🌟 Internet Famous Jared Knabenbauer / ProJared / SinJared, Heidi O'Ferrall / AtelierHeidi & Holly Conrad / CommanderHolly - Divorce Fiasco, trashfire extraordinaire

[sharklasers]

Oh they both are?

Well then case fucking closed:
Attention seeking troons.

I knew deep down this underage thing was going to go nowhere.

I pressed X to doubt when they started showing pictures of the file, not it's contents just the file, of alleged evidence they had against him. You're trying that hard to show you have evidence but then the most you put out there is a picture showing dates a file was updated (which could be a renamed file) and just an anecdote of something that happened?

 

[PumpkinSauce]

Looks like Ross is taking another break. I can only assume it's because he was brought up in this mess today.

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[DefinitelyNotSane]

I pressed X to doubt when they started showing pictures of the file, not it's contents just the file, of alleged evidence they had against him. You're trying that hard to show you have evidence but then the most you put out there is a picture showing dates a file was updated (which could be a renamed file) and just an anecdote of something that happened?

I started doubting when these future Darwin Award Winners posted a bunch of severely cropped random images that proved none of their claims but not once anything that proved Jared knew their age. Dunno 'bout you guys, but if I was accusing some degenerate scumbag of knowingly soliciting nudes from teens, the first fucking thing I'd post is said degenerate acknowledging their age.

 

[ComeoutandJULAY]

I don't think Ross and Holly were themselves involved in poly (heh, that rhymed). I think Holly just straight up cheated on Ross.

If they really did open up their relationship, Holly would have been quick to jump to the very same defense Jared used to attempt to justify his own actions. Hell, she could have claimed her own relationship was open even if it wasn't true. But she didn't do that. And even if you factor in that she supposedly wants Ross to stay out of all the drama, the fact that she got super pissy over people calling her a whore is never a good look. For fuck's sake, woman, just deny you ever cheated and move the fuck on.

 

[Sable13]

Chai unprivated his Twitter. There's still some tweets talking about Jared, but it does seem like he tweeted a lot more about the situation than the tweets that are currently up.

 

[omori]

I wanna withdraw my choice on the poll, Heidi is clearly the most exceptional one here thinking opening her marriage was going to repair her relationship with Jared.

 

[Faket0Fake]

I don't think Ross and Holly were themselves involved in poly (heh, that rhymed). I think Holly just straight up cheated on Ross.

If they really did open up their relationship, Holly would have been quick to jump to the very same defense Jared used to attempt to justify his own actions. Hell, she could have claimed her own relationship was open even if it wasn't true. But she didn't do that. And even if you factor in that she wants Ross to stay out of it all, the fact that she got super pissy over people calling her a whore is never a good look.

Not a whole lot of evidence on the nature of the relationship Ross and Holly had behind the scenes. He comes off as a guy who got dumped for another guy though so it could be the case,he's just given up and is washing his hands of it all instead of getting involved or throwing out his take on it. Maybe he knew something was going on and even said it was fine we don't know unless he straight up says so. What does seem to be increasingly obvious though is that Heidi was happy enough with the situation when she could fuck guys she wanted and be married to Jared and his fame/fortune. She wasn't very happy when being poly probably ended with Jared and Holly falling for each other and deciding they'd rather be together than with their own partners. She's maybe not so happy that her spotlight of being Jared's with and getting all that attention is being taken from her and she stands to lose fame and money. Though I imagine she'll go hard for the money during the divorce.

 

[Slamerella]

Got some red tape together for those who need it. Not the best in the world but does go over a good portion of things going on. If I've missed anything, tell me. Like I said, not the best, but goes over the basics.

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[Someone in a Tree]

I want to say it's Jared's fault but Heidi's posted some nasty, vindictive things while fighting anyone that makes her look like anything but the complete victim here. At least it would answer a few questions and connects some dots between each of their stories.

One thing that I kinda overlooked with Holly's initial tweet storm that started this shit is that she wanted Jared to publicly address his infidelity, and that the reason she came forward is because he didn't. In retrospect, why would this mean so much to her apart from an opportunity to harm his image? Why should such a private matter be made known to his audience? I know that the waters are now muddied thanks to Jared's potentially illegal interactions with minors, but there was really no reason for him to let his audience know that he was dipping his beak in someone other than Heidi.

 

[Shady Attorney]

Now I’m really curious if Holly and Ross split up any of their finances after the divorce. I imagine Ross had the bigger income working on multiple projects, being a member of GameGrumps, and his Twitch channel. He even got paid handsomely to make Mario Maker games for a month.
What does Holly do? D&D roleplay?

 

[AbbleDabble]

Got some red tape together for those who need it. Not the best in the world but does go over a good portion of things going on. If I've missed anything, tell me. Like I said, not the best, but goes over the basics.

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>some confirming to be underage
I don't think any of them have confirmed they were and that he knew.
>Suggested Polyamory
Both sides have claimed the other started it, I don't think either have proved their case.

And I don't think its been confirmed this is why ross and holly split, I mean its really obvious but I don't think we've had word out of either mouth.

The rest looks fine.

 

[sharklasers]

One thing that I kinda overlooked with Holly's initial tweet storm that started this shit is that she wanted Jared to publicly address his infidelity, and that the reason she came forward is because he didn't. In retrospect, why would this mean so much to her apart from an opportunity to harm his image? Why should such a private matter be made known to his audience? I know that the waters are now muddied thanks to Jared's potentially illegal interactions with minors, but there was really no reason for him to let his audience know that he was dipping his beak in someone other than Heidi.

