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Should be a wild four years.

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Literally the best movie adaption of a video game ever made, perfectly fits the humor of Postal 2, Uwe appearing as himself and poking fun at himself showed he's self aware as well
Actually though. He got big name actors at the time to show up for it, like the J Johna Jameson guy. The world needs more people like Boll. His own government doesn't know how to handle him, and they're German autists with all the rules in sundry
 
I think the most reasonable outcome is that they say only legal immigrants have that, and then it still spells doom for baby tourism and muh illegals had a baybeh they JUST CAYN'T BE DEPORTED!
The legal system hates loopholes like the baby tourism thing. I get it that Obama wanted a bunch of American citizens in China but that backfired.
 
Re Birthright Citizenship: I'm honest enough to say I may have to skip out on the thread tomorrow depending on the results. I'm hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.

:like: if they restrict it to legals only
I think the most reasonable outcome is that they say only legal immigrants have that, and then it still spells doom for baby tourism and muh illegals had a baybeh they JUST CAYN'T BE DEPORTED!
I have to agree with you. This reminds me a lot of the energy before the Dobbs leaks.
This is the minimum I'll hope for - and certainly want much more than that in citizenship restriction, of course - but is in many ways the sensible bar to cross in the first place. I'd be fine with "settling" for this and yet in terms of actual action and policies over the next couple decades, see such a massive jump in both real numbers and percentage of Heritage Americans within the population, that it seems ludicrous we had such a demographic bottleneck that we had to define citizenship requirements and debate immigration policy at all.
 
Running a quick poll on birthright citizenship.

:feels: if we get mega fucked over and they let everyone, including illegals, have access to it
🤔 if they punt it back to Congress
:like: if they restrict it to legals only
:optimistic: if we win completely and they get rid of it for good

My money’s on 🤔 or :like: personally.

ETA: don’t chimp at me for engagement baiting, jannies
I'm going all in on :feels:. Why?

These two retarded niggerlovers.
niggerlover.png fucking faggot.png
At least with the libcuck justices you know what you are getting. These stupid fucks vote with the left for no fucking reason all the fucking time. Or wait, we know why the stupid bitch loves niggers, she bought like 20 of them to run trains on her at home. It makes me sick.
 
Re Birthright Citizenship: I'm honest enough to say I may have to skip out on the thread tomorrow depending on the results. I'm hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.




This is the minimum I'll hope for - and certainly want much more than that in citizenship restriction, of course - but is in many ways the sensible bar to cross in the first place. I'd be fine with "settling" for this and yet in terms of actual action and policies over the next couple decades, see such a massive jump in both real numbers and percentage of Heritage Americans within the population, that it seems ludicrous we had such a demographic bottleneck that we had to define citizenship requirements and debate immigration policy at all.
How funny would it be if the SC just says yes the President can issue Executive Orders and leave it at that.
 
Roe V Wade was passed because a bunch of hippie boomers took the free love shit a little too far, and didn't want to be responsible for the meth fueled orgies and resulting children that were stopping them from doing as many drugs as possible. That's it.

Um it came out of the


which banned the sell of contraception even to married couples. The decision of that court paved the way to woe v wade.

Now ask me if I support abortion and I will ask you if the baby is white?
 
Believe it or not I'm not really that concerned about birthright citizenship.

Yes it is a problem that needs to be dealt with, and soon, but it's a lot less pressing then the illegal immigration that Biden's handler's encouraged. Some estimates are upwards of 10 million illegals over that 4 year period, that's a lot of people. Birthright is a few thousands per year, it can wait. The up coming 2030 census is also paramount, the Democrats are already trying to alter the rules of it and Trump needs to but that kibosh on those attempts ASAP. The 2030 census will rearrange the whole political structure of the US with the big blue states taking some hard hits as both Commiefornia and Jew York have had mass exoduses over the last 15 years while red states have gained those people.

In my view Trump needs to;

#1. Deal with illegals. Stop the flow and send them back, which he is doing but it will take time.
#2. Put curbs on the legal working visas and TPS types, which he is also working on.
#3. Get the SAVE Act signed and into law, this is critical for future GoP hopes. You can't stop Democratic strongholds from counting votes until they win but you can stop them in critical swing states and close races.
#4. Ensure the 2030 census is clean, the Democrats will be super desperate to rig it any way they can as they are looking to loose massively in political power. Goes double it Trump can get even 50% of the illegals out. Remember the census doesn't count citizens, it doesn't count voters, it just counts bodies.

