💀 Horrorcow Andrew Ditch / Andy Ditch / The Poopsquatch - Middle-aged diaper and scat enthusiast. Pretends to be autistic so that people will change his diapers.

[King Metalia]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pcT7Tz5JOoMIdk if this was already posted but holy fuck its long
Upcoming vid on the 3rd and 4th

I don't have the time nor patience needed to endure four hours of Andy's fake annoying ass voice.

 

[retardsuspectr]

Ditch would only be allowed in if he applied for MAID immediately.

Yes that was the joke

 

[InstituteCutie 2415]

I don't have the time nor patience needed to endure four hours of Andy's fake annoying ass voice.

It's actually the police interrogation with Tom and Joe talking about Andy poisoning his family with laxatives and Epsom salts in the coffee maker, but the audio quality is shitty and very quiet aside from the occasional blaring phone notification.

 

[WarJams]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pcT7Tz5JOoMIdk if this was already posted but holy fuck its long
Upcoming vid on the 3rd and 4th

I noticed it about an hour after; tried to upload to preservetube, but got bounced for exceeding their time limit. I'll set my computer on fire before I ever give that fat fuck a click. So I just ripped the audio from youtube instead; having it as a video is worthless, because it is just a still image the entire time. Obviously whatever Amdy claims this is, this won't be.

It's mainly Tom and Joe talking to police detectives on October 28, about Andy's attempting to poison the family. Volume is extremely low. The source here seems like Tom's phone, because Tom sounds closest to the source. I wondered if this was spyware that Amdy had installed, but there were times where Tom is giving times and dates like he knows that it is being recorded, and then, just as they got home, Joe asked about whether it was still recording, so this was something they intentionally did, which just makes me wonder how the Poopsquatch got it.

As for the contents:
The first hour and 40 minutes is Tom and Joe talking to detectives.
A few minutes of them driving back home.
Then the remaining two hours is basically Ditch household domestic nonsense with special guest, the Buffalo, NY local news blaring in the background.

I don't have the time nor patience needed to endure four hours of Andy's fake annoying ass voice.

Amdy the wetawd doesn't even make an appearance until the 1 hour 45 minute mark, when Tom and Joe return home.

 

[Danger]

See this is why tempering expectations is so important.

No matter what waiver you doctor shop your way into, everyone is always going to suspect you fake.

They might wipe your ass because they are wage slaves, but they are always going to be wondering why your grown ass can't do anything you say you struggle with.

Also, none of us will ever respect you or support your disability.

 

[crimsontacos]

Wyświetl załącznik 9202437

See this is why tempering expectations is so important.

No matter what waiver you doctor shop your way into, everyone is always going to suspect you fake.

They might wipe your ass because they are wage slaves, but they are always going to be wondering why your grown ass can't do anything you say you struggle with.

Also, none of us will ever respect you or support your disability.

But hes a person... no andy you are not a person you are a fatass that your parents found while searching for a sasquatch found an andy and have regretted taking him home everyday since.

What surprises me is dont all medical documents transfer from place to place when he finds a new person to con dont they all have access like google says it all but shouldn't they be getting these documents or is it just he hands specific and hope they dont look into it any further.

No one will ever respect him or his wants because outside of faking disabilities and mental illnesses, hes just a piece of shit.

 

[Banquet Meal]

Congrats to @Banquet Meal and @cmpyt for getting their posts shown on the Metokur stream.

oh shit, its me!!

 

[pooterino]

Wyświetl załącznik 9199707

We're Andy's Brokeback Mountain, he doesn't know how to quit us.

Get the fuck outta here Andy, we don't care what you computer says.

Lol oh man. This is why the Farms is irreplaceable.

Where else can I get weekly updates on a schizophrenic not-retard who spends 40 plus hours a week trying to act like a retard in order to get his monthly gov't tugboat... in order to try to force young black nurses aides to wipe his asshole... and come in and read the not-retard's terrible attempt at psychoanalyzing a forum tard's take on his disgusting fetish via a schizophrenic, hallucinating AI??? If Philip K Dick was here he'd lose his goddamn mind just trying to ingest all this and he was well known for his strict diet of amphetamines, science fiction, and bible esoterica.

Also, none of us will ever respect you or support your disability.

