Isabella and Allen potentially spike Louis’ drink with Estrogen

[Caesar]

Zoe confirmed they received some sort of complaint and had to file a counter complaint

Louis and Bella deffo submitted reports, they said so. No proof yet from Allen other than his word but he said he did it to Bella and he is a snake cunt.

 

[Sertraline]

I feel like they only meme'd about doing it. If she's into drugs and shady shit she likely would have talked about particularly acquiring it (3rd world biotech firms), and administering it if she was going to follow through.

Copying from megathread:

Looking at the estrogen thing, I can sort of believe that it's a joke.

They mention Louis taking a bunch of pills (ie, not being secretly drugged):

Then the bit about "fucking up his brain chemistry" comes out of nowhere, and may simply have to do with how much they fuck with him:

Then, only later do the two of them talk about putting estrogen in his drinks:

I think that Bella may have given him some estrogen pills and he may have taken them willingly (since he seems to do whatever she tells him to do). The drugging him in secret bit, however, I'm not sure about. They mention hiding it in his protein powder, then mention he doesn't work out anymore so they mention possibly putting it in his drink. No telling whether they actually did it or not.

 

[Caesar]

I feel like they only meme'd about doing it. If she's into drugs and shady shit she likely would have talked about particularly acquiring it (3rd world biotech firms), and administering it if she was going to follow through.

Well, in the logs she talks about buying cryptocurrency and the darknet.

 

[Sertraline]

And nothing of value was lost that day

Given that Louis was born a manlet, I'd be surprised if he even noticed anything wrong after ingesting all that estrogen.

 

[valid trans cutie]

Update: I've looked through the logs and found no mention of Bella giving any drugs/nootropics to Louis.

Why would he take them willingly? He said he wants to grow out of his feminine traits. Estrogen would not help that at all. Telling him the pills are anything but estrogen is deception and illegal. This is similar to cumming in mayo and claiming it's just mayo (that's food sabotage). You didn't willingly take an estrogen pill if you were told it was adderall and had no reason to believe it was nothing but adderall. Griffith is an idiot to play with psychopaths, not thinking he too will one day be used as a scapegoat.

Agreed.

 

[Caesar]

Update: I've looked through the logs and found no mention of Bella giving any drugs/nootropics to Louis.


Agreed.

They are in the messages between Allen and I think the Simon account of Bella.

 

[valid trans cutie]

They are in the messages between Allen and I think the Simon account of Bella.

Ah, no I meant she giving him other pills and lacing them. That was my pet theory, but I haven't found any evidence for it.

 

[Caesar]

Ah, no I meant she giving him other pills and lacing them. That was my pet theory, but I haven't found any evidence for it.

Oh, sorry, no you're right. The original plan was to tell him it's protein powder. then to add the pwoder to his food and drinks, then to get liquid estrogen to slip into food/drinks.

 

[valid trans cutie]

Oh, sorry, no you're right. The original plan was to tell him it's protein powder. then to add the pwoder to his food and drinks, then to get liquid estrogen to slip into food/drinks.

Yea I thought she might have done the same with Adderall or other drugs. There's no evidence towards or against that theory as of now. Except Louis indicating he wouldn't take Adderall:

Still not conclusive either way. Might've been other pills she gave him, or he was just being edgy.

 

[Big Bang]

Surely it violates some poisoning/trapping/contaminating laws?

If it were powder (and thus placed in something else, like food or liquid), it would be food tampering. If he were given a pill, it's more vague. It's along the lines of civil fraud,

1. There was a material representation made that was false;
2. The person who made the representation knew the representation was false or made it recklessly as a positive assertion without any knowledge of its truth;
3. The person who made the representation intended to induce another to act upon the representation; and
4. The person to whom the material representation was made actually and justifiably relied on the representation, which caused the injury. (What is Civil Fraud?)

"The most important difference between Civil and Criminal fraud contends primarily with the amount of proof needed to convict within each individual case. As we know, criminal proceedings require prosecutors to prove guilt “beyond a reasonable doubt”. Civil cases however, require a much lower standard to prove an individual’s guilt. In civil law, the burden of proof in trial is known as the “balance of probabilities” or the “preponderance of evidence”. In this scenario, one party’s case only needs to be stronger than the other side. In essence, the alleging party need only cross the fifty percent threshold in order to succeed in conviction." She'd be fucked if this man took her to court. Given her propensity to lie, but peculiar amount of detail and behavior when telling the truth (eg. shitting her pants, killing hamsters, bullying, etc.), her word on the stand would have less weight than her text messages. Most courts aren't equipped to handle someone with BPD. Therefor, the man would need an experienced lawyer who's dealt with these sort of individuals if he wants to win, even in a civil case, where a lawyer is not typically present.

