File this under 'Brain Damage':
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British/Irish "Gypsies"/Travellers aren't genetically related to Gypsies/Roma/Romani although I believe some do pretend to have some connection to them, but this is like intersex-pretending troons.
The latter are of northern Indian extraction (presumably with some interbreeding with local Slavic populations) while the former are practically genetically indistinct from Irish gen. population. They only arose as a group/phenomenon some time in the ~17th century probably due to destabilization associated with English Civil War. They then hopped the Irish Sea with the migrations from 1840s onward.
There's also evidently some complexities with PBs. Having no primary sex hormone definitely ultimately makes you taller, but in the short run it slows your growth
rate. Estrogen also makes you shorter by expediting the closing of your growth plates. So, the actual effect on your height is going to depend on your growth pattern or whatever you want to call it. If you're someone like
David Robinson who grew 5 inches from 18.5-19.5 years old, then you'd end up shorter, because of having a massive and very late growth spurt. However, some men are basically done growing before 16 which is when they get CSH under the Dutch protocol. So, maybe if you grow more early then it makes you taller, but not otherwise as in this case your growth plates would stay open for longer thus doing enough to compensate for the slowed growth rate. I know clinicians seem to believe (e.g. the endocrinologist who saw Susie Green's boy seems to think that he was shorter than predicted; Jack's 5'10-11) that it stunts growth over-all, but that's only true, because you give them estrogen.
There's also a question of what interrupting puberty does, do growth plates keep fusing? Do you keep growing taller at an increased rate? This is a interesting question, since most eunuchs/castrati etc. are castrated before puberty whereas many kids put on PBs go on them at 13/14.
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