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Agreement is finally in Number 10's grasp.

The text that's taken months of officials' blood, sweat and tears has been agreed, at least at a technical level.

Now a paper's being drafted to present to the Cabinet tomorrow ready for the government's hoped-for next step - political approval from Theresa May's team, even though many of them have deep reservations.

Remember in the last 24 hours some of them have been warning privately that what's on the table is just not acceptable, and will never get through Parliament. Some even believe the prime minister ought to walk away.

But the government machine is now cranking into action. With a text ready, their long-planned rollout can begin.
The BBC's chief political correspondent Vicki Young said some ministers had "deep concerns" about the shape of the likely agreement, which critics say could leave the UK trapped in a customs agreement with the EU.

She said they would have to decide whether they could support it, and if not, whether to resign from cabinet.

Leading Brexiteers have already condemned the draft agreement, Boris Johnson saying it would see the UK remain in the customs union and "large parts" of the single market.

He told the BBC it was "utterly unacceptable to anyone who believes in democracy". "Am I going to vote against it. The answer is yes," he added.

And Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said "given the shambolic nature of the negotiations, this is unlikely to be the good deal for the country".

'Failure to deliver'
Both the UK and EU want to schedule a special summit of European leaders at the end of November to sign off the reportedly 500 page withdrawal deal and the much shorter outline declaration of their future relationship.

Brussels has insisted it would only agree to put the wheels in motion for the summit if agreement can be reached on the issue of the Irish border.

Ambassadors from the remaining 27 EU states will meet in Brussels on Wednesday.

If a deal is agreed with the EU, Mrs May then needs to persuade her party - and the rest of Parliament - to support it in a key Commons vote.

Conservative Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg said if details of the text reported by Irish broadcaster RTE were true, the UK would become a "vassal state" with Northern Ireland "being ruled from Dublin".

Such an agreement "failed to deliver on Brexit" and the cabinet should reject it, he told the BBC.

"I think what we know of this deal is deeply unsatisfactory," he said. "There seems to be growing opposition to these very poor proposals."

Meanwhile, following pressure from all sides of the Commons, ministers have agreed to provide MPs with a legal assessment of the implications for the UK of the Irish backstop and other controversial aspects of any deal.

Cabinet Office minister David Lidington said Attorney General Geoffrey Cox would make a statement to MPs and take questions ahead of the final vote on any Brexit deal.

MPs, he said, would get to see "a full reasoned position statement laying out the government's both political and also legal position on the proposed withdrawal agreement".

The Democratic Unionists' Westminster leader Nigel Dodds said he was pleased Parliament had "asserted its will" as it was imperative that all parties to the deal were clear in what way and for how long it would "legally bind" the UK.

Chequers minus it is. Whatever happened to no deal being better than a bad deal.

We should have been far more aggressive in negotiations with Brussels. They all but stated immediately after the referendum that they were going to bumrape us for having the temerity to leave, so we should have told them that unless and until they got serious, we'd basically go full on tax haven mode and steal all their big companies - and funnel money and support to Eurosceptics in Italy, Spain, Greece, Poland, and Hungary.
 
Re Douglas Ross, the literal Mason in the black: his majority is only about 500 so frankly he can’t afford blowback from constituents. Hence the virtue signalling resignation from bag carrying
 
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I'm personally voting for Tim at the next general election . Getting sick of these construction sites and the noise tbh lads.
 
I like to imagine him and George Soros sharing a pint of emotional support ice cream while sobbing uncontrollably over the EU burning down no matter how much cash they try to smother the fires with as of late.....

Piers is a weird case, pre-Covid he was at least willing to recognise as a remainer that they had lost the referendum and the other remainers needed to get over it + the whole getting on with Trump thing.

Then he's basically been shedding most of that during this crisis. Yelling at the gov for not doing better day by day, getting on every bandwagon about how badly it's being handled, and deciding he's done with Trump. Which is chucking away what actually made him vaguely unique to most news presenters at the moment.

