Psychiatry - the crazy people who treat our craziness

[AnOminous]

I guess screaming ALLAHU AKBAR and exploding is one cure for depression.

 

[Internet_Loner]

I am neutral on them myself, however I had a terrible one when I was a child who claimed I was autistic. Never liked the bitch, manipulative and egotistical.

Current one is the best, appointments only take 10 minutes or less to write a prescription! The Indian doctors in my town are very good at getting in and out.

 

[Orkeosaurus]

I would assume if the medical field thinks you're qualified enough to hand out happy pills then you're qualified enough to listen to someone talk about their problems for an hour. It's certainly not vice versa

 

[Joan Nyan]

I am not crazy so I don't have any experience with this.

 

[Grisp]

Psychiatrists don't want their patients cured, so they'll do everything in their power to drag out the problem for as long as possible. They do this because the more patients they cure, the less money they make in the long term. Psychiatry is a case of cutting gasoline with sugar after putting on newish brake pads. The only time they'll make a concerted effort to actually "cure" a patient, as in make them think they're cured so they'll go away, is when the patient is so repulsive that they personally can't stand hearing about it anymore, and this "cure" will more often then not entail just letting the patient indulge in their dysfunction wholeheartedly.

This is not my opinion, a psychiatrist told this to me once.

Here is my insane and completely unfounded conspiracy theory - oh, evidence? A psychiatrist totally told me once, like I promise guys!

 

[Pikimon]

I would assume if the medical field thinks you're qualified enough to hand out happy pills then you're qualified enough to listen to someone talk about their problems for an hour. It's certainly not vice versa

It usually doesn't work that way, there are specific training and education available for therapists and psychiatrists and there is overlap between functions but psychiatry is a graying field and refer to therapists or psychologists a lot. Most psychologists for example have training in cognitive behavioral therapy while out of the 20+ psychiatrists I know in my field maybe 1 or 2 are educated in it.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Here is my insane and completely unfounded conspiracy theory - oh, evidence? A psychiatrist totally told me once, like I promise guys!

Yes, because recording a conversation, that I was not prepared to record, for posterity to post on a forum that didn't exist yet is a totally reasonable thing to expect of someone posting in a thread asking for anecdotes.

Even if I did have proof on hand, you'd just invent an excuse for why you'd still refuse to believe it anyway.

 

[Grisp]

Yes, because recording a conversation, that I was not prepared to record, for posterity to post on a forum that didn't exist yet is a totally reasonable thing to expect of someone posting in a thread asking for anecdotes.

Even if I did have proof on hand, you'd just invent an excuse for why you'd still refuse to believe it anyway.

I am not attacking the fact that you did not record your conversation, it would be unreasonable to ask or expect that. But why would you even post such a claim when you literally have no source to present, and if we are to believe you, your only source is the opinion of one single person.

Edit:
Personally I believe pretty strongly in therapy. I have personally had both terrible and great experiences as psychiatrists, like any other profession, come in both good and bad shapes.

I wish that the existing stigma around getting therapy would disappear though, I personally consider mental illness to be just as damaging as physical.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

But why would you even post such a claim when you literally have no source to present

This is literally a thread about "What's your opinion about this field? Do you have experience in it? Or are you experienced by having these mind vandals fuck with you themselves?"

Were you really expecting me to have a source handy for a personal anecdote?

 

[Grisp]

This is literally a thread about "What's your opinion about this field? Do you have experience in it? Or are you experienced by having these mind vandals fuck with you themselves?"

Were you really expecting me to have a source handy for a personal anecdote?

No, I think it's stupid to make extraordinary claims without any source at all, especially when the thread is asking for opinions. Opinions do not require sources. On top of that your claim is rather extraordinary, would you believe me if I said that my friend who is a psychiatrist said "We secretly inject tracking devices in everyone who gets therapy"?

Probably not, because it is an extraordinary claim with literally nothing to back it up. I understand that it might be interesting for you since you supposedly know this person, but for us it's literally just another fucktard on the internet claiming things they do not know about with no sources

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

No, I think it's stupid to make extraordinary claims without any source at all, especially when the thread is asking for opinions. Opinions do not require sources.

And in those two sentences you have defeated your own argument with a refutation, back to back.

What's the dispute? Is it because it's not just my opinion but a relayed opinion expressed to me in confidence by a third party? Are you really asking me to source someone else's opinion?

