Creative works you enjoyed until politics happened - "How politics made me hate Welcome to Nightvale and other things"

FIFA has already been shit since 2003 when they removed creativity like redesignomg team uniforms and colors.

Then after 2011 it went to real shit with the soundtracks being replaced with African music shit.

And now it's even more shit when they removed CR7 due to the usual MeeToo lies.

Oh come on, let's be fair. FIFA has not been any good since Road to World Cup '98. It wasn't politics that happened to it, it was money, and greed. They realised that rather than innovate or suchlike, let's just change the players around and release the same game with a marginal graphical upgrade. And add more microtransactions.

The same applies to pretty much all EA Sports games.
 
That sucks, and assuming the tech hasnt been kept up with nor advanced it probably isn't coming back.


This does disprove some theories and ideas though. :thinking:

It isn't. You know how the Apollo Program contains literal lost technology because one of the materials in the Saturn V rocket was classified and the plans for it were destroyed in order to prevent the Soviets using it in their ICBMs, and the factories that made it were dismantled, and the factories that made the machines that go in the factory that made it were dismantled? Well, it's the same with Concorde.

We can still do supersonic flight. In fact, supersonic flight has been a thing since the 1950s. It was fairly easy, once the jet engine was developed, to go faster than sound. The problem is this. Supersonic flight is really stressful mechanically on the plane, the engines, and also anyone and anything on board. Building a fast jet fighter was easy compared to Concorde because, say, an F-16 is small and fighter jocks are used to being thrown around so much they have to be strapped in. So you can make the cockpit as cramped and utilitarian as you like and outfit the pilot with a pressure suit (as they did in the SR-71). Basically, as long as the pilot doesn't black out or have their eyeballs explode, it's just fine.

Concorde, on the other hand, had to be able to do all that, and have 100+ passengers and a full crew able to kick back and relax and not be strapped in ultra tight to carbon fibre reinforced seats, wear pressure suits, and gasp for breath. To get up to Mach 2 without using absolutely stupid quantities of fuel, they made it so the cruising altitude was 60,000 feet (higher than the ceiling of most contemporary jet fighters), thus less air resistance. But that also means less lift because of the thinner atmosphere. It also means that it needs to be able to accelerate harder than a standard airliner could hope to in order to get to that altitude in the first place while still being comfy for the passengers, which means it has to be built to incredible G-forces even though it's not doing high stress manoeuvres.

Even when cruising the plane is physically shorter because of the forces loaded on it than otherwise. You know how the SR-71 Blackbird's fuel tank is deliberately leaky at ground level so it doesn't burst at high altitudes? That's Concorde's entire fuselage. There was a story that someone dropped their hat while boarding and it fell between two of the bulkheads, and when they landed they found it had been embedded into the structure of the plane. Think how excessively engineered it had to be to basically move things at spy plane / interceptor speed but first class comfort. It basically required a whole parallel industry to produce. And that industry is all gone now.

To bring it back, they would need to pretty much start a whole industry from the ground up. The workshops and factories and assembly lines at Boeing or Airbus or Lockheed Martin just aren't set up for this. They're set up to do big slow planes, or small fast planes. Big fast planes are something else entirely.
 
i have heard about that from time to time myself. but it seems like it has been in development hell for a while, so i hope its not going anywhere currently. also the fact the Tolkien estate has been really holding on to the IP since their falling out with Peter Jackson, which is good. with Chris dead, and his son not seeming too worried about the IP compared to his dad (at least in my eyes), i hope he is not ready to just let anyone walk in and add to the lore.


but yes, i will most likely consider it fan fiction. i just hope it has less blatant self inserts than Sonichu...but with writers these days, who knows.
Amazon recently fired a very large chunk of the creative team behind their LotR series. That may be good or bad depending on your POV on Amazon. While Chris' death does leave me concerned about the future of Tolkien, I'm choosing to believe Amazon having more elements of actual businesses, as opposed to other tech companies that are a facsimile of a real business, they understand the concept of go woke go broke. Until proven otherwise :optimistic:
 
Oh come on, let's be fair. FIFA has not been any good since Road to World Cup '98. It wasn't politics that happened to it, it was money, and greed. They realised that rather than innovate or suchlike, let's just change the players around and release the same game with a marginal graphical upgrade. And add more microtransactions.

