General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Cosme Fulanito]

i dont know where you get the info about indonesian but its kinda wrong,
while minority make up the very top of economic, there plenty of majority on the top too,
law only biased to minority so they cant take government official position, besides that anything goes
and no , indonesia muslim not think like that,there only simple explanation ,you rich you go to college , you poor well high school graduate for you then,

like i said before every people who can afford it care about an education ,muslim or not,
in here, if you want to get job that slightly above minimum wage ,bachelor degree is a must.
there many muslim girl study aboard or invested in education (atleast in my area.or my circle)
and no , indonesian muslim is not that strict, a muslim woman can still not wearing hijab and still can be a performer ,idol,public persona,celebrity or actress

and i think we can already confirmed that from 5/6 holo id is majority and atleast 3/6 is muslim

I'm sorry, but I'm quite ignorant on Indonesia sociopolitics. What is this "majority/minority" refering to?

 

[Azchan]

Velocity-wise they've definitely peaked; the Japanese girls have been growing very slowly (albeit still growing) for a while and there's been a noticeable slowdown with EN. While Gura will definitely hit 3 million this year (if not this summer), she's an outlier and isn't a good comparison to the others.

I believe EN gen 2 will do fine, but as mentioned a while back it won't be a case of first member to a million subs - it'll be first to 500k. There's just too much competition now to see the massive growth spurts of last year. The popular ones will always have a place given the timing of their premieres and their personalities, but any aspiring or second-tier chubas will have to put in serious long-term work if they want to reach a similar level. Expect to start seeing more graduations as this realization hits in the upcoming 12-24 months.

Will be interesting seeing if we get Hololive (or hell even Niji) considering making a Spanish, French, or German group though as such foreign language markets are about the only untapped vtuber frontier remaining.

Spanish might be a good pick as there are a shitton of spanish speaking countries.

RAISE THE ALARM! ITS HAPPENING! SHE DID IT!
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Worst kept secret. Really glad for her though.

Graduation for Holo Girls might not be anytime soon (unless said girl F up real bad, but Towa is still around so there’s a slim chance they give in to those gachikois) not to mention the slowest grow Holo still beat most Niji by a long shot.

Specific language might not be feasible vs multilingual girls. Most Europeans speak more than 2 languages anyway, so they can get some multilingual easily.

I agree. Even the ones with small sub count seem to be pulling their weight when it comes to live performances.

someone explain to me why Ame is so adverse to recognizing Uto as a "sister". I think Reine has no issue with recognizing the other 2/3 Vtuber children Pochi has, and Pochi herself is a Vtuber too.

Also, how can you not smile and maybe do a small jig as you listen to Korone's first original, which, assuming from the graphis and image storytelling, is kinda like her biography and her journey so far to her 2nd year anniversary.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nks1I1sY53I

Language barrier and probably not wanting people to spam her about it. Or it might be something related to EN not really collabing much outside Hololive. Many of the JP girls have collabed with non-Hololive talents or personalities but it seems that EN hasnt really done that.

 

[Biobreak]

someone explain to me why Ame is so adverse to recognizing Uto as a "sister". I think Reine has no issue with recognizing the other 2/3 Vtuber children Pochi has, and Pochi herself is a Vtuber too.

Ame had to put her put down since chat became annoyingly unbearable with the constant "Uto collab when?" questions ever since Uto debuted. IIRC, she was nice enough to give her a shout-out just as she was about to debut - which is why a lot of her chat even know about Uto in the first place. But then it just became constant Uto mentions in her streams after Uto debuted that she pretty much "cousin-zoned" Uto and that pretty much put a stop to all the Uto stans begging for a collab since then.

 

[Groundpounder]

I'm sorry, but I'm quite ignorant on Indonesia sociopolitics. What is this "majority/minority" refering to?

its divided into two , race and religion
the religion : islam is majority ,other is minority
the race is differ on every island but in a whole : native is majority , white , asian (who look like they can pass as cn/jp/kr) or not native black is minority
you can be majority in race but minority in religion ( e.g you javanese but christian)
or you can be minority in race but majority in religion ( e.g you chinese who become muslim )
you only become true minority if you not native and not islam.
that as far as i know tho

 

[kadmckool]

i dont know where you get the info about indonesian but its kinda wrong,
while minority make up the very top of economic, there plenty of majority on the top too,
law only biased to minority so they cant take government official position, besides that anything goes
and no , indonesia muslim not think like that,there only simple explanation ,you rich you go to college , you poor well high school graduate for you then,

like i said before every people who can afford it care about an education ,muslim or not,
in here, if you want to get job that slightly above minimum wage ,bachelor degree is a must.
there many muslim girl study aboard or invested in education (atleast in my area.or my circle)
and no , indonesian muslim is not that strict, a muslim woman can still not wearing hijab and still can be a performer ,idol,public persona,celebrity or actress

and i think we can already confirmed that from 5/6 holo id is majority and atleast 3/6 is muslim

I got my sources from ID and Malay folks who study abroad in the states. I get those stories from them but it could be their own biased since they from metropolitan area like Jakarta and Kuala Lumpur. They are quite vocal when they learn about how the government force business shutdown from non Muslim during Ramadan.
Their perception of their Muslims countrymen are “quite interesting” as well consider we were talking about it when we went out for a drink when they reach 21 during our college days. They deemed the religious nuts were using religion as a convenient tools to oppress other.

