DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups

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Zack Snyder is a teenage Superman fan. He likes Superman but would prefer if he dressed in all black, was brooding and serious. Basically, he wanted Speeding Bullet. James Gunn is a teenage Superman hater. He thinks Superman is a naïve idiot. Basically he wants Brightburn (which he produced).
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Zack Snyder played with action figures while on the pooper.

James Gunn played with action figures kids left in the sandpit at the park.
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I've seen Batman v Superman, I know what I want to do with Superman: make him a messianic figure. Does that prove Zack is truly a Superman fanboy? Obviously, yes. But why do you think James Gunn "hates" Superman? Maybe by making the suit more bland, reusing the cinematography from "The Flash," and being more interested in unknown characters—he even brought the Peace Maker from the dead Snyderverse into his "Gunnverse," and in the Superman movie, he was partly overshadowed by half the world... Yeah, it's pretty clear that Gunn doesn't like working on Superman.

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The execution aside. At least I got what Zack Snyder was trying to do with the DC characters he selected to start a shared universe with.
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Honestly, it makes me a little sad that the failed "Snyderverse" had a better presentation than this new universe. I mean, Man of Steel does a better job of giving us a "Paragon of greater scope" Superman than the rest. Zod's death didn't make much sense, but we've come from adaptations where Superman sends a radioactive man to the oven to make free electronic energy in "Superman for Peace." It's no surprise that continuities that tend to be short-lived don't have the freedom to leave the main villain of the moment because the movies have to wrap up that plot, it's that simple.
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iirc wasn't there a rando from Smallville who got incorporated into the comics? I recall at a con DiDio citing Jimmy from radio as a way to defend it
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It must be said, DC comics have benefited from their adaptations for better and for worse, although De is not going to have an unnecessary synergy with the films (not even the Snyderverse dared to do that idiocy) neither could it escape the politics that come with it if it starts taking things from Absolute that only make sense in Absolute, god Superman went from fighting Nazis culturally in WW2 when before he was an "Anti-war" who beat up arms dealers hard and threw them to possible deaths off-screen (but there will be no shortage of communists who think this is "Woke" because they only see Superman doing his wish to beat up rich people)
 
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DC has to have hope as an underlying theme. Snyder didn't get it, but even if it was edgy, the final plan was that the good guys won. PedoGunn hates beauty and all good things, which is why he was a terrible choice for the DC Universe, so it's no wonder Supercuck was an extended humiliation ritual, and so will Supergurl. Hell, the egocentric asshole introduces himself in his own works frequently! It kinda explains a bit about Morpheus' behaviour in Sandman being a perma-ass 24/7 as Gaiman (heh) was a leftard too.
And to think that in JLU Supergirl left her timeline for a good-looking guy (if a blue-skinned one, I guess as long as it's not black, it works out). Something we won't have today.
 
I would say for all of the darkness in it Snyder did give us hope, it just wasn't packaged the way we see it most of the time.

Throughout his films people choose to risk and even lay down their lives for others and we are shown that even in the darkest moments people who we may not think of being heroes can choose to do heroic things. Take how Lombard is portrayed in both films. In both films he is a bit of a jerk and rival to Lois Lane, but in Man of Steel when the chips are down when he could has saved himself he instead chooses to stay with Perry White and try to save Jenny and faces his almost certain death witg more dignity then most characters we see see today(Looking at you Homelander!)

I think Snyder wither he meant to or not does show us a world with hope where good can defeat evil on a scale it is hard to imagine but that hope requires self sacrifice and it does say anyone can be a hero and contribute as long as they are willing to put everything on the line to do the right thing in the moment and that is why I still feel something when I watch Man of Steel despite a few stupid moments vs. why I enjoyed some parts of Superman but nothing in it really spoke to me.
 
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I've seen Batman v Superman, I know what I want to do with Superman: make him a messianic figure. Does that prove Zack is truly a Superman fanboy? Obviously, yes. But why do you think James Gunn "hates" Superman? Maybe by making the suit more bland, reusing the cinematography from "The Flash," and being more interested in unknown characters—he even brought the Peace Maker from the dead Snyderverse into his "Gunnverse," and in the Superman movie, he was partly overshadowed by half the world... Yeah, it's pretty clear that Gunn doesn't like working on Superman.
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It is more than that. His Superman feels as confident as a middle-aged desk clerk giving his soylatte order to the attractive goth Starbucks barista. Superman is supposed to exude power, confidence, authority and warmth. Is that supposed to be a persona and the Clark is more awkward than he seems? Yes but he still tries to be confident in order to be listened to. Those who see Superman can't imagine there is an awkward nerd playing super. It is why the disguise works. Also, he made him feel naïve and stupid. This movie was Gunn's critique of Superman.
 
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You know I am starting to think whoever makes the porn version of Supergirl where Lobo bangs Supergirl is going to make more of a proffit than Warner Brothers is off of the Supergirl movie.
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All it would have to do to win is not somehow lose millions of dollars--much more money than the budget of a porn movie. This isn't even a joke. You are posting a completely reasonable prediction.
 
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The execution aside. At least I got what Zack Snyder was trying to do with the DC characters he selected to start a shared universe with.
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Zack Snyder was trying to a make Lord-of-the-Rings-style epic with DC superheroes. He didn't really see them as separate characters, more like props to move his story along. I unironically think that if he simply had to use his own original characters and had a tard-wrangler on board to reign in his most autistic tendencies then it would've worked.
 
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Zack Snyder was trying to a make Lord-of-the-Rings-style epic with DC superheroes. He didn't really see them as separate characters, more like props to move his story along. I unironically think that if he simply had to use his own original characters and had a tard-wrangler on board to reign in his most autistic tendencies then it would've worked.
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Nah. Even a tard wrangler would be threatened by a 5 foot 7 wolverine wannabe. It's all mashing action figures together. That's all his shit. It works for me. It's boring when they're not mashing eachother.

If he were to do a 1hr 30minute non stop action movie with minimal plot and just non stop destruction action... It would be great. Have a different director do the plot scenes, have Zach not involved in any casting choices.

He's an action director who thinks he can do a good story. He's like Michael Bay except bay has the island.
 
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What happened to all the people who defend James Gunn here?
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There are people that defend James Gunn here?

I've seen people say that they understand WB hiring him because he was successful with the MCU, and I've seen a couple people say minor shit like they like Corenswet's casting or Supershit is shit but they like it better than Snyderman. But if that's considered defending him, it's pretty weak.
 
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There are people that defend James Gunn here?
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There’s an account that did nothing but defend James Gunn and Sabersparks. I haven’t seen him in a while. I’ve seen weirder accounts here. We had a group of accounts that defend the cartoon Bluey every time someone calls the adult Bluey fandom the next Bronies.
 
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