Luigi Mangione Discussion Thread - Discuss, dissect and laugh at America's most handsome criminal and the mass hybristophilia he's inspired.

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What wil Luigi's fate be?


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I'm not a laywer, but admitting that you did something you're being put on trial for at all would be a pretty bad look for you as it would doom any chance of you getting a non guilty verdict, wouldn't it?
I'm no lawyer, but I don't think it will doom any chance of him getting a guilty verdict

I heard a story once of a guy who killed some asshole in his a small town where everybody hated the victim
The killer went to trial and the killer admitted to killing him
But then the jury said "nah, we don't think the guy killed him" (because everybody hated the guy, including the jury) and he walked away

The law is just a piece of paper. You can get away with any crime if the jury likes you enough and is aware of how the legal system works.
Not likely to happen, Luigi is probably fucked for life, but it's not impossible either
 
I can't remember any other time I've seen evidence suppressed because someone's rights were violated. Usually it's the judge acknowledging that your rights were indeed violated, but following up with "What are you going to do about it?"

I heard a story once of a guy who killed some asshole in his a small town where everybody hated the victim
Come on, you don't have anything better than "I heard a story once of something that happened in a small town"?
 
So he basically admited to doing the murder... tried to use EED as a defense, then retracted it?

I'm not a laywer, but admitting that you did something you're being put on trial for at all would be a pretty bad look for you as it would doom any chance of you getting a non guilty verdict, wouldn't it?
Well according to Reddit he'll get off from jury nullification, so evidence doesn't even matter to his supporters.

I can't remember any other time I've seen evidence suppressed because someone's rights were violated. Usually it's the judge acknowledging that your rights were indeed violated, but following up with "What are you going to do about it?"


Come on, you don't have anything better than "I heard a story once of something that happened in a small town"?
I've heard of something like that with Ken McElroy. He was an asshole to everyone and was murdered in front of a crowd of like fifty people. No one said anything to the police so no one was ever convicted for it.


I'm no lawyer, but I don't think it will doom any chance of him getting a guilty verdict

I heard a story once of a guy who killed some asshole in his a small town where everybody hated the victim
The killer went to trial and the killer admitted to killing him
But then the jury said "nah, we don't think the guy killed him" (because everybody hated the guy, including the jury) and he walked away

The law is just a piece of paper. You can get away with any crime if the jury likes you enough and is aware of how the legal system works.
Not likely to happen, Luigi is probably fucked for life, but it's not impossible either
Jury nullification only works if they get a jury to unanimously decide not guilty, which is extremely unlikely in any case. Even if they get one Luigi supporter on the jury, it'd just be a hung jury and the state would definitely retry him.
 
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Well according to Reddit he'll get off from jury nullification, so evidence doesn't even matter to his supporters.
His fans do so many mental gymnastics with the evidence. It's amazing. I understand questioning evidence , but some of the theories they come up with is mind blowing to me. I need to find someone who will make so many excuses for me like how luigi's fans do for him
 
Come on, you don't have anything better than "I heard a story once of something that happened in a small town"?
He might be referring to the Ken McElroy case where a local criminal is shot in his truck in broad daylight in front of a crowd but the case remains unsolved due to lack evidence. Obviously Mangione's case is remarkably different that they're simply not comparable.
 
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Come on, you don't have anything better than "I heard a story once of something that happened in a small town"?
I asked ChatGTP, so I wouldnt sound like a retard, and it said it was possible 🤷‍♂️
Just wanted to share because I thought it was an interesting story and I am contemptuous towards the government
 
I'm personally stunned. I'm with Joel on this one. What the fuck have KFA and co. been doing the last 18 months? What happened to the 1.5 million in simpbucks they collected? What defence can they put on now without the EED? Is this really the best team the Mangione family's money could buy?
I'm with Joel too. What HAS she been doing for 18 months? Her tactic was to delay so it would move the trial until the feds go first, which would mean he has a chance at dismissal of the state case, due to NY's double jeopardy laws. It's blatant as fuck and the judge sees right through it. In the document, he says you keep changing your excuses and the feds have already agreed the state goes first, so don't try me bitch. The Mangiones might as well have let him defend himself and pocketed the cash kek

She literally announced in court that her client was guilty only to withdraw that defence at the last moment :stress:
She could have withdrawn on the morning of the 16th if they weren't prepared to make a decision about EED, and none of this would have been revealed. I'm speechless at how she let it get out. Carro told her exactly what was gonna happen if she missed the deadline, and they even had an extra day due to Joel's fuckup with the BOP on Tuesday.

Plenty of experts had agreed that EED was the right course of action (including Keren herself before he hired her!) and either she or Weegee couldn't make the call. She squandered the opportunity in a sloppy attempt to delay the trial. Now the entire world knows for sure he did it and he's gonna argue he didn't, or argue some technicality. Good job, Karen. Maybe the Jews were right, she is a fed.

