🌟 Internet Famous Jared Knabenbauer / ProJared / SinJared, Heidi O'Ferrall / AtelierHeidi & Holly Conrad / CommanderHolly - Divorce Fiasco, trashfire extraordinaire

[sharklasers]

Did they ever wear one to begin with, though? I know Holly and Ross didn't. Some millennial shit.

Heidi did, quick search and I could find photos. Jared doesn't show his hands often but I will look.

Found this in his Final Fantasy IV video from June 2018. They did wear rings but he stopped in September or October which is consistent with his statement that he tried divorcing her in 2018. That means Heidi finding pictures and messages from October to December 2018 wouldn't be cheating as they did "break up".

 

[after]

I found this, it's the last time Jared wears his wedding ring on DCA: the very end of October, the 24th. The episode after this was the stage show filmed in full costume at TwitchCon, filmed sometime during the 26th-28th of October.

I'm not going to lie, that's cutting it awfully fine with the dates, and I have to wonder if banging Holly is what prompted him to take it off.

Either way, it doesn't really change Holly whining about how someone staying in their abusive relationship is making her sad, and what about her feelings, and how she just might disappear if it keeps up!! I know Holly's self-centred, but I can't imagine why she'd make someone's abuse all about herself unless she was confused as to why Jared hadn't actually left this wife yet like he'd told her he was going to, and this is her lashing out.

Telling both women "I swear I'll leave her, baby" for as long as possible until someone puts their foot down is usually how a mistress situation goes.

 

[OneTopicBitch]

Holy shit, I barely paid attention after my exceptional interlude, and now they're all assholes?
Thank fuck I cashed out before these LA/West Coast weirdos showed themselves.
ProJared if he keeps his dick contained, good lad.
Heidi, Holly, with their autism? Enjoy watching Jared pound a few women.

 

[MountAndDoMe]

Holly was probably threatening Jared for months that she was going to off herself if he didn't leave his wife. I like how she made him being in a supposed abusive relationship about her. "My friend is in an abusive relationship and it makes ME wanna kill myself!" Why hasn't this twat considered that maybe Jared was telling her he was leaving his wife at the same time he was telling his wife he'd work on the marriage? And a cheater taking his wedding ring off when he is around his mistress? I'm fucking shocked. Holly was probably brow beating him for months to leave Heidi. In fact she admits to telling him he was being abused and shoving abuse articles in his face. Why did she do this? Because mean ole' Heidi yelled at her.

No idea if Jared is innocent or not. The weird DCA psychos and their shitty Tumblr aren't convincing anyone but themselves though. The best thing Jared can do is run away from both women and try to find someone who isn't crying about clown emojis and muh abuse every 5 minutes.

 

[Kaabi]

It's amazing how this is still on-going and it's been how long? I don't know what's better, seeing Holly act like a clown or Heidi acting like a clown.

 

[birdman]

So these started popping up on twitter and A-kon facebook group, they aren't confirmed through

 

[sharklasers]

Either way, it doesn't really change Holly whining about how someone staying in their abusive relationship is making her sad, and what about her feelings, and how she just might disappear if it keeps up!! I know Holly's self-centred, but I can't imagine why she'd make someone's abuse all about herself unless she was confused as to why Jared hadn't actually left this wife yet like he'd told her he was going to, and this is her lashing out.

Holly was probably threatening Jared for months that she was going to off herself if he didn't leave his wife. I like how she made him being in a supposed abusive relationship about her. "My friend is in an abusive relationship and it makes ME wanna kill myself!" Why hasn't this twat considered that maybe Jared was telling her he was leaving his wife at the same time he was telling his wife he'd work on the marriage? And a cheater taking his wedding ring off when he is around his mistress? I'm fucking shocked. Holly was probably brow beating him for months to leave Heidi. In fact she admits to telling him he was being abused and shoving abuse articles in his face. Why did she do this? Because mean ole' Heidi yelled at her.

I know there's a lot of information that gets posted so it's easy to miss, but there's two pictures that gives me reason to understand why Holly was making it about her: Heidi was trying to ruin her life as much as she was Jared's, and everything points to him staying in some beta as fuck way trying to stop her.

Spoiler: Texts from Heidi

Quite a few people close to them have talked about how bad Heidi was to Jared, and allegedly they even held interventions. Heidi was willing to be destructive and we've seen how much she's willing to lie. Holly was probably upset because the guy she had become very close to was going through a relationship that no one should ever have to, and now when he's ready to leave, she holds his career hostage saying she'll destroy him, Holly, and DCA if he does. We're also not seeing a guy caught with his wedding ring off around other women, he completely stops wearing it in October, exactly when he said he tried to divorce her. It's easy to blame Holly and say she was trying to ruin the marriage, but we have so much proof of how Heidi was acting towards Jared that most people would be telling him to get the fuck out of that, fast.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

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What lawyer, you crazy fucking bitch!?