I have been outta the loop on the whole UK ducking off from the EU. Has anything happened yet? Or are we stuck in Groundhog Day?

There's a deadline for December 31st 2020 for any EU/UK final "divorce" agreement. The EU has hinted at wanting extensions due to Covid, but the UK govt continues to say they will stick to the originally planned date. It's not like any of this negotiation couldn't be done with some Zoom calls anyway. Meanwhile the UK has been forging ahead with trade talks with US and Canada.
 
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Cummings is a twat and should be fired for bring the Govt into disrepute,but the media are clearly on a witch hunt.Im agahast at the amount of coverage this shit has received over the last few days considering whats happening to us normal folk

Yes he hates the media,but the media has been shit for years,ffs the top of /ukpoltics has a sperg from alister campbell https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/gqzlzl/alistair_campbells_bbc_interview_for_anyone_who/

This the motherfucker directly who contributed to a dissenting/whistleblower voice against the iraqi war to neck himself,i wonder why we got to this point of garbage media 🧐 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly_(weapons_expert)
 
If Trump and Boris are remotely competent, this results in a rock solid "you and me against the world (but especially the EU)" agreement. If it doesn't both of them should neck themselves.

You would think that, wouldn't you. But before all this Chinese Batclap business blew up, the Labour Party was shrieking about any deal with the US as being a "third rate Trump trade deal" and, because orange man bad, would of necessity involve selling off "our NHS" and thus eugenics (because in the mind of the average Labourite the only two options for a healthcare system are free-at-point-of-use-money-no-object or euthanising the poor.) As such, any sort of deal will be shrieked at in Parliament, in the media, and anything and everything will be spun as privatising the NHS by the back door somehow. Notwithstanding that Maggie Thatcher never even considered privatising the NHS and that the furthest any Government went down that route was Tony Blair with his hard-on for PFI and PPP.
 
You would think that, wouldn't you. But before all this Chinese Batclap business blew up, the Labour Party was shrieking about any deal with the US as being a "third rate Trump trade deal" and, because orange man bad, would of necessity involve selling off "our NHS" and thus eugenics (because in the mind of the average Labourite the only two options for a healthcare system are free-at-point-of-use-money-no-object or euthanising the poor.) As such, any sort of deal will be shrieked at in Parliament, in the media, and anything and everything will be spun as privatising the NHS by the back door somehow. Notwithstanding that Maggie Thatcher never even considered privatising the NHS and that the furthest any Government went down that route was Tony Blair with his hard-on for PFI and PPP.
I can't understand how anybody would fall for that. You're negotiating trade of goods. How do we jump from that to PLOD TURD MAN WANTS TO BUY OUR NHS TO PERSONALLY EXECUTE POOR PEOPLE?
 
I can't understand how anybody would fall for that. You're negotiating trade of goods. How do we jump from that to PLOD TURD MAN WANTS TO BUY OUR NHS TO PERSONALLY EXECUTE POOR PEOPLE?
These are the same people who during my local election debate in 2017 brought up some wild conspiracy regarding the Nailor report and how if the Tory incumbent MP did not answer her, she would file a police report to have him arrested. Everyone clapped. That was the first and last local election debate/hustings I will attend. It's filled with fucking nut jobs and weirdos who believe anything.
 
The whole thing is just another piece of evidence of how to deal with these assholes.

Do not back down, do not apologize.

Even if you did something clearly wrong (which Cummings didn't) your refusal to cave to the media onslaught will drive them mad and they WILL start making shit up to demonise you. At which point you can calmly mike-drop them and you walk away from the "scandal" more popular than you entered it, even if the original story had you bang to rights. If (as in this case) you did nothing wrong to begin with, then it gives you a permanent defense ( at least to your own supporters) against attacks in the future as you can just claim that the media is crying wolf.
So many hot takes basically saying "This proves Cummings is in charge, not Boris!"

Umm yeah, okay. Capitulating to the mob proves Boris is in charge, but telling the mob to fuck off proves he's not? Strong is weak, bad is good, male is female. The leftist mind is completely discombobulated.
 
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