Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

The Disney EU is so bad, it makes me yearn for ye olden days of book burnings.

"Be the change you wish to see."

 

[Ow The Edge]

Since we're talking EU, what book series should I get into? Blank slate, haven't read a Star Wars book in over 10 years.

Apart from what everyone else had said, do you like noir? I loved the on the ground look of Coruscant Nights.

Also, don't neglect Luceno's Legends work. Labyrinth of Evil and Darth Plagueis in particular are real gems.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Apart from what everyone else had said, do you like noir? I loved the on the ground look of Coruscant Nights.

Also, don't neglect Luceno's Legends work. Labyrinth of Evil and Darth Plagueis in particular are real gems.

I was surprised how much I enjoyed Labyrinth of Evil. For anyone willing to give it a try, just be careful not to get the abridged version because it cuts out all of Grievous's backstory and 'dreams' and a few others like Macu Windu, even though these are considered monologuing filler they help give the characters actual character. Plus if I remember it also cut out some action scenes.

Ain't perfect, but if you'd like to see how the prequel movies could've had a way better plot and things happening besides Anakin/Padme babbling at each other, I'd recommend it.

 

[Vault Boy]

Which is kind of funny, if you assume that Leia was supposed to be the one member of the original cast that got a Good End. Then, of course, Carrie Fisher went ahead and snuffed it, meaning that Leia is going to die a broken failure along with her husband and brother. Womp womp.

BAD END

Man, if only there was one of the original trio that was still alive and still more than willing to portray their character.

But alas, since there was literally only one way for TLJ to transpire, Rian had no means to rectify this conundrum. Shame that his hands were tied, there was simply so possible way to give one of those characters a happy ending, or even leave their fate in the hands of the guys making Episode IX.

 

[Zaryiu]

Man, if only there was one of the original trio that was still alive and still more than willing to portray their character.

But alas, since there was literally only one way for TLJ to transpire, Rian had no means to rectify this conundrum. Shame that his hands were tied, there was simply so possible way to give one of those characters a happy ending, or even leave their fate in the hands of the guys making Episode IX.

Except for the fact TlJ was written first so Ruin hands weren't tied, he's just a huge asshole

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Man, if only there was one of the original trio that was still alive and still more than willing to portray their character.

But alas, since there was literally only one way for TLJ to transpire, Rian had no means to rectify this conundrum.

Rian wrote TLJ with no limitations and didn't even watch TFA while writing it

 

[Vault Boy]

Rian wrote TLJ with no limitations and didn't even watch TFA while writing it

I know, I was being sarcastic (thought my choice of words didn't need a /sneed). There's also the matter that Luke's death was a last minute decision, many months after Fisher died. Rian could've spared Luke to try to soften the clusterfuck surrounding Leia (since IX was going to be the "Leia movie"), but in his infinite wisdom decided to kill him off for shock value.

Thanks to that fool, the only one of the original trio still alive is the one who died in real life. What a total fuck up.

 

[Creep3r]

Apparently Anthony Daniels has released a few more cryptic tweets about IX in some kind of code. Can anyone make sense of it?

Also, I found some new info regarding the Mandalorian show on Disney's streaming service.

Taika Waititi will go cosmic for Star Wars, but definitely not for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3

At the FX TCA panel today in Beverly Hills, Taika Waititi made an appearance for the TV adaptation of What We Do in the Shadows, and afterward confirmed that he is talking to the Marvel Studios creative team about future projects — and we should clarify that these are projects that are not...

www.syfy.com

First, it won't have comedy to avoid "disrespecting" Star Wars (not like it hasn't been disrespected enough already), but they want to make the dialogue have some humor which I fear means they'll just throw in some shitty and sarcastic Whedon quips. Second, the main character has some connection to Boba Fett, but its unknown if he'll actually appear because of three issues:

1. Disney Canon has declared him dead at least twice now.
2. Disney Canon has declared that he is no longer or ever was a Mandalorian, which is prett stupid considering that its an entire culture and armor aesthetic that was inspired by his freaking existence and was even part of his backstory outside the EU in the earliest scripts of Empire Strikes Back where they were conceived as "evil super commandos turned bounty hunters who were defeated by the jedi during the Clone Wars" (one of the earlier descriptions of the Clone Wars before AOTC that I spoke about before) with him being one of the few survivors. So why even have a non-Mandalorian an important focus of a Mandalorian show?
3. Chuck Wendig went out of his way to reveal that all that was left of Boba was pieces of his partially digested armor which were sold by Jawas to some possibly gay guy called Cobb Vanth who's super noble and shit and who io9 creamed themselves over to the point where they wanted the Boba Fett movie to be about him.

