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That Coppa disclaimer is just laughable
And it doesn't work, a couple of his reviews are already stuck in "Kids' mode", he should know how piss-poor YouTube's bots are by this point instead of brushing off the problem when other YouTubers were discussing it.

ETA: wow, he says he couldn't manage to sit through an entire episode of this Sanjay and Craig thing at once because of how much it disturbed him. That's just sad.
 
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ETA: wow, he says he couldn't manage to sit through an entire episode of this Sanjay and Craig thing at once because of how much it disturbed him. That's just sad.
If he had any integrity as a reviewer he would either push through or just not review it. But of course not. Also how fragile are you when you're an almost 30 year old man and you can't sit through a cartoon made for literal children because its too "disturbing".

EDIT: HERE WE GO AGAIN LMAO, HOT OFF THE PRESS
You know, doing this Nick-O-Rama thing has been an interesting experiment and experience. And it's one that I'm not likely to repeat. And it's not for watching shows I didn't like. It's not for doing much more work than I'm used, in rapid succession. It's... to be brutally honest, taking internet toxicity in rapid succession. I'm used to all kinds of comments and hatred and random stupidity. But... on a slower time scale.

But in the past few days, maybe even bordering on a few weeks, the fact that it's all coming in rapid succession is... really starting to get to me and actively piss me off. You probably don't have much context as to what I'm talking about. But you know... it seems that no matter what I do, whatever I say about any single show, there's nothing but complaints and such.

My favorite time is when I did the Korra and the Chalkzone reviews. Where some people, fans of those series, thought that I did such a poor job that I should review them again. Yup, just make the review again. Because me reviewing Korra a third time is going to make me like the series definitely for realsies. Chalkzone gets better later on... not when it was on Nickelodeon. Only when it was booted to Nicktoons and lost its chance for a good impression. Telling me to just "redo" hours of work is not gonna make me like your show, and I find it... entitled for lack of a better word.

That's one thing. Oh, let's talk about when I talk about shows that I like. Oh, it's not good enough because I found some things about shows that I didn't like, because I didn't have a blindly positive opinion about anything. For example, the fact that they used lasers instead of guns in TMNT 2012. That is a problem that legitimately bothers me for the reasons that I stated. If it's not a problem to you, then all the power to you. I'm not here to repeat your opinions back to you.

And I love it when the criticisms against my... criticisms are just frankly wrong. I forget which show at this point I complained about cliches, but... I got this response a lot. "There's nothing wrong with a show being cliched. All shows have cliches." That's incorrect. What you're thinking of is a "Trope." A show in itself being cliched is a problem, and a massive one. If a show is your first ever, it's not a problem, I'd concede. If you've never seen a show before in your life, you probably won't have a problem with Back at the Barnyard.

However... when you get more versed in a medium they become a hangup. A television show's first and most important job is to make you forget that you're watching a television show. You're supposed to forget that the story is just... words on a page. That there's a controller in your hand. A cliche is something that more or less reminds you... that that barrier is there, that you're not experiencing something, just merely watching it.

If that sounds pretentious, let me give you a few practical examples. One case is BoJack Horseman. The first few episodes aren't really awful. They are just very cliched. And because they are so cliched, many people stopped watching during the first few episodes and never continued on with what the show became. And even going back, rewatching from the very beginning is difficult.

And then there's the mystery genre. This is where cliches really hurt. There's a reason "The butler did it" is insulting, why you should never ever use it when you're writing a mystery story. You're supposed to keep your logic ahead of the audience. It's the same in other genres as well. The audience that catches your punchline before you say it doesn't laugh. The audience that catches your scare before you reveal it, doesn't scream. It mutes the power that good media can have.

While yes, you can see tropes time and time again, most every animated film is a roadtrip, the set pieces and things you do on that road trip can elevate it to a new height. Sorry that I can't bring up this argument in a 7-10 minute video every single time when I've been trying to keep a daily schedule, and review 48 separate cartoons.

