US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
Bit of a gamble to say that Joe used the federal government to spy on him. I don't think even his ardent supporters would disagree with the idea that Joe was doing anything more than being in the room at the times this went down.

What isn't gambling is saying he's a "perfect President". That's gonna derail coverage on him for a bit of a while, as usual.

Joe's signature is on the list of people demanding Flynn's unmasking. So yes, Biden is directly implicated.
 
I just asked this in the TDS thread, but this seems appropriate as well.

You think the DNC might prop up Biden and his VP and Cabinet picks to set up a government in exile in a country more friendly to the DNC then to the Trump Administration?

lol what cuntry would that be?
I don't imagine any country wanting to be directly involved in such clusterfuck as US civil war 2.0
 
lol what cuntry would that be?
I don't imagine any country wanting to be directly involved in such clusterfuck as US civil war 2.0

None of the countries that would dare -- mostly EU shitholes -- are in any position post-Pinko Pox to do so, no.

I do half expect Obama to vanish, though, especially if the more fringe claims about the illegal shit he got into are true.
 
Had a conversation with someone about Biden some time ago. It wasn't mind-numbing, by far, but what I found interesting was how the conversation went re: the Reade allegation. The person says that they had been sexually assaulted at some point, themselves, and I believe that, but the way she went about trying to dismantle the Reade allegation for herself was... off? It was kind of a kludge because we repeatedly went back and forth with the hypothetical of her being truthful, but:

  • She wanted to impugn her by pointing out that she hired a Republican lawyer that's donated to the Trump campaign (as if this matters for representation).
  • She tried to make a distinction between sexual assault and rape, seemingly downplayed sexual assault (likened it to an ass grab versus the forced penetration entailed in rape), and didn't acknowledge that there were states (e.g. Texas) that made no such distinction.
  • I had to tell her to let me finish as I explained why I could confirm that the allegation escalated to digital penetration, and then when she finally let me finish-- because she insisted otherwise-- she then talked about how the event allegedly happened in a usually crowded hall in the building and Biden wasn't one to stay late because he caught the train at 6.
  • She kept questioning why she brought it up now, even though many of the alleged sex harassment/assault cases against Trump are comparably distant, time-wise.
  • She also argued that, in the case that it happened, it was just one time and he may have given his life to God at any time afterwards or otherwise regretted it (I pointed out that he was always a self-avowed Catholic-- I didn't point out that he's pro-choice despite being a self-avowed Catholic).
  • When I got to explaining that the bigger criticism has less to do with the allegation and how it's being treated by Biden and those around him, especially in light of Biden's past words, she qualified what I paraphrased Biden saying about believing women first with "to her" (as in, the allegation is true to her), and then when I insisted that he said that we need to take the essence of the allegation as true, she made "the essence" be that "she was assaulted" as opposed to "she was assaulted by Joe Biden" before conjecturing that she could have been drunk and mistook her assaulter.

I think my biggest issue was that if you can throw up all this reasonable counter-evidence for her claim, then there's no point in permitting the possibility that he may have in fact assaulted her, or even that she was assaulted in the first place at the time that she was.

My biggest takeaway was that it's not a good time to be a Democrat.

She's 46 and he's 73. Are you numerically dyslexic?

We call that "dyscalculic".
 
I just asked this in the TDS thread, but this seems appropriate as well.

You think the DNC might prop up Biden and his VP and Cabinet picks to set up a government in exile in a country more friendly to the DNC then to the Trump Administration?
Do you live on Mars? It's a contentious election during a pandemic. This isn't Civil War 2 during World War III.
 
Oh my that Abrams clip. How embarrassing. If it was a gaff on Sleepy Joe, she'll be sunsetting on the plane with him. She'll campaign against him for doing that to her otherwise. If it was the DNC putting her in the her place she'll quiet down and have some concession position to run for.

If this was a hit piece by the DNC though... one of her staff will "leak" to the press about her obese Black woman entitlement chimp out afterwards to discredit her.


If we're really, REALLY lucky, we'll get worldstar cell phone footage of her going full sheboon tard rage.
 
