🌟 Internet Famous Jared Knabenbauer / ProJared / SinJared, Heidi O'Ferrall / AtelierHeidi & Holly Conrad / CommanderHolly - Divorce Fiasco, trashfire extraordinaire

Who is the most "specially gifted" member of the gang?

  • Jared

    Głosy: 1 129 36,8%
  • PBG

    Głosy: 620 20,2%
  • Holly

    Głosy: 754 24,6%
  • Heidi

    Głosy: 478 15,6%
  • Null

    Głosy: 1 391 45,3%
  • Ross

    Głosy: 165 5,4%
  • Nulyu

    Głosy: 52 1,7%

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Ross really needs to stay out of this, he made the right choice divorcing that asexual-until-convenient hoe. What good would throwing himself into the fray do?
 
You can call me unsympathetic to birds but who the hell starts to rescue pigeons?
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What you rescuing them from? Nigga just fly away
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She rescues domestic pigeons, she doesn't kidnap them off the street. They're usually ex-racing pigeons, or pets people decided they didn't want anymore. She definitely has far more than socially acceptable but I can't fault her for rescuing abandoned pets when there's other things to shit on her about.
 
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She rescues domestic pigeons, she doesn't kidnap them off the street. They're usually ex-racing pigeons, or pets people decided they didn't want anymore. She definitely has far more than socially acceptable but I can't fault her for rescuing abandoned pets when there's other things to shit on her about.
On paper, what Heidi does to better her life is fine, but she's not just coping and doing nice things.

I don't think there's any shame in art therapy or rescuing birds. There's nothing wrong with talking about your mental health. The problem is she used her art therapy to guilt Keemstar and his followers and is interjecting her arguments with random bird news. If she wasn't like that, I'd be more open to hearing what she has to say about the situation, but she's sealed her fate as an manipulative opportunist. I feel confident in that assumption above all other things in this situation.
 
I think the most recent update is that he's "hiding" out in a different state. My best guess would be either California, Texas, or Wisconsin.

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Hiding in another state? Dude, you're not in the FBI's Most Wanted list. Is he really such a pussy that he has to run to another state to avoid haters and the law? Wow dood.
 
Hiding in another state? Dude, you're not in the FBI's Most Wanted list. Is he really such a pussy that he has to run to another state to avoid haters and the law? Wow dood.

Devil's Advocate here, but it's more likely that his family or whatever friends he has left live in another state, so he went there for support. He was publicly outted as a perv, had his nudes leaked, his wife accused him of abuse, friends bailed, mocked online, the subject of dozens of videos, and had his career shattered. I wouldn't doubt it if he's in the fetal position in his mother's house. It was his own damn fault, but that's still a lot to deal with in two weeks.
 
Hiding in another state? Dude, you're not in the FBI's Most Wanted list. Is he really such a pussy that he has to run to another state to avoid haters and the law? Wow dood.
Well given the claims of underage accusations coupled with him sending multiple texts to Chai (or Chai’s friend) admitting possible guilt, he might be on some federal radar. Especially if it is true someone outside of the drama reported his actions.

Any CP sent through the Internet follows under federal law. Jared is probably freaking the fuck out knowing or not knowing whether or not he’s been explicit with minors
 
From what I've analyzed from this thread, a lot of people are saying that Ross should stay out of this and let the shitshow roll and I agree with the sentiment, but think of the advantage of seeing Ross drop some truthbombs on this scenario.


Holly, Jared, and Heidi are so biased in their methodology in trying to make their audiences favor them and see things merely through their own deluded filters of mind, it would be nice to see someone who was left to the wayside by the situation reveal everything. It would not only give perspective instead of us having to piece the story together, but Ross' view on the situation can be nearly unbiased to both sides. I feel as if him giving the true story of this and maybe even drop some info about the state of the Grumps can possibly reveal this whole story and whatever the hell happens at the Game Grumps. I dunno, I'm reaching, but it's a wish.
 
Apparently Holly posted this, then later deleted it. The plot thickens

More plot thickening. Had Ross actually agreed to an open marriage?
 

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More plot thickening. Had Ross actually agreed to an open marriage?

If Ross actually agreed to that open marriage than that means that even he is a retard.


And we don't want that, but the conflicting information that comes with this is Ross taking a break.


My theory: Could Ross be taking a break to unload all of this info, under the assumption that he was probably so pissed off that Holly possibly lied to her audience about their relationship?
 
I don't have the time to keep up with this thread but I'm just going to throw my 2 cents in about Heidi. Just to powerlevel a bit, I have been emotionally abused before, I know what they talk like and how they think. That is to say, Heidi is, from what I have seen, most likely an emotional abuser. There are a few things I can draw this from.

Most importantly to remember, most abusers do not think they are abusers and are actually victims, that any emotional turmoil they have caused is justified because they may be feeling upset. We have seen some of this in Heidi saying that while those screenshots of her being abusive are confirmed to be real, she was pushed to that point and that gives her an excuse to treat the people around her as such.

Also, she claims to be wanting to move on with her life, yet if she has an opportunity to take potshots, she most definitely will take them. We saw this when she essentially publically posted blackmail and criticized the supposed nudes of holly she has, calling her insecure, and when called out on it, claimed it was her right to do so to the woman who "intentionally" sabotaged their marriage, and when the person backed down, she softened her tone a bit but still called Holly "despicable."

Going back with wanting to move on, every time Jared or Holly posted something, she gets mad at them for speaking up and "dragging her back in." This is CLASSIC emotional abuser. "I've already moved past it, why can't you? YOU'RE the bad one for bringing it up and upsetting ME." She also pulled a bit of a clawshrimpy, and claims that since they're speaking out to her allegations at all, they shouldn't because they have a bigger audience and they have to be accountable for every person who follows them, so they should have just shut up.

Nail in the coffin for me? The tweets where she says that when asked how she could improve and all Jared could reply with is "you make me anxious," and then laments the fact that despite her trying SO HARD to love him. In my experience, if you don't give a vague answer, tell the truth, list every actual thing they could do to improve, they are far more likely to get upset and blow up at you and subject you to more torture. And then, a question like that puts you on the spot, sometimes there's too many things. And then, the fact that she says that she's the only one putting in any effort at all, is something that emotional abusers like to say to make them feel better and morally superior.

In conclusion, I am not excusing any supposed actions of Jared or Holly, but Heidi is definitely not some poor abused housewife like she would lead you to believe. Her narrative never sat right with me, and while the nudes kind of ran with Heidi's intial allegation, we all pulled a rookie mistake. Heidi never ponied up any proof of claimed texts or conversations she supposedly had, and only put up a few when Holly backed her into a corner. And even then, those were screenshots from HER phone, not the conversations she says she has from Jared's phone between him and Holly.

Don't trust her.
 
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