On top of that your claim is rather extraordinary, would you believe me if I said that my friend who is a psychiatrist said "We secretly inject tracking devices in everyone who gets therapy"?

If it's a secret then that means it can't be proven with a source, otherwise it's not actually a secret.

Probably not, because it is an extraordinary claim with literally nothing to back it up. I understand that it might be interesting for you since you supposedly know this person, but for us it's literally just another fucktard on the internet claiming things they do not know about with no sources

In a thread that is literally about personal anecdotes. What would it even take to corroborate this conversation I had? I could probably easily find a low effort source to shove down your throat if I really felt like skimming a Google search for five seconds, one that probably has its own sources that have their own sources that have their own sources ad infinitum, none of which would be the least bit credible, would that be acceptable?

 

[swiv]

Psychiatry is really useful for people who have some kind of physical/organic brain problem, or a serious addiction or something. Those people are probably a fairly small percentage of people with a "mental illness" though. Like I think most depressed/anxious people either have actual real problems, or modern world has made them its bitch and they have no idea what to do about it.

 

[SachikoFuckBoy]

It definitely depends on the situation. For people with depression only sometimes you can go to talking therapy and find out really useful ways to deal with it and have strategies around it. When it's something that is brain chemistry related and it is severely impacting your day to day life then it's worth talking to a psychiatrist. Bipolar is a good example of when you can do all the talking in the world but you're still going to get those massive ups and downs if you're not properly medicated. Any good pdoc will talk to you about a combination of medication as well as lifestyle stuff like proper exercise and diet.

 

[AnOminous]

I also wasn't joking in my original post. It can actually be useful to break into your psych's folder on you and read it. You don't usually get to read opinions and lengthy notes about yourself by a relatively smart person who doesn't expect you'll ever read it.

 

[Dovahshit]

sometimes they are more loony than the patient they treat. sometimes they are good humans

 

[ZeCommissar]

If someone is depressed because their life is shit and they take medicine but their life is still shit, then I dont really see the point in it.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Psychiatrists don't want their patients cured, so they'll do everything in their power to drag out the problem for as long as possible. They do this because the more patients they cure, the less money they make in the long term. Psychiatry is a case of cutting gasoline with sugar after putting on newish brake pads. The only time they'll make a concerted effort to actually "cure" a patient, as in make them think they're cured so they'll go away, is when the patient is so repulsive that they personally can't stand hearing about it anymore, and this "cure" will more often then not entail just letting the patient indulge in their dysfunction wholeheartedly.

This is not my opinion, a psychiatrist told this to me once.

Modern psychiatry in the U.S and Canada isn't for crazy people. It's for rich people with anxiety and depression. Crazy people like many of the cows on the site can't even afford to see a psychiatrist in many cases. Modern psychiatry has lost interest in the severely mentally ill and set it sights on where the money is. The prison system now deals with the mentally ill. Psychiatry deals with emotional problems.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Modern psychiatry in the U.S and Canada isn't for crazy people. It's for rich people with anxiety and depression.

You're not speaking fron experience or from expertise, you're talking out of your ass because you're mad at people on the Internet.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

You're not speaking fron experience or from expertise, you're talking out of your ass because you're mad at people on the Internet.

We have an extremely significant problem with mentally ill street people in Canada. They are throwing themselves into oncoming traffic, attacking people and overdosing on drugs on a daily basis. Psychiatrists refuse to treat them because they are ''private''. And the rare one's who are government subsidized have a case overload with infinite waiting lists. But... there is no shortage of upper middle and wealthy being diagnosed and able to get their ''Zoloft''. They then can additionally go to psychotherapy and DBT where they can endlessly discuss how the death of their cat fluffy when they were 10 impaired their coping skills as an adult, All covered by their private insurance,

 

[Y2K Baby]

We have an extremely significant problem with mentally ill street people in Canada. They are throwing themselves into oncoming traffic, attacking people and overdosing on drugs on a daily basis. Psychiatrists refuse to treat them because they are ''private''. And the rare one's who are government subsidized have a case overload with infinite waiting lists. But... there is no shortage of upper middle and wealthy being diagnosed and able to get their ''Zoloft''. They then can additionally go to psychotherapy and DBT where they can endlessly discuss how the death of their cat fluffy when they were 10 impaired their coping skills as an adult, All covered by their private insurance,

Lol, Canadian.