Had a conversation with someone about Biden some time ago. It wasn't mind-numbing, by far, but what I found interesting was how the conversation went re: the Reade allegation. The person says that they had been sexually assaulted at some point, themselves, and I believe that, but the way she went about trying to dismantle the Reade allegation for herself was... off? It was kind of a kludge because we repeatedly went back and forth with the hypothetical of her being truthful, but:

  • She wanted to impugn her by pointing out that she hired a Republican lawyer that's donated to the Trump campaign (as if this matters for representation).
  • She tried to make a distinction between sexual assault and rape, seemingly downplayed sexual assault (likened it to an ass grab versus the forced penetration entailed in rape), and didn't acknowledge that there were states (e.g. Texas) that made no such distinction.
  • I had to tell her to let me finish as I explained why I could confirm that the allegation escalated to digital penetration, and then when she finally let me finish-- because she insisted otherwise-- she then talked about how the event allegedly happened in a usually crowded hall in the building and Biden wasn't one to stay late because he caught the train at 6.
  • She kept questioning why she brought it up now, even though many of the alleged sex harassment/assault cases against Trump are comparably distant, time-wise.
  • She also argued that, in the case that it happened, it was just one time and he may have given his life to God at any time afterwards or otherwise regretted it (I pointed out that he was always a self-avowed Catholic-- I didn't point out that he's pro-choice despite being a self-avowed Catholic).
  • When I got to explaining that the bigger criticism has less to do with the allegation and how it's being treated by Biden and those around him, especially in light of Biden's past words, she qualified what I paraphrased Biden saying about believing women first with "to her" (as in, the allegation is true to her), and then when I insisted that he said that we need to take the essence of the allegation as true, she made "the essence" be that "she was assaulted" as opposed to "she was assaulted by Joe Biden" before conjecturing that she could have been drunk and mistook her assaulter.

I think my biggest issue was that if you can throw up all this reasonable counter-evidence for her claim, then there's no point in permitting the possibility that he may have in fact assaulted her, or even that she was assaulted in the first place at the time that she was.

My biggest takeaway was that it's not a good time to be a Democrat.

This has been my take away also. It is getting to the point that I want to make a graph comparing Ford and Reade.

The lawyer one is very strange but I am guessing they are grabbing at straws to discredit Reade.

The rest of the arguments are excuses and deflections because Democrats don't want to admit that they made this problem. All of them suddenly forgot about the Pussyhats. That the circus around the Kavanaugh confirmation was political grandstanding. The Google doc that ruined people's lives.

No. No. The MeToo movement was a great thing. Until Joe Biden was targeted. You can practically see the smoke rise out of people's heads as their brains try to reconcile this. They know what is supposed to happen and it isn't happening.

Although it must be a good time to be a Bernie Bro. Yeah, your side is going to get trashed in the election but you at least know the establishment is as corrupt as you thought it was.
 
Although it must be a good time to be a Bernie Bro. Yeah, your side is going to get trashed in the election but you at least know the establishment is as corrupt as you thought it was.
A not-insignificant portion of the people who are pushing Tara Reade to the fore are actually people who were in the Bernie camp. A lot of them are unsurprisingly incredibly pissed off at their loser losing for the second time in a row, and they're venting that anger by driving this home against the Democrats in any way they can find.

I'm just enjoying it because this is the last scrap of anything resembling principals that the mainstream Left even had. They completely abandoned their anti-Big Business crusade when Occupy Wall Street collapsed and most of them defend mega-corporations now (It's a private company etc), they don't care about the environment anymore because they just scream Climate Change which means nothing, they've given up on pretending they're not racist because not only do most of them fucking detest white people, but if a minority crosses the line they'll straight-up start tossing racial slurs at them, they don't give a rat's ass about freedom because they openly embrace authoritarianism at the drop of a hat, and now Believe All Women and Me Too has just been thrown under a bus, all for the sake of politics.

Every decision they make is politically-driven. There's no standard, there's no principal, there's no morals, it's all politics and emotion all the way to the baseboards. Even if Joe Biden is completely innocent it doesn't even fucking matter anymore because so many of them openly declared that they'd vote for him even though they believe he's literally raped someone.
 
