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[Jarolleon]

I wonder if this is why so many straight teenage girls are trooning out. Women don’t have to be celibate to avoid pregnancy if they’re lesbians! (Also, have you never heard of diaphragms?)

At the upper echelons of society — upper/upper middle class, white, socially adept jocks/cheerleaders, being male is advantageous. At a certain level down, though, it is (overall) better to be a woman. (I am a woman, btw). Black women are much more likely to earn a degree and much less likely to be shot by the cops than black men. White men are more likely to die of deaths of despair than white women. Asian guys make money but dating for them is horrible. Dorky autistic girls see the cool popular guys and want to be them but don’t realize if they had been born male they’d still be dorky and autistic and likely struggling even more socially.

If AGP exists, does Autoandrophilia (sp?) also exist?

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

If AGP exists, does Autoandrophilia (sp?) also exist?

You do get fujoshis, straight girls who fetishise gay men. The sort of people who read slash fiction and yaoi manga. They want to have relationships with men but don't feel they can be equal partners in a sexist society, or they're still too young for dating and are a bit scared of men, so they imagine themselves as gay men. They have zero understanding of gay men's lives and relationships though, and don't realise that yaoi is made for straight girls, it's nothing like bara or other media aimed at gay men.

 

[Icecream]

Something a little bit different this time, a pretty based thread in r/MTF

https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/l5lf18/anyone_else_sort_of_tired_of_the_cishet_male/

The comments are actually pretty reasonable and people calling him a transphobe are being downvoted

Only a few other posts from 3 yrs ago

 

[Ceci]

What are these retarded ass troons talking about? Do they not realize children go for wellness checks every year? Oh my god, a doctor exam, the horror! Do they think some guy is going to be standing outside the restroom saying, "Alright kids, dicks out if ya got 'em."

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https://twitter.com/catgraffam/status/1353756375118196736(Archive)

I was curious if he was actually introducing a gential-exam bill, and surprise surprise, it's all tranny fearmongering.

I have simply no idea how schools would determine children's sexes without pulling down their pants and checking out their junk. It's not like your sex is recorded at birth or anything, it's sadly a mystery and there's no way to learn it that would not violate the child.

 

[Father Brown]

I wonder if this is why so many straight teenage girls are trooning out. Women don’t have to be celibate to avoid pregnancy if they’re lesbians! (Also, have you never heard of diaphragms?)

At the upper echelons of society — upper/upper middle class, white, socially adept jocks/cheerleaders, being male is advantageous. At a certain level down, though, it is (overall) better to be a woman. (I am a woman, btw). Black women are much more likely to earn a degree and much less likely to be shot by the cops than black men. White men are more likely to die of deaths of despair than white women. Asian guys make money but dating for them is horrible. Dorky autistic girls see the cool popular guys and want to be them but don’t realize if they had been born male they’d still be dorky and autistic and likely struggling even more socially.

I think this is fairly true. It's true both at a micro-level; being a dork as a boy is worse than being a dork as a girl, but being Chad incarnate as a man is simply the best with no downsides. As well as at a macro level, in fact it's truer at the societal level. If you think of any stat where men do poorly relative to women, it always exhibits a huge class relationship. Examples:

Spoiler

• Risk of being assaulted/murdered: upper class men are quite possibly the least murdered demographic and maybe even the least assaulted, poor men are the most in both cases.
• Education: gaps are big in poor kids, but relatively small in wealthier or at least more successful cohorts. For example, in east Asians sex gaps are small, in Af-Ams they are huge.
• Probability of imprisonment: I don't know about how ratios evolve vs. SES, but higher imprisonment rates for men matter a lot less when you are very unlikely to be imprisoned.
• Life expectancy: The 'natural' life expectancy gap is something 2 years driven mostly by cardiovascular diffs and superior female immune function. Actual life expectancy gap in the US is ~5 years. Lifestyle factors concentrated within the lower classes explain the difference.

