🌟 Internet Famous Jared Knabenbauer / ProJared / SinJared, Heidi O'Ferrall / AtelierHeidi & Holly Conrad / CommanderHolly - Divorce Fiasco, trashfire extraordinaire

Who is the most "specially gifted" member of the gang?

  • Jared

    Głosy: 1 129 36,8%
  • PBG

    Głosy: 620 20,2%
  • Holly

    Głosy: 754 24,6%
  • Heidi

    Głosy: 478 15,6%
  • Null

    Głosy: 1 391 45,3%
  • Ross

    Głosy: 165 5,4%
  • Nulyu

    Głosy: 52 1,7%

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Not sure if this counts, but I don't think I've seen it posted here yet.
Fucking who? I'll still add it in a gossip bin, since it's neither confirmed nor really affiliated with NB. I've been making a few small updates which I will provide right now.
Maybe that's why PBG said what he did,

Oh fuck, nevermind. I might have to either reconstruct this shit or just give up. So far what I have is a current summary minus the new Furst tweets.
 

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Oh fuck, nevermind. I might have to either reconstruct this shit or just give up. So far what I have is a current summary minus the new Furst tweets.
Don't give up, it's a useful resource. It may be easier to maintain if you do it in a spreadsheet - Google Docs has a free Excel-style editor, but even something done in a text editor might be easier than an image one (you can add columns if you want people side-by-side).
 
Not sure if this counts, but I don't think I've seen it posted here yet.
"In fact both of you acted like ass holes to me. " Hmmm all parties shit confirmed. But to be fair Jared seemed like he was always ignoring her and not keeping her in the loop, the few times they're together in public she's probably unleashing on him for not picking up the phone or something. She's one of those girls with no chill who always wants to know where you're going, who your with, when you'll be back, tell me you love me and I'm pretty, yadda yadda. Jared is an aloof an unaffectionate man and that exacerbates the issue. My guess anyway.

I would bet money Holly bullied Ross into going along with a "I didn't cheat on you" narrative. Ross' mental health break suggests something is eating at him, and the only thing new happening is Holly talking on twitter, he was doing fine previous to this. Ross has stated he goes with the flow, and he probably still cares for her. If she called him up crying and begging saying "I NEED TO GET THESE TROLLS OFF MY BACK SO I CAN LIVE MY BEST BIRD SHIT SHOVELING LIFE ROSS, AGREE I DIDN'T CHEAT OR I'LL KILL MYSELF WAAA". he would nod and do what he's told as to not stir the pot. Holly gets off easy saying she wasn't a cheater and gets to save a tiny bit of face, what does Ross get? A mental health break. #justiceforRoss
 
Let's not forget that the grumps deleted videos of them doing shit with ProJared before this all went down. I wonder how much knowledge the grumps had about Jared and this dumpster fire.
 
All Furst was confident in was that Jared was acting 'weird'. Which could range from 'Jared having a bad day' or to 'Jared having to deal with a wife telling him to get rid of his side ho'
This quote is what I was talking about:

"I think any level of investigation would reveal that, and I hate to put them through that, but I think it'd be welcome and revealing."

Why call for an investigation unless you were confident in the results of the abuse allegations?

Bonus points for irony: he deleted this thread after the nudes came out, but an online investigation commenced about the affair/abuse crap anyways, and it has indeed been revealing. And entertaining.
 
Oh fuck, nevermind. I might have to either reconstruct this shit or just give up. So far what I have is a current summary minus the new Furst tweets.
It's good but you should make the yellow text a darker shade, it's hard to read on the white background. Or maybe just have a darker background
 
Wow, I'm just getting caught up with this. Wow, so this guy is a typical male feminist, who creeps on teens or children of both genders? I hope he has everything taken away from him. That Holly bitch is ugly too.
 
You can call me unsympathetic to birds but who the hell starts to rescue pigeons?
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What you rescuing them from? Nigga just fly away
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Fuck this pissed me off. She's grasping at straws. "Think I'm a terrible person, HUH? Well, look who rescues all these pigeons....! ME!"

