Doctor Who salt - However it regenerates. people will be mad.

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SnowBall powiedział(a):
I love how people on Twitter are going "little girls have someone to look up to now in TV! This is important!" I highly doubt little kids give a shit who the Doctor is regardless of gender.
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They care about as much as they care about Rey not being a pack-in Monopoly piece. Which is care level -9000.

I don't remember my niece and nephew or their friends (around age 11-14) going on and on about Dr Who. I don't think they even know what the show is. They all watch anime.

The fandom is acting like female sci fi characters just started existing with this announcement. Just like how they claim there are no precious Pee OH Cees on TV when there are tons. What do they want? Every production to consist of 100% black, transsexual lesbian women?

Why am I even questioning that?:surprised:

Terrorist powiedział(a):
20 bucks says they shoehorn in some gratuitous lesbianism once ratings start to dip. these days you gotta have that girl-on-girl if you want your nerd shit to succeed.

i don't see why anyone would give a fuck about a girl doctor who, anti-sjw twitter caring more about this than actual poz in the real world confirms they are manbaby cuck faggots
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Given the amount of salt about how the Doctor is white and not a precious POC they may feel the need to do this in order to appeal to the REEEEEing. This will cause more problems at regeneration time though. Especially if the Doctor is a guy again. Although now tumblr is claiming this officially makes the Doctor trans or genderfluid. If there's a 14th and it's a man they might say "And he's totally a transboy!"
And then here comes horrible tumblr art of him with a binder and a vagina. Although I'm sure it exists for other Doctors anyway. But not Peter Capaldi because he's old and the fangirls just want husbandos.

Now if the 14th doctor is POC does that equal blackface? Transracial? This really does put them in a precarious position if a 14th Doctor comes to be. There will be rivers of salt regardless of who is chosen. They painted themselves into a corner that should never have been painted. Although it sure is amusing for non-fans to watch.

I watched the show on PBS as a kid. But I could not get into the new one. I watched a few with David Tennant. But it didn't feel the same to me. So I just lost interest. Seeing stuff like that on PBS was a real treat because my grandparents did not have cable until everyone and their pet goldfish already did for years. So it was something interesting that a kid could watch on Sunday that wasn't golf, tennis or hours of boring newscasts. But I don't know if I just grew out or it or didn't like it in its current incarnation. But the excitement waned so fast.

What was amusing was seeing tumblr go crazy because some of them didn't really grasp the concept of the Doctor regenerating. Now their precious husbando David Tennant was gone. It was also funny when Peter Capaldi came aboard because he was old and they couldn't get off to that. I didn't watch it at that point. So I don't know if the writing quality was the problem or if Capaldi not being of proper husbando age was the real issue. I heard the writing was pretty bad though.
 
CWCissey powiedział(a):
You wouldn't want to see Emma Watson and Kiera Knightley pash?
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Not really a fan of Watson, she is just so...

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Can't unsee. Knightley is pretty, that's true. She could be the new doctor and take Rose Tyler for a spin! That would surely teach all those dudebros how to appreciate women!
 
Dysnomia powiedział(a):
The fandom is acting like female sci fi characters just started existing with this announcement.
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I hate it when shows and stuff act like having strong female characters makes them special and unique or groundbreaking. It isn't groundbreaking, you are writing a standard character. Stop thinking you'll get a cookie for doing your fucking jobs. I don't mind characters of any identity but that doesn't make them special. If people want more black/gay/transsexual ect character, then these characters need to come naturally, not made so middle class twat biscuits can feel good about themselves and pretend they are saving the world.
 
I said it before. This is the perfect time to bring back Romana.

Yeah, we could have Romana, the Rani, Missy, and the Doctor.

And Romana laments that the whole Gallifreyan race has been reduced to three catty bitches and the only sane woman.
 
Former Doctor salt at Comic-Con. (http://archive.is/295IV)

Colin Baker slams Peter Davison’s comments about female Doctor Who as ‘absolute rubbish'

A RIFT has formed between former Doctors with Colin Baker accusing Peter Davison of talking “absolute rubbish” after he claimed boys would lose a role model with a female Time Lord.

Baker, 74, has long championed a woman taking over the role for the first time and has been celebrating since Jodie Whittaker's selection.

Speaking before an appearance at Comic-Con in San Diego, the men displayed divergent moods.

Davison, the fifth Doctor, said Whittaker is a “terrific actress” who will do “wonderful job” and hopes those who find it hard to adjust watch “with an open mind”.

But Davison, 66, said: “If I feel any doubts, it's the loss of a role model for boys who I think Doctor Who is vitally important for.

“So I feel a bit sad about that, but I understand the argument that you need to open it up.

“As a viewer, I kind of like the idea of the Doctor as a boy but then maybe I'm an old fashioned dinosaur, who knows?”

Baker, who has four daughters, previously called the decision to select a woman after 12 men in the role “brave and game-changing casting”.

The sixth Time Lord bluntly disagreed with Davison.
“They've had 50 years of having a role model. So sorry Peter, you're talking rubbish there - absolute rubbish,” he said.