 

[horni]

It depends 'who' constitutes as 'the fanbase' in this context because it was JP retards who harassed Aloe.

In fact, I remember seeing comments under Coco's tweets after the T incident from JP fans saying shit like 'This just shows how lacking in manners the Chinese are, and how Japanese society is superior' as if it wasn't Japanese people chimping out that Aloe may or may not have had a boyfriend at some point in her life.

I'd rather not link arms and find common ground with these mega spergs knowing full well their morals and standards of these girls are still unreasonable at best.

Coco has over 1mil subs now but can barely break 5K viewers when streaming. Why? It's because the JPN fanbase are nonconfrontational pussies who abandon talents who start speaking English, make any form of mistake, develop an EN-speakimg chat/comment section or are surrounded in controversy with or without their own impetus.

There are extreme retards in every group and obsessed people seem to be in greater number in Asian countries, if Taiwan shit, as well as Mano Aloe and Towa cases, have taught us something. But I think that after Coco and Haato's suspension regular watchers (not seriously troubled people like hikikomori or unable to reproduce chinks) got more protective of their talents. I may be biased on this, but has a similar incident with spergs driving the Hololive talent away after West Taiwan spergout happened again? They have now English-speaking safenet to fall onto at least (like Towa).
Coco can wipe the tears caused by lower live viewership with this superchat money and her fans are solid to the point where they are trusted enough to proceed with chat disinsection, which they gladly did, with great success.
I think this abandoning the talent if they start speaking English seems to be an overstatement, as people like Marine, Haachama or Korone ("if you speak Japanese you will end") are unaffected by this, and bilingual Pikamee seems to have no problems with both EN and JP viewers.

someone explain to me why Ame is so adverse to recognizing Uto as a "sister".

Adding to answers which have already been posted, some people started to go overboard and paired these two as "sisters" in a really spergy way and basically forcing a collab, despite these two people not really knowing each other. I think that Ame and/or Uto (most likely Ame) had enough of this bullshit and decided to stop it right at the beginning.

Also it's quite a bummer that NijiIN is getting dissolved. I cannot imagine any other reason than low interest, which is sad - they were temporarily rebranded as NijiEN, but all of it looks like a mismanagement at the talents' expense, ended with a less-than-suble cut. Unless the whole IN branch was involved in some kind of yabai.

Not sure how they write their dates, but she said 5月 for those who know

I thought you have started learning Japanese...?

They deemed the religious nuts were using religion as a convenient tools to oppress other.

Who could have predicted that.

EDIT: corrected typo with "NijiID"

 

[Thomas Talus]

Korone recommends using her new oppai mousepad as a festive decoration for your front door.

 

[augment]

Also it's quite a bummer that NijiID is getting dissolved.

NijiID is just fine, NijiIN is getting nuked.

 

[Cubanodun]

Space of virtual ghost tl;dr for people to busy and not suffering lockdowns

Spoiler: From beyond comes the COMET

1. Start with her opening that doesn't look out of place in a Alan walker video
2. Sing light prayer, several things worth of mention, Hand tracking got massively improved, her hair doesnt clip, the chains in her belt also doesnt clip, the only technical issue is that her mic clip a little on her ear probably because is not part of her model
3. Stage got a massive overhaul considering how ass they were in other concerts
4. Love! Thunder glow time, in this part i noticed the improved face tracking but is only reduced to her eyes, her mouth need works while she sing but there is a limit and what can you do without a fancy suit and little balls (nvidia was shilling a face rigging technology that don't require it during the 3XXX presentation)
5. Sing in the morning with Toko from Nijisanji, for a couple of seconds she had to be adjusted in the scenario because she was to much to the left, Toko arm clips a lot through her frills and her twin tails float a lot but is still better than some hololivers (like 5th gen with janky clothes)
6. You know the only way to get more realistic is that if her hat moved or she could just throw it to the public like a rockstar
7. Matsuri, Aki rose , Towa and Polka appears, the performance of her models are all over the place, Suisei cant hold her guitar correctly, Akirose clip hard through the drums, Matsuri cant move her hands correctly and Polka is just there being the equivalent of Tiesto saying edgy stuff, Matsuri just gave up and decide to move her hands out of the piano halfway there
8. After the song you notice that the guitars are actually floating
9. Call me a negative nancy but the entire thing its being carried hard by Suisei well is her concert but still
10. break, Suisei now appears in a freaking lift in the ceiling like she is going to do the most epic wrestling entrance in the story of Hololive
11. Begin to sing Dancing in the moonlight while the lift is just moving through the hall the fun part is that she has now a limited place to sing and dance or she will just clip out of the lift
12. I was halfway expecting she throwing herself out of the lift and body slam someone
13. Follow with Comet and Next Color planet then debut her new song Ghost

Overall is a Suisei concert fuck everything this is awesome, downloading Ghost right to blast it all day

NijiID is just fine, NijiIN is getting nuked.