The same applies to pretty much all EA Sports games.
Up to 2002, you could customize a lot of stuff even the logos. After that they removed the creativity but gameplay was decent till like FIFA09 or FIFA11. Coincidently where the soundtracks also became more "diverse".
 
The entire superhero genre (minus The Punisher, of course)

Granted, I hated the MCU practically from the get-go but I could still enjoy some superhero movies and shows and even the occasional comic books I'd occasionally read on a lark before the capeshit in general became one of those SJW shibboleths alongside Steven Universe, punk and emo culture, or Harry Potter (at least until JK pissed off the troons) with Marvel in particular being one of the wokester icons thanks to the popularity of the MCU and Disney's woke take on things in general.

The only comic icon that wasn't taken over was ironically a Marvel standby and also the one who I actually would semi-regularly read the comics of, and of course I'm talking about The Punisher

Even then, the right-wing Boomer conservatives and unironic "boogaloo" types are pretty cringe with their Punisher skulls although it's slightly less awful than the dangerhair punk girls or the bearded soy face bugmen who are zealot Marvel consoomers. Slightly.
This actually explains so much about Peetz
 
Netflix original series in general. There used to be some good ones, now everything they make has to have political discussions forced in.
Netflix shows in a nutshell: First season is great, season 2 ranges anywhere from goood but not as good as the first to makes the first look like dogshit, season 3 is good but a step down and socjus bs is stepped up. Everything afterwards is shit
 
There's a LoTR series coming, so it's pretty much given.
Just consider it a fanfic.

I want to believe that they saw the dumpster fire that Netflix's adaptation of The Witcher was and would not go all woke with a bunch of african elves and social signaling about orcs being simply victims of systemic racism. But i would not keep my hopes high
 
Used to like the Chilling Tales for Dark Nights Podcast until wokeness started creeping in. They shoehorned in diversity like "Hood Horror"

Is this a fucking joke? How are creepy tales about horrible murders and monsters woke just because they are mainly about black people?? These stories are anything but woke. Listening to tales about black people getting harmed in the most cruesome ways is a wokesters worst nightmare.

You having a problem with stories about black people doesn't make them woke just because you say so. Are creepypasta about asian characters also woke?? Implying that Chilling tales is a sjw podcast with a woke/ diversity agenda is fucking dumb.

If it was Akihabara horror instead of Hood horror you wouldn't give a shit.
 
What the fuck is wrong with you people, reading books written in your own lifetimes? Or worse, thinking there's any sort of value in cinematic adaptations of literary works? Utterly pathetic. No excuse if you prefer genre fiction. If you're a SF/F fag, there's enough Isaac Asimov, H.P. Lovecraft, Arthur C. Clarke, and Robert E. Howard to last a good little while, even before you get to the more niche authors like Stanley Weinbaum or Clark Ashton Smith, or the vast numbers of surprisingly competent hacks who filled the pages of the magazines of the Golden Age of Science Fiction, or the more outré authors of Victorian and Edwardian "scientific romances" like George Griffith. If you're a fan of iron hard SF, well, frankly, many of the works of H.G. Wells or Jules Verne contain more passages of genuine scientific interest than anything written in this millennium. If you like detective fiction, I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that the heyday of the genre passed before any Kiwifarmer was born. From Agatha Christie to Dashiell Hammett to Rex Stout to Conan Doyle, there's another several hundred books to chew your way through. And there's plenty of Gothic novels, Dumas-ian historical romances, and lovely comedies of the P.G. Wodehouse or Jerome K. Jerome variety to read, too. And then you can expand into poetry, or the sophisticated literary canon, or the wild accounts of medieval hagiographies, or even to the surviving Hellenistic novels, which have been aging in their barrels for more than two thousand years at this point.

