FIGGIN [17 Aug 18] Phil wants to violently avenge Chloe Sagal - He is late in everything isn't he?

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He was admitted because he took too many tylonal PMs or something to try (and fail hilariously) to kill himself because people weren't giving him attention on Facebook. The dumbass tried to OD on tylonal...fucking tylonal. He should've just hung himself or stand out in the middle of a busy ass intersection.
It was not Tyrenol, because he did things for show and Tyrenol might actually kill him.
I recall at least two incidences: one was Zoloft, the other was Motrin PM (the antihistamine component of which made him so confused that he was caught by a cop in the streets).
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
. But Phil can't even think that far ahead. He literally needs to know what other troons think before he comments on anything, lest he accidentally wind up on the wrong side of the issue

That's the reason why everyone says Phil doesn't and has never had a single original thought or creation. Phil can even think one minute ahead because he's incredibly stupid. Also, he's fully understand the delusion and has convinced himself that of he steps one foot out of his door, kiwis will be standing there to greet him, then perform a home invasion. He has to arm himself while taking his trash out night because he's so scared of us (to which he always comes back saying he's not scared, and he be would whoop/kill any kiwi. This will eventually end up with him accidentally murdering someone in cold blood). Phil, you seem to always think we want to invade your filthy apartment, the fact is, no one in their right mind would ever want to invade your house (which is a biohazard site), nor steal any of your worthless toys.
 
Man if Phil really wanted to avenge her he could take a shower and get a job.
 
What are the exact details of how he was committed? In California he would be denied the right to possess a firearm for an observation hold (temporarily) and a commitment, but it is only against federal criminal code if it is a commitment.
U.S. v. Hansel, 474 F.2d 1120 (8th Cir. 1973)
Nebraska law provided a two-step proc edure for determining if a patient was mentally ill and in need of hospitalization:
1) the patient may be temporarily hospitalized, up to 60 days, for observation if the County Mental Health Board determines he is mentally ill and in need of hospitalization, and
2) the patient may later be committed to the hospital if the superintendent determines he is mentally ill and should be admitted, and certifies this to the Board.
Defendant had been hospitalized under step #1. He was found not to have a serious mental disorder and was released after two weeks. Step #2 was not reached. The Court found that this did not count as a commitment.

U.S. v. Giardina, 861 F.2d 1334 (5th Cir. 1988)
Louisiana law provides for “admission by emergency certificate.” A doctor examines the patient and certifies mental illness or substance abuse, and dangerousness. This allows for transportation and admission to the hospital. Within 72 hours of admission, examination by a second doctor is required. If the patient is to be held beyond 15 days, there must be a judicial commitment. Giardina was admitted under this procedure, but discharged by the hospital before a hearing was required. The Court found that this did not count as a commitment.

U.S. v. Waters, 23 F.3d 29 (2d Cir. 1994)
New York state law allows for involuntary hospitalization based on an application for admission by a relative or other qualified person, followed by certificates from two doctors that the patient is in need of involuntary treatment. The patient can request a hearing at any time during the first 60 days of hospitalization. There is no automatic hearing. After 60 days, the hospital can request a hearing to further extend the involuntary hospitalization, or the patient can sign himself in as a voluntary patient.
Mr. Waters did not request a hearing, and signed himself in voluntarily at the 60-day mark. He was released seven months later. The Court found that this did count as a commitment.

U.S. v. Whiton, 48 F.3d 356 (8th Cir. 1995)
Defendant had been involuntarily admitted to a hospital in Texas after an application for commitment, examinations by two psychologists, and a court order committing him for up to 90 days. This did count as a commitment.
U.S. v. Chamberlain, 159 F.3d 656 (1st Cir. 1998)
Maine law allows for involuntary emergency admission based on:
1. an application (by anyone) alleging mental illness and likelihood of serious harm,
2. examination by a doctor on the same day, certifying mental illness and likelihood of serious harm,
3. a Judge reviews the application/certification, endorses them as having been prepared in accordance with the law, and orders admission to the hospital for up to 5 days, and
4. a second doctor examines the patient within 24 hours of admission and also certifies mental illness and likelihood of serious harm. Within those first five days of hospitalization, the hospital may seek an involuntary commitment in district court. This is a full adversarial hearing with counsel provided for the patient. The patient may also convert to voluntary status, in which case there is no hearing. Mr. Chamberlain signed voluntary during the first five days. The Court found that this did count as a commitment.