Just clicked on that video to a random time and started listening. Couldn't make it more than three minutes in: https://youtu.be/kwAOWN2m6bo?t=1062

Andy, every single person who has met and dealt with you in person has failed themselves, their family, their country, and God Himself for not immediately beating you about the head and neck with their bare fists. That's the level of revulsion you inspire in people in under three minutes (I made it from 17:42 until 19:50 before ripping off the headphones). Also, who the fuck are you talking to when you keep stating some bullshit like "someone needs to cook for me, it's not up for debate anymore!" Try going into a bank and demanding $5,000.00 and when they say no just shout "GIVE IT TO ME IT'S NOT UP FOR DEBATE" and see what happens, lol.

Genuinely I don't know how he's made it this far without just getting a beatdown (and no, I don't think anyone should fantasize about this or fedpost about him or whatever). It's just mind-blowing to me that with all the filming he's done there hasn't been a single Cyraxx vs Music Biz Marty style throwdown in this many years. It's unbelievable.

edit - Jesus H, around the 26 minute mark he talks about needing help sleeping. At first I thought he meant "going to bed" but no, he elaborates and he's describing needing someone like... watching him sleep. "Making sure he stays in bed" and stuff. Utterly, irredeemably insane. It's giving me actual "put the lotion in the basket" serial killer vibes that he wants some 19-year old CNA to just check on him all night while sleeping. I'd bet my life on the fact that if he "got dat hewp" and knew they were checking in on him like that he'd be beating his dick under the covers to the very thought of them watching him...

 

[OvercookedBacon]

Welp, baby amdy is the first lolcow I've ever had a nightmare about.

 

[A-Stump]

Jim Metokur covered the Poopsquatch on his stream today in the first hour:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pZ8LcV_I_q4

I know the guy is apparently dying for the last who knows how many years but he's just covering the greatest hits. Who cares

 

[Hulku]

Have you ever once stopped to think maybe you dont feel cold because you are a fat fuck?

Nobody will wipe your ass andy.

It just occured to me that disability being a federal program meaning andy fails every test he takes cus they appoint actual doctors.
Caregivers work in the private sector but are funded by the state and government.
Thats how you get away with this shit.
That my friends is an open case of fraud.

 

[Spawn of Dangerhair]

Wyświetl załącznik 9202437

See this is why tempering expectations is so important.

No matter what waiver you doctor shop your way into, everyone is always going to suspect you fake.

They might wipe your ass because they are wage slaves, but they are always going to be wondering why your grown ass can't do anything you say you struggle with.

Also, none of us will ever respect you or support your disability.

I can't get over how he's using a sex ramp as a pillow.

 

[Banquet Meal]

Wyświetl załącznik 9203010
Have you ever once stopped to think maybe you dont feel cold because you are a fat fuck?

Nobody will wipe your ass andy.

It just occured to me that disability being a federal program meaning andy fails every test he takes cus they appoint actual doctors.
Caregivers work in the private sector but are funded by the state and government.
Thats how you get away with this shit.
That my friends is an open case of fraud.
Wyświetl załącznik 9203062

unfortunately, he will continue to get away with this. all of this is a huge money game for all concerned.
the doctors, the therapists, the supply companies who contract with medicaid, its a HUGE cash cow, and they arent going to let anyone fuck that up for them.
medicaid equals easy money for a lot of struggling clinics/DME supply houses, and they dont really care if its bullshit or not, as long as they get their piece of the pie.

 

[Spawn of Dangerhair]

unfortunately, he will continue to get away with this. all of this is a huge money game for all concerned.
the doctors, the therapists, the supply companies who contract with medicaid, its a HUGE cash cow, and they arent going to let anyone fuck that up for them.
medicaid equals easy money for a lot of struggling clinics/DME supply houses, and they dont really care if its bullshit or not, as long as they get their piece of the pie.

This right here.

Red state, or blue state, it doesn't matter. He's an easy source of billables, because all of his alleged conditions are chronic, non-life-threatening, and treatable but not curable.

 

[Yamcha's Only Fan]

unfortunately, he will continue to get away with this. all of this is a huge money game for all concerned.
the doctors, the therapists, the supply companies who contract with medicaid, its a HUGE cash cow, and they arent going to let anyone fuck that up for them.
medicaid equals easy money for a lot of struggling clinics/DME supply houses, and they dont really care if its bullshit or not, as long as they get their piece of the pie.

And yet even with this corporate bloat, they still shove andy into a 1 person crap shack by a metal foundry. Ever lived near one? they constantly stink of burning metal. There's also 3 train tracks near him, he never complains about the noise and the rattling of the house. Not once.

They know he's full of shit. And even if they're just using him for the tard version of crypto farming he's not making their lives easier. I gotta wonder how far deep in the red they are since they started dealing with him.