Oh, and that's my favorite one. You're not going in depth enough for these shows. I love this one because when I actually do go in depth on a show I go on for far too long. Because there's no way to make an internet audience happy. You know, unless I say there's no problem whatsoever with your new favorite show, Teen Titans Go. But seriously. I'm not going too far into each show? That's because it's... more of a review than the analysis that I usually do. Reviews tend to be brief overviews. They don't go deep into detail about the implications of every given episode.

But next time, I promise that I'll watch every single episode of a show that's gone on for multiple seasons, and write up a 40 minute video in a 24 hour period to have it uploaded daily. Never mind the economics of this, considering how much it would cost to have someone edit that. I am planning on getting deeper into some of these shows, but the more things go on, the less shit I want to do in general.

I honestly don't know why I'm continuing with this because I know people are going to give me shit for my honest opinions about shows like Harvey Beaks and Welcome to the Wayne, because I'm not 100 percent positive towards them. I get it, every single show out there is someone's favorite, someone's "do not attack point."

El Tigre was super progressive and ahead of its time because it had a Mexican aesthetic. Ha ha, except that so many shows around 2005 were extremely culturally progressive. Much more so than El Tigre, which is what gives my complaint extra merit. You had Mucha Lucha, Proud Family, Avatar: The Last Airbender. All I'm saying is that I've never heard Dora the Explorer's Diego call international football "Soccer", like the most progressive show of the time.

I love people mishearing me as well. "You said Mighty B was flash animated, so here's some cels." No I didn't. I did not say it was Flash animated. I said it looked Flash animated. It looked too clean until it randomly got jarring. "You do know that El Tigre was made by a Mexican person, right?" Yes. That's why I said so in the video. That's why I found some aspects of exploring Mexican culture a little bit lacking.

Do people just hear what they want to hear? Not every point I've ever made is sound, I'll admit that, but in general, I choose my wording very carefully. I say what I mean, and I mean what I say. If I don't have background knowledge, like with the Monsters vs. Aliens film, I will say so. But not only have I watched these shows, I have done research on them.

I got this special tweet. "I hope he addresses and listens to all of the criticisms he received if he wants to do this again with Cartoon Network." Yeah, I did listen to all of the criticisms and it's damn near driven me neurotic because no one is going to be happy with anything I do, because the internet is neurotic as fuck. All I learned is I don't want to do this with Cartoon Network. I don't want to even finish this Nick-O-Rama thing. What do I have to gain? The 100% achievement?

And I love it, and I mean I really love it when I'm out of line because my criticisms are "cliche." For example, I dunno, The Casagrandes not having much of a reason to exist, similar to another spinoff. Am I going to be too opinionated when I say that I don't like because... I don't like the character they chose to make a spinoff with? Even though the only reason you should be watching my reviews is because you're interested in my opinions. Are you going to complain when I say that the Breadwinners... don't look like ducks? Or when I say that I think that Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is a bad adaptation? Probably, and I really don't want to deal with that shit. When I say that the dialogue in Welcome to the Wayne lessons the experience, are you just gonna take that at face value, or are you going to hear me out? Or maybe just pull out some random slang terms that Gravity Falls used, ignoring that Wayne used them almost constantly.

The reason that I didn't upload yesterday is because I was detoxing from all of this shit. Because I'm just sick and tired and don't want to do much of anything anymore. No, it's not from burnout or overwork. It's just the rapid fire blasts with a shit canon.

So, tell me what the prize is to keep going on this track. I'm genuinely curious. Assume that you'll be disappointed when I get to that show you really want me to talk about because at this point, I'm assuming you will be too.
 
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Mr. Enter powiedział(a):
You know, doing this Nick-O-Rama thing has been an interesting experiment and experience. And it's one that I'm not likely to repeat. And it's not for watching shows I didn't like. It's not for doing much more work than I'm used, in rapid succession. It's... to be brutally honest, taking internet toxicity in rapid succession. I'm used to all kinds of comments and hatred and random stupidity. But... on a slower time scale.

But in the past few days, maybe even bordering on a few weeks, the fact that it's all coming in rapid succession is... really starting to get to me and actively piss me off. You probably don't have much context as to what I'm talking about. But you know... it seems that no matter what I do, whatever I say about any single show, there's nothing but complaints and such.