U.S. v. Midgett, 198 F.3d 143 (4th Cir. 1999)
Defendant had been charged with breaking and entering in Virginia, and the court ordered an evaluation of his competence to stand trial. After reviewing the doctor’s report and hearing evidence, the court concluded he was not competent to stand trial and needed inpatient care to treat his mental illness and restore him to capacity. Defendant was ordered into the hospital for treatment. After two months of treatment, doctors concluded he was not competent for trial and was not restorable for the foreseeable future, but was also not dangerous to self or others. Defendant went home after the DA declined to pursue the case. Defendant later was arrested by the Secret Service and charged with possession of firearms in violation of 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(4). The Court concluded that defendant’s confinement for restoration of competency did count as a commitment.

U.S. v. Vertz, 102 F.Supp. 2d 787 (2000)
Defendant was admitted to a Michigan hospital based on a nurse’s petition, accompanied by a doctor’s certificate stating he was mentally ill, dangerous to self and others, and in need of treatment. Defendant consented to treatment pending his court hearing. A second doctor also certified that he was mentally ill and dangerous. At the hearing, the Probate Court found mental illness and need for treatment, but discharged Vertz from the hospital after finding that less restrictive treatment was appropriate and available.
The Court found that this did count as a commitment.

U.S. v. Buffaloe, 449 F.2d 779(4th Cir. 1971)
Defendant had been found not guilty by reason of insanity of a Virginia charge of maiming. After his release from the hospital, he was charged under 18 U.S.C. 922. The Court found that the NGRI hospitalization did count as a commitment. See also Redford v. U.S. Dept. of Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, 691 F.2d 471 (10th Cir. 1982)
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Context matters.

edit. Clarified.

Literally none of that applies to Phil's situation. He lives in Oregon. He was put on a 72hr hold in California. So while he cannot own a firearm in California, both because of his psych hold and because he is no longer a resident, he does have the legal right to own a firearm in his current resident state of Oregon because he has not been committed to a psychiatric hospital by a judge or other authoritative body.

Bottom line: Yes, Phil has the legal right to own a firearm in 49 states. However, it is highly unlikely that he will ever own a real firearm due to his lack of money and the fact that he will likely be turned away from a sale due to his appearance and behavior sending up red flags.

I hope we can one day drop this "can Phil own a gun" bullshit since it's been hashed out to death and back, but I know it's going to be brought up again in the future by people who don't understand the situation and/or are new to Phil's antics.
 
Literally none of that applies to Phil's situation. He lives in Oregon. He was put on a 72hr hold in California. So while he cannot own a firearm in California, both because of his psych hold and because he is no longer a resident, he does have the legal right to own a firearm in his current resident state of Oregon because he has not been committed to a psychiatric hospital by a judge or other authoritative body.

Bottom line: Yes, Phil has the legal right to own a firearm in 49 states. However, it is highly unlikely that he will ever own a real firearm due to his lack of money and the fact that he will likely be turned away from a sale due to his appearance and behavior sending up red flags.

I hope we can one day drop this "can Phil own a gun" bullshit since it's been hashed out to death and back, but I know it's going to be brought up again in the future by people who don't understand the situation and/or are new to Phil's antics.
That's what I thought and had written in a previous post. The case law was just to show people that yes, these things can differ state to state and situation to situation. This whole thing has been over at least once by the FFL/SOT holder Phil actually tried to buy a gun from. This rumor only persists because people know less about guns than they do about the law and most people, including gun owners, don't know jack shit about guns.
 
That's what I thought and had written in a previous post. The case law was just to show people that yes, these things can differ state to state and situation to situation. This whole thing has been over at least once by the FFL/SOT holder Phil actually tried to buy a gun from. This rumor only persists because people know less about guns than they do about the law and most people, including gun owners, don't know jack shit about guns.

Ah, my apologies. I had misinterpreted your post. I had read it as you were trying to provide evidence that Phil is not permitted to own a firearm.

As far as gun owners not knowing guns and gun laws, it really depends on the gun owner. Most of the gun owners I know, myself included, are very passionate about their gun rights and try to stay knowledgeable about the laws and regulations. The ignorant ones that I've personally run into tend to either be first time gun owners buying for home protection, people getting into gun ownership because of video games, people who have very little experience with firearms and have inherited a collection from a deceased relative, and those who only own a couple rifles or shotguns strictly for hunting. At least, that's been my personal experience. However, the most ignorant people in regards to firearms and gun laws tend to be the people who wish to ban or heavily restrict them. I can't tell you how many gun banners I've met who think when the media talks about "assault weapons" they are referring to fully-automatic weapons.

Back on topic: Something, something, Phil's ugly tattoos and infected manhole.
 
Ah, my apologies. I had misinterpreted your post. I had read it as you were trying to provide evidence that Phil is not permitted to own a firearm.