This has been my take away also. It is getting to the point that I want to make a graph comparing Ford and Reade.

The lawyer one is very strange but I am guessing they are grabbing at straws to discredit Reade.

The rest of the arguments are excuses and deflections because Democrats don't want to admit that they made this problem. All of them suddenly forgot about the Pussyhats. That the circus around the Kavanaugh confirmation was political grandstanding. The Google doc that ruined people's lives.

No. No. The MeToo movement was a great thing. Until Joe Biden was targeted. You can practically see the smoke rise out of people's heads as their brains try to reconcile this. They know what is supposed to happen and it isn't happening.

Although it must be a good time to be a Bernie Bro. Yeah, your side is going to get trashed in the election but you at least know the establishment is as corrupt as you thought it was.

The common wisdom going into 2016 was all either side had to do is pander to get 5% of the non-white vote, and they'd win. Trump realized he could just go for 5+% of the white vote and he'd also win. So he did, and he did.

Now, all Trump has to do is get 5% of Bernie's vote, or drive 5% of them to stay home out of disgust at Biden. Preferably both. Which is why Trump was playing up the "Bernie was SCREWED" thing. And that's paying dividends because BernieBros are helping the Tara Reade thing keep from getting memory holed.

And now you realize why Biden is still, in his few lucid moments, trying to court Bernie's base. He needs to mollify them somehow, but can't openly do it.

I think Trump's cautiously starting to go after Biden because it's plainly obvious that they're going to either replace or de facto replace him. I see two scenarios going forward -- Biden replaced, or Biden as figurehead. Both will result in Biden being used as a scapegoat in 2021 as to why the left doesn't REALLY have to do any reforming of their party or message, it was all BIDEN'S fault. Once Biden has a running mate, or it becomes obvious they're not replacing Biden, I think Trump will go on an offensive blitz that the left just isn't prepared for.

I did hear one horrifying prospect on Tim Pool's channel.

Clinton / Obama replacing Biden / Whoever. That is, Clinton with Obama as VP pick. Bernie's base would walk the fuck away, I imagine, but not all of them, and Obama brings with him every advantage Biden has and then some. No idea how Trump could win that particular clusterfuck.

The real question being -- Which one would kill the other and consolidate power first?
 
A not-insignificant portion of the people who are pushing Tara Reade to the fore are actually people who were in the Bernie camp. A lot of them are unsurprisingly incredibly pissed off at their loser losing for the second time in a row, and they're venting that anger by driving this home against the Democrats in any way they can find.

I'm just enjoying it because this is the last scrap of anything resembling principals that the mainstream Left even had. They completely abandoned their anti-Big Business crusade when Occupy Wall Street collapsed and most of them defend mega-corporations now (It's a private company etc), they don't care about the environment anymore because they just scream Climate Change which means nothing, they've given up on pretending they're not racist because not only do most of them fucking detest white people, but if a minority crosses the line they'll straight-up start tossing racial slurs at them, they don't give a rat's ass about freedom because they openly embrace authoritarianism at the drop of a hat, and now Believe All Women and Me Too has just been thrown under a bus, all for the sake of politics.

Every decision they make is politically-driven. There's no standard, there's no principal, there's no morals, it's all politics and emotion all the way to the baseboards. Even if Joe Biden is completely innocent it doesn't even fucking matter anymore because so many of them openly declared that they'd vote for him even though they believe he's literally raped someone.
The common wisdom going into 2016 was all either side had to do is pander to get 5% of the non-white vote, and they'd win. Trump realized he could just go for 5+% of the white vote and he'd also win. So he did, and he did.

Now, all Trump has to do is get 5% of Bernie's vote, or drive 5% of them to stay home out of disgust at Biden. Preferably both. Which is why Trump was playing up the "Bernie was SCREWED" thing. And that's paying dividends because BernieBros are helping the Tara Reade thing keep from getting memory holed.

And now you realize why Biden is still, in his few lucid moments, trying to court Bernie's base. He needs to mollify them somehow, but can't openly do it.

