Debate who's really at fault in the UK Grooming Gang scandal.

[Illuminati Order Official]

Without Hitler, Communism would have swallowed western Europe, as it did in the east.

No, it would have swallowed Europe because of Hitler, if not for Americans landing in Normandy and meeting Soviets half-way through in Germany. Soviets already tried to advance to the west in 1920s and couldn't even reach Germany but now Europe was weakened by over five years of war and if France wasn't liberated by the US, nothing would stop Soviets from "liberating" France and Spain, effectively conquering entire Europe.
Hitler lost the war the moment Barbarossa failed, the rest was just slow agony.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Whenever I see "Yeah, muslims, maybe, but actually da joos!" or "Yeah, muslims, maybe, but actually da whamen" I suspect I'm dealing with a brown, or a low IQ white indoctrinated by browns on social media.
Islam is the problem, islam must be destroyed, muslims must be converted or eliminated.


We can't ban it, we need to read it to learn how vile it is. Real life Necronomicon if Necronomicon was written by a pedophile retard.

The problem is the communists and authoritarian progressives. Muslims are just the dick they're raping you with. IF you can ever deal with the Muslims, the people that facilitated the invasion will still be in positions of power and will fuck you twice as hard next time. You're blaming the dog and not the nigger that refuses to keep it on a leash.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

The problem is the communists and authoritarian progressives. Muslims are just the dick they're raping you with. IF you can ever deal with the Muslims, the people that facilitated the invasion will still be in positions of power and will fuck you twice as hard next time.

Even if we consider muslims to be a tool without its own agenda, it's a tool in enemy's hand and destroying it still improving our situation. Still, I think it's the progressives who are being cucked here and they would be the first to be persecuted if islams gains any more ground in the West.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Even if we consider muslims to be a tool without its own agenda, it's a tool in enemy's hand and destroying it still improving our situation. Still, I think it's the progressives who are being cucked here and they would be the first to be persecuted if islams gains any more ground in the West.

I'm not saying they're mindless drones. Their goal is a religious crusade across the world. That crusade hasn't been a problem for the most part since the advent of rifling. It is only a problem now because your countrymen have opened the gates and invited them in.

One ceases being a threat without the other. If we Westerners want the Muslim world to die we just need to stop supporting it.

 

[>IMPLYING]

And again, looking at the man's social theories, Hitler would've definitely favored Muslim domination

Not really. Muslims by and large are not Aryan because their cultures are largely hodgepodge. Turkey wouldn't qualify as Aryan because they borrow heavily from non-Turkic cultures, namely Greek, Bedouin, etc.

Spoiler: Completely off-topic diatribe about Mein Kampf

Hitler described 3 groups:
Aryans (creators of culture)
Non-Aryans (bearers of culture)
And Destroyers of Culture.
That last group is largely put on Marxists, Jews, etc—any group that seeks to "destroy culture" in Hitler's view.

I'd say any group with sought to erase the cultural identity of another group would get on Hitler's shitlist, which Muslims today would definitely earn a spot on given their propensity for destroying cultural artefacts, relics, and statues—even of their own faith, which Hitler considered a cardinal sin.

Subjugate =/= Destroy.
Collaboration with lesser people's is necessary to ascend higher, basically.


Since Muslims seek to erase other cultures and faiths, and are "intolerant," they cannot be Aryan because Aryan's are intrinsically tolerant.
I'm not making that up btw.


TLDR: Hitler would've hated Muslims for essentially the same reasons he hated Jews.

It was because of Hitler that half of Europe became Communist. If he worked with the Polish, British, and other Europeans instead, the Soviets would've been dealt with 50 years early.

He did want to ally with the English, but it can't be overstated how much of a fucking retard Ribbentrop was.
Anyway here's the part in the book where Hitler says it's necessary to ally England to win. (Foreshadowing)

 

[The Tall Man]

It was because of Hitler that half of Europe became Communist. If he worked with the Polish, British, and other Europeans instead, the Soviets would've been dealt with 50 years early. A combined assault from the Allies and Germany would've ended the Soviet threat before they got nukes.

And again, looking at the man's social theories, Hitler would've definitely favored Muslim domination. The only thing he'd change is the racial composition of these rape gangs; instead of Pakis and Arabs, you'd have Aryan Muslims taking whatever white girls they deemed breedable, by force.

Glad you are mad at Hitler or something, in a thread about Brown rapegangs in bongland.
You might not know this, but Hitler lost, he didn't import millions of Browns into England.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Glad you are mad at Hitler or something, in a thread about Brown rapegangs in bongland.
You might not know this, but Hitler lost, he didn't import millions of Browns into England.

