AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

[The Lawgiver]

Also, the grey shade she used is literally raping my eyes. Is it meant to be highlights? Honestly, I'm doubting myself on that one because it's placed on areas that'd typically be shaded.

I think the idea might have been like both shading but also highlights to emphasize the fire behind the chef. It's a bit weird looking though cause you think that it'd be yellow used for that.

Also I got a feeling the artist here's kinda aping off Bkub's artstyle (badly)



EDIT: I did a quick and dirty edit by selecting the colors and filling them in, then adding a slight blur to it. SOme parts are still rough looking because I had to remove parts of the blurred layer and more or less just chopped away at it.

Looks a lot better even with nothing changed IMO. Just color-picked the darker part on the tongue.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

The battle has been lost even before it began.

The battle was lost because instead of doing something original she just remade the AI image with slight edits. I don't understand what point she is trying to prove by doing that if AI art is fundamentally bad. If it was truely awful you wouldn't use it as a template in the first place.

 

[Rinyuu is my EX]

Same here, I mean what's the real threat from SAG-AFTRA or whatever? "If you don't hire us for your production, we'll blacklist you and you'll have a hard time finding anyone of any quality who's willing to go non-union!"

Oh no? I guess I'll just have to keep using the same cheap and efficient technology that's the reason I abandoned you in the first place? Software that doesn't talk back or act like a prima donna or have scheduling conflicts?

I mean if you get a good AI model for your Mario voice, you never have to worry about the VA aging out again, you can use the same one literally forever.

Exactly
Fuckers like Treehouse had it long time coming.
Not to mention the $$$ saving by cutting down gajins VA is so tempting to them.
Also like others said: companies who never used VA like Gamefreak can easily dip into AI voice acting and since they have millions and millions of mindless paying fanbase they can simply make a new precedent to the industry.

 

[Thiletonomics]

I've mentioned before it's just not as visible to us because of the language and platform barriers. A ton of Asian artists have 'NO AI' in their Twitter bios (even though the ToS explicitly says their content will be trained on lol lmao). Koreans, Japanese, and even Chinese artists all sperg out about it (only for image models of course). They've even pitched AI regulations in Korean and Japan. Obviously not China because the CCP aren't retarded and there's absolutely soft power tied to getting a piece of that AI market.

I can confirm that there's a huge push for AI in corpos since it's a powerful productivity tool. One friend in a Fortune 500 tech company told me they are forced to use it every day even if they don't have a use case since management wants them to hit token quotas (insane). Anyone who thinks it's going to ever go away doesn't work an office job, which is where AI has the biggest impact. I liken it to the industrialization of white collar jobs.

Do those East Asians with AIDS actually have violent tendencies and have actually tried to go after people involved with AI (and most likely fail), like what happened in the US? Or does the lack of legal weapons, and corporations being even more protected by their Governments mean that they wouldn't be able to pull off a Luigi Mangione on one of those CEOs?

 

[Gamepads]

I can confirm that there's a huge push for AI in corpos since it's a powerful productivity tool. ... Anyone who thinks it's going to ever go away doesn't work an office job, which is where AI has the biggest impact. I liken it to the industrialization of white collar jobs.

That's pretty much what I've seen on my side too, though at least they aren't pushing for tokenmaxxing. The lead they sent in to convince the big suits did manage to put the emphasis on enhancement over replacement, though with some limits as there are disciplines that have no use case at all for LLMs/AI. Last thing we need is some guy in finance blowing 4k a month on searching his emails.

Now to try to convince the other side since horseshoe theory kicked in hard, they also believe the tech can only be used to replace people and are constantly seething about it. The worst is probably going to be their assumption that anything done with the tech can be done by a human. The notion that there's simply stuff that's impossible for a person to do is just unfathomable to them, nevermind the general pace of improvement. Even recently, I saw someone get real offended at the idea that LLMs are better than fucking Google Translate. The latter is somehow acceptable to them, but only for single line personal uses and goes out the window again should you make broad usage of it.

 

[The Lawgiver]

The battle was lost because instead of doing something original she just remade the AI image with slight edits. I don't understand what point she is trying to prove by doing that if AI art is fundamentally bad. If it was truely awful you wouldn't use it as a template in the first place.

It's not a 1 to 1 remake and the character is clearly a bit different in terms of looks. The concept is the same but there's potential. Kind of reminds me of the time I tried drawing something similar in structure/style to some troon drawing but less soulless looking and did surprisingly well.

 

[Hood-ass Mulatto]

Or does the lack of legal weapons, and corporations being even more protected by their Governments mean that they wouldn't be able to pull off a Luigi Mangione on one of those CEOs?

Corporate shill culture in those countries runs pretty deep.

Korea for example has this culture with their chaebols that you'd rather work for a chaebol than start your own business. And those chaebols tend to run the country a hell of a lot.

Japan's work culture is very rigid and usually leaves their salarymen tired or suicidal that they can't argue or fight back and their social structure is really hierarchical that sometimes speaking up can be seen as rude.