But it was a great loss?

 

[Biobreak]

NijiID is just fine, NijiIN is getting nuked.

I had to do a double-take when I read that. I knew about the IN branch getting graduated but I thought I was just OOL on the IN news. Would've been devastating to lose the likes of Hana Macchia that way (though I think they would've folded her into their EN branch if they did)

Overall is a Suisei concert fuck everything this is awesome, downloading Ghost right to blast it all day

I didn't know she was debuting a new song. Just checked her channel and it looks like it's posted there now (see below):

Really nice mash-up of pop and hints of 90s alternative to it, along with a banger of a chorus line. Shit's so good I actually had to look up the composer/arranger listed as Atsushi Sato of Dream Monster. Link below for those of you interested in his previous work:

http://www.dreamonster.jp/en/creator/sato_atsuhito.html

 

[packson]

I dunno how to feel about artists who draw their characters with the same copy-pasted face. I guess it kinda works for chuubas with all the faux-familial relationships.

Some people would say they are nabi-faced.

Also, how can you not smile and maybe do a small jig as you listen to Korone's first original, which, assuming from the graphics and image storytelling, is kinda like her biography and her journey so far to her 2nd year anniversary.

XPOTATO!

Adding to answers which have already been posted, some people started to go overboard and paired these two as "sisters" in a really spergy way and basically forcing a collab, despite these two people not really knowing each other. I think that Ame and/or Uto (most likely Ame) had enough of this bullshit and decided to stop it right at the beginning.

It was basically only Watson. She probably got fed up with it, since half of her chat wouldn’t stop talking about it.
I think calling her “cousin” was kinda weird, but it was probably the best answer at the time, especially because not long after the whole Uto meta tags/shadow company happened.

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And to give a little upgrade, Nabi already has 12k subs. Not bad.

 

[horni]

 

[Titos]

I just realized given their propensity to play borderline torturous games like Jump King, why have no Chuubas played I Wanna Be The Guy? Is it just due the game being a rights nightmare due to having stolen shit from games scattered across the industry or are they just pussies? If I could beat it in my teens on a half broken Microsoft Sidewinder controller they have no excuse.

 

[reinigen]

Jesus Fucking Christ the absolute state of Kiara-antis.



It's fucking real.

https://warosu.org/vt/thread/S2500332#p2501590

 

[horni]

play borderline torturous games

There are many games like that and I'm sure the developers would be more than happy to get some exposure from popular vtubers. IWBTG is unfair on purpose and is a perfect game for a vtuber to react to, but as you said - no vtuber from a popular company is going to play it due to questionable copyrights.

 

[Biobreak]

It's fucking real.

And here I was wondering what sort of new retardation /vt/ has going on. And it's just the same autistic doomposting as always.

 

[Potatohead]

Jesus Fucking Christ the absolute state of Kiara-antis.

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It's fucking real.

https://warosu.org/vt/thread/S2500332#p2501590

This shit is why I can’t take Takodachi and the other Kiara dislikers here’s bitching seriously. You see that kind of shit almost daily, and the KF complaints are childish in comparison. And of course, that retard can't take the hint:

 

[Scuttle]

Jesus Fucking Christ the absolute state of Kiara-antis.

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It's fucking real.

https://warosu.org/vt/thread/S2500332#p2501590

I'm not a Kiara fan at all but good fucking lord there isn't enough grass in this world for some people to touch.

 

[Takodachi]

change of plans, thanks god. I'm not a big fan of watching MC streams.
It's a fun game to play, not so much to watch.

update:
the server is down because Enma forgot to renew the realm subscription
bonk incoming

This shit is why I can’t take Takodachi and the other Kiara dislikers here’s bitching seriously. You see that kind of shit almost daily, and the KF complaints are childish in comparison. And of course, that retard can't take the hint:
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"Kiara dislikers" sounds a bit retarded, anonchaama. People not liking a Vtuber is not a grave sin and its bound to happen for a myriad of different reasons, that faggot right there is on a completely different level to your average "I don't like her voice or her cringiness"
fuck your oshi tho

 

[augment]

Please for fuck's sake, take good care of this thread, the thought of having nowhere but /vt/ to talk about streamers is horrifying beyond comprehension boundaries.