I think Trump's cautiously starting to go after Biden because it's plainly obvious that they're going to either replace or de facto replace him. I see two scenarios going forward -- Biden replaced, or Biden as figurehead. Both will result in Biden being used as a scapegoat in 2021 as to why the left doesn't REALLY have to do any reforming of their party or message, it was all BIDEN'S fault. Once Biden has a running mate, or it becomes obvious they're not replacing Biden, I think Trump will go on an offensive blitz that the left just isn't prepared for.

I did hear one horrifying prospect on Tim Pool's channel.

Clinton / Obama replacing Biden / Whoever. That is, Clinton with Obama as VP pick. Bernie's base would walk the fuck away, I imagine, but not all of them, and Obama brings with him every advantage Biden has and then some. No idea how Trump could win that particular clusterfuck.

The real question being -- Which one would kill the other and consolidate power first?

A moment of silence for anyone who seriously believed at any point that Bernie Sanders was going to actually challenge the establishment of the Democratic Party.



Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) predicted the “vast majority” of his supporters would vote for presumptive Democratic nominee former Vice President Joe Biden.

That was because President Donald Trump “is the most dangerous president in the modern history of this country,” accord to Sanders.

Host George Stephanopoulos asked, “Let’s talk about the campaign. Your former Campaign Manager Jeff Weaver put out a memo this week, where he warned Vice President Biden is falling far short with your supporters, that he’s going to need in November, is he right about that? And what does the vice president have to do about that?”

Sanders said, “Look, I think at the end of the day the vast majority of the people who voted for me, who supported me, will understand and do understand that Donald Trump is the most dangerous president in the modern history of this country. He’s a pathological liar. He’s a racist, and a sexist, a homophobe et cetera. At the end of day, I think they’ll be voting for Joe. But he has to say to those working-class people, I understand your situation, you know, I understand that you’re graduating college with tens and tens and tens of thousands of dollars in debt. I understand you don’t have any health insurance. You’re working at a job that’s paying 12 bucks an hour. We ought to raise that minimum wage to a living a wage. I understand that you’re concerned about not only the pandemic but climate change. Make sure the world comes together to address the existential threat. I understand that you’re concerned about the racism within our criminal justice system and our immigration system. So I think Joe and his staff understand that I think they’re going to reach out to our supporters and come up with agenda that speaks to the needs of working families, of young families, of minority communities.”
 
The common wisdom going into 2016 was all either side had to do is pander to get 5% of the non-white vote, and they'd win. Trump realized he could just go for 5+% of the white vote and he'd also win. So he did, and he did.

Now, all Trump has to do is get 5% of Bernie's vote, or drive 5% of them to stay home out of disgust at Biden. Preferably both. Which is why Trump was playing up the "Bernie was SCREWED" thing. And that's paying dividends because BernieBros are helping the Tara Reade thing keep from getting memory holed.

And now you realize why Biden is still, in his few lucid moments, trying to court Bernie's base. He needs to mollify them somehow, but can't openly do it.

I think Trump's cautiously starting to go after Biden because it's plainly obvious that they're going to either replace or de facto replace him. I see two scenarios going forward -- Biden replaced, or Biden as figurehead. Both will result in Biden being used as a scapegoat in 2021 as to why the left doesn't REALLY have to do any reforming of their party or message, it was all BIDEN'S fault. Once Biden has a running mate, or it becomes obvious they're not replacing Biden, I think Trump will go on an offensive blitz that the left just isn't prepared for.

I did hear one horrifying prospect on Tim Pool's channel.

Clinton / Obama replacing Biden / Whoever. That is, Clinton with Obama as VP pick. Bernie's base would walk the fuck away, I imagine, but not all of them, and Obama brings with him every advantage Biden has and then some. No idea how Trump could win that particular clusterfuck.

The real question being -- Which one would kill the other and consolidate power first?

If Beanie boy is legitimately presenting that, he's more exceptional than I've taken him at a glance. The former president running as Vice is a loophole that gets tottered out by the ignorant or willingly deceitful (or as fear mongering by the RNC). Vice President has to be someone eligible to run for the office of President, technically I guess a one term president could do that, but it'd be a weird circumstance.
 