“Well you don't have to be of a gender of someone to be a role model. Can't you be a role model as people?”

Baker also said that he hopes to see a non-white Doctor in the future and that the series should look to America where he feels casting is less dependent on colour.

“They see a future world where that is irrelevant and it's perhaps time Doctor Who and its fans did too,” he added.

The announcement on Sunday that the Broadchurch star, 35, would take the helm of the Tardis was also met with praise from the outgoing Doctor, Peter Capaldi.
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Some Quality Journalism™ from The Hollywood Reporter. (http://archive.fo/4mYgw)

'Doctor Who' Boss Says "Shut the Hell Up" About Female Star Backlash

The headline implies that Moffat was talking to those against a female Doctor, when in the actual quote he was telling journalists to shut up.

"There has been so many press articles about a backlash among the Doctor Who fandom about casting a female Doctor," Moffat said. "There has been no backlash at all. The story of the moment is that the notionally conservative Doctor Who fandom has utterly embraced that change completely. Eighty percent approval on social media, not that I check these things obsessively. So many people wanting to pretend there is a problem. There isn't. It's been incredibly progressive and enlightened and that's what really happened. I wish every other journalist who is writing the alternative would shut the hell up."
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Then Chris Hardwick (Nerdist.com) did the opposite and called people assholes.

Moderator Chris Hardwick called anyone complaining about Whittaker's casting an "asshole" and "not a real fan of the show if you don't accept this." The thousands of fans gathered in Hall H erupted in cheers and applause.
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Oh my fucking God Chris. You'd think after Feig cut himself on his own sword of stupidity other people would be more wary in calling their audiences assholes. You don't think people didn't complain about Peter's casting (Both of them), Baker's casting (Both of them). Jesus don't people ever learn that you don't insult your audience if you want your product to stay in business.

Moffat knows what's up and he's handling it remarkable well judging by the extract. Journalists just want to push a "poor woman hated by the entire world," narrative, while ignoring all the other doctor actors have/had people who don't/didn't like them.
 
The Valeyard powiedział(a):
Some Quality Journalism™ from The Hollywood Reporter. (http://archive.fo/4mYgw)

'Doctor Who' Boss Says "Shut the Hell Up" About Female Star Backlash

The headline implies that Moffat was talking to those against a female Doctor, when in the actual quote he was telling journalists to shut up.



Then Chris Hardwick (Nerdist.com) did the opposite and called people assholes.
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Y'know, even for all the stick I've given Steven Moffat (some of which I still think was justified), my respect for him just went up.
 
The Valeyard powiedział(a):
Some Quality Journalism™ from The Hollywood Reporter. (http://archive.fo/4mYgw)

'Doctor Who' Boss Says "Shut the Hell Up" About Female Star Backlash

The headline implies that Moffat was talking to those against a female Doctor, when in the actual quote he was telling journalists to shut up.



Then Chris Hardwick (Nerdist.com) did the opposite and called people assholes.
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And then this fucking article called it gaslighting:

https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/steven-moffat-jodie-whittacker-backlash-doctor/

Steven Moffat gaslights ‘Doctor Who’ fandom by saying there’s no casting controversy

The casting of a female Doctor on the long-running British sci-fi series Doctor Who inevitably resulted in some sexist backlash—something one executive on the series is handling by pretending it didn’t happen.

“There’s been no backlash at all,” announced Doctor Who showrunner Steven Moffat, commenting on Jodie Whittaker being cast as the Doctor. “I wish every single journalist who is writing the alternative would shut the hell up.”

Unfortunate news, Steven. Nobody is going to shut up.

Speaking to a crowd at San Diego Comic-Con, Moffat insisted, “There has been so many press articles about a backlash among the Doctor Who fandom about casting a female Doctor. There has been no backlash at all. The story of the moment is that the notionally conservative Doctor Who fandom has utterly embraced that change completely.”

This is a pretty wild suggestion, given that even one of the former Doctors publicly expressed doubts about the casting choice. Peter Davison, the fifth Doctor, described the idea of a female Doctor as “a loss of a role model for boys,” although Colin Baker, the sixth Doctor, labeled this opinion as “absolute rubbish.”

Elsewhere, there has indeed been sexist backlash to Jodie Whittaker’s casting. Two British tabloids responded by publishing nude photos of the actress, and we’ve seen plenty of misogynist nonsense online. It took about 30 seconds to find someone posting a “Dr. Whore” meme in response to one of the Daily Dot’s own articles about the Jodie Whittaker announcement, for example. There’s a longstanding contingent of Doctor Who fans who hate the idea of a woman Doctor, and Moffat himself is no stranger to sexist remarks.

By saying there’s “no backlash,” Moffat belittles the reality of sexism in geek culture. That being said, the response to Whittaker’s casting has generally been positive. If you search “female Doctor Who” on social media, you’ll find more people making fun of sexist comments than making actual sexist comments themselves. It seems like a similar situation to the white supremacist Star Wars boycott, which failed spectacularly. So while that sexist backlash does exist, we expect the new Doctor to be just as popular as her male counterparts.
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