US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
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Basically, it seems to me that the DNC is presuming that their electorate is so dumb they will just fall in line.
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Actually I think on that angle they got greedy and thought they could double-dip to rally both the Indian and Black vote, because "hey it worked for Obama!"

Problem is that when someone is half-black and half-white in the US, they just default to being percieved as black; So far the reaction I am seeing about her mixed race is that her halves are canceling each other out.
 
ConfederateIrishman powiedział(a):
Actually I think on that angle they got greedy and thought they could double-dip to rally both the Indian and Black vote, because "hey it worked for Obama!"

Problem is that when someone is half-black and half-white in the US, they just default to being percieved as black; So far the reaction I am seeing about her mixed race is that her halves are canceling each other out.
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My impression is that both her halves are being canceled out by her being a ruthless political prostitute that was actively unjust to black men.
 
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Fun fact, if elected Kamala Harris will be the first VP to never have kids and the first white house resident to never raise kids. She got married at the age of 50 for the first time to a lawyer with grown children.
Even James Buchanan who was never married became the legal guardian of his young nephew.
Harris is the ultimate career war witch and "devil wears prada" type. The epitome of a heartless cunt that slept her way into political power and never loved a child.
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I knew there was something about Kamala that just felt "off" to me, and I think it might have been this.
 
X Prime powiedział(a):
Basically, it seems to me that the DNC is presuming that their electorate is so dumb they will just fall in line.
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Except anyone who's gonna fall in has already done so as of November 2016... the only thing the endless Trumpbad has done since is kept them riled up and angry enough to trample young children and pets in the rush to the polls this year.

But is hasn't won over anyone who'se a fence sitter or peeled off support from the other side, Trumps approval, despite everything, is right where it was at this time last year, give or take a point. It started out in the dumps, but once people realized he wasn't starting death camps or nuclear wars, most middle of the road people said "Not my kind of guy, but, until something better comes along"

The crop of absolute weak seltzer the DNC gave you to pick from this year isn't that. The only question is if those perpetual fanatics who will vote blue even if Biden ritually cooks and eats a baby on a livestream are all they need to win. Because it's all they'll GET.

Because the fantasy cartoon version of trump, looking at his Oval Office calendar for November and declaring, out loud:

"An election... I'LL STEAL IT! NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!!!!!"

Can only be accepted as truth by those who made up their minds long ago.
 
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You guys are still misunderstanding the dem electorate in the same way establishment dems do.

What "worked for Obama" wasn't just that he was black. He went out of his way to frame himself as a progressive, and people truly (at least in the beginning) believed it. He had a large and enthusiastic turnout among young people and others who had been disillusioned with politics and hated the "status quo" of things, and without that I'm not sure he would have even been successful.
 
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You guys are still misunderstanding the dem electorate in the same way establishment dems do.

What "worked for Obama" wasn't just that he was black. He went out of his way to frame himself as a progressive, and people truly (at least in the beginning) believed it. He had a large and enthusiastic turnout among young people and others who had been disillusioned with politics and hated the "status quo" of things, and without that I'm not sure he would have even been successful.
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It's why "Obama Nostalgia" , though aggressively sold, doesn't work.

Those people grew up, or got disillusioned by the fact the Black Jeebus bombed the Middle East and sold out to the insurance companies. And, if not dropping their delusions altogether, at least now don't think mainstream Democrats of 2020 can deliver that promised luxury-commie-love-world anymore.
 
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I knew there was something about Kamala that just felt "off" to me, and I think it might have been this.
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The only vice president to get elected with no kids was Schuyler Colfax but he had a son while in office.
Kamala will certainly set a precedent as the first VP who never raised a child.
The weirdest thing about Kamala is her only known relationship before marrying her husband in 2014 at the age of 50 was with corrupt and FBI investigated crooked San Fran mayor Willie Brown who is 31 years older than her.
She dated a man almost old enough to be her grandfather for political influence. Willie Brown has even stated publicly she only fucked him to further her career.
She is the most anti-family values candidate to ever run on a major party ticket.