Almost a "You destroy your reputation or I will" situation? After the facebook post wanting to steal his gold play button, and the texts where she was ready to destroy all their work on DCA, as well as posting scathing accusations on her Facebook where Jared's colleagues and friends would see it (and rumors would start to circulate), I could see him just wanting to be done with the marriage and she still wants to be destructive. It would explain why his message is very neutral and why he blocked her.

Fuck. I know it's speculation but the more I think about it, the more Heidi looks to be the abusive, manipulative one of the relationship, or is at least giving just as much as she's getting. What Jared said to his friends about how abusive she is may actually have a lot of merit.

 

[Sable13]

Now I’m really curious if Holly and Ross split up any of their finances after the divorce. I imagine Ross had the bigger income working on multiple projects, being a member of GameGrumps, and his Twitch channel. He even got paid handsomely to make Mario Maker games for a month.
What does Holly do? D&D roleplay?

The house they were living in together in California sold for around 1million, and it was her grandfather's house, so I imagine she got a hefty amount from that. Along side that, she makes money off of DCA, Twitch streams, and guest appearances. I don't think she does cosplay anymore, but she might do prop building.

 

[PumpkinSauce]

Looks like Holly deleted her tweet about Ross, but the damage is probably already done.

 

[DefinitelyNotSane]

Almost a "You destroy your reputation or I will" situation? After the facebook post wanting to steal his gold play button, and the texts where she was ready to destroy all their work on DCA, as well as posting scathing accusations on her Facebook where Jared's colleagues and friends would see it (and rumors would start to circulate), I could see him just wanting to be done with the marriage and she still wants to be destructive. It would explain why his message is very neutral and why he blocked her.

Fuck. I know it's speculation but the more I think about it, the more Heidi looks to be the abusive, manipulative one of the relationship, or is at least giving just as much as she's getting. What Jared said to his friends about how abusive she is may actually have a lot of merit.

There's something that's been bugging me about all this. Jared's friends fucked off when the nudes leaked so they didn't get dragged down with him, but before that there were a couple that were very adamant about Heidi's abuse. Defending him could have gone very wrong cause defending a man against a woman screaming about abuse is a very bad idea.

Furst's Defense

This is too confident a response about the situation to be just a friend offering general support. I think his friends really did see some shit that had them telling him to run for the hills.

 

[CeleryBread]

Got some red tape together for those who need it. Not the best in the world but does go over a good portion of things going on. If I've missed anything, tell me. Like I said, not the best, but goes over the basics.

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Not sure if this counts, but I don't think I've seen it posted here yet.

Jay Hooft on Twitter: "The problem is I met you and ProCreep years ag…

archived 22 May 2019 22:54:52 UTC

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[Rivalo]

Well, Jared's sub count has gotten to its lowest visible point in SocialBlade, lowest since 3 years ago.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

Almost a "You destroy your reputation or I will" situation? After the facebook post wanting to steal his gold play button, and the texts where she was ready to destroy all their work on DCA, as well as posting scathing accusations on her Facebook where Jared's colleagues and friends would see it (and rumors would start to circulate), I could see him just wanting to be done with the marriage and she still wants to be destructive. It would explain why his message is very neutral and why he blocked her.

Fuck. I know it's speculation but the more I think about it, the more Heidi looks to be the abusive, manipulative one of the relationship, or is at least giving just as much as she's getting. What Jared said to his friends about how abusive she is may actually have a lot of merit.

Or if not abusive and manipulative, at least destructive and unhinged.

 

[Shady Attorney]

Furst's Defense

This is too confident a response about the situation to be just a friend offering general support. I think his friends really did see some shit that had them telling him to run for the hills.

I have to reiterate: never once has Jared talked negatively towards Heidi to me

All Furst was confident in was that Jared was acting 'weird'. Which could range from 'Jared having a bad day' or to 'Jared having to deal with a wife telling him to get rid of his side ho'

 

[sharklasers]

There's something that's been bugging me about all this. Jared's friends fucked off when the nudes leaked so they didn't get dragged down with him, but before that there were a couple that were very adamant about Heidi's abuse. Defending him could have gone very wrong cause defending a man against a woman screaming about abuse is a very bad idea.

Furst's Defense

This is too confident a response about the situation to be just a friend offering general support. I think his friends really did see some shit that had them telling him to run for the hills.

And then there's this post:

Not sure if this counts, but I don't think I've seen it posted here yet.

Jay Hooft on Twitter: "The problem is I met you and ProCreep years ag…

archived 22 May 2019 22:54:52 UTC

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Maybe that's why PBG said what he did, he knew that she was the abusive one and wasn't letting her act like Jared was the bad guy. If she was that terrible towards him while taking his money and using him, that changes literally everything. The video where she smiles at him while he gives a half smile but looks dead? I've seen that face on a person in a bad relationship, who wants out but feels they can't get away. That could be confirmed by Furst's defense, saying that he seemed different and distant, and how bad Heidi was towards him. If Heidi was that controlling and destructive, he could have felt trapped. So then she gets a side piece, lets him get one much later on, then blows up over it and begins to attack anything that could take away her meal ticket. Even more proof that Heidi may have been the abusive one.

All Furst was confident in was that Jared was acting 'weird'. Which could range from 'Jared having a bad day' or to 'Jared having to deal with a wife telling him to get rid of his side ho'

He said that Jared was acting weird when he moved to Seattle. Checking their twitters, that would have been September/October 2017, so months before any of this even happened. If he was acting weird back then it wouldn't have been from this. That does happen to be at a point where Heidi was with "Jeremy" though.