But then the jury said "nah, we don't think the guy killed him" (because everybody hated the guy, including the jury) and he walked away
Yeah that's jury nullification, and that's what a lot of the fanbase is banking on. Social media keyboard warriors are loud enough to make them think he has enough support to go free, but if you look back at the poll I posted yesterday, he was unfavorable in almost every demographic... and that was back in December 2024 when he was at top hype levels. 12 people agreeing that this particular murder was justified just isn't going to happen, even if they have grievances with health insurance. Mistrial is possible but I doubt he'll receive 2 or more mistrials.
 
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This begs the question - do you think Luigi was unhappy with the EED angle? We know he's vain as fuck and a massive egotist, and I doubt he was happy that his entire strategy was to say that he is a schizo that had a nigga moment. That being said, he was going along with it and clearly has undergone mental health treatment to some degree. Is Karen the ultimate grifter mommy? Did she really think she could get the trial delayed and let double jeopardy laws do the rest? The EED stuff was widely reported, so she's after massively tainting the jury pool with this after complaining about Joel doing the same thing by including the troonfesto in that motion last year. I'd pay good money to be a fly in his prison cell right now. If he wasn't blackpilled on women before this, he justifiably should be now!

I need to go to sleep lol but I screenshotted a bunch of retarded Plebbit reactions to this happening. As per usual, plebbitors are only beginning to see what nonas had clocked from the beginning. I also had a Trigger post planned but my schedule keeps getting fucked up with all this milk 😂
 
I don't get what there is to debate and it's open and shut. He did it. Was right? Who cares? This time maybe
This is KF, we laugh at retarded moids here. Post milk or GTFO.

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The Post spoke to a lawyer who says Weegee can still argue for emotional disturbance without the 250.10 notice, but he can’t introduce any psych evidence to back it up. I’m not sure what that would look like… “I had a good reason, trust me bro”?

But one experienced Big Apple defense attorney said Mangione could still use the eyebrow-raising tactic — just without providing any medical evidence that he has mental health issues.

“They are still perfectly free to pursue the defense of extreme emotional disturbance,” defense lawyer Ron Kuby told The Post Thursday.

Now, Mangione’s lawyers “cannot call any mental health experts to testify about his mental health,” are barred from showing jurors “any psychiatric or mental health records,” and “cannot introduce any evidence that talks about him having any psychiatric malady,” Kuby added.


This begs the question - do you think Luigi was unhappy with the EED angle?
Yes. I doubt he wants people to know that he’s got mental problems. I think they only withdrew to prevent the court from unsealing the details.
I'd pay good money to be a fly in his prison cell right now. If he wasn't blackpilled on women before this, he justifiably should be now!
kek. And we were so close to getting his Apology To Women like daddy Ted. Not all women, Weeg!
 
So he basically admited to doing the murder... tried to use EED as a defense, then retracted it?

I'm not a laywer, but admitting that you did something you're being put on trial for at all would be a pretty bad look for you as it would doom any chance of you getting a non guilty verdict, wouldn't it?
It's not the kind of thing that the jury is privy to or that can be brought up in court by the prosecution. In other words, it can add to our perception or the judge's perception of him as guilty (a given anyways), but it shouldn't play any role in what a jury eventually deliberates. At least, that's my recollection of how the law works.
 
I heard a story once of a guy who killed some asshole in his a small town where everybody hated the victim
The killer went to trial and the killer admitted to killing him
But then the jury said "nah, we don't think the guy killed him" (because everybody hated the guy, including the jury) and he walked away
If you want a great example of this, look up the story of Dude Lawson in Alabama in the 80s. Basically he was a total asshole who had a feud with another family; leader of the other family killed him in broad daylight, said he “needed killing” on the stand, and was acquitted by the jury in less than an hour. There is a great song written about this story by the Drive-By Truckers called “Decoration Day”, which is well worth a listen.

I don’t think that’s going to happen in Luigi’s case though because this case has been so politicized and is receiving so much media attention. He’s screwed.
 
I don’t think that’s going to happen in Luigi’s case though because this case has been so politicized and is receiving so much media attention. He’s screwed.
I wonder if he is going to ge the George Floyd treatment: acquitte due to mob reaction.
Of course, the current political climate is very different...
 
I wonder if he is going to ge the George Floyd treatment: acquitte due to mob reaction.
Of course, the current political climate is very different...
The difference was that Floyd died before he could be formally charged with anything, so the court of public opinion was the only court that could judge him. That won't be the case here unless Luigi ropes, at which point he'll likely be treated as a martyr. Won't be enough for them to make any kind of change, though. Nothing ever happens.
 
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