As far as gun owners not knowing guns and gun laws, it really depends on the gun owner. Most of the gun owners I know, myself included, are very passionate about their gun rights and try to stay knowledgeable about the laws and regulations. The ignorant ones that I've personally run into tend to either be first time gun owners buying for home protection, people getting into gun ownership because of video games, people who have very little experience with firearms and have inherited a collection from a deceased relative, and those who only own a couple rifles or shotguns strictly for hunting. At least, that's been my personal experience. However, the most ignorant people in regards to firearms and gun laws tend to be the people who wish to ban or heavily restrict them. I can't tell you how many gun banners I've met who think when the media talks about "assault weapons" they are referring to fully-automatic weapons.

Back on topic: Something, something, Phil's ugly tattoos and infected manhole.
There is just too much "common knowledge" about guns that leads to ignorance. Even people who are into guns fall into the trap frequently. The "silencers are actually suppressors because they don't silence guns they just suppress the noise of the gunshot you still hear the supersonic crack unless you're shooting subsonic rounds REEEEEEEEEE" crowd is the first example that comes to mind. First off, quit being a sperg. Watch some Carnik Con and chill. People can call shit what they want. Second, they're called silencers in the criminal code. Even if pop culture stops calling them silencers, some people still will because the fucking US government does. I think we should call them mufflers to piss off mall ninjas and tryhards. That's in the code too.
 
There is just too much "common knowledge" about guns that leads to ignorance. Even people who are into guns fall into the trap frequently. The "silencers are actually suppressors because they don't silence guns they just suppress the noise of the gunshot you still hear the supersonic crack unless you're shooting subsonic rounds REEEEEEEEEE" crowd is the first example that comes to mind. First off, quit being a sperg. Watch some Carnik Con and chill. People can call shit what they want. Second, they're called silencers in the criminal code. Even if pop culture stops calling them silencers, some people still will because the fucking US government does. I think we should call them mufflers to piss off mall ninjas and tryhards. That's in the code too.

Eh, call me a try hard, because I call them suppressors (because I'm anal when it comes to proper firearms terminology) or mufflers (because that's what they're called in many Eurofag countries, and I have a few Eurofag friends who are also shooters). But I don't REEEEEE at people who use silencer because there is a specific type of sound muffler called "silencer" that uses rubber washers called "wipes" that slow the projectile down to subsonic speeds. I'm...I'm a massive gun sperg.
 
Eh, call me a try hard, because I call them suppressors (because I'm anal when it comes to proper firearms terminology) or mufflers (because that's what they're called in many Eurofag countries, and I have a few Eurofag friends who are also shooters). But I don't REEEEEE at people who use silencer because there is a specific type of sound muffler called "silencer" that uses rubber washers called "wipes" that slow the projectile down to subsonic speeds. I'm...I'm a massive gun sperg.
I'm also a massive sperg as well, but the only thing I take super seriously with guns is safety. Way to ruin my muffler plan by telling me Eurofags call them that. God damn it.
 
He should avenge himself by shitting on a Holocaust memorial.
He can't even do that right.

What makes Phil so god damned amazing out of all the things he does to be edgy and spite people, the only one he was able to do was get his dick cut off .. something we made fun of him for and dared him to do.. Plus he had a doctor do it on tax payer dollars. That's the only prank he managed to pull off.

Tyce may have peed on toilet paper and stolen free cookies at a bank but he never had obeme and the faceshitz gov pay to hack his mirco cock off.
 
I'm also a massive sperg as well, but the only thing I take super seriously with guns is safety. Way to ruin my muffler plan by telling me Eurofags call them that. God damn it.

Well, I mean, that's basically what they are. At least, the ones that use a baffle system like an automotive muffler. I'm super serious about firearms safety as well. I think it's the most important part about being a responsible gun owner. My oldest son was drilled about gun safety from the time he could understand the concept of "don't touch anything that looks like this" and then on the more complex aspects as he grew older, and my younger son will be raised the same way. Not that I leave any of my firearms where little hands can find them, but I want them to respect and enjoy them, not fear them. My oldest son has been excellent so far and always asks before he touches a firearm, always checks it or has me check it to ensure it's clear, always keeps them pointed in a safe direction, and has excellent trigger discipline. He even practices trigger discipline with his Nerf blasters.