He's half the reason the Left has such a cultural dominance in the first place. Also, had he won, you would've had him turn the Germans into the white equivalent of those Muslim rape gangs. The dude loved Islam and let Muslims serve in the SS.

Not to mention that I already explained why the British elites are importing brown Muslims into Britain: they reproduce, unlike the local whites who aren't as enthusiastic. The upper class need a strong, healthy populace to mooch labor and taxes from. They're more than happy to tolerate a few native working class girls getting screwed so long as they still have a working class down the road.

If these rape gangs dared to touch a child of the rich and powerful, the cops and soldiers would machine gun them before you can say "God save the Queen!"

 

[Ashkenazi Porn Actress]

The upper class need a strong, healthy populace to mooch labor and taxes from.

Pakistanis in the Yookay are overwhelmingly on welfare and have been for decades ever since the mills that imported them as scab labor went belly up. In general browns are massive net tax drains, this has been shown again and again when the subject is actually studied.

 

[The Tall Man]

He's half the reason the Left has such a cultural dominance in the first place. Also, had he won, you would've had him turn the Germans into the white equivalent of those Muslim rape gangs. The dude loved Islam and let Muslims serve in the SS.

Germans aren't natural rapists like Brown people. You are either retarded or Brown yourself.

Not to mention that I already explained why the British elites are importing brown Muslims into Britain: they reproduce, unlike the local whites who aren't as enthusiastic. They're more than happy to tolerate a few working class girls getting screwed so long as they still have a working class down the road.

So, you are saying it's White people's fault for having their daughters and boys raped for not breeding uncontrollably like these Browns?
>Well if those stupid Brits don't exponentially reproduce, to support the social security pyramid scheme Jewish Bankers introduced, then they deserve to have their children raped.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Germans aren't natural rapists like Brown people. You are either retarded or Brown yourself.

Pre-Christian Europe was. The idea that you can have as many women as you can take and keep was something the barbarians of the pagan world believed to be true. Hell, even the civilized Romans made women into second-class citizens, and in Sparta, if you can take a woman, she's yours.

Hitler wanted to reverse the Christianization of the West and make the European a primal creature once more, one who believes in might makes right, not the other way around, hence why he despised Christianity and praised Islam.

So, you are saying it's White people's fault for having their daughters and boys raped for not breeding uncontrollably like these Browns?

You really are too fucking stupid to figure out what I was saying, aren't you? I shouldn't be surprised.

What I'm saying is, it's the fault of the British upper class for looking at reproduction numbers alone and not giving a fuck about the needs of their own native people.

The reason why they don't give a fuck about their own people is because everything is a numbers game to them. Patriotism? Caring about your own race? Those are antiquated values to them. It's all about class and money to them. They are completely materialistic and have eschewed all values outside of material values.

So long as the British upper class are like that, there's no changing things. You can drive all the rape gangs into the ocean to drown, and the Brits would still be fucked because the rich people at the top see the people at the bottom as expendable assets, not as human beings.

Pakistanis in the Yookay are overwhelmingly on welfare and have been for decades ever since the mills that imported them as scab labor went belly up. In general browns are massive net tax drains, this has been shown again and again when the subject is actually studied.

The thing is, the elite are counting on them reproducing, not working. They're counting on children of migrants to be a large pool of manpower they can recruit from in the future.

If they just wanted hard workers, Chinese migrants would've sufficed.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Hitler wanted to reverse the Christianization of the West and make the European a primal creature once more, one who believes in might makes right, not the other way around, hence why he despised Christianity and praised Islam.

I think you're mixing up Evola with Hitler.

 

[The Tall Man]

Pre-Christian Europe was.

One of the oldest Germanic laws we still have records off has the death penalty for rape you idiot.

Hell, even the civilized Romans made women into second-class citizens

Rome also had exile or the death penalty for rape.

The reason you perceive Christians as anti-rape is because of the influence of European people on that religion.
Europeans being anti-rape is biological. It's their natural morals.

Hitler wanted to reverse the Christianization of the West and make the European a primal creature once more, one who believes in might makes right, not the other way around, hence why he despised Christianity and praised Islam.

This is complete nonsense. You can read what the SS was about spiritually and morally.
Hitler himself kept most of his believes private but he did appoint Himmler for a reason.
They wanted to go back to the native Germanic traditions and religions.
Those religions always valued women highly unlike the religions of Brown people.

And he does not praise Islam in the Table talks.
He says it's a shame Germans don't have a religion like the Japanese's Shinto, where the fatherland is holy. Then he says even Islam would have been better than Christianity. His reasoning is that Christianity is a bad religion because it preaches meekness and weakness.