My favorite time is when I did the Korra and the Chalkzone reviews. Where some people, fans of those series, thought that I did such a poor job that I should review them again. Yup, just make the review again. Because me reviewing Korra a third time is going to make me like the series definitely for realsies. Chalkzone gets better later on... not when it was on Nickelodeon. Only when it was booted to Nicktoons and lost its chance for a good impression. Telling me to just "redo" hours of work is not gonna make me like your show, and I find it... entitled for lack of a better word.

That's one thing. Oh, let's talk about when I talk about shows that I like. Oh, it's not good enough because I found some things about shows that I didn't like, because I didn't have a blindly positive opinion about anything. For example, the fact that they used lasers instead of guns in TMNT 2012. That is a problem that legitimately bothers me for the reasons that I stated. If it's not a problem to you, then all the power to you. I'm not here to repeat your opinions back to you.

And I love it when the criticisms against my... criticisms are just frankly wrong. I forget which show at this point I complained about cliches, but... I got this response a lot. "There's nothing wrong with a show being cliched. All shows have cliches." That's incorrect. What you're thinking of is a "Trope." A show in itself being cliched is a problem, and a massive one. If a show is your first ever, it's not a problem, I'd concede. If you've never seen a show before in your life, you probably won't have a problem with Back at the Barnyard.

However... when you get more versed in a medium they become a hangup. A television show's first and most important job is to make you forget that you're watching a television show. You're supposed to forget that the story is just... words on a page. That there's a controller in your hand. A cliche is something that more or less reminds you... that that barrier is there, that you're not experiencing something, just merely watching it.

If that sounds pretentious, let me give you a few practical examples. One case is BoJack Horseman. The first few episodes aren't really awful. They are just very cliched. And because they are so cliched, many people stopped watching during the first few episodes and never continued on with what the show became. And even going back, rewatching from the very beginning is difficult.

And then there's the mystery genre. This is where cliches really hurt. There's a reason "The butler did it" is insulting, why you should never ever use it when you're writing a mystery story. You're supposed to keep your logic ahead of the audience. It's the same in other genres as well. The audience that catches your punchline before you say it doesn't laugh. The audience that catches your scare before you reveal it, doesn't scream. It mutes the power that good media can have.

While yes, you can see tropes time and time again, most every animated film is a roadtrip, the set pieces and things you do on that road trip can elevate it to a new height. Sorry that I can't bring up this argument in a 7-10 minute video every single time when I've been trying to keep a daily schedule, and review 48 separate cartoons.

Oh, and that's my favorite one. You're not going in depth enough for these shows. I love this one because when I actually do go in depth on a show I go on for far too long. Because there's no way to make an internet audience happy. You know, unless I say there's no problem whatsoever with your new favorite show, Teen Titans Go. But seriously. I'm not going too far into each show? That's because it's... more of a review than the analysis that I usually do. Reviews tend to be brief overviews. They don't go deep into detail about the implications of every given episode.

But next time, I promise that I'll watch every single episode of a show that's gone on for multiple seasons, and write up a 40 minute video in a 24 hour period to have it uploaded daily. Never mind the economics of this, considering how much it would cost to have someone edit that. I am planning on getting deeper into some of these shows, but the more things go on, the less shit I want to do in general.

I honestly don't know why I'm continuing with this because I know people are going to give me shit for my honest opinions about shows like Harvey Beaks and Welcome to the Wayne, because I'm not 100 percent positive towards them. I get it, every single show out there is someone's favorite, someone's "do not attack point."

El Tigre was super progressive and ahead of its time because it had a Mexican aesthetic. Ha ha, except that so many shows around 2005 were extremely culturally progressive. Much more so than El Tigre, which is what gives my complaint extra merit. You had Mucha Lucha, Proud Family, Avatar: The Last Airbender. All I'm saying is that I've never heard Dora the Explorer's Diego call international football "Soccer", like the most progressive show of the time.

