

I pointed this out earlier but I still find it so fucking weird that it’s basically soft confirmed Ralsei is increasingly hitting on Kris, when Kris’s brother is basically a carbon copy of Ralsei, but most likely less effeminate. What is Toby doing?

 

[Slumbie]

I can only assume he got fucked over by the contract and doesn't have a choice now.

Perhaps it's a thing where everything Deltarune related must be released through their company. That would suck if so.

I'm partial to this Pokemon Gen 5 remix. There's a couple of these, naturally. Since the main guitar sample in Flower Man is plucked straight from the Gen 5 soundfont, but this one gets the sound just right.

 

[smartgenius55583433157]

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[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

 

[147573952589676412927]

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inb4 Carol learned how to stop being Carol a long time ago. It runs in the family?

 

[smartgenius55583433157]

Oh man, I can't belive they made all those changes to the wiki, what happened?

 

[A random street in Duluth]

I'm absolutely certain now that Noelle was meant to fall into the dark world with Kris in Chapter 1 and Susie is an anomaly in the prophecy, possibly breaking a groundhog day loop. This heartbeat shit and the sudden, unexplained attraction to Noelle from Susie is the prophecy trying to reassert itself, as "'the way things should be". But at this point we know that the Weird Route is the canon one, so the whole lesbian shit in the normal route is the prophecy route, where it successfully inserted itself back and prevented the canon ending from happening. I'm holding on to the dreams of a flower that it will end in MASSIVE tranny and lesbian cucking as their preferred route and story becomes non-canon and shat on.

 

[Puck Clown]

The whole Ralsei in a dress sequence proves he's not a tranny.
And I can prove it with facts and logic.

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So we climb the tower and we're greeted by our bro in a dress.
Now we know Kris is creeped out from the "Nah bro..." option being present.
Which is the option Kris would pick, since based on the whole "Sucks to be you." Susie interaction in chapter 3, we know Kris speaks very casually and he's a bit of a dick.

Anway, we pick the Kris canon option of "Nah bro...", then what happens?
Ralsei immediately takes the dress off, and effectively says "okay I hope me being a prince is sufficient for you"
He hopes him being a prince is sufficient for us...
This straight up means he didn't dress up because he's a tranny, rather he dressed up as a "princess" because he thought it would endear him to us more.
The dress is discarded and forgotten about forever immediately, he doesn't whine about not being able to wear a dress.
He wants us to like him as much as possible and he thought putting a dress on was a way to achieve that. It's not.

Ralsei is a zesty nigga, but he ain't tranny.

To add on to this, if you said "Of Course", he says


"It's fun to try new things as long as its what other people want"
I.e. Ralsei only shows excitement over being a princess because its what the player seemingly wanted by saying "Of course".

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On the topic of that, I'd just like to note that with all the citations of Kris being enby, not one of them is an instance of Kris or any other character talking about Kris' gender directly. They're all just moments where Kris is referred to as "They/Them".

On the other hand, one of the flower conversations between Aqua and Seth has Aqua directly ask Seth if he's a boy or a girl, to which Seth tries dodging the question, and Blue comes in and says some validating crap

The main character we've been following just gets a bunch of pronoun citations, while a one-off character late in the game gets an entire scene where his enby status is directly confirmed. Let that sink in

 

[Jhonny Jhon]

 

[smartgenius55583433157]

"It's fun to try new things as long as its what other people want"
I.e. Ralsei only shows excitement over being a princess because its what the player seemingly wanted by saying "Of course".

>Feminine guy
>Gets peer pressured to "become a girl"
>Everyone acts like it's what he wanted

Huh, they were right, Toby Fox is pretty good at capturing the "queer experiences"!

 

[You Can't Un'Ape The Doe]

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I'm absolutely certain now that Noelle was meant to fall into the dark world with Kris in Chapter 1 and Susie is an anomaly in the prophecy, possibly breaking a groundhog day loop. This heartbeat shit and the sudden, unexplained attraction to Noelle from Susie is the prophecy trying to reassert itself, as "'the way things should be". But at this point we know that the Weird Route is the canon one, so the whole lesbian shit in the normal route is the prophecy route, where it successfully inserted itself back and prevented the canon ending from happening. I'm holding on to the dreams of a flower that in the end it will end in MASSIVE tranny and lesbian cucking as their preferred route and story becomes non-canon and shat on.

yeah I agree, the girl in the prophecy is clearly Noelle, and the whole aborted WR sequence proves that reality absolutely will shift itself to accommodate for the prophecy even in ways that makes no sense.

 

[my penis is on fire]

yeah I agree, the girl in the prophecy is clearly Noelle, and the whole aborted WR sequence proves that reality absolutely will shift itself to accommodate for the prophecy even in ways that makes no sense.

People have long predicted Noelle would replace Ralsei in the party, on account of her being a mage. What if instead she replaces Susie?
Also, odd that in Chapter 5 Susie has a new spell that works almost identically to Sleep Mist.

 

[spagandhi]

 

[Cave Fisher]

I don't give a shit about troonsei but it WOULD be funny if Ralsei got a whole arc about gender shit while the protagonist we play as is male in every aspect but his pronouns so he can remind you of Frisk.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

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[Deus Exica]

Pretty sure it was made abundantly obvious that Susie is a weird third wheel for the prophecy when she looked at the silhouette meant to resemble her and it had a sword and a long dress and looked nothing like her.