On topic: I shudder to think how horrible Phil would be in regards to firearms safety. I'm positive he would be the kind of person who would never practice trigger discipline, muzzle sweep people, forget to check to see if the weapon is clear, etc. It makes me grateful that the chances of him ever owning a firearm are slim-to-nil and that most people aren't as stupid as he is, therefore very unlikely to sell to him. However, it does make me nervous that he apparently is in contact with people who are as stupid as he is, and are giving him access to real firearms. That's just a recipe for a negligent discharge or worse. I just hope that if Phil does have a negligent discharge that he doesn't accidentally hit anyone. And if he does hit someone, I hope it's either himself or one of the SJW Antifa losers he's palling around with and not some innocent decent person.
 
he has not been committed to a psychiatric hospital by a judge or other authoritative body.

Not yet at least. Believe me, very soon in the future (if Phil actually doesn't die from sepsis/jaundice because of his infected, pus filled, boil covered Mariana Trench), with the raye Phil is going, and the delusions only he believes, he will find a way to get himself committed. All of it will be because people refuse to pay attention to him. Phil honestly believes crying wolf, and causing self injury are 100% great ways to gain attention, nevermind getting attention for doing something positive, or helping a charity/starting your own. Phil will be committed to a looney bin (where the real wacky dellis are) before Chris is committed, and to be quite honest, both of these tards are 3 quarters the way there.
 
He should avenge himself by shitting on a Holocaust memorial.

Phil should avenge himself by shitting in Slingblade's mouth while Slingblade is asleep/passed out drunk. After all, Slingblade is really the only person in this world who has actually wronged Phil by mooching a place to squat and kicking Phil out of his own fucking bedroom. I'd be pissed if someone I was being generous to by giving them a place to stay took over my bed and made me pay for everything all on my own. Lucky for Slingblade Phil is stupid and a chicken-shit coward who never stands up for himself.

Tyce may have peed on toilet paper and stolen free cookies at a bank but he never had obeme and the faceshitz gov pay to hack his mirco cock off.

Tyce was a TRUE marine trane analchest and a proud man, not some silly fggt poseur who is terrified of his own dick and has vagina envy. Tyce was realistic, gamers. Plus Phil can't even fucking street race or lay down some sick rhymes.

Not yet at least. Believe me, very soon in the future (if Phil actually doesn't die from sepsis/jaundice because of his infected, pus filled, boil covered Mariana Trench), with the raye Phil is going, and the delusions only he believes, he will find a way to get himself committed. All of it will be because people refuse to pay attention to him. Phil honestly believes crying wolf, and causing self injury are 100% great ways to gain attention, nevermind getting attention for doing something positive, or helping a charity/starting your own. Phil will be committed to a looney bin (where the real wacky dellis are) before Chris is committed, and to be quite honest, both of these tards are 3 quarters the way there.

If Chris can continue to flounce around talking about sister dimensions, hedgehog abominations, mind-linking with fictional characters, and how he's a setsy and all-powerful video game goddess without getting hauled up for commitment, then Phil has nothing to worry about. Besides, Chris actually gets out of his house and spends time with real people in the real world. Phil is too terrified of being raped (i.e.: getting called a man by people who don't give a shit about his gender identity). Sadly for society, I don't see either of them getting put away where they belong.
 
Not yet at least. Believe me, very soon in the future (if Phil actually doesn't die from sepsis/jaundice because of his infected, pus filled, boil covered Mariana Trench), with the raye Phil is going, and the delusions only he believes, he will find a way to get himself committed. All of it will be because people refuse to pay attention to him. Phil honestly believes crying wolf, and causing self injury are 100% great ways to gain attention, nevermind getting attention for doing something positive, or helping a charity/starting your own. Phil will be committed to a looney bin (where the real wacky dellis are) before Chris is committed, and to be quite honest, both of these tards are 3 quarters the way there.
Committed no, punched in the face by somebody tired of his shit? Yes.
 
You guys know the question of Phil actually getting a gun isn't really about his legal ability to do so. Whether or not he could legally purchase a gun is largely irrelevant because I don't really think he wants one in the first place. Oh granted he likes the rush of power the very idea of a gun gives him, but it's just revenge fantasies. I don't see him actually saving up the money for a gun, especially not now that hes found a buddy who will apparently take him shooting. Remember how gung ho he was about bicycles? And look how long it took him to actually get one. And even then it was other troons donating him money IIRC.

Besides for all of the power tripping, I suspect Phil is actually a little afraid of guns, for what worth.

As for Phil's mental state, hes an idiot and he almost certainly does have real mental issues, but hes not a drooling idiot. Well, not quite anyway. He does a lot of dumb shit for attention and he is extremely susceptible to peer pressure, but I doubt he'll go so far as to get himself committed. For all of his stupidity he still has a sense of self-preservation, even a weird sort of pride. It's hard to understand for us, but Phil is willing to waddle around claiming to be a translatinx womyn of color, play acting at being homeless and refusing to wipe his shit encrusted arse, but he still views certain things as "beneath him." His priorities are fucked up to say the least.

