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I guess it's kind of of annoying that ERAM doesn't feel like a "true" boss fight because he's not within the normal mechanics, but otherwise I don't have an issue with it.
its a pretty fun fight at the end of a very very interesting(tm) gameplay section full of lore secrets. it doesnt matter that it uses the zelda mechanics because you get a true and honest boss fight soon after with the knight, anyway, and that fight rules. if anything it wouldve been hard to make the eram fight stand out if it used the normal battle mechanics.
chapter 3 may have been a slog gameplay wise but the sword route and all the gaster shit and interesting details hidden in plain sight more than made up for it. chapter 5 might as well be a standalone indieslop game because other than the 2 minutes and 30 seconds of weird route and the beginning of asgores dark world it doesnt even feel like deltarune
My nigga Jevil is being done so dirty, Spamtel Aviv gets more rep than the clown fucker, smdh.
"I CAN DO ANYTHING" except have an important fucking role past the Macaroni chapter.
it's too much of its own developed thing to just be a side gimmick for one section of a turn-based RPG.
They didn't even experiment with it that hard since none of the real boss fights even use it except that short bit where you counterattack Omega Flowery.
I think the biggest thing the platformer system is missing is an optional ultimate challenge, something like Eram at the end of the Sword Route. The Eram fight was a highlight of the chapter and it made the Zelda sections a lot more memorable, a similar superboss that tests your skills with platformer combat would have been gnarly.
Someone should mod Super Columbine Massacre RPG to be Deltarune themed instead, I think it wouldn't be that outlandish from what the ch5 weird route established.
Actually, when you think about it, every single Secret/Super (Fuck you Knight, for not being a secret boss) Boss has a connection to one of the main characters.
Jevil is most connected to Kris, being one of his cards that he used to play with. (Also, Aqua, who is clearly based off of Kris, uses Jevil's mannerisms like his repetition and his laugh.)
Noelle is most connected to Spamton, having a history with him (he gave her his pipis once, and she LIKED it) and the weird route connection.
Gerson is most connected to Susie, doing his fuckin disney pep talk shit with her constantly
Mew Mew is most connected to the Soul. (Pink was never actually the one who really wanted to fight at all, that was all on the ghost)
and that leaves Ralsei, being most connected to the fucking Knight. Which I guess makes sense, considering the prophecy and whatever the fuck else he's hiding.
It's possible that Kris when he had his soul actually used to sound like Jevil when he talked. No wonder nobody fucking liked him.
Also, on that mario shit, it wouldn't be so bad if tobyfox used his fat stacks of money to hire actual programmers, like, actual computer obsessed huge fucking nerds who jerk off to the size of their github repos and an actual manager to whip them into lead agile scrum networked productivity or whatever the current set of buzzwords are. It would have been very possible to make Deltarune a "larger" game with more crunch, more gameplay and mechanics to it. Alas, he hired tumblrinas and all those can do is to fag up games with endless pronoun shit, faggots, niggers and assorted degeneracy while having a seething resentment for the actual players,
Someone should mod Super Columbine Massacre RPG to be Deltarune themed instead, I think it wouldn't be that outlandish from what the ch5 weird route established.
You could literally just swap out all the charsets but editing the text is gonna be a bitch.
It would probably be easier to just make an RPG Maker game based on that concept from scratch and maybe borrow a few things for consistency.
You could literally just swap out all the charsets but editing the text is gonna be a bitch.
It would probably be easier to just make an RPG Maker game based on that concept from scratch and maybe borrow a few things for consistency.
Funny, it was Susie was getting school shooter memes back when Chapter 1 was new. Now we've come full circle and it's Noelle who seems like the most likely to go postal.
I literally never played those turn based, menu RPG games in my life, so chapter 1 was pretty fucking amazing in how it made me feel childhood nostalgia for games I have never played when Field of Hopes and Dreams started playing. And again with A Cybers World, it brought me back to the 90s school computer rooms and filled with a palpable sense of freedom. Chapter 3 almost managed to repeat that with console games, especially with the part of Susie fucking around, felt genuinely a group of friends just fucking around and playing, a real transcendent meta-moment. This level of immersion is what I expect from art and get it like, once a year, so Deltarune pulling it off several times was an amazing return on investment.
Half of these people would support it because they're insane, the other half would get mad because Kris is happy (and draw Kris getting cucked)
Replaying UT before I play DR proper. Would it have killed Toby to include proper WASD support? Please someone tell me DR actually has WASD movement because this is pretty bad.
>Kris doesn't have his or your soul
>'hang on, doesn't he just die without a soul?'
>wait on the fight menu without inputting anything
>his skin slowly becomes greyer and greyer
>eventually passes out without the need for killing him
I love how some deltarune youtubers are calling people critical of the chapter "theory brainrotted" and insist thats the only reason why they have a problem with it, meanwhile they're entire existence is to just pump out theory pig slop.
Theories are not what made me disappointed, it's that every chapter it's the same bullshit. Weak payoffs, events and emotional beats written off as jokes, and stakes that feel weak because the only thing we (allegedly) have to take seriously is the roaring/kidnappings that Susie herself doesn't even seem to give enough shit about to not goof off every chapter. but god forbid we aren't reminded constantly how IMPORTANT it is NOT to force Noelle to do anything other than throw herself at Susie. THAT is the one thing you HAVE to take seriously.
Edit: also lol everyone pretending they actually give a shit about gameplay now LOL. Probably because that is the only thing everyone at least can agree with being enjoyable in chapter 5, but I know none of these niggas really cared.
I JUST talked about this in the Digital Circus thread because of something Caine, or in this case, Spamton said Link
The post itself wasn't about Deltarune specifically but a LOT of the replies immediately pointed to Deltarune.
To repeat what I said on the Digital Circus thread, theories are just another form of expectations created by what the author chooses to show us. Most theories come up or agree with are based on what we want out of the story, so if our theories turn out to be wrong, its only disappointing because the true outcome was disappointing. Even if our theories turn out to be wrong, if what we get is still very good, then its fine.
This is a good example. Toby made the right call ending Chapter 3 with the Knight reveal. Its not Kris, but getting to meet Knight and getting a taste of how powerful he is sets a very strong precedence. Having the "TV Guy" people have been theorizing about turn out to be very likable even if all theories about him were wrong. Maybe you still don't like Chapter 3 for other reasons? Good thing then that its followed up with a far more serious chapter that focuses on Susie's character and giving us a taste of what the Roaring will be like by having us fight the Titan.
vs SS Starwalker in Chapter 6 Side B