Because of how prominently Cobb Vanth has been featured in Disney's EU and the fact that the director of The Mandalorian is a Chuck fan/supporter, some suspect that Cobb is the actual protagonist of the new Mandalorian series... Great... Another one of Chuck Wendig's ideas gets to be featured outside of his shit books. And it wouldn't be the first. His self-insert is one of the key rebel pilots in TFA (and Chuck happily gloated about that), and planets, characters and items he's created have been featured across several comics, other stories and in the Solo movie for those who haven't read my previous posts discussing this. So get ready for the possibility of a show inspired by Chuck Wendig's OC... I also love how the Syfy article tells you to go read Aftermath (Chuck Wendig's books)...

Oh no...I've done some digging and Chunk Windbag is only the tip of the iceberg. He got fired, but Daniel Jose Older is still among those shitting out Nu-EU books. He's quite the sperg and wrote a scene into a book where Lando admires his own bulge and ass. Using those actual words.

In a goddamn Star Wars novel. I want to collect this material and hop in a time machine back to 1997 to show Lucas what's going to become of his creation. Or I guess I could just loop the scene in Jedi where there's a zoom in on Vader's funeral pyre and you see his helmet in the fire. Same damn thing.

That's the worst thing about all this. Even if Chuck's been fired, Disney Wars is chock full of people just like him, and even old school writers like Paul S. Kemp have become super woke and taken Chucky's side on issues and become hostile towards fans. It also doesn't help that these people are more than happy to do anything they can to keep Chuck Windbag's legacy of books alive in all of their new material.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Rian wrote TLJ with no limitations and didn't even watch TFA while writing it

I know, I was being sarcastic (thought my choice of words didn't need a /sneed). There's also the matter that Luke's death was a last minute decision, many months after Fisher died. Rian could've spared Luke to try to soften the clusterfuck surrounding Leia (since IX was going to be the "Leia movie"), but in his infinite wisdom decided to kill him off for shock value.

Thanks to that fool, the only one of the original trio still alive is the one who died in real life. What a total fuck up.

That's crazy. Anyone with a brain would look at the situation and think something along the lines of "Okay, this is terrible but this fucks up 9. So... Luke doesn't just phase away at the end. Some quick reshoots with Mark will fix this. Maybe change a couple of those earlier scenes too so he has actual legit reasons why he is like he is now." It could have been done pretty cheaply too.

But apparently Ruin didn't think this was necessary.

 

[Creep3r]

Has anyone been keeping track of the MovieBob thread? Apparently MovieBlob is going to be making a Star Wars episode. I can already see him bashing the original films while also bashing critics of the new films.

Special thanks to @Flexo for letting me know. #KillMoreMeatbags

 

[Red Hood]

Has anyone been keeping track of the MovieBob thread? Apparently MovieBlob is going to be making a Star Wars episode. I can already see him bashing the original films while also bashing critics of the new films.
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Special thanks to @Flexo for letting me know. #KillMoreMeatbags

Does Bob really think Star Wars is a war movie? Does Bob really think The Force in any way resembles Buddhism? I know plenty of Buddhists, and they can't move things with their minds or play mind tricks on dumb people any more than I can.

"War movie reimagined by the Woodstock generation" is Apocalypse Now or Kelly's Heroes. My god, Bob's autism is leaking out of his thread. I think a quarantine is in order in Lynn.