A not-insignificant portion of the people who are pushing Tara Reade to the fore are actually people who were in the Bernie camp. A lot of them are unsurprisingly incredibly pissed off at their loser losing for the second time in a row, and they're venting that anger by driving this home against the Democrats in any way they can find.

I'm just enjoying it because this is the last scrap of anything resembling principals that the mainstream Left even had. They completely abandoned their anti-Big Business crusade when Occupy Wall Street collapsed and most of them defend mega-corporations now (It's a private company etc), they don't care about the environment anymore because they just scream Climate Change which means nothing, they've given up on pretending they're not racist because not only do most of them fucking detest white people, but if a minority crosses the line they'll straight-up start tossing racial slurs at them, they don't give a rat's ass about freedom because they openly embrace authoritarianism at the drop of a hat, and now Believe All Women and Me Too has just been thrown under a bus, all for the sake of politics.

Every decision they make is politically-driven. There's no standard, there's no principal, there's no morals, it's all politics and emotion all the way to the baseboards. Even if Joe Biden is completely innocent it doesn't even fucking matter anymore because so many of them openly declared that they'd vote for him even though they believe he's literally raped someone.

It must be terrifying for Democrats to watch the trap clang shut. That they are damned either way. Any conservative could have told them this is how this ends. That Trump has them foaming at the mouth so hard they destroyed themselves.


The common wisdom going into 2016 was all either side had to do is pander to get 5% of the non-white vote, and they'd win. Trump realized he could just go for 5+% of the white vote and he'd also win. So he did, and he did.

Now, all Trump has to do is get 5% of Bernie's vote, or drive 5% of them to stay home out of disgust at Biden. Preferably both. Which is why Trump was playing up the "Bernie was SCREWED" thing. And that's paying dividends because BernieBros are helping the Tara Reade thing keep from getting memory holed.

And now you realize why Biden is still, in his few lucid moments, trying to court Bernie's base. He needs to mollify them somehow, but can't openly do it.

I think Trump's cautiously starting to go after Biden because it's plainly obvious that they're going to either replace or de facto replace him. I see two scenarios going forward -- Biden replaced, or Biden as figurehead. Both will result in Biden being used as a scapegoat in 2021 as to why the left doesn't REALLY have to do any reforming of their party or message, it was all BIDEN'S fault. Once Biden has a running mate, or it becomes obvious they're not replacing Biden, I think Trump will go on an offensive blitz that the left just isn't prepared for.

I did hear one horrifying prospect on Tim Pool's channel.

Clinton / Obama replacing Biden / Whoever. That is, Clinton with Obama as VP pick. Bernie's base would walk the fuck away, I imagine, but not all of them, and Obama brings with him every advantage Biden has and then some. No idea how Trump could win that particular clusterfuck.

The real question being -- Which one would kill the other and consolidate power first?

I think they will keep Biden otherwise it is clear that the Primaries are just window dressing to the DNC selection process.

Trump doesn't have to go after Biden too hard because Biden will fall apart on his own. Historians will look back at the Democrats choosing Biden as "The Republicans chose a reality TV star so we ran a man with Alzheimer's. Who is crazy now Motherfuckers!?"

If Beanie boy is legitimately presenting that, he's more exceptional than I've taken him at a glance. The former president running as Vice is a loophole that gets tottered out by the ignorant or willingly deceitful (or as fear mongering by the RNC). Vice President has to be someone eligible to run for the office of President, technically I guess a one term president could do that, but it'd be a weird circumstance.

I think that was just wild speculation. It would be a wild hail Mary to even attempt it. I could see Clinton running again though.
 
If Beanie boy is legitimately presenting that, he's more exceptional than I've taken him at a glance. The former president running as Vice is a loophole that gets tottered out by the ignorant or willingly deceitful (or as fear mongering by the RNC). Vice President has to be someone eligible to run for the office of President, technically I guess a one term president could do that, but it'd be a weird circumstance.
Maybe he meant Michelle Obama?
 
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