 

[InstituteCutie 2415]

I can't get over how he's using a sex ramp as a pillow.

Wait that's why it's shaped like that? I thought it was one of those weirdly shaped pillows from those old TV commercials that are supposed to 'support the neck and promote better sleep' but they never actually work.

 

[WarJams]

As for the contents:
The first hour and 40 minutes is Tom and Joe talking to detectives.
A few minutes of them driving back home.

Was bored so I chopped the audio of Tom and Joe talking to the police into roughly half-hour sized bites, boosted the volume like 16x like I was making some kind of youtube ear rape, then fed that into a shitty AI transcriber. No names for speakers because the AI never could keep the speakers straight anyway. Spoilered for your scrolling pleasure. Accuracy not guaranteed because AI is retarded. Going to have to post it in two parts because it is in excess of 64,000 characters.

Spoiler: First half hour

(0:00) Okay, it's uh...
(0:02) Polyethylene Glycol 330-50 USP Powder for Oral Solution.
(0:10) Huh, wonderful.
(0:13) Does mom know about that?
(0:14) Yeah.
(0:15) Which is what?
(0:16) Prescription laxative.
(0:17) Really? (0:19) Uh, 10-20, what's today? 28th?
(0:22) Yeah.
(0:23) October, it's around 10:30, going to the police department in the city of Tonawanda.
(0:27) 10:30, Tonawanda.
(0:33) We're finding all this stuff all over the place.
(0:36) I mean, I hid the laxative that you had, and I also hid the other. (0:42) But still, this laxative, it could be a lot worse.
(0:47) But, I mean, we don't know what to think. (0:51) And you've got to be careful because if you accuse somebody, if you're unsuspicious, without real proof, we could be in trouble too. (0:59) Y'know?
(1:03) Hi.
(1:04) Hi, how are you?
(1:05) Good, how are you guys tonight?
(1:07) Crazy day, crazy night.
(1:09) I get it.
(1:11) Just tell Jen at the window that you're here.
(1:14) Okay.
(1:14) See ya.
(1:20) We're here.
(1:23) Detective Ward called, and I guess, or my dad talked to him and said he wanted to take a look at the house.
(1:28) Well, actually, Andy did, and then he talked to me.
(1:30) My name is Joe.
(1:31) My dad's Tom.
(1:34) Alright, so I'm good.
(1:35) Good night.
(1:45) He's probably going home for the night.

(1:49) You know, about that time. (1:54) And your dog go over and she cries in front of him. (2:01) He's a character, I'll tell you. (2:04) They always get twisted up as soon as they get out of the car. (2:08) And around the tree, around the basket, the garbage can, or whatever it's like. (2:17) Alright, sit down. (2:21) Three hours over there until tonight. (2:26) And it wasn't going to go, it was going to cancel. (2:28) It was making a fight out of it. (2:30) And I told you, don't.
(2:33) Come on in, you guys. (2:35) I'll take you over to Detective Ward, okay?
(2:37) Okay.
(2:38) Ward?
(2:39) Ward.
(2:40) Ward.
(2:41) Yeah.
(2:45) Hey, guys.
(2:46) Hey, guys.
(2:47) Hey.
(2:48) How you doing? (2:54) It's crazy, isn't it? (2:57) He's, uh, off-the-rocker a little bit tonight.
(3:02) I'm positive. (3:05) You know, I don't really cry at all. (3:09) I don't know what else to do.
(3:10) Well, I spent three hours with his recent character. (3:14) Did he, uh, he met today with somebody? (3:16) Oh, yeah. (3:17) They told me he was gone.
(3:18) They had a big meeting today. (3:19) And the wheels are starting to spin. (3:22) But the doctor can't come up with a solution yet because there's too much involved.
(3:28) Because it's in for medication. (3:31) Torpedoes, every idea. (3:32) If anybody ever comes up.
(3:33) He tears everything apart. (3:36) And he also has, like, some suing people. (3:39) Oh, yeah.
(3:41) He's even trying to sue me, too. (3:43) Yeah. (3:43) His own father.
(4:06) Hi, John. (4:07) How you doing, Joe? (4:08) How you guys feeling? (4:10) Sheriff Penalty's office, how you doing? (4:11) Yeah, it used to be Joe's office. (4:13) Come on in here.
(4:14) Buddy Joe. (4:15) Thank you guys for coming in. (4:17) I scared him a little bit for retirement.
(4:20) