Pronoun use

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I would call them...

  • Whatever they wanted, big deal.

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I wont use pronouns..they're fucking retarded.

You are what you are...dressing up and getting surgically mutilated doesn't suddenly transform you into something else, it just makes you some poor messed up schumck whose genitals have been cut off.

As for the Tumblr gender of the day crowd..fuck that noise. Most of them will grow up and the rest are just a waste of a life. If your social life consists of a group-think online only peer-goup then just put a bullet in your brain now cause your life ain't going to get any better once Mommy and Daddy kick off, save yourself the 40 years of lonely misery and do a fucking flip.
 
He or she is fine. I have ditched friends because of requested "they" pronouns-- I tried to accomidate both of them at first but both would correct you in a passive aggressive/entitled way that just made me stop hanging out with them.

It's a pill and quite frankly it feels like both wanted to role play like 14 year olds on Tumblr or something (both are close to 30). I'm sorry but I don't care enough to put that much effort into conversations with those people. I am not going to enter a language obstacle course with an adult with the mentality of a tween.

Funny enough neither knew each other and both are chicks that have liberal arts degrees and are obsessed with tumblr. Both came out to my husband and I WITHIN THE SAME MONTH on separate get togethers. They were both childhood friends of ours that became corrupted by the 'tism.

It's all lols and games until you actually meet one of these people in the real world. It's more pathetic than anything else--- especially when you're adults. Part of you really just wants to say "Grow the fuck up" just because you feel fucking sorry for them. It would be pointless though, because both of them had their little trendsgender circle of friends and you know they would run crying to their respective little hug boxes and bitch about how we didn't accept them and how the world doesn't accept their true selves or something.

I have an adult family member who wants to be a woman and is transitioning . Fucking yeah I'm calling her a girl because I completely believe that gender dysphoria is a real horrible thing to deal with.
It's BECAUSE I believe in gender dysphoria that I firmly will stand behind the SCIENTIFIC FACT that there are only two genders- and dismiss anyone who wants me to use a pronoun beyond male or female ones.

Honestly I don't think anyone else should encourage such exceptional behavior of gender specials and to accommodate their dumb pronouns is only hurting their friend and you're giving a fat middle finger to real faggy trannies
 
My answer is no.

When my cousin came out as a "transgender lesbian" I have submitted to so much as calling him by his first initial instead of his birth name or legal name and to try to avoid talking about him in a way that requires use of third-person pronouns to be polite, but this is a strain that I honestly think I shouldn't be put through. That it's him who's either mentally ill and in need of help he will categorically reject, or trying to get attention and sympathy in a way he can't otherwise.

A stranger or a regular friend? Heck no. If you pass well enough that I would be honestly fooled (a la Blaire White) I probably would use your preferred pronouns until I learned the truth. If I'm actually uncertain I'm likely to try to rework my sentences about you until I can ask you if you are male or female, and I will insist that in English a singular person's pronouns are the male ones unless specifically identified as a female.

And if you are a successfully passing "transwoman", there's no reason for me to know this unless one of us hits on the other.
 
Depends on the person and presentation. They/them doesn't bother me as much as you'd expect it to bother an English major, however.

On that front, I'm pretty chill. Even if I do call everyone son or dude when being sarcastic or playing a comedic angle and use "them" in the sense you'd speak of Communists or sci-fi monsters.
 
The only time you are going to refer to someone by pronoun is going to be when you talk about them and not directly to them. That's either talking behind someone's back or talking among a group -- most of the time that will be done in real life, not online where most discussions with these kids will take place. I don't know why it needs to be such an introductory element.
 
I am willing to call someone he or she depending on which they prefer. Use of "they" weirds me out a little and I prefer not to use it. Anything else, like "xhi", "xir" or some bullshit, I'm not doing that. I draw the line at pronouns that make the person sound like an extraterrestrial being. One would have to be pretty mentally disturbed to insist on being referred to that way, anyway.
 
I will use reasonable pronouns (she/he) for reasonable people, ie ftms and mtfs that make an sttempt to pass and aren't just trying to get oppression points or some other alternative motive.

I've used gay on occassion but it's hard to use and not natrual to speak. I don't use it unless i don't know someones gender.
 
Generally, I like to think I'm a nice person, and I try to do the whole "Golden Rule", live and let live, and shit. So if you ask me to use "he or she" , I really don't care, it's not hurting me. (At least with legit, making an effort trans individuals, not people who go about it all half-assed like Chris).
"They", eeeeh, I might think you're a wee bit pretentious, but again, it's no skin off my ass. It's one of those things that's really not worth making a big deal over. (I do reserve the right to laugh at you behind your back.)

Zhe/zhir, I don't even know what the fuck that MEANS. I don't think I could use that with a straight face.
 
If I'm asked to use either he/she then I'll do it as long as I don't get some autistic shitfit when I mess up now and then. I don't really believe in the idea of a dude becoming a chick or vice versa so as long as I'm not asked to change my mind on that I'll do something simple like that for someone. Nobody has ever asked me to use ze/zer/they/whatever yet though. If I were asked to address someone like that I'd probably stop talking to them all together. That shit is just too retarded for me.
 
Interesting question! I personally would use pronouns if he or she wasn't an asshole about it and was serious about passing and transitioning. I would be lying though if I said I'd openly use they/them pronouns. You can tell if someone is trans if they are diagnosed with gender dysphoria - as far as I know, so far there is nothing that can scientifically/medically prove the existence of non-binary genders . Until non-binary gender is somehow scientifically/medically proven to exist, I just can't bring myself to use they/them pronouns. However again, if the person wasn't an asshole about it and they actually tried to look androgynous, then I'd try my best to make an exception. Xe, xir, and whatever the hell those things are are going to be thrown out the window, though.
 
Today I spotted the first instance I've ever seen of somebody including their preferred pronouns on their work-related, professional email signature. Not even a genderspecial; I googled his name and organization and he's just some cis black dude with a normie LinkedIn profile and no Twitter feed that I could find. Is this a normal thing now?
 
I'm probably gonna call then by their biological sex or mockingly call them "it".

If it's somebody I find worthy of respect (pretty much anybody who acts like a rational adult and isn't some insane special snowflake SJW tranny) then I'll try to use the pronoun they want, if they start chimping out they're going back to getting refered to by their biological sex.

But the only people I'm aware of are insane trannies. Maybe people who aren't obnoxious special snowflake shit bags keep to themselves and don't base their entire identity on being trans/feminist/whatever.

If you just feel more like a man/woman and that's how you see yourself then good for you. If you think everyone else has to share your views and has to see you as the gender you want to be that's where we have a problem.
 
i'm part of the lgbt community myself, but despite this i find they/them pronouns to be slightly weird-sounding, but could work i guess? and neopronouns to be completely and absolutely absurd. i will try and comply to their request, knowing what possible emotional turmoil they're going through, but if they aren't even trying to pass as their preferred gender i won't. that's my stance on this.
 
It's a no from me.

I got it drilled into my head fairly young that "he or she" should be used when referring to a person whose sex you don't know and "they" should only be used for the collective, so that's out of the question.

I've always found the paradox of "Ask me my pronouns!" and "Don't ask people their pronouns because they'll be sad you pegged them as a gender deviant" to be particularly hilarious. There's no right answer with these people. As far as I'm concerned, I'll just go with my gut. If it turns out I'm actually wrong and I called a masculine a chick a "he", I'll apologize profusely and correct myself. If I guessed someone's sex accurately but they're sad or angry about it, they need therapy.

TLDR: Sex isn't changeable and the language others use to refer to you is their own decision.

I do have an exception to the "they" rule, though.
Ironically, I only use "they" and "them" in a singular sense to refer to my gay male mtf friend when he's around out of respect. He doesn't pass well and it would be totally unnatural to call him a "she" ever, but I feel bad for him. It seems like he really hates being gay and he's willing to harm himself in all sorts of weird ways to make himself "straight". It's fucked up how the medical world is enabling this shit, but I wouldn't want to make him feel worse by telling him how I feel or announcing that I still consider him a gay guy.
 
Personally I'm mixed on this. I've got a close friend who is trans and I always call him "he/him" and by his male name. Because he's a cool a dude and respects me, and also isn't the stereotypical trans person who gets offended by anything.
Any genderqueer friends I have that go by "they/them" I'll respectfully use their pronoun. (Unless they're assholes) But THAT'S it. I won't use any other because the rest sound dumb as fuck and sound like stupid trends or people desperately trying not to be straight.
.....That said- if people on Tumblr claim to be he or they and they don't put effort into passing, then no. I won't respect them and I'll judge them.
 
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My sister is in this odd phase of wanting to be referred to as a man. Sat her down and told her, "Do what you feel is right to you, but understand that you'll always be my sister, no matter what you look like, say or do."

I call her by her name in public, but she knows that I'm not going to walk up and say "Hello sibling!" I could care less what she sees herself as. That's not my business. It won't change who she is to me. I love and respect her, she knows this and that's what truely matters.

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Met a person on discord. They are a man. They have a man's voice. I called them a he. They corrected me saying they'd preferred to be called she/her. Responded "k" and moved on.

Don't know them well enough to care what they want to be called. I'll call them whatever they want to be called. Don't care what genitalia they claim to want/have.

This whole pronoun thing is just stupid. The only ones who are effected this are the ones that are creating the effect of sexualizing a term in the first place. You are you. It shouldn't be an insult to be called a man/woman/boy/girl/sir/madam/dude/chick no matter who you are. You are you, and words won't change that. Stop giving a sh*t about the pronouns.

Unless you want to f*ck a person, your genitals and your sexual preference/orientation/whatever DO NOT MATTER. You should never be treated differently because of what was just mentioned on any non-personal terms. Again, unless you're trying to get into another person's pants, no one cares nor should care what you call yourself.

It. Does. Not. Matter.
 
Yeah, sure, whatever. As long as it's not some neopronoun bullshit (if only because my tiny brain cannot remember them), I'm fine with it.

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Today I spotted the first instance I've ever seen of somebody including their preferred pronouns on their work-related, professional email signature. Not even a genderspecial; I googled his name and organization and he's just some cis black dude with a normie LinkedIn profile and no Twitter feed that I could find. Is this a normal thing now?
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It is, mostly because of more vocal LGBT+ activists demanding you put your "preferred pronouns" on everything, even if you're not trans. Better rev up those pronouns, lads!
 
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