One reason, I'd also throw out there for why you'd get feminists saying "Oh, I'd rather be a man," but not the reverse is simply just societal dogma, unmoored from any particular set of facts. There's no definitively correct way to answer whether being a man is "better" than being a woman. The 'benefits' of being one sex or the other can only be made commensurable by interpreting using some value system. Moreover, you need to apply interpretation in the mere selection in what you consider.

However, it gets worse still, when we try to answer any essentially open question, we always begin by adopting a hypothesis. But by adopting a hypothesis we then proceed to search for justifications for that hypothesis, not refutations, and because there is no definitive way to answer the question then we are sure to find some fairly convincing sounding reasons to justify our hypothesis. The result therefore is that almost everyone is just going to end up believing whatever their initial hypothesis was, and in most cases that will be some default received belief. A belief that need not have any particular justification or even make much sense in the first place.

Feminists (and sympathetic men) often believe that women are oppressed, but what does that mean? Whatever you want it to mean usually. Unsympathetic men often (or at least used to) believe that men are better than women, but "better" in what sense? Again, in whatever sense makes it true. The result is thus that everyone wants to be a man.

I wish someone could tell her it's OK to not liking your chest and TONS of women want hysterectomy/hate their chest too, I almost want to make an account to talk to her.

Spoiler: Story sperging

Years ago a young girl on internet make a thread asking about transition because she wasn't sure if she was a man or not, when I asked her why, she said it's because her mother treat her badly and told her she is "too ugly and not feminine enough to be a woman", so for her it means she must be a man and maybe her mother will treat her better after a transition, nobody point out how absurd it is and answer her to see gender therapist to get hormones, I was the only one who told her she just has a shitty mom, that it's ok to be a masculine woman and there's nothing wrong with it, she started to see a therapist to help her dealing with her mother and how it impacts her womanhood, she never mention transiton anymore and told me she misinterpreted her emotion.

I think it's not even just that disliking your chest and being painfully conscious of it doesn't imply that you are a man due to some hard-wired 'gender identity.' In fact, she might find it easier to not even think about it when thinking about the possibility (high probability) that she has ASD. Disconnect it from gender dysphoria, don't think about it as an alternative explanation for everything in a strict sense. That might be a much easier hurdle for her to clear and allow her to not feel guilt or negative emotions in perhaps seeing an autism specialist (one who has experience with girls/women - this is v. important). Instead just consider it part of her trying to generally understand both who she is and what she feels as well as allow her to get the best possible support.

Even if she couldn't overcome the 'gender dysphoria' and still ended up wanting top surgery or even to go on T, she would still be better off for having found out about her ASD beforehand. That way even if she does end up going down that path then at least she does so with a fuller knowledge of herself, and in my view would reduce the likelihood of detransition or later mental crisis.

Now, I don't think trooning out is ever wise, especially not for her cohort, but if you end up doing it then you best make sure that you are prepared for everything that might come at you.

 

[DoTheDrew]

I was curious if he was actually introducing a gential-exam bill, and surprise surprise, it's all tranny fearmongering.
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I have simply no idea how schools would determine children's sexes without pulling down their pants and checking out their junk. It's not like your sex is recorded at birth or anything, it's sadly a mystery and there's no way to learn it that would not violate the child.

Like all this other crap, it presupposes that we're all aboard with the myth of the passing tranny. And as we all know here, there's no such thing. Pictures and filters might make it difficult to tell online, but in real life, a tranny sticks out like a sore thumb. Just look at that Levine character Biden made Sec of Health. And that goes for both sexes - I saw a TiF this summer in the street and immediately clocked her - and she saw me doing it to, so I imagine there's some weepy livejournal entry somewhere about it. In other words, "genital inspections" is just another one for troonery bingo. Goddamn I'm tired of these wasters.

 

[Deepland Bystander]

I think it's not even just that disliking your chest and being painfully conscious of it doesn't imply that you are a man due to some hard-wired 'gender identity.' In fact, she might find it easier to not even think about it when thinking about the possibility (high probability) that she has ASD. Disconnect it from gender dysphoria, don't think about it as an alternative explanation for everything in a strict sense. That might be a much easier hurdle for her to clear and allow her to not feel guilt or negative emotions in perhaps seeing an autism specialist (one who has experience with girls/women - this is v. important). Instead just consider it part of her trying to generally understand both who she is and what she feels as well as allow her to get the best possible support.