I love people mishearing me as well. "You said Mighty B was flash animated, so here's some cels." No I didn't. I did not say it was Flash animated. I said it looked Flash animated. It looked too clean until it randomly got jarring. "You do know that El Tigre was made by a Mexican person, right?" Yes. That's why I said so in the video. That's why I found some aspects of exploring Mexican culture a little bit lacking.

Do people just hear what they want to hear? Not every point I've ever made is sound, I'll admit that, but in general, I choose my wording very carefully. I say what I mean, and I mean what I say. If I don't have background knowledge, like with the Monsters vs. Aliens film, I will say so. But not only have I watched these shows, I have done research on them.

I got this special tweet. "I hope he addresses and listens to all of the criticisms he received if he wants to do this again with Cartoon Network." Yeah, I did listen to all of the criticisms and it's damn near driven me neurotic because no one is going to be happy with anything I do, because the internet is neurotic as fuck. All I learned is I don't want to do this with Cartoon Network. I don't want to even finish this Nick-O-Rama thing. What do I have to gain? The 100% achievement?

And I love it, and I mean I really love it when I'm out of line because my criticisms are "cliche." For example, I dunno, The Casagrandes not having much of a reason to exist, similar to another spinoff. Am I going to be too opinionated when I say that I don't like because... I don't like the character they chose to make a spinoff with? Even though the only reason you should be watching my reviews is because you're interested in my opinions. Are you going to complain when I say that the Breadwinners... don't look like ducks? Or when I say that I think that Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is a bad adaptation? Probably, and I really don't want to deal with that shit. When I say that the dialogue in Welcome to the Wayne lessons the experience, are you just gonna take that at face value, or are you going to hear me out? Or maybe just pull out some random slang terms that Gravity Falls used, ignoring that Wayne used them almost constantly.

The reason that I didn't upload yesterday is because I was detoxing from all of this shit. Because I'm just sick and tired and don't want to do much of anything anymore. No, it's not from burnout or overwork. It's just the rapid fire blasts with a shit canon.

So, tell me what the prize is to keep going on this track. I'm genuinely curious. Assume that you'll be disappointed when I get to that show you really want me to talk about because at this point, I'm assuming you will be too.

Hot damn, that was a tough read. TL;DR: John is mad at the internet because he can't magically appease everybody and doesn't want to make videos because of it. (lol)

He just throws out what little semblance of autistic self-awareness he has left and goes on a classic assmad Enter rant in text form. He starts off repeating himself with how much of a "learning experience" it has been to make the Nick O' Ramas. How it's so tiring and how he probably won't do it again. But it's not because of the fact he put too much on his hands and had almost no preparation or motivation to do this dumb stunt to get Youtube neetbux. It's because of muh internet tawksissity. In other words, people don't 100% agree with everything he has to say and are willing to voice their opinions about it. Of course, it's too much for Johnny boy to handle.

The biggest butthurt comes out when he talks about cliches, and how it's completely unacceptable wrongthink to be indifferent towards cliches in a story. Because nothing has ever been good in spite of cliches inherent to a story's setting or genre, and this justifies taking up the runtime of a video so you can nitpick every one you come across.

He gets mad that people think his reviews are shallow and want him to be more thorough in his explanations. But Enter confuses a detailed analysis with his rapid-fire spergy nitpicks and thinks all of his videos would have to be 40 minutes long.

Enter brings back and defends his "road trip" criticism that got him grilled earlier in the thread because of how fucking stupid it is to hate the fact that a movie has a changing setting and linear plotline.

This whole post is just a criticism deflection spree straight from the pits of 2015 and shows exactly how fucking stubborn and persistent Enter is when people don't like what he has to say.

Cartoon sperg Twitter is in full remorse mode over Enter deleting his account and show themselves to be spineless once again.

Guy who made completely legitimate critiques has remorse because of the DA journal meltdown:
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Crimson Mayhem, the one Enter editor that isn't hot garbage, had this to say over his own pretty passive comments:
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The Alpha Autist mourns the loss of Johnny Boy:
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Loud House sped #9001 thinks people should apologize for a grown man not being able to take criticism:
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Enter apparently had this to say to Alpha Jay about the Twitter DFE:
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He's come to the correct answer about what Twitter is, but for the wrong reasons. He's right that Twitter is a toxic shithole, but the reason it is a toxic shithole isn't because it laughs at you for playing vidya instead of doing your job.