Rial pulled this line back in February, though she definitely didn't have a lawyer back then, and I'm pretty sure she didn't retain one until after she got sued.

The fact that she's even saying stuff like this casts serious doubt on the idea that she has a lawyer at this point in time (and IIRC, she went pro se some time ago?). Compare to Jared, who shut up on social media like any lawyer would tell you to do.

 

[Lucifer's Rectum]

So just to make sure I'm caught up on this shit, basically Jared didn't cheat, Heidi's an insane person, Holly's an attention-seeking sperg, and everyone involved is fucking exceptional?

 

[Heartmoth]

I found this, it's the last time Jared wears his wedding ring on DCA: the very end of October, the 24th. The episode after this was the stage show filmed in full costume at TwitchCon, filmed sometime during the 26th-28th of October.
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I'm not going to lie, that's cutting it awfully fine with the dates, and I have to wonder if banging Holly is what prompted him to take it off.

Either way, it doesn't really change Holly whining about how someone staying in their abusive relationship is making her sad, and what about her feelings, and how she just might disappear if it keeps up!! I know Holly's self-centred, but I can't imagine why she'd make someone's abuse all about herself unless she was confused as to why Jared hadn't actually left this wife yet like he'd told her he was going to, and this is her lashing out.

Telling both women "I swear I'll leave her, baby" for as long as possible until someone puts their foot down is usually how a mistress situation goes.

Interesting, so in theory the woman who hangs on for the longest loves him more, and therefore he doesn't have to make the choice, the choice will make itself.... Thats pretty smart

 

[MountAndDoMe]

Jared was still wearing his ring around his wife in February 2019. Considering Holly is making a point of the fact that we should check his livestreams for his ring, I have no doubt the psycho was watching every stream he was on closely to make sure he wasn't wearing his ring or she'd probably threaten to kill herself again.

 

[metroid_fetish]

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite clown meme on the Twitter.

 

[sharklasers]

Jared was still wearing his ring around his wife in February 2019. Considering Holly is making a point of the fact that we should check his livestreams for his ring, I have no doubt the psycho was watching every stream he was on closely to make sure he wasn't wearing his ring or she'd probably threaten to kill herself again.

Or the other way around, Heidi forced him to put it back on or she'd go crazy and start threatening to ruin him again. Why does everyone ignore that Heidi was threatening to destroy Jared and everything he'd created by any means necessary? She was making demands and texting him like a lunatic. We know she's willing to lie and omit information, and get hostile when people question her about it. Yes, Holly doesn't know when to shut up or when it's appropriate to remind everyone you have "mental issues" (never), but she did make a point about the ring. Heidi said Jared didn't try to divorce her in October 2018, and not wearing your ring for a few months is a good indication that he did.

We do know he stopped wearing it, not just in live streams. Here's from his D&December from last year.

 

[MountAndDoMe]

Or the other way around, Heidi forced him to put it back on or she'd go crazy and start threatening to ruin him again. Why does everyone ignore that Heidi was threatening to destroy Jared and everything he'd created by any means necessary? She was making demands and texting him like a lunatic. We know she's willing to lie and omit information, and get hostile when people question her about it. Yes, Holly doesn't know when to shut up or when it's appropriate to remind everyone you have "mental issues" (never), but she did make a point about the ring. Heidi said Jared didn't try to divorce her in October 2018, and not wearing your ring for a few months is a good indication that he did.

We do know he stopped wearing it, not just in live streams. Here's from his D&December from last year.

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I admire your mental gymnastics. I really do. So you think this mean abusive wife kept tabs and forced him to wear his ring in private, but he felt safe enough to take off his ring on all his public appearances still? Interesting. Sorry, I think it's more likely that his crazy mistress who notes exactly when his ring stopped showing up in livestreams (again, she makes a point to mention this) was keeping tabs on when he wore his ring so he probably would only put it on when he knew he wasn't being recorded. Listen, I don't think Jared is a pedo. He is going to have to live with that title forever despite most likely being innocent. He never purposely got nudes from people underage, I'm sure. I can still believe he probably lied to both Holly and Heidi about what his intentions were. He was probably telling Heidi is private that he'd work on the relationship while he told Holly he would leave.

I don't give a shit whether he cheated on his wife or not. If he is innocent of the other claims then I feel incredibly bad for him. I still think he should get away from Holly, though. She is an absolutely crazy, suicide baiting, narcissistic cunt. She has showed not one redeeming quality throughout this whole thing. If you are one of those DCA weirdos I was speaking about earlier (seems pretty likely), I'm sorry your show is probably cancelled. Plenty of other DnD shows in the sea.

