Outdoor cat hysteria: the birdocaust

[Hongourable Madisha]

Cats do not like being in heat
Cats do not like hunting
Cats like staying inside and sleeping. The thing is us humans understand that if we repeatedly do something, that means we want to do it. For cats, it’s not that, they feel an obligation/responsibility to do it. If a cat had his way, he’d just sleep and eat all day.

When you’re a cat owner it’s important to distinguish between what they want to do and what they feel like they have to do.

They're also prone to pyometria when they're old if they're not spayed.

Dogs and cats communicate differently… But similarly in some ways. Cats see aggressive sniffing as a sign of aggression, whilst dogs see it as friendly curiosity. They both see licking as affectionate luckily, so they can usually get along with that.

I think she was being aggressive but not actually violent, she was swiping at the puppy but she had her claws retracted, so she just wanted to give it a light smack. We roughhouse with her (she's a big cat and likes to wrestle) and she beats up her toys, so she does like to play roughly, but I'm not sure how much the puppy would tolerate, and I didn't want to risk her escalating to actually hurting it.

Cats make weird ass noises, my favorite is the “Nooo no no no no…” one they make when upset

I like the "HaaaooooooooOWWW???!" noise they make to announce they've caught something. For some reason my cat steals cleaning sponges and sings that noise as if she's killed it.

eta: they do like hunting for fun, the little psychopaths, but they don't like having to hunt for all their food (strays usually scavenge more than hunt). Hence they like to catch things alive and let them loose so they can chase and maim them for a while longer. Technically my cat has a negative mousing record because she's brought more mice in alive to play with (and then got bored and left them to run around) than she has actually successfully killed.
If they aren't played with enough or don't have toys to simulate hunting, they'll chase people (or animals that they shouldn't chase) to amuse themselves. When my cat was younger she'd ambush me on the stairs and grab onto my feet, biting and scratching, and we had to teach her not to do that - part of that was scolding her and slowly pushing my foot back into her (not like kicking her or sending her flying, just pushing into the grapple instead of pulling away, which makes them chase more), but mostly it involved playing games with her, like wrestling, football, tug-of-war, fetch etc until she was tired out and wanted to go back to eating and sleeping for the rest of the day. Now she's old she does like to sleep and eat all day, but she still gets the urge for violence sometimes and that's when we get her toys out. Even though she's more interested in cleaning sponges and crap in the recycling bin than her actual toys. No idea why, she's just weird.

 

[A serious hat]

Idk I have a cat that we found as a tiny kitten and she goes outside. I’m not a cat person but she’s ok for the most part. I don’t like that she eats lizards and she did catch a bird the other day and my husband had to go rescue it from her (the bird was fine), but I don’t figure she’s any worse than the feral cat colonies around here, I have no control over those whatsoever and I don’t like the possibility of her killing things but she spends most of her time inside now.

She won’t ever be a full on inside cat because she wasn’t born that way and frankly I missed the window to make her into one (if such a thing is even possible). Also I have never had a cat before and wouldn’t have one now if she hadn’t shown up and my kids didn’t beg to keep her. I knew nothing about them, I’ve done lots of research since to try and do my duty to this little creature under my care, and I do try to keep an eye on her when she goes outside to hopefully head off any bird killing that may occur (same for the lizards but that’s not as easy to do).

I figure it’s all I realistically can do.

 

[Aborted Drink Combo]

I enjoy feeding the birds, and keep an outdoor fish pond for 6 months of the year. If one of the fish gets scooped up by a wild animal (I have seen owls and a stoat at the pond before) that's fine, it's fair game. If a cat comes into my yard and thinks it can shit in my garden or try to eat one of my fish, I'm going to trap it and take it to the pound 45 minutes just to make it inconvenient for you to get it back because fuck you.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Cat lovers are literally subhuman. All farewell cats should be shot.

 

[Justwandering02]

Toxoplasmosis hands typed this post.

In all seriousness, I'm genuine about the crazy cat lady I put up with. Her place makes 14 Branchland Court look spotless, workers for boiler repairs and so on have outright refused to enter her home on grounds of it being a health hazard with how filthy it is (said workers told us this). Indoor cats I'm fine with, but having to put up with aggressive and feral as shit outdoor cats for years because of a filthy fat retard who steals tons of them and makes them go feral has massively soured my opinion on outdoor cats in general. In a way it's kinda like having a violent pavement ape for a neighbour - it colours your opinion on blacks in general in the future due to the continuous bad experiences.