Enter powiedział(a):
I got this special tweet. "I hope he addresses and listens to all of the criticisms he received if he wants to do this again with Cartoon Network." Yeah, I did listen to all of the criticisms and it's damn near driven me neurotic because no one is going to be happy with anything I do, because the internet is neurotic as fuck. All I learned is I don't want to do this with Cartoon Network. I don't want to even finish this Nick-O-Rama thing. What do I have to gain? The 100% achievement?

5. COPPA
6. Implying to have depression but not really
7. Muh harassment
8. Editors being stupid
9. Writing another Growing Around crossdressing episode that 10 people see
10. No reason given
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!
 
Hot damn, that was a tough read. TL;DR: John is mad at the internet because he can't magically appease everybody and doesn't want to make videos because of it. (lol)

He just throws out what little semblance of autistic self-awareness he has left and goes on a classic assmad Enter rant in text form. He starts off repeating himself with how much of a "learning experience" it has been to make the Nick O' Ramas. How it's so tiring and how he probably won't do it again. But it's not because of the fact he put too much on his hands and had almost no preparation or motivation to do this dumb stunt to get Youtube neetbux. It's because of muh internet tawksissity. In other words, people don't 100% agree with everything he has to say and are willing to voice their opinions about it. Of course, it's too much for Johnny boy to handle.

The biggest butthurt comes out when he talks about cliches, and how it's completely unacceptable wrongthink to be indifferent towards cliches in a story. Because nothing has ever been good in spite of cliches inherent to a story's setting or genre, and this justifies taking up the runtime of a video so you can nitpick every one you come across.

He gets mad that people think his reviews are shallow and want him to be more thorough in his explanations. But Enter confuses a detailed analysis with his rapid-fire spergy nitpicks and thinks all of his videos would have to be 40 minutes long.

Enter brings back and defends his "road trip" criticism that got him grilled earlier in the thread because of how fucking stupid it is to hate the fact that a movie has a changing setting and linear plotline.

This whole post is just a criticism deflection spree straight from the pits of 2015 and shows exactly how fucking stubborn and persistent Enter is when people don't like what he has to say.

Cartoon sperg Twitter is in full remorse mode over Enter deleting his account and show themselves to be spineless once again.

Guy who made completely legitimate critiques has remorse because of the DA journal meltdown:
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Crimson Mayhem, the one Enter editor that isn't hot garbage, had this to say over his own pretty passive comments:
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The Alpha Autist mourns the loss of Johnny Boy:
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Loud House sped #9001 thinks people should apologize for a grown man not being able to take criticism:
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Enter apparently had this to say to Alpha Jay about the Twitter DFE:
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Color me shocked that a man who doesn't listen to any criticism gets pissed when people give him criticism.
 
I forget which show at this point I complained about cliches, but... I got this response a lot. "There's nothing wrong with a show being cliched. All shows have cliches." That's incorrect. What you're thinking of is a "Trope." A show in itself being cliched is a problem, and a massive one.
This coming from a guy who wants to write a show where the father is a bumbling manchild, the mother is an uptight bitch, and the kids obsess over candy and act like crackheads.

El Tigre was super progressive and ahead of its time because it had a Mexican aesthetic. Ha ha, except that so many shows around 2005 were extremely culturally progressive. Much more so than El Tigre, which is what gives my complaint extra merit. You had Mucha Lucha, Proud Family, Avatar: The Last Airbender. All I'm saying is that I've never heard Dora the Explorer's Diego call international football "Soccer", like the most progressive show of the time.
Not to go full SJW but I like how the most milquetoast white dude of all time is lecturing actual Hispanic people for not making their show Mexican enough. It's almost like they knew people of all cultures watch TV and didn't want to alienate people who aren't as familiar with Hispanic culture. (Also I have no clue what the soccer thing is even supposed to mean.)