In general, if you feel betrayed by the false god of Progress, the best revenge is to acknowledge the very real superiority - from an artistic perspective, at least - of the past.
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
Is this a fucking joke? How are creepy tales about horrible murders and monsters woke just because they are mainly about black people?? These stories are anything but woke. Listening to tales about black people getting harmed in the most cruesome ways is a wokesters worst nightmare.

You having a problem with stories about black people doesn't make them woke just because you say so. Are creepypasta about asian characters also woke?? Implying that Chilling tales is a sjw podcast with a woke/ diversity agenda is fucking dumb.

If it was Akihabara horror instead of Hood horror you wouldn't give a shit.
Yeah, unless the hosts said something dumb like that the murders are automatically worse because the victims were black, it isn't IdPol just to talk about them.
 
Everything comic book/genre tv related until I found the writer's/artist's twitter. I know "death of the author" and all that, but Jesus some (most really) of them are completely deranged. I have to count my blessings that most mangakas are recluse. I reached the point that every time politics comes in a podcast be it pro/anti something I tune out. You're a goddamn artist/podcaster/whatever not a political journalist/commentator. I heard every shallow commentary I can and reiterating the same talking points over and over again to your echo chamber (who for some reason keep eating it up every time) is boring and tedious to sit through. Just do your job, don't alienate half your audience, and profit. It's not rocket science. Now I am mad at the internet.
 
Yeah, unless the hosts said something dumb like that the murders are automatically worse because the victims were black, it isn't IdPol just to talk about them.

Tbf, I can see how "the real horror is racism" can get pretty annoying. Like those shitty nosleep stories where what is supposed to be scary is rape.

Don't know if thats the case here, but Ive rolled my eyes at countless short stories that try to make the twist that the evil ghosts are actually good and the real monster is injustice in society.
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
Tbf, I can see how "the real horror is racism"
See the book Lovecraft Country.

Got it for free when I was subbed to audibles.

The protagonist is black and is traveling through the United States for research on the Green Book, updating it as necessary. Alright, original concept and a good vehicle for why they are going from point A to point B and getting into their adventures.

But every goddamn story is "what's worst then cosmic horrors beyond our comprehension? Then the nihilistic dread of realization we are a speck of dust floating in a giant uncaring universe? Then alien Gods and their worshippers far advance then us?

Racism.


I think the current Hollywood houseboy Jordan Peele is making a movie based on it because of course.
 
Large segments of the comic industry died for me when so many jumped on Twitter this last decade and decided to gatekeep and purge. Good writers like Chuck Dixon were literally blacklisted just for being moderate right leaning. (Despite doing their professional best and not letting politics seep into their writing.)

Dropped Netflix originals when everything became woke and sjw filled. For example, Orange is the New Black had an interesting comedy idea, but quickly turned into institutional racism and msygongy drivel. All men in the show became incompetent or idiots in later seasons. Also, all redheads being removed or recast as black is really the worst kind of "benevolent racism."

Getting there with a lot of different fantasy settings and tabletop RPG. I really dislike the ongoing trend of removing anything "offensive" and completely stripping the sexuality elements of some settings. (Barbarian stories ala Conan are now effectively extinct. Literal early feminist icons like Red Sonja are now seen as sexist despite being a full equal equivalent to OG Conan.) I really dread what WOTC will do with an eventual 6th edition of Dungeons and Dragons now that they've come out and said "no more race bonuses" and "orcs are racist."
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
Gone wokes a bit of a misnomer, 40k always had a subtext of satire of hard right goverments and a direct statement on theocricies and imperialism being horrible. Even now the setting explicitly acknowlages these arnt good things. Naturally some fans miss the point and mistake the Imperium for conventional good guys. I once read a white supremicist showering 40k in praise for it's positive portrayal of facism which it's hard to know even where to begin in explaining why he was wrong.
Their's been some rumblings of woke stuff in the setting, more black characters (good thing-white bread galaxy was weird) more women (good thing, sisters of battle and esher rock) but it's been more complimentry to the setting than destrimental. Most of the miss steps are in the fiction and the setting seems to be keeping it''s batshit insane imagery. GW seems prudent enough to know the correct approach is to make more models rather than ret-con female spess marines into the fluff.