Did you try to call social service or animal protection service on her?

The “billions and billions” number was extrapolated from a minuscule amount of research looking at the hunting habits of a handful of outdoor cats for like a month in one English village. There are roughly 10 to 20 billion individual birds in all of North America. If domestic cats kill 3.7 billion birds annually, then apparently they can decimate an entire continent’s population worth of them every couple of years. By some miracle birds haven’t gone completely extinct despite this.

This headline gets so much traction partly because many birders are, for whatever reason, a bunch of massive spergs. Christian Cooper of “Central Park Karen” infamy is a good example of how entitled these retards feel to harass random pet owners (not even dogs are not safe from the birdstapo).

What I heard about the extremely short life span estimate on outdoor cat, they used feral cat only and used the average.
You know feral cat with their high infant mortality probably screwed the life span number just like how we got 'average' lifespan of 30 in the medieval age

https://ccah.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/sites/g/files/dgvnsk4586/files/inline-files/CCAH_Update_Newsletter_Spring_23_web.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

[evrae]

Did you try to call social service or animal protection service on her?

Oh yeah, we have. Only recently the council finally gave a shit to send an inspector over (it's probably because we now own our home, so we can reasonably threaten lawsuits due to vermin caused by her because muh property value, I think).

Whole front and back garden got cleaned (by the council, so by proxy I'm paying for this shit as a taxpayer), and immediately after they started trashing it again, plus the council falsely claimed we were spying and taking photos with door numbers visible and such. Only photos we ever took were the ones we originally sent to the council showing only their front and back garden, no visible details of home numbers or the like (we knew they'd try that).

Social services don't give a shit either. This is England after all, they're more focused on raping little girls with their Muslim friends, as demonstrated by the report about the rape gangs.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

Dogs were bred for the same thing and I don't see any complaints about it. Look up any video of dogs "ratting" and you'll see them having the time of their life killing for fun in the same way cats do.

Somewhat late, but in most Western countries if your dog injures or kills a protected species, you're held liable for the harm caused since you're deemed to be legally responsible for the dog, and this can involve lengthy prison sentences depending on the species involved and how negligent you were in keeping your dog under control.
Likewise, If you have non-protected wild species like rats, feral hogs or foxes killing protected species, you can put down traps or poison to deal with them since they're wild animals. Hell, for certain invasive species, if you end up trapping one you're required by law to kill the animal, releasing the animal is itself a crime.
However, cats are simultaneously a "wild animal" and "someone's property" at the same time, meaning the owner's not legally liable for the cat's actions, but in most cases you also can't trap or kill the cat either.

It's the same reason why if someone has a dog that's out-of-control and mauls someone, the owner can get a lengthy prison sentence and the dog will almost always be put down, while as if your cat injures someone you're likely to face zero legal repercussions and it's unlikely the cat'll get put down. Granted, the only people that are going to be seriously injured by a cat are either extremely young, very old, or severely infirm, but the point about legal repercussions still stands.

 

[Lime]

Feral cats are a nuisance. And they end up dead over the winter unless you have a resident crazy cat lady spending hundreds of dollars to feed the local cat population. Domestic cats are fine. Barn cats are fine but feral cat populations explode and you start seeing dozens of dead cats from mutations or cats that are half dead from diseases roaming around.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Every. Single. Fucking. Shelter. demands that their cats have outside access. That includes inside cats and 14 year old kittens that are prime to be conditioned to either in or outdoor life.

No, they must all have outside access. At all cost. All those facebook posts about cats going missing? The torture of your cat not coming home? Seeing the neighbor's cat dead in a ditch? No, think of its health! It NEEDS to uhh.. lay in the grass!

Only thing worse is those who walk them on a leash. It's a half-life. Cats don't engage enough with the outside when they -are- outside. It's not like a dog that overconsumes wildlife and then needs a nap. Cats simply exist in nature and you're getting them halfway used to being there, only to shut it back in. And that's ignoring that one time it'll run off the leash and disappear forever.