Russia First 🇷🇺 - America First's newfound loyalty to the Russian Federation

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GROUND RULE: This thread is for discussion of America First's proclaimed allegiance to Vladimir Putin and the Russian Federation. It is NOT for political sperging about the ongoing war.
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Since the beginning of the 2022 Invasion of Ukraine, Nick Fuentes has embarked on a bizarre obsession with defending Russia's actions and idolising Russian President Vladimir Putin. Naturally, AF sycophants, who completely lack any and all independent thought, have parroted his views and talking points and it has now become a mainstream element of the movement. Now regardless of which side is 'right' in the war, it doesn't seem like a winning strategy to weigh in on this heated foreign matter.

To quote an article written by Business Insider from March:
"Nick Fuentes offered prayers for Russian forces and praise for President Vladimir Putin over the invasion of Ukraine less than two weeks after Republican lawmakers attended a conference he hosted. He made the comments about Russia during an episode of his "America First" show that aired on March 10."

- In and of itself, it's a bit weird for an 'America First' movement to be openly cheerleading a nation that is one of America's biggest adversaries on the world stage. One would assume an isolationist stance of indifference would be more optical.

"Fuentes opened the show by mocking calls made by Vice President Kamala Harris and other Western leaders for a war crimes investigation into Russia's actions in Ukraine, where Putin launched a full-scale invasion on February 24. Fuentes dismissed concerns about potential war crimes, despite reports of Russian forces attacking civilian targets, including a maternity hospital in Mariupol and two schools and private residences in the Chernihiv region."

- Again, it strikes me as bizarre to weigh in on potential Russian war crimes when you're running a movement focused on internal US political issues. But I dunno, maybe denying war crimes is peak optics?

"We continue to support czar Putin in the war effort," Fuentes said, adding: "We want to keep our brave soldiers in the white, blue, and red in our prayers and in our thoughts as they continue to liberate Ukraine from the Great Satan and from the evil empire in the world, which is the United States."

- Now that's a banger of a quote, lmfao. How can you be 'America First' yet call America 'evil' and cheer for its enemy?

"Later in the show, Fuentes said Putin's actions in the war are "not aggression" and are "not unreasonable," repeating the baseless claim that Russia is trying to de-Nazify Ukraine. He also claimed there are "no extensive civilian casualties," despite the United Nations saying on Monday that there had been more than 600 civilian deaths."

- Here we see Nick, the Mexican child civnat leader of the mestizo race, throwing the nationalist white warriors of Azov Battalion under the bus. Not based.

In Conclusion

I personally do not get it. I don't understand why a movement that is all about putting America first is cheerleading for Russia and making highly inflammatory comments publicly about an issue that has zero relevance to the domestic issues it purports to be about. Whatever you think about Putin, Russia or the war, it's just not good optics to be praising a war, praising a regime widely regarded as being hostile to the United States, and denying the humanitarian impact on Ukrainian civilians. Your average American conservative, let alone your average American voter, is going to find these remarks deeply distasteful.

It seems like all AF has achieved is taking a portion of the American right from Israel First to Russia First, while simultaneously deriding their own country as a 'Great Satan'. I'm not seeing the 'America First' in any of this.
 
Makes me want to make a "Xi First" thread with a Winnie the Gator RareGator attached. Good work.
I will make one if Nick continues to gobble the honey-gazed red throbbing cock of the CPC.
 
I do wonder how much this is just driven by an adolescent's mindset of being a contrarian against the current thing.

"Haha look at these leftists losing their minds over Russia! I love Russia because they Trigger and Own da libs!!!1 u mad bro? :smug: "

I mean, I get it to a degree, I have taken a contrarian stance before to upset a lefty i'm talking to at a bar or something. Difference is, I stop it after we stop talking, I don't go home then and dress myself up in pro-russia shit and host a show with there flag prominent in the background to keep triggering the libs...
 
Does the typical American even care about the war?
All the talk about Russia seems to be to attract those who feel extremely disillusioned with their government and want to watch it burn.

A retarded position to adopt in a movement called "America First" (supporting the historical enemies of one's country is not patriotic, and doesn't earn votes).

But I'm not a Catführer, and I don't have a minor streaming platform.
 
I personally do not get it. I don't understand why a movement that is all about putting America first is cheerleading for Russia and making highly inflammatory comments publicly about an issue that has zero relevance to the domestic issues it purports to be about.
Contrarianism, simple as.

He doesn't think about Putin and his politicies when he's doing this. It's done solely as a counteraction to The Current Thing (The Current Thing being Red Scare 2.0) - he does NOT support The Current Thing, and he'll let you know all about it, whether you want him to or not. Same goes for his cultists too.
There's nothing deeper to it than this, him simping for China and groypers saying Qasim Soleimani is a good guy prior to that is a good proof of it.
 
The way people like Nick idolize Russia and China is the biggest tell-tale sign of what I've suspected all along: their greatest guiding force in their life is contrarianism. If most people are against something, they feel a compulsive need to support it (and vice versa). It's not some elaborate, well thought out ideology, it's a need to stand out from "the herd".
 
Contrarianism, simple as.

He doesn't think about Putin and his politicies when he's doing this. It's done solely as a counteraction to The Current Thing (The Current Thing being Red Scare 2.0) - he does NOT support The Current Thing, and he'll let you know all about it, whether you want him to or not. Same goes for his cultists too.
There's nothing deeper to it than this, him simping for China and groypers saying Qasim Soleimani is a good guy prior to that is a good proof of it.

It's partly contrarianism, your position on the current thing determines whether you and your interests are with alligned with the ruling status quo or opposed to it (which makes you a dissident/rebel/revolutionary/terrorist/traitor in the eyes of status quo and its media). Like Marc Andreessen said on twitter: "the purpose of the current thing is to classify friend and enemy".

Nick is not unique on the far right (and tankie left) in his position on Russia/Ukraine. BAP, TRS, dissident right wing Twitter/4chan largely support Russia as well. Only hardcore white nationalists like Greg Johnson (Western-Ukrainians are white, Russians are slavs) and weird pan-Europeanists like Richard Spencer (Russia threatens a united Europe) support Ukraine while being on the far right.

The idea is that the West is ruled by the GAE (globalist American Empire) and flyover American states are as much provinces of that empire as European countries, Australia, New Zealand and Japan are. The empire/regime is different and seperate from the 'American nation' and supposedly the interests of the GAE and the American nation are in conflict, the far right identifies this GAE as its enemy and any threats to its hegemony (like losing a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine) makes the GAE weaker. Anything that weakens the GAE and its status quo is what far right dissident are interested in.

Problem is that this message is hard to sell to GOP voting, right wing normies because its requires a certain level of ideological indoctrination (or 'sophistication' depending on your perspective) and framing that the average normie right wing populist/nationalist grug brain doesn't have. The average grug generally doesn't distinguish between the regime/government and the nation. So flying the Russian Z flag as an American is terrible optics if you want to play the populist game and appeal to nationalist right wing normies, it shows that Nick lost touch with reality or simply isn't interested in optics anymore or expanding his supporter base.
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
Does the typical American even care about the war?

There's a pretty strong bi-partisan consensus that helping Ukrainians militarily is a good thing among Americans, according to recent polls. Anecdotally, there are about as many Ukrainian flags in my local towns/cities as there are American flags at the moment.

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