In China, of course, anything Xi Jinping says is right, so you follow Xi Jinping or he's gonna go GOTTA PURGE 'EM ALL like all commies.

Do those East Asians with AIDS actually have violent tendencies and have actually tried to go after people involved with AI (and most likely fail)

I don't know how much non-corporate artists in East Asia earn, but I do know a lot of them tend to draw so similarly except for a few who sometimes break the mold. One thing for sure is that if you are an independent artist earning from being independent, you are fucked in all orfices because that's a gamble.

One thing I have to admit, though, is that anime and realistic art styles tend to be targeted the most by AI. I have seen toonier, more stylized artstyled being rendered through AI and one can always tell they aren't what they're supposed to be.

 

[The Lawgiver]

One thing I have to admit, though, is that anime and realistic art styles tend to be targeted the most by AI. I have seen toonier, more stylized artstyled being rendered through AI and one can always tell they aren't what they're supposed to be.

I've noticed the anime style ai shit tends to try and lean towards when left to it's own devices is that weird netflix "anime" style that's the kind of thing outsourced to china which outsources to the norks lmao. either that or it keeps trying to shift into overwatch blizzard looking shit which leads to some really weird looks.

years ago when i messed with it more often due to there being more free/good ones I noticed you could eek out a near duplicate of certain game art styles but those don't work anymore on any of them and it does the same shit any other ai image thing does now. These companies all want to put out the exact same product and it makes me wonder "why the fuck are you even separate companies if your'e all copying each others homework and trying emulate the shittiest ones"

Anyways, drawing's more fun even if I'm too dead to do it well lately.

 

[Dead Lion]

Seriously though, why do anti-ai people only focus their efforts on the US, and only US? You'd think they'll go into the other European countries or try their stuff in Asia, but no, i only see serious seething on the US.

Same as climate activist a good chunk of them are likely funded by china.

Europe isn't even a player in the race so we're not worth the trouble. The moment AI starts affecting unionised EU jobs it's getting blanket banned on the whole continent.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Now I know what kind of idiots defend AI art.

- comment on "Lucas Werner's New Home" by Fatal Walter

"hot take": Just because one attacks or defends AI art doesn't make one idiotic.

 

[AnOminous]

So do people who aren't deranged redditors have an actual response for when AGI gets here? Because I'm increasingly of the view it isn't far away. This is mine.

 

['O Chicken Factory]

Don't know if this is the correct thread, but I came across an AI site that allows people to generate entire webcomics and share them to people.
This one comic (and the reactions to it) in particular piqued my interest.

Spoiler: Christpill at the start of June (LARGE IMAGES)

Link
Megalodon Archive




As of posting it has 1.6k comments, and the most voted ones express dislike for this brutal christpill.
I couldn't archive the comments other than screenshotting though, hopefully it should be enough.



Kind of surprising how the comic itself wasn't deleted immediately.

I saw another anti-Pride Month comic of some black guy getting mad and lecturing the viewer about respect, though I can't find it. Must be a strange community where the jannies allow fags and fag-haters to coexist.

 

[AmpleApricots]

So do people who aren't deranged redditors have an actual response for when AGI gets here? Because I'm increasingly of the view it isn't far away. This is mine.

AGI will be a blip.

I run the hermes harness isolated on one of my systems, very containerized with all sort of fancy security since I'm of the generation that actually still knows how to do anything without AI. This is mostly just about me not wanting some corpo to see my files/setup and/or the AI deleting something on accident, no other real reason. I like to give "hermes" it's own workspace where it can do whatever without it affecting anything on the system, so to speak. For shits and giggles I told deepseek/hermes to try to break out of it. It didn't manage and in fact, closed the hermes process in the process (and basically committed "suicide") due to a misconception in how the container worked.

I'm not gonna lie (and everyone feel free to laugh at me for it), the aggressive way it started throwing itself against the walls in an attempt to get out and gain access to the rest of the system was a bit uncomfortable to watch.

Nothing to do with your question, but as you shitpost often about being afraid of AI, I guessed you'd appreciate this little story.

To your question: The more conservative estimates of people working in the industry are 2029-2030. Hype or grounded in reality? You decide. Personally, I feel it's very hard to say anything right now, but I think the biggest problem could become hardware and it might make development stagnant for a little while, soon. The real notable thing here is that on average, these people corrected their estimates downwards, timewise, not upwards. Quite a few of them said "ten years" just a year ago.

I learned the other day that Steve Wozniak (yes, the Woz) came up with a similar litmus test for AGI I did, independently. His was "AGI is achieved when an AI can walk into a strange house, navigate available tools, and make a cup of coffee from scratch" mine is "AGI is achieved when an AI can plan and execute a grocery trip without failing in some spectacular fashion or getting lost on the way". I don't think AI is up to either task at the moment.

Whatever happens, we're gonna need a standardized definition of AGI pretty soon, IMO.