So yeah hes stupid and he does dumb stuff, and hes fucked up his life by waddling around and getting shitty tattoos and even getting his dick chopped off, but like Chria, people seem to view him as more like a cartoon caricature of himself. I've said before but Phil doesn't have gender dysphoria and I seriously doubt he waddles around in costume 24/7. In fact outside of his photoshoots he seems to be too embarrassed to crossdress in public. Again its weird considering he was so willing to chop off his dick but what are you gonna do?

Now where I do think Phil is going to get himself in trouble is that he will eventually post off the wrong person. Again much like Chris, Phil has been remarkably lucky in avoiding any and all consequences for his actions. So far. But while Chris is basically a hatmless weirdo who gets out of his house once in a while to play Pokemon or go to a con, Phil is a lazy but somewhat malicious little shit who desperately wants asspats and to hang out with Antifa and the like. While Phil is an ass, he sort of knows who to avoid and who not to mouth off to. Mostly. It's when he thinks he has even a little bit of power that things go to his head. Hes not going to act out around some big, muscle bound black dude with tats, or to the police, but if he thinks he has a leg up on one of his fellow protestors... well things would go south for him very quickly.

Unless something is very concrete for him, very black and white, Phil doesn't really understand it. It's the subtle nuances that fuck with his autistic little brain. Things you or I wouldn't really give a second thought. Remember, Phil is still a teenager in his head. He doesn't like authority, and he certainly doesn't like being told no. He wants to fit in with the "cool kids," and in his mind, that's Antifa and the radical left. He couldn't give a fuck about their political, and to be honest he doesn't understand them either. Hell the only reason he got into that shit is because he thought China from Hetalia was kawaii.

So while hes dumb (I mean to the point of being below average in intelligence) and gross, he doesnt actually believe Kiwi agents are coming to get him and isn't likely to buy a gun either. This is all play acting for him. It's because he wants attention and he learned a long time ago that other troons respond to this, but hes been getting increasingly diminishing returns over time, partly because hes getting older, partly because people know him by reputation now and block or avoid him, and partly because the very social justice trends he follows are changing and he can't quite understand that what was popular a year or two ago wont be tomorrow.
 
I agree with you 100% that one day, Phil is going to make a death threat or a passive agressive threat to someone who isn't going to laugh and walk away, instead, said person is going to take Phil's threats seriously enough to the point where Phil will get his ass kicked for being a tarded douche. We all know that if this does end up happening, a couple days later, Phil will go to Facebook and Tumblr and make up some heroic story. History will eventually repeat itself with Phil as well because he refuses to take no for a answer, and he's unwilling to learn.
 
Well, I mean, that's basically what they are. At least, the ones that use a baffle system like an automotive muffler. I'm super serious about firearms safety as well. I think it's the most important part about being a responsible gun owner. My oldest son was drilled about gun safety from the time he could understand the concept of "don't touch anything that looks like this" and then on the more complex aspects as he grew older, and my younger son will be raised the same way. Not that I leave any of my firearms where little hands can find them, but I want them to respect and enjoy them, not fear them. My oldest son has been excellent so far and always asks before he touches a firearm, always checks it or has me check it to ensure it's clear, always keeps them pointed in a safe direction, and has excellent trigger discipline. He even practices trigger discipline with his Nerf blasters.

On topic: I shudder to think how horrible Phil would be in regards to firearms safety. I'm positive he would be the kind of person who would never practice trigger discipline, muzzle sweep people, forget to check to see if the weapon is clear, etc. It makes me grateful that the chances of him ever owning a firearm are slim-to-nil and that most people aren't as stupid as he is, therefore very unlikely to sell to him. However, it does make me nervous that he apparently is in contact with people who are as stupid as he is, and are giving him access to real firearms. That's just a recipe for a negligent discharge or worse. I just hope that if Phil does have a negligent discharge that he doesn't accidentally hit anyone. And if he does hit someone, I hope it's either himself or one of the SJW Antifa losers he's palling around with and not some innocent decent person.


While I stopped watching The Simpsons about 5-6 seasons after it started, one episode that always stuck with me was the one where Homer joined the NRA, and started using his pistol for everything from opening his beer to turning on and off his teevee. This is what Phil would be like. And the horrified reaction of his local NRA chapter the first time Homer held a meeting at his place is what everyone who ever conspired to get Phil a firearm would be feeling after 2 days of him owning a gun and he has already had multiple accidental discharges and/or killed somone's pet.
 
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