I could snark on this thing all day, but the main thing it boils down to is that John is a 30-something year old man who gets paid to sit on his ass and fart around in Windows Movie Maker, and he's salty to the point of needing to "detox" because some people have been criticizing his opinions of children's cartoons from a decade ago.
If John really thinks YouTube has become so toxic, and if he really prefers playing vidya over making videos at this point, why not become a Twitch streamer? It's not like there's ~toxicity~ in the gaming world or anything...
 
Is it me or are all of these animation reviewers also wannabe animators? I say this because Rebeltaxi, Enter and I think some other dude I've heard referring to their "animated show concepts" multiple times. This interests me particularly because I consider myself an above average artist and am also working on a comic project I hope to get turned into a show one day but instead of talking about it constantly I'm quietly working on it in addition to my day job and producing enough content so that when I launch later in the year I'll have a sizable backlog and a coherent world with fleshed-out characters that can then be turned into a pitch/animatic pilot.

None of these guys seem to have any actual talent for character design or world-building that isn't just a mish-mash of lore snippets and shit stolen from elsewhere.
Seriously the character designs in Growing Around couldn't be more generic if you got a drunken Seth McFarlane to draw them left-handed.
I just find it kind of hilarious how people who've spent their entire YouTube "careers" critiquing cartoons feel that this somehow has made them an expert in making them.

Or maybe they just assume (especially Enter) that they just KNOW what the people want but it's all those dum-dums in suits holding back their brilliant vision.
Also I don't know how much Enter has raised for his project but whatever it is I'm sure isn't enough to produce a quality pilot, let alone an entire series.
Animation is expensive as shit and unless you're hiring randos off the street, the VO talent needs to get paid also.
 
I just want to say, it’s amazing how Growing Around seems to include every single thing Enter has ever complained about in Animated Atrocities. Imagine if someone else had made Growing Around and Enter were to watch it; I doubt he would react positively.
 
I just want to say, it’s amazing how Growing Around seems to include every single thing Enter has ever complained about in Animated Atrocities. Imagine if someone else had made Growing Around and Enter were to watch it; I doubt he would react positively.

Maybe he was against all those other shows because he felt they we're plucking his ideas straight from his brain through the internet or something.
Also this guy is the biggest pussy, what with constantly getting offended from gross-out gags and dishing out simplistic moralizing against shows that "don't teach the right lessons" and other tiresome bullshit. His reviews of those Spongebob episodes that revolve around an injury or similar "gross" matters really show his true colors in my opinion.
Those colors being those of an incredibly sheltered person who's never worked an honest job in his life and has never had to really struggle. I say this because his worldview is hilariously simplistic and his views of morality so binary it'd make Steve Ditko blush.
 
Color me shocked that a man who doesn't listen to any criticism gets pissed when people give him criticism.
Welcome. Your username and the fact that you made yourself debut in this thread is highly concerning. Please take care, read the rules, and be safe. We don’t need another enter sled


This interests me particularly because I consider myself an above average artist and am also working on a comic project I hope to get turned into a show one day
See above.
Also, this is not your personal feel good thread. It’s not difficult to be “better than enter.” You’re not the first to come here and say similar things, and you likely won’t be the last. Nobody cares about your comic, keep it to yourself and all will be fine
 
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Welcome. Your username and the fact that you made yourself debut in this thread is highly concerning. Please take care, read the rules, and be safe. We don’t need another enter sled



See above.
Also, this is not your personal feel good thread. It’s not difficult to be “better than enter.” You’re not the first to come here and say similar things, and you likely won’t be the last. Nobody cares about your comic, keep it to yourself and all will be fine

Ok got it, sorry about the bullshit, didn't mean to come off as an asshole.
 
Welcome. Your username and the fact that you made yourself debut in this thread is highly concerning. Please take care, read the rules, and be safe. We don’t need another enter sled

I've been silently lurking this thread/site for a few weeks now and have now just made an account. I have no ill intention, just to watch Enter dig himself in his grave with his reeing and general stupidity.
 
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