Kamala Harris has broken up tens of thousands of families due to overprosecuting while a prosecutor and AG of California. More than 90% of the people she locked up were young black men with children.
Harris hates kids, an absolute nutcase too dangerous for public office.
 
TowinKarz powiedział(a):
It's why "Obama Nostalgia" , though aggressively sold, doesn't work.
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It doesn't work because Obama had basically no record, so he could be credibly sold as some kind of Black Jesus to galvanize the normally-low black vote.

That won't work for Harris, for various reasons. This is just the Dems being extremely overconfident in their media puppetmastering skills again.
 
X Prime powiedział(a):
It doesn't work because Obama had basically no record, so he could be credibly sold as some kind of Black Jesus to galvanize the normally-low black vote.

That won't work for Harris, for various reasons. This is just the Dems being extremely overconfident in their media puppetmastering skills again.
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I honestly don't get how they plan to cover for her. Her record as AG is well-known, the way Tulsi sunk her presidency bid is a virtual meme even among liberals, and she doesn't even have the proper BIPOC credentials, being Indian. There's already a loud Twitter faction that absolutely detest her, and good luck convincing the ACAB crowd that Copmala wouldn't suddenly turn police state on them.

I just don't see it. Shillary, in 2016, had more (online) enthusiasm than this sack of shit, and she was virtually unlikeable to begin with. Are they banking on these shrill harpies to #VoteBlueNoMatterWhat and use Copmala to lure in the boomers? Is that the play now?
 
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Kamala Harris is officially Joe Biden’s running mate. Michigan supporters say it’s about time.
Michigan supporters of Kamala Harris popped bottles of wine and champagne to celebrate her selection to join Joe Biden on the presidential ticket in November.

The California senator was in Detroit last year for her first Michigan visit as a primary contender when Harris said political calculations about defeating President Donald Trump often leave Black voters out of the conversation. More than a year later, Harris is the first woman of color nominated for national office by a major political party, and Michigan Democrats said her selection will drive enthusiasm among voters Biden needs to win this critical swing state.


U.S. Rep. Brenda Lawrence, D-Southfield, was the lone member of Congress from Michigan to endorse Harris’ unsuccessful presidential campaign. Lawrence, who represents important Democratic battlegrounds in Wayne and Oakland counties, said was “over the moon” after news of Biden’s selection broke.

“When I looked at that crowded field, to see a qualified compassionate, black woman putting out her name to run for the President of the United States, it caught my eye,” Lawrence said. “It caught my heart to know that she has the strength, the tenacity, to stand up and say ‘I deserve to sit in this seat, just like anyone else.‘”


Lawrence endorsed Harris in August 2019, very early in the primary, and later supported Biden after Harris dropped out last December. She had pressed the Biden campaign to support Harris or U.S. Rep. Karen Bass, D-Calif.


“How amazing is it for our ticket to include a child of immigrants, a woman who fought through all the stereotypes and all the challenges to successfully go to law school, to position herself to be elected to the largest state in the Union, to be the Attorney General, to win the Senate seat,” Lawrence said. “For me, as a black woman in America, I am over the top; not because she’s a Black woman, but because she’s a qualified Black woman.”

In Oakland County, Fems for Dems Board Chair Julie Campbell-Bode spoke with MLive shortly after holding a celebratory call with hundreds of Democratic activists. The moment called for a glass of champagne, she said.

Campbell-Bode said Harris’ inclusion adds much-needed diversity to the presidential ticket, which features four white men all above the age of 60. Harris is 22 years younger than Biden and is the daughter of immigrants from India and Jamaica.


“It was hard when we ended up with another pale stale male,” Campbell-Bode said. “There was a degree of disappointment that we had so many qualified women and ended up with the same old same old. We’ve been waiting for this moment by which our voices are heard and we feel like the work that was put in the last four years has really culminated in this moment, which is why we’re celebrating.”

Holly Smith, 51, of Grosse Pointe Woods, has admired Harris for a long time, dating back to before her presidential run, which she supported. Her joining the ticket was a jolt of energy.

“The minute she was on the ticket I was actually excited. I certainly think Joe’s a swell guy and all that, but I wasn’t excited about it, per se,” Smith said.