I'd retort with this equally retarded strawman, "Yeah? And if Dahmer fed hungry squirrels, does that mean he's also absolved of all other wrong-doings?"
 
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But.... that's not how karma works; you're thinking of retribution. Hell, even wishing retribution or pain on someone who hasn't personally injured you is asking for it; even if karma has more bearing on the path to enlightenment and not earthly justice.

Ross may be a good man, and is turning the cheek, or he may be making a purely pragmatic decision. I'm pretty sure he's solid.

Either way, it's smart & he wins; professionally, legally & in public.

My general advice is; if seeking retribution or revenge personally, don't sugarcoat or justify the desire for payback by painting it as anything else.

Just in case.

Prison mentality, retribution, karma, it is whatever. If something is done to you that you 110% disagree with or cannot approve of, this needs to be made very clear. This is why pupils get put in the corner, students have detention, and for adults there is jail, restraining orders, tiplines, child services or punitive damages. If all you keep doing is turn the other cheek and never stand up for yourself, people will catch on really fast and life will be hell. If getting a point across is court, a screaming match where you dig on all the insecurities you can leaving them a sobbing mess, a certain call to make life a lot harder or something else, well that is not for me to judge. To be clear I am not advocating murder, torture or bombings here. It is just I have learned not being firm will 90/100 be taken as implicit approval when it really is not, and that is a bad thing.

I doubt Ross just turns the other cheek, I think he kicked Holly out and divorced her ass. The divorce is done, he told her to stick it, and does not want all the attention. This has to be a pragmatic decision.

"In fact both of you acted like ass holes to me. " Hmmm all parties shit confirmed. But to be fair Jared seemed like he was always ignoring her and not keeping her in the loop, the few times they're together in public she's probably unleashing on him for not picking up the phone or something. She's one of those girls with no chill who always wants to know where you're going, who your with, when you'll be back, tell me you love me and I'm pretty, yadda yadda. Jared is an aloof an unaffectionate man and that exacerbates the issue. My guess anyway.

I would bet money Holly bullied Ross into going along with a "I didn't cheat on you" narrative. Ross' mental health break suggests something is eating at him, and the only thing new happening is Holly talking on twitter, he was doing fine previous to this. Ross has stated he goes with the flow, and he probably still cares for her. If she called him up crying and begging saying "I NEED TO GET THESE TROLLS OFF MY BACK SO I CAN LIVE MY BEST BIRD SHIT SHOVELING LIFE ROSS, AGREE I DIDN'T CHEAT OR I'LL KILL MYSELF WAAA". he would nod and do what he's told as to not stir the pot. Holly gets off easy saying she wasn't a cheater and gets to save a tiny bit of face, what does Ross get? A mental health break. #justiceforRoss

If she bullied him into it, she has to have leverage. Or (her) friends and family keep pushing him for everyones sake because she whaaa I will jump from a bridge. Something along those lines. I'd have told her to fuck off, so maybe he is a pushover.
Mental health break is easily explained as staying away to avoid disaster tourists and a constant barrage of questions. I would. Give it a week, and hopefully the thing will have died down a bit.

I don't think Ross and Holly were themselves involved in poly (heh, that rhymed). I think Holly just straight up cheated on Ross.

If they really did open up their relationship, Holly would have been quick to jump to the very same defense Jared used to attempt to justify his own actions. Hell, she could have claimed her own relationship was open even if it wasn't true. But she didn't do that. And even if you factor in that she supposedly wants Ross to stay out of all the drama, the fact that she got super pissy over people calling her a whore is never a good look. For fuck's sake, woman, just deny you ever cheated and move the fuck on.

Holly very clearly did cheat on Ross, that is why it cannot stay at simple denial and end there. Holly would have been all too happy to keep the status ho if she could. But she got caught. So sell the grandparents home you like so much, and gibs me dat moolah. Holly would have said poly at the earliest opportunity to make herself look better. I bet she did not because then Ross may speak up and then she will look worse and not better.
 
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