You have to be really stupid to read this as "Islam is great."
Especially when you look at what Himmler did.

Nope. I'm saying, it's the fault of the British upper class for looking at reproduction numbers alone and not giving a fuck about the needs of their own people.

The reason why they don't give a fuck about their own people is because everything is a numbers game to them. Patriotism? Caring about your own race? Those are antiquated values to them.

They do know that these immigrants are a fiscal negative. There is no positive numbers game here.

They are just collaborators with Jewish interests who have had it as their goal for 2000 years to exterminate White people, which they call Edom. And it doesn't matter if the upper class traitors do it in the name of a philosophy like "Practical Idealism" by Kalergi some Christian globalism, their devotion to their Jewish masters or any other reason.
They are not so stupid as to not realize that they are eradicating the native European people.

The purpose of a System is what it does and this System is genociding native Europeans.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

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I think you're mixing up Evola with Hitler.

‘It’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion,” Hitler complained to his pet architect Albert Speer. “Why did it have to be Christianity, with its meekness and flabbiness?” Islam was a Männerreligion—a “religion of men”—and hygienic too. The “soldiers of Islam” received a warrior’s heaven, “a real earthly paradise” with “houris” and “wine flowing.” This, Hitler argued, was much more suited to the “Germanic temperament” than the “Jewish filth and priestly twaddle” of Christianity.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/book-review-ataturk-in-the-nazi-imagination-by-stefan-ihrig-and-islam-and-nazi-germanys-war-by-david-motadel-1421441724

Christianity was too Jewish for Hitler's tastes. There's the stuff he published which was the propaganda to keep German Christians obedient, and his own private opinions spoken to trusted men where he wished he and Germany were both Muslim.

One of the oldest Germanic laws we still have records off has the death penalty for rape you idiot.

Only for their own tribe. Rape of foreign women was A-OK.

Rome also had exile or the death penalty for rape.

Rome had literal sex slaves, so the death penalty only applies to Roman citizens. And not everyone was a Roman citizen.

The reason you perceive Christians as anti-rape is because of the influence of European people on that religion.
Europeans being anti-rape is biological. It's their natural morals.

Tell that to the Sabines.

This is complete nonsense. You can read what the SS was about spiritually and morally.
Hitler himself kept most of his believes private but he did appoint Himmler for a reason.
They wanted to go back to the native Germanic traditions and religions.
Those religions always valued women highly unlike the religions of Brown people.

Said traditions were closer to Islam than Christianity. Islam, Hitler claimed, was a warrior religion more fitting to the German temperament than the "meek and flabby" Christianity which Hitler condemned as Jewish.

They do know that these immigrants are a fiscal negative. There is no positive numbers game here.

It is nothing but a numbers game. If all they wanted was to kill white people, spiking the water with contraceptives to make all whites barren wouldve sufficed, without inviting Muslims who naturally hate Jews.

 

[F6F-5 "Hellcat"]

Glad you are mad at Hitler or something, in a thread about Brown rapegangs in bongland.
You might not know this, but Hitler lost, he didn't import millions of Browns into England.

but he did import millions of browns to camps in Germany and other German occupied areas. sooo

 

[The Tall Man]

Only for their own tribe. Rape of foreign women was A-OK.

Rome had literal sex slaves, so the death penalty only applies to Roman citizens. And not everyone was a Roman citizen.

This is wrong, rape was not seen as okay, but law did only strictly apply to citizens.

Your big argument is, that those heckin Europeans didn't extend their love, forgiveness, protections and laws to foreigners, in the thread about 'Brown people rape gangs raping White children in the UK.'
You are so right we need more love your neighbor and forgive your wrongdoer.
Makes you wonder why the NSDAP wasn't so keen on Christianity thing.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

but he did import millions of browns to camps in Germany and other German occupied areas. sooo

Not really imported, more like... concentrated them there.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

This is wrong, rape was not seen as okay, but law did only strictly apply to citizens.

As in, they're okay with other white people being used as fuckmeat so long as they were from a different tribe or weren't citizens.

Your big argument is, that those heckin Europeans didn't extend their love, forgiveness and laws to foreigners, in the thread about 'Brown people rape gangs raping white children in the UK.'

Not my argument, numbnuts. My argument is that you have this crisis in the first place because the British upper class don't care about Briton girls getting raped by migrant rape gangs, so long as the migrants keep a large population pool going.

I'm more than okay with taking all the rape gangs and driving them into the ocean to drown. But even if you get rid of the gangs, that is just step number 1. Step 2 is getting rid of the crass materialism and ignorance of the needs of the people which the upper class has in droves.