Now, she’s considering volunteering for the campaign. And she likes that Harris is a woman of color, “so, it’s not sort of a ‘here we are again, a choice between two old white guys.’”

Campbell-Bode said Harris’ progressive politics also help balance the ticket when compared to Biden’s more moderate Democratic policies. While Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer was among the contenders to join Biden on the campaign trail, Campbell-Bode said Harris will inspire more enthusiasm.

“I feel like Biden himself is a candidate that moderate Michiganders can relate to,” she said. “Gretchen did well across the state but certainly there are parts of the state that were boldly red. I don’t know that her as VP would have made an enormous difference from that perspective.”

Brandon Currin, a 32-year-old supporter in Holt, said after the VP pick was announced on Tuesday he made a donation to the Biden campaign to show his support.


“I was supporting Kamala when she was running for the nomination and her being chosen for Vice President has made me more enthusiastic for Joe Biden. She has a strong record and is a proven fighter,” he said.

Renay Weiss-Stansell, 41, of Livonia, said Harris has been her number one choice since after the 2016 election.

When she heard the news, “I was so excited. I have been hoping for this decision since she got out of the primary race,” Weiss-Stansell said.

She is a school counselor and active member of groups like Moms Demand Action and Planned Parenthood that Harris also supports.

“I think that she is super smart and tough and compassionate, all in one. I think she has the characteristics and qualities of someone that is a leader and can fix us and lead us back to the direction that we want to be in,” she said.

Plus, Weiss-Stansell thinks Biden and Harris are in a good position to take on the Republican Trump-Pence ticket. She described Pence as a sort of passive observer of Trump but said it’s clear Biden values Harris’s input “and I think she’d be a very active participant in the administration.”

Weiss-Stansell is a delegate to the Democratic National Convention and even more excited to cast her vote for Biden now, she said.

David Dulio, director of the Center for Civic Engagement at Oakland University, said Harris could help Biden firm up support in the Black community and progressive Democrats. Michigan Democrats are relying on high turnout in Detroit and its outlying suburbs after Trump narrowly won the state by 11,000 votes in 2016.


Still, Dulio said there’s not much evidence that vice presidential picks will cause a drastic change in voter turnout.

“If he had not chosen an African American woman, the risk of having not great turnout was significant,” Dulio said. “I think it’s more about keeping energy levels and excitement levels up rather than boosting them.”

Harris visited Wayne County multiple times in 2019, including two appearances at NAACP events, a town hall organized by the American Federation of Teachers and a visit to a Dearborn elementary school. Her last visit came in July 2019, the day after she sparred with Biden during a Democratic debate in Detroit in July 2019 over “Medicare for All.”

Lawrence said Biden’s choice shows courage.

“For the Democratic Party, we have been given that extra push,” she said. “We can unify this country and work toward that perfect union to ensure that America knows that all voices are at the table, that there is not this exclusive club.”
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"Michigan supporters of Kamala Harris popped bottles of wine and champagne to celebrate her selection"
Got that black vote locked down.

" “If he had not chosen an African American woman, the risk of having not great turnout was significant,” Dulio said."
We don't want the best person for the job, we want the black person for job.

“It was hard when we ended up with another pale stale male,” Campbell-Bode said.
Behold White privilege in the land of the patriarchy.
 
X Prime powiedział(a):
It doesn't work because Obama had basically no record, so he could be credibly sold as some kind of Black Jesus to galvanize the normally-low black vote.

That won't work for Harris, for various reasons. This is just the Dems being extremely overconfident in their media puppetmastering skills again.
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I think you're both sort of saying the same thing, and I agree. Obama was a relatively fresh face in politics and could easily pull the wool over peoples eyes to garner an enthusiastic base of support that were willing to put their "Hope" into him in order for "Change". Kamala Harris has a record with unfavorable shit that people have to suspend their disbelief over. Sure, the old boomer black voters will still by and large follow Obama around and do whatever he wants them to do, but those people aren't the ones that needed to be won over anyway.

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"Michigan supporters of Kamala Harris popped bottles of wine and champagne to celebrate her selection"
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all five of them lol
 
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