A little off-topic, and also a tangential reply to @Crunchy Leaf post about social hierarchy, it's a little of my personal pet peeves here.

I largely agree with you here in general - and based on that girl we're currently talking about here in particular, she has a strong autistic vibe based on her description of the confusion of social expectations and sensory issues seem spot on. But seeing how a lot of people act towards this topic right now, We should be wary of seeing things in ASD lenses too much, and inadvertently cause a 'symptom pool' phenomenon just like how everything is written off as gender dysphoria today where people are not getting adequate help. Sometimes people are just weird or dorky, or having a lot of emotional baggage that they couldn't become socially adept in their youth.

A lot of talk about autism today does feel like egg_irl to me at times. We've got evangelical autists who seem to want to groom people into thinking that any nerdiness or social awkwardness are always a result of autism (Neurodiversity movement) - Eg. the reddit hellhole of r/aspergers, you'll see how people there think that any inconveniences are seen as autistic traits/DAE threads. I believe this is likely because they have limited theory of mind and thus less likely to understand that there are many different reasons why someone is socially awkward, troubled, and not a 'stereotypically chad' that isn't just autism.
I recently argued with an autistic guy who thought that having low self-esteem from rough upbringing, abusive parents and having conflicted rebelling-pleasing tedencies to authority figures means you're an autist... even if you don't have any other ASD traits... I wish I could make this up

Spoiler: Powerlevel explanation of the issue

This is largely based on my experiences, I've known a lot of people who were misdiagnosed with autism as children as well as psychologists who are concerned with this issue. It can limit a lot of people opportunities and make things worse

These children were misdiagnosed because they're difficult to deal with in school and struggled socially but they barely fit into the 'thought process' profile of ASD to begin with. Tend to be seen as paradoxically very high-functioning but does not respond well to autism-based treatments when theyre placed in special education, and their behaviours tend to deviate a lot from autism profile more and more as they grew older, and tend to not be qualified for autism diagnosis if assessed at older age if assessed again.
Many of these children were severely abused and traumatised and their inappropriate ASD diagnoses were a reflection of their parents purposefully covering abuses so it has never slipped into the factor of assessment, the diagnosis were 'forced' on them because it is an easy way to get extra education services or benefits or it is simply because the assessors were inexperienced and made a genuine mistake. (eg. https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeAdvice/comments/k9ihh9/parents_finally_told_me_i_wasnt_autistic_after/)

As with my old post - I see current autism label as simply a 'working model' for treatment that isn't yet precise. Though I entertain the idea that there might be a certain mental process that is characteristics of 'true autism'. My opinion is that it is stemmed from inborn sensory process, a certain type of rigid/'algorithmic' thinking, a deficit in context-understanding and nuance which results in a lot of social issues. This can present in the way that doesn't cause visibly enough problems, and they can adapt enough to be a useful member in society. But at the same time there can be many other ways people can be weird and socially maladjusted without the autistic thought-process at all. It's also very common for people to have a few low-level autistic traits but not enough to warrant a diagnosis.

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

A lot of talk about autism today does feel like egg_irl to me at times. We've got evangelical autists who seem to want to groom people into thinking that any nerdiness or social awkwardness are always a result of autism (Neurodiversity movement) - Eg. the reddit hellhole of r/aspergers, you'll see how people there think that any inconveniences are seen as autistic traits/DAE threads.

But it's not really harmful, is it? It can actually make more people seek a proper medical diagnosis and access therapeutic services.