 

[Caesar]

If it were powder (and thus placed in something else, like food or liquid), it would be food tampering. If he were given a pill, it's more vague. It's along the lines of civil fraud,

1. There was a material representation made that was false;
2. The person who made the representation knew the representation was false or made it recklessly as a positive assertion without any knowledge of its truth;
3. The person who made the representation intended to induce another to act upon the representation; and
4. The person to whom the material representation was made actually and justifiably relied on the representation, which caused the injury. (What is Civil Fraud?)

Poisoning in US law is defined as so:

Willfully Poisoning. Penal Code 347(a)(1) states that a person is guilty of a felony if he: “Willfully” mixes any poison or harmful substance with any food, drink, medicine, pharmaceutical product, or public water supply; and, Knows, or should have known, that a person would take or consume the poisoned substance.

And if she tries to claim "oh, that was my tampered food he ate", that is also a crime, trapping food in a common area. But I agree, anyway.

 

[Big Bang]

Poisoning in US law is defined as so:

Willfully Poisoning. Penal Code 347(a)(1) states that a person is guilty of a felony if he: “Willfully” mixes any poison or harmful substance with any food, drink, medicine, pharmaceutical product, or public water supply; and, Knows, or should have known, that a person would take or consume the poisoned substance.

And if she tries to claim "oh, that was my tampered food he ate", that is also a crime, trapping food in a common area. But I agree, anyway.

I was hesitant to call it poisoning. The law states it must be mixed with something else. Giving just a pill wouldn't be mixing. Of course, one could argue it's still poisoning. Just going off the literal wording of the law, which is a poignant aspect of law itself--to take things literally. Some judges would prefer to go by that literal rule to avoid ambiguity.

 

[Caesar]

I was hesitant to call it poisoning. The law states it must be mixed with something else. Of course, one could argue it's still poisoning. Just going off the literal wording of the law, which is a poignant aspect of law itself--to take things literally.

I would say that trying to get his body to take on womanly features so she can bully him is harmful, as beta as he is, i doubt he wants a female body. But yes, I agree with you, just I remember similar stories over the years about dosing room mates with shit.

 

[Sasha]

Wether they effectively lace some shit or not, we will probably learn soon enough, but just by looking at the contents of their chat is enough to despise them, for me.
They fucking hate each other , each one of them, really, that's like 3 psychopaths on an island doing a battle royale.

 

[moemoeh]

Louis thinks he is going to get fungus infected coochie but will get none

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Poisoning in US law is defined as so:

Willfully Poisoning. Penal Code 347(a)(1) states that a person is guilty of a felony if he: “Willfully” mixes any poison or harmful substance with any food, drink, medicine, pharmaceutical product, or public water supply; and, Knows, or should have known, that a person would take or consume the poisoned substance.

And if she tries to claim "oh, that was my tampered food he ate", that is also a crime, trapping food in a common area. But I agree, anyway.

Yeah this sounds good until you realize framing estrogen as a "poison or harmful substance" will immediately drag all the tranny jannies into a rage. You can't call their uwu astolfo pills possibly dangerous because that would hurt their feelings.

 

[Caesar]

Yeah this sounds good until you realize framing estrogen as a "poison or harmful substance" will immediately drag all the tranny jannies into a rage. You can't call their uwu astolfo pills possibly dangerous because that would hurt their feelings.

Well, anything is a poison if you use enough of it, not sure I see the slippery slope. I doubt she would ever get pulled up on this anyway, are they gonna test the bottles of piss Louis has stored in his room from the time? Just reminded me of similar cases.

 

[Unabashed Hermaphrodite]

I am convinced at this point Allen has also reported Zoe and thought he could get the Kiwi's to leave him alone as everyone else fades into osburity over time

Niggers gonna nig.

Yeah this sounds good until you realize framing estrogen as a "poison or harmful substance" will immediately drag all the tranny jannies into a rage. You can't call their uwu astolfo pills possibly dangerous because that would hurt their feelings.

No it is if it's not done correctly and by retards.

Source: am a tranny.

So yeah taking it on your own isn't poison even by the simple definition of you want those results. But overdosing on estrogen and not setting up a correct transition timeline IS poisoning.

THEY WOULD BE POISONING LOUIS IF THIS IS TRUE.

 

[Testicular Manslaugther]

Niggers gonna nig.

No it is if it's not done correctly and by retards.

Source: am a tranny.

So yeah taking it on your own isn't poison even by the simple definition of you want those results. But overdosing on estrogen and not setting up a correct transition timeline IS poisoning.

THEY WOULD BE POISONING LOUIS IF THIS IS TRUE.

+1 - "it's medication so it's not poisoning" is truly the most retarded take I've heard for a bit and a half. Being a troon doesn't make you fucking stupid. There are prescription meds that'll fucking murder your shit if you take them wrong. That's why they're on prescription, it's to avoid dipfucks an heroing on dandruff shampoo or whatever.

 

[Carmine]

Funnily enough, I think I recall something in the old big thread to the effect of Bella discussing putting estrogen in some water supply. At the time I think we assumed it was some kind of edgy joke about the local water supply, but I suppose it was more likely her plot to turn Louis into her asian gf.