Birthright citizenship is a problem but it's going to be a long, long road to tackle it as the Dems will throw up every roadblock they can and Congress never really does anything that doesn't make themselves richer. So if the SCOTUS rules it's a legal issue and not a Constitutional one I won't really be that upset.

You gota keep your eye on the prize and take what wins you can when you can in politics. Plus a loss in the case could enrage the MAGA types, feeding the anti-establishment feelings and boosting the voter turn out so maybe one of those close races could swing the other way. If it's a win for the Dems, they will just gloat online about it but it won't really fire up the base as they care more about Orange Man Bad then anything else.

I think that's why we're seeing a commie uprising within the Dems as they're the only ones offering solutions, even if they are retarded ones, while the old guard just spews hatred of anything not Blue and not Big Gov. You can't really build a party based on just pure hatred of one man, you need to offer people something, anything and the only thing the old guard Democrats are offering is more taxes, more corruption and more corporate shilling.

The mid-terms may be far more interesting then anyone is expecting.
 
This is what I'm locking in 🔒 for tomorrow, and some other stuff.
1. Birthright is a bust, either bad, or fucked beyond belief.
2. (The whitepill 💊 ) The shit about KOSA and all this NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE tech stuff is not passing. Trump has kept saying, firmly, he isn't signing fucking shit until they do the SAVE ACT. If he lets up, he loses all leverage.

That's my predictions. Night bois.
 
Plus a loss in the case could enrage the MAGA types, feeding the anti-establishment feelings and boosting the voter turn out so maybe one of those close races could swing the other way.
There is more than enough evidence to indicate that a loss will lead to the exact opposite outcome. The MAGA crowd will lose all drive to vote because America's future is already set in stone and there is nothing that can be done to change it.
 
There is more than enough evidence to indicate that a loss will lead to the exact opposite outcome. The MAGA crowd will lose all drive to vote because America's future is already set in stone and there is nothing that can be done to change it.
For an alleged proggressive, you doompost like a groyper accelerationist.

That would be the funniest thing to happen.
*pushes my chips forward*

I genuinely think that (or some other vague ruling that ultimately kicks the can down the road) will happen.
 
Catholics think revoking temporary protection status of Haitians is injustice.
I wish the Catholic Church was based. I like their art, the aesthetics, and I like a lot of Catholics. I just wish they weren’t retarded when it came to social issues and the border.
Seems the catholic church is having the same problem every institution is. The leaders becoming left aligned while the members are actually conservative
I wouldn't let the UCCB speak for all US Catholics. The UCCB and many bishops in Blue/Purple areas are pozzed and constantly parrot liberal talking points even when there's enough conservative church-goers who don't and won't buy into it. That won't stop the bishops from trying to indoctrinate their congregations. I think someone else mentioned that as the conservative generation of bishops retire or die off, successors become gradually more liberal.

I know someone whose bishop is trying to get rid of both clergy and seminary instructors with any trace of conservative values and the ongoing plans to consolidate churches is seen by the person and many others as a smokescreen to close conservative-leaning parishes under the guise of priest shortages and finance issues. Yet, while all this is ongoing, many young adults regularly attending Mass are doing so with conservative beliefs. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when bishops have to face the reality that their liberal messages are falling on deaf ears with the devout conservative church-goers who won't stop practicing their faith because some bishop is telling them to do the opposite.

Well John, temporary means it has to end sometime
Dems don't want anything temporary to even end even if they insist certain programs or items are only temporary. Locally, a "temporary" police millage was enacted during the housing crash to make up for lost funding from declining house values. House sales have since rebounded but supporters of the millage still want it renewed with rubber stamp approval from the voters.

Nationally, look at the fervor over the Covid ACA subsidies that expired this year. Intended to provide temporary relief when people were shut out of workplaces, Dems cried bloody murder when the temporary subsidies expired as originally intended because the Dems wanted everyone on ACA health plans to receive full subsidies even when they could afford to play a larger share of the premiums. It's enough to make anyone skeptical of any government initiative intended to be temporary.

SCOTUS permits states to count mail in ballots received after the election day as long as they were sent out by election day.
This isn't surprising. The mailbox rule exists for filing tax returns where the postmark date determines the timeliness of the filing. I think the bigger issue comes with what states due in terms of ballots being mailed on or before Election day and being received well after that for whatever reason. A five business day cutoff seems reasonable on the surface to meet any certification deadlines, but I imagine localities with a tendency for election shenanigans will want to delay certifications to count all those straggling ballots that mysteriously appear at the 11th hour. I see that as the biggest issue with having a mailbox rule apply to mail-in ballots.
 
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