Makes you wonder why the NSDAP wasn't so keen on Christianity thing.

Well, at least you and I can agree on that. They pretty much just saw it as Jewish nonsense.

 

[regalterry]

He's half the reason the Left has such a cultural dominance in the first place. Also, had he won, you would've had him turn the Germans into the white equivalent of those Muslim rape gangs. The dude loved Islam and let Muslims serve in the SS.

You're so thoroughly brainwashed that even contemplating the idea immediately triggers the programming and you start inventing excuses for why it would be bad, with no evidence to support any of it.

Hitler lost the war, the opposing ideology won, and they proceeded to shape the modern world in accordance with their views and wishes, and this is now the world we, and all those girls that got raped, live in.

In a just world, this debacle should have been the final nail in the coffin of leftism/liberalism. I don't a more repulsive ideology has ever existed in the whole of human history, the adherents of it will happily stand by and let White girls be raped, tortured, murdered in the most brutal way imagined, and only ever direct their anger and violence against those that try to put a stop to it.

I guarantee you, if Germany had won, and Germany ruled over the continent, not only would these perpetrators, and their families, friends and acquaintances have been brutally murdered, but this travesty would not have happened in the first place as the whole of the subcontinent would still be a subjugated colony where the subhuman populace was worked to death, as is their lot in life.

Not to mention that I already explained why the British elites are importing brown Muslims into Britain: they reproduce, unlike the local whites who aren't as enthusiastic. The upper class need a strong, healthy populace to mooch labor and taxes from. They're more than happy to tolerate a few native working class girls getting screwed so long as they still have a working class down the road.

More Jewish brainwashing.

Whites don't reproduce because they are actively disincentivized by the system from doing so, and then the golems turn right around and clamour for mass migration to make up the difference. The goal is genocide of Whites. That's all there is to it.

Do you know which country put incredible amounts of resources and effort into raising White birth rates and largely succeeded? Do you want to take a guess?

so did starmer resign or nah

Hopefully he ropes himself, or someone does it for him.

Even among the vermin class of Western politicians he stands out as one of the chosen elites in sheer nastiness and moral failing.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I guarantee you, if Germany had won, and Germany ruled over the continent, not only would these perpetrators, and their families, friends and acquaintances have been brutally murdered, but this travesty would not have happened in the first place as the whole of the subcontinent would still be a subjugated colony where the subhuman populace was worked to death, as is their lot in life.

No. Instead you'd have white people doing the same thing these rape gangs are doing. Because Hitler saw the Christian ethos that shaped European civilization for over 1500 years by the time he came around as weak and flabby. These gangs are doing what they're doing because they believe in rule by the strong. That their God gives them the right to do it. And guess what? Hitler adored that shit. He adored Islam as a warrior's religion. He bemoaned that Germany was Christian, and wished instead that they were Muslims, because it had a warrior mentality.

And in a pure warrior mentality, unshackled by morals that Christianity brought in, you keep what you can seize. Be it gold, lands, slaves, or women. So if Hitler won, his ideal German civilization of German Muslims or Pagans would have no problems grabbing young European women that they deem "breedable", and they'd justify it by saying that she'd be doing her duty to the Aryan race. The ancient Spartans sure as hell had no problems with that method of thinking.

Whites don't reproduce because they are actively disincentivized by the system from doing so, and then the golems turn right around and clamour for mass migration to make up the difference. The goal is genocide of Whites. That's all there is to it.

Do you know which country put incredible amounts of resources and effort into raising White birth rates and largely succeeded? Do you want to take a guess?

Except it isn't just whites. People all across the more developed world, from China to Korea, to Japan and Europe, are all breeding less. Especially with rich people buying up property and raising the price, making it harder for poorer families to afford homes.

The same rich idiots who brought those migrants to your shores to begin with are also buying up property and making it harder for poorer people to afford homes. The fact that you morons focus too much on "hurr durr rape gangs" without looking at who's responsible for bringing them in AND making it harder for the natives to breed is what astounds me.

 

[TayTweets]

Not my argument, numbnuts. My argument is that you have this crisis in the first place because the British upper class don't care about Briton girls getting raped by migrant rape gangs, so long as the migrants keep a large population pool going.

What you're implying is that Europe would have been better off if the USSR has taken over the UK, Germany and France because the upper classes would have been dealt with and they wouldn't have imported nigger rape gangs.

You are making the case that communism was the better ideology for Europe. Not the far left insanity that took hold but real communism. Don't reply if you're going to have a burger meltdown because you can't tell the different between Stalin and Greta Thunberg.