Weirdly they've actually leaned more into a least one of the most horrible right wing habits as the Emperors divinity has been implicitly confirmed wereas earlier work dropped massive hints that not only is he not a god but the Chaos' gods probably arnt either. I mean if you're going to suggest worshipping men as divine as legit how 'woke' can you really get?
Then again Marvel are writting their comics so this could all go south.
It's sad that 40k's satire of the far right now seems to be a satire of the far left in some ways. Perhaps it's proof that there is more overlap between the two than they care to admit?
A part of me would love to see GW troll these complainers by introducing Trans as strictly followers of Chaos, and that the whole thing was a joke pulled on them by Tzeench. (Who else would support this? Nurgle maybe, but it would strictly be the result of his "blessings," the loss of ability to feel sexual fulfillment would offend Slaanesh, and Khorne would be upset that the cutting did not happen in battle.)

Truthfully, the only 40k I read regularly is Ciaphas Cain, but I've been reading the siege of Terra series and some of the Horus Heresy.
 
i'm just here preemptively to say if the new Sandman series on netflix changes at all to fit modern wokeness i might have to go nasim najafi aghdan on the netflix head offices. it is going to break my heart to see it changed in any way, but if dream is now "woke" im going to have a fit.
 
i'm just here preemptively to say if the new Sandman series on netflix changes at all to fit modern wokeness i might have to go nasim najafi aghdan on the netflix head offices. it is going to break my heart to see it changed in any way, but if dream is now "woke" im going to have a fit.
You know it will, and with Gaiman's blessing, no less. Sandman pushed the boundaries for a mainstream book when it was published, the series will take those boundaries and sodomise them with a three legged hot pink lama in a pirate suit.
 
You know it will, and with Gaiman's blessing, no less. Sandman pushed the boundaries for a mainstream book when it was published, the series will take those boundaries and sodomise them with a three legged hot pink lama in a pirate suit.
i'll tolerate it if its just little things here and there. if they change the dialogue and some plot line to fit modern times though, thats what will hurt. i feel like the original story is timeless and can be applied to today. it doesn't need to be assimilated to modern politics whatsoever. unfortunately though, i think you're 100% right on that. i'm really dreading it because i'm going to have to watch it of course....

can i just say my #1 qualm with italready is that it's not animated. that already kills a lot of the magic for me.
 
Also, all redheads being removed or recast as black is really the worst kind of "benevolent racism."
Why is it always redheads? They do it to other characters too, but it seems like a hard rule nowadays that any redheaded woman character needs to be blackwashed.

It's sad that 40k's satire of the far right now seems to be a satire of the far left in some ways. Perhaps it's proof that there is more overlap between the two than they care to admit?
A part of me would love to see GW troll these complainers by introducing Trans as strictly followers of Chaos, and that the whole thing was a joke pulled on them by Tzeench. (Who else would support this? Nurgle maybe, but it would strictly be the result of his "blessings," the loss of ability to feel sexual fulfillment would offend Slaanesh, and Khorne would be upset that the cutting did not happen in battle.)
I'm pretty sure SJW's have already REEE'd a bit because bisexuals are most frequently mentioned in relation to Slaanesh and hermaphrodites are only mentioned in relation to Slaanesh. But that's more of a consequence of Slaanesh being a literal sex god in a setting where sex and sexuality are otherwise almost never mentioned.

I would say that the Imperium is still pretty clearly right wing. SJW's big problem with it is that it portrays a fundamentalist theocratic dictatorship with fascist elements (although not fully fascist) as something more nuanced than a pack of mustache twirling villains. Of course on the other side you've got autistic knuckle dragging weirdos who white knight for the Imperium to an obnoxious degree and act like the Emperor is a replacement for their absentee father or something. I hate to pull the "both sides" argument, but it's clear that there are people on both sides who don't get nuance.

Far left is more represented by the Tau, who, even though they've got a dark side that's getting progressively darker as they get more development, still get off relatively lightly in their depiction compared to the Imperium. But the Tau have also been around for far less time and gotten far less attention than the Imperium.
 
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