🌟 Internet Famous Jared Knabenbauer / ProJared / SinJared, Heidi O'Ferrall / AtelierHeidi & Holly Conrad / CommanderHolly - Divorce Fiasco, trashfire extraordinaire

[mr dink]

In light of Holly more or less saying she and Ross were in an open marriage, and everyone's haziness on the truthfulness of this statement, I wanted to point out something someone uncovered several pages ago but did not seem to get a lot of attention.

An anon on r/conspiracygrunps claiming to be somewhere in the orbit of ross and holly's friend group spilling vague beans but with no proof, so take from it what you will:

 

[sharklasers]

In light of Holly more or less saying she and Ross were in an open marriage, and everyone's haziness on the truthfulness of this statement, I wanted to point out something someone uncovered several pages ago but did not seem to get a lot of attention.

An anon on r/conspiracygrunps claiming to be somewhere in the orbit of ross and holly's friend group spilling vague beans but with no proof, so take from it what you will:

Can't always trust anon posts but it still does make sense. It doesn't absolve Jared, but it could absolve Holly of the cheating allegations. Can anyone show anything that says Ross was unaware or knew but didn't agree with it? I can't find a single thing from anyone, and I feel like that's only coming from people not knowing that they were in an open marriage.

 

[Shady Attorney]

Can anyone show anything that says Ross was unaware or knew but didn't agree with it? I can't find a single thing from anyone, and I feel like that's only coming from people not knowing that they were in an open marriage.

That clip of Ross telling Jared to “stay the fuck away from my wife” that’s a part of the Asagao Academy playlist makes me question Ross’s knowledge on the Holly/Jared fucking. I can’t even imagine someone making such a joke if they know fully well that Jared is fucking their wife with their permission.

 

[m0rnutz]

If a girl asks for a poly relationship, shes usually either wanting to be a hoe or wants you to do something so she can talk shit about you. Which also makes the guy a hoe.

This is a clusterfuck and I love it.

 

[Dickxon]

In light of Holly more or less saying she and Ross were in an open marriage, and everyone's haziness on the truthfulness of this statement, I wanted to point out something someone uncovered several pages ago but did not seem to get a lot of attention.

An anon on r/conspiracygrunps claiming to be somewhere in the orbit of ross and holly's friend group spilling vague beans but with no proof, so take from it what you will:

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So he knows about Holly's "obsession with Jared" but not whether they fucked while she was still married to Ross?
Yeah, I'm not buying it.

 

[sharklasers]

That clip of Ross telling Jared to “stay the fuck away from my wife” that’s a part of the Asagao Academy playlist makes me question Ross’s knowledge on the Holly/Jared fucking. I can’t even imagine someone making such a joke if they know fully well that Jared is fucking their wife with their permission.

That video was from April 2016, almost 2 years before all of this started. I get that we're looking for connections and hidden clues but 2 years is a stretch.

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[keylimepie]

Considering Hollys now deleted tweets, either Ross and Holly had an open relationship by febuary 2018 or the dudes ex-wife of what, 6 years just lied about him being ok with sharing her.

In either case his ex wife of 6 years said she never felt sexual feelings until her walk with fucking Harvey Birdman himself Projared so...thats gotta suck

I feel like there is a chance that Holly realized she was emotionally cheating, and told Ross she just wanted to be friends, and they broke up before anything physically happened. It is also possible the September divorce tweets were just when they publicly decided to speak out about it, and not when they actually separated. I can understand putting off a divorce when you have 5 million people watching your every breath.

I just feel confused about Ross' side in this because he unfollowed Jared, but still is following Holly everywhere, which makes me think their marriage was over long before this mess, and that he agreed they were better off as friends. I feel like him being upset right now could just be all the invasive hounding he is receiving.

On another note... I really liked Holly before all this. Her mental health and family situation mirrored so much of my life, and she really helped me work though a lot of my own issues by being so public and open about it. I didn't actively follow her, but she did have a positive impact on my life.

That all said, she is really pissing me the fuck off now. All her woe is me bullshit and deflecting. It is pathetic. I appreciate what she has done for me, but as I never actively followed her, now I wonder how common her mental health sperging was, and if it was even the truth, and not just some swayed narrative to help her gain sympathy. I wish she would stop making these tweets because it's ruining the only redeeming factor she had left in my eyes.

 

[Francis Dollarhyde]

If a girl asks for a poly relationship, shes usually either wanting to be a hoe or wants you to do something so she can talk shit about you. Which also makes the guy a hoe.

This is a clusterfuck and I love it.

Wanting to be a ho or wanting to dump your ass for someone better but not willing to give up the financial security of a guy working for her while she is out looking. And as soon as she moves on to the more handsome and richer guy "MY EX SLEPT WITH OTHER WOMEN THAT PIG". While forgetting to mention that she asked for the open relationship to begin with.

 

[birdman]

In light of Holly more or less saying she and Ross were in an open marriage, and everyone's haziness on the truthfulness of this statement, I wanted to point out something someone uncovered several pages ago but did not seem to get a lot of attention.

An anon on r/conspiracygrunps claiming to be somewhere in the orbit of ross and holly's friend group spilling vague beans but with no proof, so take from it what you will:

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If this is true than another questionable thing rises up. ..
If Ross was totally cool with her fucking on the side and still gets very well along with her, why didn't he at least state something on Twitter when she was being called out a cheating whore? I know they broke up and all, but if you were still buddy buddy with your ex wife, you'd feel bad for her being bombed with false accusations, right? Just a short statement of "She didn't cheat on me, I was aware she was involved." or something similar.