 

[tiggles]

Let me check that one source real quick, ah yes, a review article about the symptoms and common characteristics of Autism from the prestigious... optometrists network?
Not only it's a review article that casually mentions a study, so a second-hand source, but the article doesn't cite anything for its claim that 21-50 percent of kids with ASD have strabismus, it directly leads to recommend some shit called "visual therapy", no assertion of sample size, no statement of p-value, no disclosures, NOTHING, because there's no citation, the only link it has leads to a strabismus surgery and symptoms Q&A, by the way, such a huge range is hot trash from a statistical viewpoint, regardless of how well you're doing it.
Do you know what's also a sympton of ASD? Higher than average IQ, half a standard deviation above the mean is the consensus.
And furthermore, if you're so interested in armchair psychology and internet pseudoscience perhaps you should look into the correlation between having a room temperature IQ and having the picture of a cat as your avatar, we got some fine first subjects around here.
Kiwifarms today, Nature tomorrow.

of all the inflammatory shit I’ve said about troons on this site, it was the correlation between wonk eye and autism that finally pissed somebody off enough to use a fresh sock account and fly off the handle.

More reading for you, my wonk-eyed, tranny liege: https://doi.org/10.3109/09273972.2013.786733

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10803-012-1475-2.pdf

 

[Popoto]

Could you elaborate on why that might be? Is it men treating women badly and sexualising them. Is it mostly lesbians who feel like this? Twenty years ago we didn't see this stuff where girls could just have their breasts removed if they wanted to. To me it looks like eating disorder 2.0.

For a significant number of girls, breast development is literally painful. The area becomes so sensitive, even the wind blowing the wrong way or clothing brushing up feels painful.

Getting leered at or teased because of the breasts is bad enough, sometimes gross people make a grab for the already incredibly painful breasts.

Some women revisit this pain (thankfully on a much lesser scale) with the hormonal flux that accompanies their menstrual cycles.

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I can believe the height loss (spinal collapse due to osteoporosis) but I have strong doubt about the D-cup.

Cup sizes are simply a function of "how far do the nipples stick out from chest". Due to the tendency for male gynaecosmastia to develop pointy/pendulous breasts, a surprising number of men "fit" E, F and G cups.

Since they have no actual breast fat tissue, the bra cups do not fill out completely though.

 

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of all the inflammatory shit I’ve said about troons on this site, it was the correlation between wonk eye and autism that finally pissed somebody off enough to create a sock account and fly off the handle.

More reading for you, my wonk-eyed, tranny liege: https://doi.org/10.3109/09273972.2013.786733

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10803-012-1475-2.pdf

Excuse me, but I can't help but notice this thoroughly cited scholarly article regarding disorders of the eye was only done by four ophthalmologists, does not state a confidence interval, lacks the Oxford comma, does not use the British-English spelling of words, and wasn't posted on the calculated optimal day of the week for medical studies to be published, also known as "Wednesday." Maybe try using a more rigorously researched article I also won't read, and you might just convince me to change my subjective stance on an objective matter which I already decided I wasn't budging on to begin with.

 

[Gay Communist Gun Club]

Like all this other crap, it presupposes that we're all aboard with the myth of the passing tranny. And as we all know here, there's no such thing. Pictures and filters might make it difficult to tell online, but in real life, a tranny sticks out like a sore thumb. Just look at that Levine character Biden made Sec of Health. And that goes for both sexes - I saw a TiF this summer in the street and immediately clocked her - and she saw me doing it to, so I imagine there's some weepy livejournal entry somewhere about it. In other words, "genital inspections" is just another one for troonery bingo. Goddamn I'm tired of these wasters.

When there was that shitshow a few years ago over the gay guy outing the transman on Survivor, they interviewed the dude and asked how he knew the contestant was transgender, and more or less said, "Duh just look at him."

When did you know Zeke was transgender?
I suspected Zeke was transgender from the moment I saw him. And there were clues here and there throughout the whole thing. We didn’t know who Zeke was when he showed up. We didn’t have the luxury of watching his first season. [Editor note: Season 34 began filming before season 33 aired.] I don’t want to go into this whole this, that and the other about how I knew because I don’t think that’s respectful, not only to Zeke but to other trans people.

I mean, he's not wrong.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

Imagine Snoopy in Fierce Vulture posture.

Now imagine Fierce Vulture sticking his head in a bucket. His nose would hit the bottom, but no other part of his head would touch the bucket at all.