First, it won't have comedy to avoid "disrespecting" Star Wars (not like it hasn't been disrespected enough already), but they want to make the dialogue have some humor which I fear means they'll just throw in some shitty and sarcastic Whedon quips. Second, the main character has some connection to Boba Fett, but its unknown if he'll actually appear because of three issues:
1: Disney Canon has declared him dead at least twice now.
2: Disney Canon has declared that he is no longer or ever was a Mandalorian, which is prett stupid considering that its an entire culture and armor aesthetic that was inspired by his freaking existence and was even part of his backstory outside the EU in the earliest scripts of Empire Strikes Back where they were conceived as "evil super commandos turned bounty hunters who were defeated by the jedi during the Clone Wars" (one of the earlier descriptions of the Clone Wars before AOTC that I spoke about before) with him being one of the few survivors.
3: Chuck Wendig went out of his way to reveal that all that was left of Boba was pieces of his partially digested armor which were sold by Jawas to some possibly gay guy called Cobb Vanth who's super noble and shit and who io9 creamed themselves over to the point where they wanted the Boba Fett movie to be about him.

While I think the idea of the Boba Fett in Empire being a guy that took Clone Boba's armor and assumed his identity is kind of cool and has some merit, I find everything else about this...somewhat indigestible.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Which is kind of funny, if you assume that Leia was supposed to be the one member of the original cast that got a Good End. Then, of course, Carrie Fisher went ahead and snuffed it, meaning that Leia is going to die a broken failure along with her husband and brother. Womp womp.

So much for Leia being one of the Woke Women of Star Wars. sigh

She still could have had political influence for her role in the rebellion while struggling with the fact Vader was her father and that it could make her the object of disapproval if and when the galaxy found out.

But we all know ideas that make sense, and might even work, apparently make for bad ideas in modern-day media.

 

[Vault Boy]

That's crazy. Anyone with a brain would look at the situation and think something along the lines of "Okay, this is terrible but this fucks up 9. So... Luke doesn't just phase away at the end. Some quick reshoots with Mark will fix this. Maybe change a couple of those earlier scenes too so he has actual legit reasons why he is like he is now." It could have been done pretty cheaply too.

But apparently Ruin didn't think this was necessary.

From what I heard, it was literally a last minute decision made by Rian. He decided that his big contribution to the series was being the guy who killed Luke Skywalker off. Mark didn't even know about it until he saw the movie at the premier, hence his shell-shocked appearance at the end.

 

[BrunoMattei]

From what I heard, it was literally a last minute decision made by Rian. He decided that his big contribution to the series was being the guy who killed Luke Skywalker off. Mark didn't even know about it until he saw the movie at the premier, hence his shell-shocked appearance at the end.

Now I'm starting to think the whole thing was a troll to kill the franchise.

 

[Vault Boy]

Now I'm starting to think the whole thing was a troll to kill the franchise.

That, or the man was too incompetent to realize his mistakes, thinking he was making a subversive masterpiece.

Hell, perhaps it was a mix of malice and incompetence, with a dash of having no one to wrangle his bad ideas in.

 

[Zaryiu]

That would be the greatest, thanks.

[URL="http://www.swbooks/timeline/legends.htm[/URL]"]www.swbooks/timeline/legends.htm[/URL]
Has timeline for novels and comics

 

[Creep3r]

??? ?

[URL="http://www.swbooks/timeline/legends.htm[/URL]"]www.swbooks/timeline/legends.htm[/URL]
Has timeline for novels and comics

Nice, but the link seems a bit buggy.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

http://www.swbooks.net/downloads/timeline-legends.txt

I believe this is what he was going for.

 

[AnAspieWithAVengeance]

I'm starting to believe that maybe the world would be a better place if 7,8 and 9 were never made at all.

 

[Creep3r]

The new Mauler vid is out.

Edit: I am enjoying the new Mauler video a lot, but he really went overboard on just that one little line of improv Poe gave (more so than the previous breakdowns). Yeah its a dumb and pointless line like much of the village scene, but there's no need to waste 15 minutes showing off clips from other media that seem rather irrelevant to your point regarding Poe. I mean was the 8 minutes of Buffy shit really necessary? The others were fine and presented his point accurately, but Buffy felt so out of place in that. Although that quote right after about JJ and Rian disregarding the setting's history perfectly sums up the films.