Tax Reform Armageddon: WE RACE WAR NOW - Don't be a stupid nigger and debate the bill NO ONE CARES (crossthread posts welcome!)

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Herbert Hoover powiedział(a):
I love how they're saying poor people are going to suffer when their taxes are actually going to go down

The only thing I can think of is a potential gutting of social programs, but no one is actually talking about that
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The social program gutting is something to be sad and/or angry about... But that's where any/all negative emotions should be aimed at, honestly.

Anything else is hot air fucking up real arguments to made on all of this.
 
Robotron powiedział(a):
If there's one thing I hate, it's rich people trying to pretend to sympathize to the middle class and poor.
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It's always so fucking condescending. That's because they try to walk this tightrope of talking about issues without saying anything negative about anyone in the groups. Shitty individual flaws and choices are phrased as a group dynamic with a societal cause. It makes everyone in those groups look like stupid children.

Example: "These poor people are obese because of bad options available at their local store"
No, dipshit. Alicia is a fatso because she decided she didn't like eating vegetables at 5 years old and has subsisted her whole life on fishsticks, chex mix, and ramen noodles and the rest of her family eats that crap and are fat because she's the one that does all the shopping and cooking. Her poverty has nothing to do with it.
 
ColtWalker1847 powiedział(a):
It's always so fucking condescending. That's because they try to walk this tightrope of talking about issues without saying anything negative about anyone in the groups. Shitty individual flaws and choices are phrased as a group dynamic with a societal cause. It makes everyone in those groups look like stupid children.

Example: "These poor people are obese because of bad options available at their local store"
No, dipshit. Alicia is a fatso because she decided she didn't like eating vegetables at 5 years old and has subsisted her whole life on fishsticks, chex mix, and ramen noodles and the rest of her family eats that crap and are fat because she's the one that does all the shopping and cooking. Her poverty has nothing to do with it.
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Not only that, but it's usually the same rich people who always complain about this shit, the people who have 5 mansions, 300 luxury cars or could literally wipe their own asses with $100 dollar bills.
 
Robotron powiedział(a):
Not only that, but it's usually the same rich people who always complain about this shit, the people who have 5 mansions, 300 luxury cars or could literally wipe their own asses with $100 dollar bills.
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My favorite one was when Gwyneth Paltrow tried to do the SNAP challenge and went to the Whole Foods and bought a bunch of overpriced organic produce that couldn't be made into a proper meal. These people have no fucking clue what it's like to live modestly and think just giving people a bunch of cash will help them spend it better and make other positive life decisions. It's because they just hire experts to do things for them and don't recognize how that shit doesn't translate to anyone else other than the wealthy.

If a poor person's car breaks down, they gotta figure out how to fix that car. If a poor person's roof leaks, they have to climb their ass up there and fix it. If a poor person's diet is all fucked up, they have to learn how to make better meals for themselves. They can't afford to hire a mechanic/roofer/chef to just handle that shit for them like a rich person can. The condescending rich twitter dickheads do not understand that a healthy dose of self-sufficiency is only way these problems get fixed. Look, I agree that specialization is great but the overhead is a bitch. Getting specialists out there at hundreds of dollars an hour to solve everyone's little hiccup in life like they do with rich people just isn't viable. Middle-class and poor people gotta learn to handle their own own responsibilities to a large extent. That's the only way this works.
 
The debtor's prison went obsolete centuries ago, Dobson, you don't live in that world.
 
I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of stuff like this once upper middle class people in places like SF and NY realize the amount they can right off due to local taxes has decreased.

It will be just like Londoners complaining that they will have to endure the trivial task of applying for a vise to go on holiday in Europe post brexit. You know, the kind of issue that really endures them to the struggling middle class that don't live in major metropolitan areas.
 
76LD910 powiedział(a):
I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of stuff like this once upper middle class people in places like SF and NY realize the amount they can right off due to local taxes has decreased.

It will be just like Londoners complaining that they will have to endure the trivial task of applying for a vise to go on holiday in Europe post brexit. You know, the kind of issue that really endures them to the struggling middle class that don't live in major metropolitan areas.
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I think the democrats are going to be in a panic because of New Yorkers and Californians might start realizing how much of their money is getting taxed compared to the rest of the nation. It could be a red pill moment for the voting base if the upper and middle class see the rest of the country having a boon and they get fucked by their state.
 
DrunkJoe powiedział(a):
I think the democrats are going to be in a panic because of New Yorkers and Californians might start realizing how much of their money is getting taxed compared to the rest of the nation. It could be a red pill moment for the voting base if the upper and middle class see the rest of the country having a boon and they get fucked by their state.
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Red pill moment for a handful maybe. The rest will bitch, whine, vote for state politicians that consistently raise their taxes or institute worthless initiatives that cause their taxes to be higher, and make tweets about how Harry Potter is real life.
 
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