Ross deleted the divorce tweet ("divorcing because she's moving out to the state with trees" thing) and also went to mental health retreats, so it doesn't seem like he "wasn't that torn up".
Unless he is a master manipulator and a giant asshole too lol

 

[Luigi]

This is what's been bothering me from the start. There was a tweet where she said she had no reason to provide proof "because the internet provided the proof for her." At least it's not batshit insane to come to that conclusion that she has skeletons in her closet from that statement alone, than the odd theory my friends made that "SinJared was not Jared and Heidi's doing to set up a four year long nude sharing ring because he uses his name and face." Stupid, yes, but at the same time, it'd be super interesting to think that it wasn't him, which I doubt it wasn't.

Someone previously mentioned it could be to cover her bases in case of having to take it to court as actual evidence.

Also after seeing the "evidence" from Holly against Heidi, "listen and believe" is almost as useful in this case. The only real evidence is that Jared was sending nudes to fans.

 

[sharklasers]

If Ross was totally cool with her running to Jared and still gets very well along with her, why didn't he at least state something on Twitter when she was being called out a cheating whore? I know the broke up and all, but if you were still buddy buddy with your ex wife, you'd feel bad for her being bombed with false accusations, right? Just a short statement of "She didn't cheat on me, I was aware she was involved." or something similar.

I understand the irony of saying it in a place like this, but it's not really any of our business. Ross wanted to keep his divorce personal, even if he was the one that was left for someone else. Jared also had the allegations about underage fans come out almost immediately. If I was Ross, even if I could save my ex-wife that I was friends with, I wouldn't touch that shit.

 

[keylimepie]

Someone previously mentioned it could be to cover her bases in case of having to take it to court as actual evidence.

Also after seeing the "evidence" from Holly against Heidi, "listen and believe" is almost as useful in this case. The only real evidence is that Jared was sending nudes to fans.

What gets me about this, is Heidi's bi ass admits to giving Jared high-fives for soliciting nudes from fans, but only changed her mind when it became public, and realized she could make a thread of tweets stoking that flame. She made herself look innocent in it all, when she too enjoyed receiving fan nudes.

 

[Yaito-Chan]

In light of Holly more or less saying she and Ross were in an open marriage, and everyone's haziness on the truthfulness of this statement, I wanted to point out something someone uncovered several pages ago but did not seem to get a lot of attention.

An anon on r/conspiracygrunps claiming to be somewhere in the orbit of ross and holly's friend group spilling vague beans but with no proof, so take from it what you will:

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Honestly, the part that bothers me the most is when they write "...was, loose to say the least."

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Unless he is a master manipulator and a giant asshole too lol

On Game Grumps, Arin and company joked about how Ross is a sadist.
Maybe he actually is?

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Am I the only one who misses when this whole mess was a lot more cut and dry with only Jared and Holly being the lolcows? Now with everyone (even potentially Ross, the golden boy of this fiasco) revealing themselves to be equally insane it's just too chaotic to really follow properly anymore with all the he said she said bullshit being flung at 5 different angles.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Am I the only one who misses when this whole mess was a lot more cut and dry with only Jared and Holly being the lolcows? Now with everyone (even potentially Ross, the golden boy of this fiasco) revealing themselves to be equally insane it's just too chaotic to really follow properly anymore with all the he said she said bullshit being flung at 5 different angles.

It's a huge tangled mess of fuckery that just ends up outing everyone as a horny idiot with the most uninteresting nuance possible.
What started as a spergy version of Romeo and Juliet where our hedonistic birdlover seduces the most handsome pigeon of Washington state turned into said pigeon being a horny idiot married to a horny idiot while soliciting nudes from horny idiots and cheating on his horny idiot wife with a horny idiot married to an innocent and oblivious man turned into a horny idiot getting revenge on a horny idiot for fucking a horny idiot that left another horny idiot.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

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Highly blessed image on the left, there. Happy for them.

In light of Holly more or less saying she and Ross were in an open marriage, and everyone's haziness on the truthfulness of this statement, I wanted to point out something someone uncovered several pages ago but did not seem to get a lot of attention.

An anon on r/conspiracygrunps claiming to be somewhere in the orbit of ross and holly's friend group spilling vague beans but with no proof, so take from it what you will:

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"They simply just wanted to live in different states."

X to doubt. Because yeah, that is incredibly trivial and stupid.

But then again, if Ross really did knowingly marry someone who was "asexual", and the "asexual" married someone who is not, for whatever dumbfuck reason, and then they opened the marriage up, wanting to live in different states would be a good "cover" reason for finally dissolving their mockery of marriage.

Hey what if Holly didn't tell Ross she was supposedly asexual?

 

[Someone in a Tree]

Am I the only one who misses when this whole mess was a lot more cut and dry with only Jared and Holly being the lolcows? Now with everyone (even potentially Ross, the golden boy of this fiasco) revealing themselves to be equally insane it's just too chaotic to really follow properly anymore with all the he said she said bullshit being flung at 5 different angles.

I agree on principle, but I think one of the problems is that people here get too invested in the narrative and put certain parties on a pedestal while pillorying others when, in reality, it's probably more complex than that since we're dealing with fundamentally flawed people.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

I agree on principle, but I think one of the problems is that people here get too invested in the narrative and put certain parties on a pedestal while pillorying others when, in reality, it's probably more complex than that since we're dealing with fundamentally flawed people.

True. We got carried away with boiling them down to (sometimes literal) caricatures in order to make better popcorn material. And now that all the nitty gritty details about this whole mess are coming to light it's not as easily digestible so to speak.

 

[scathefire]

Hey @Arm Pit Cream, didn't you say a few days ago that you were going to make a new thread with a more organized OP? How is that going so far?