 

[sharklasers]

I admire your mental gymnastics. I really do. So you think this mean abusive wife kept tabs and forced him to wear his ring in private, but he felt safe enough to take off his ring on all his public appearances still? Interesting. Sorry, I think it's more likely that his crazy mistress who notes exactly when his ring stopped showing up in livestreams (again, she makes a point to mention this) was keeping tabs on when he wore his ring so he probably would only put it on when he knew he wasn't being recorded. Listen, I don't think Jared is a pedo. He is going to have to live with that title forever despite most likely being innocent. He never purposely got nudes from people underage, I'm sure. I can still believe he probably lied to both Holly and Heidi about what his intentions were. He was probably telling Heidi is private that he'd work on the relationship while he told Holly he would leave.

I don't give a shit whether he cheated on his wife or not. If he is innocent of the other claims then I feel incredibly bad for him. I still think he should get away from Holly, though. She is an absolutely crazy, suicide baiting, narcissistic cunt. She has showed not one redeeming quality throughout this whole thing. If you are one of those DCA weirdos I was speaking about earlier (seems pretty likely), I'm sorry your show is probably cancelled. Plenty of other DnD shows in the sea.

That's one picture against countless live streams, videos, pictures of him during that time, all show him sans ring.. Heidi was making threats and demands, all she had to say is "you wear the ring and prove it or I'm taking you down" and the beta male he is would grab the ring. People in abusive relationships do irrational things to appease irrational people. If Heidi gave the ultimatum of "stay with me or I destroy you", he could be telling her that he was going to work on things out of fear of what she could do, especially with the MeToo movement going on. We don't know why he put it back on, we only know that he obviously took it off and left it off for a few months, right when he said he tried divorcing Heidi. Heidi was saying Holly lied about Jared trying to divorce her in October 2018, and she said was "you can see he isn't wearing his ring in the livestreams". If he took his ring off she probably would know and that would be the easiest way to prove it. Holly has a laundry list of irredeemable qualities but I would never say she doesn't seem to genuinely care for him. We can call Holly a homewrecker but reading how Heidi acted towards him, that was a home that needed to be wrecked.

Never watched DCA, I don't get the appeal.

 

[TS 298]

Jared needs to run very far away, change his name, maybe a little bit of plastic surgery just to be safe. Nothing intensive, just a little nip and a tuck, a little bit of hair dye, and you're free.

Jared Knabenbauer, youtuber and live streamer, is doomed. But William Johnson, gamestop manager and part-time home brewer, that's a man with a future.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

I love how this thread is barely even about Jared himself anymore, it's all about the crazy bitches the sad sap got himself stuck between nowadays.

 

[Bruh moment]

Jared needs to run very far away, change his name, maybe a little bit of plastic surgery just to be safe. Nothing intensive, just a little nip and a tuck, a little bit of hair dye, and you're free.

Jared Knabenbauer, youtuber and live streamer, is doomed. But William Johnson, gamestop manager and part-time home brewer, that's a man with a future.

Or Freddy Newandyke. But that's another story.

 

[Psyduck]

Stopped following this pile after it became a chore to keep up with, can someone give me a tldr? Are there any other nudes besides Jared's now?

 

[DefinitelyNotSane]

Stopped following this pile after it became a chore to keep up with, can someone give me a tldr? Are there any other nudes besides Jared's now?

TL / DR omitting info- every person is varying degrees of stupid, some malicious, some vindictive, some manipulative, some all the above.

Jared was definitely a perv, getting nudes from fans, but more than likely not a pedo. Also a complete idiot for ever thinking the nude blog wasn't going to blow up in his face someday.

Heidi is a psycho, getting caught in multiple lies, both outright and by omission, and caught manipulating at least one 'victim' into throwing gas on the fire. Lawyer quit or was fired. Worth noting the lawyer has a habit of dropping shitty clients apparently.

Holly can't stop making everything about herself, and has now gone private after she equated her harassment to what Etika went through before his suicide.

Chai, one underage accuser, wrote a blog entry saying he had an accident right before he started talking to Jared. Said accident left him with next to no memory, bedridden, hearing voices telling him to harm people, and delusions. He has zero proof and is relying on his brain damaged memories as 'proof.' Best case- he's fucking delusional and can't remember what, if anything, actually happened. Worst case is an attention-seeking liar.

Charlie- other accuser, had a porn blog a year before talking to Jared, which means they definitely would have had to be lying about their age to keep from getting deleted on Tumblr. Also really likes implying they're in an abusive house because they're queer and begging for money to get the poor little queer kid out of an abusive home. Likes calling themself a baby constantly. Also lives 30 minutes from Heidi and Jared, does cosplay, & major fan of Game Grumps. Also a delusional kinfolk and furry.

The fan who slept with Jared was contacted by Jared, who showed her texts showing Heidi knew and approved of him sleeping with her. She's still pissed Jared ghosted her, but Heidi contacted her, admitting she knew about and approved their first encounter but insisting she didn't know about the 2nd. (Another omission.) Fan now feels that Heidi purposefully left out vital info to manipulate her into telling Heidi things, and wouldn't have said anything if she had known Heidi knew about the encounter.

I think that's the most relevant info, and as TL / DR I can make it while including the stuff that matters.