This is why troon Ds are not really Ds.

 

[diroama]

Browsing through the twitter output of the usual troon gobshites it strikes me how they've decided the only thing standing between them and 100% acceptance of their gender identity by society is those pesky 'GC' boogeywomen.

I'm starting to think there's a bigger delusion than the one that tells them that men are women, and women are men: that everybody else agrees and only a small handful of nazi antifeminists are pushing back.

This just isn't a thing many people think about - but when they do, in my experience - their opinion falls way short of the acceptance these people demand. They might be prepared to treat them as women, or even allow them access to womens spaces (as long as they pass) but they dont think they actually are women. This 'TERF war' is just a distraction from the bigger problem they face.

 

[Old Fart]

I have simply no idea how schools would determine children's sexes without pulling down their pants and checking out their junk. It's not like your sex is recorded at birth or anything, it's sadly a mystery and there's no way to learn it that would not violate the child.

I'm pretty sure the girls in the showers after phys ed class will be able to tell there's an intruder there, and won't shut up about it.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

But it's not really harmful, is it? It can actually make more people seek a proper medical diagnosis and access therapeutic services.

It encourages people to see their awkwardness as an innate part of themselves, and not something that can be worked through. I see autistic advocates online saying you shouldn’t try to change your autistic traits.
Same with all the talk about masking — we all wear a mask in different social situations! Nobody is their ‘real self’ at the alumni networking event. True autists don’t understand why social niceties are good, and they try to convince people that, say, there’s no need for small talk. But this will have a serious effect on your career and personal life, so it concerns me when I see people get sucked into the autism advocacy world.

 

[Karen™]

Cup sizes are simply a function of "how far do the nipples stick out from chest". Due to the tendency for male gynaecosmastia to develop pointy/pendulous breasts, a surprising number of men "fit" E, F and G cups.

Since they have no actual breast fat tissue, the bra cups do not fill out completely though.

This might only be funny to women, but you're so right about the tube moobs that r/abrathatfits had to make this page just to correct for it.

The method used on /r/abrathatfits for cis women, according to available data, overestimates cup size for the average trans woman."

 

[Governor Jeb Bush]

Anyone remember the whole "Skirt go spinny" shit?

@Dead Eye doesn't remember, what a boomer.

 

[Whetfahrt Cheesebörger]

But it's not really harmful, is it? It can actually make more people seek a proper medical diagnosis and access therapeutic services.

Yes, just like how these AGPs go out and seek help for their fetish.

They sell autism like they do troonism. It's good and is an instant pass to say or do whatever you want so you can call -isms and -phobia if anyone speaks against you. Peddling disorders as if they're a badge of honour does a lot more damage than you think it does which is how we've ended up where we are.

 

[Garbage.Theory]

I find a lot of butch females and FTM transgenders tend to look more androgynous than masculine in my honest opinion. Females who usually wear mens' clothes often tend to look more "gender-neutral", especially if they're very waifish and skinny.

For MTF's, there's always something that completely sticks out, no matter how feminine or female they try to look.

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I honestly couldn't tell if this was an FTM or MTF at first ngl. I think they're wearing a lot of clothing underneath to cover any features that give away their biological sex. But what gives it away is their facial structure.


I also saw this "nonbinary" dude as well.

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I actually thought they were a trans FTM, but it turns out they're visibly male.

I’m beginning to suspect that today’s “non binary” is simply yesterday’s androgynous bisexual.

I saw someone once, I won't say where, but who concluded he was a D cup because he wrapped some measuring tape around his chest as tight as possible, then around the further point of his moobs, and said "4 inch difference! See? I'm a D cup! Get fucked, TERFS!"

I mean, that’s how it supposed to work, but cup size is a volume measurement, so it’s not so cut and dry. There’s more volume in a 42D cup than a 32D cup, so even though these folks have broad chest measurement, there’s no volume to fill out, partially because their breasts don’t grow that big, and partially because men are shaped like inverted triangles so upper chest measurements are likely to be larger than lower ones.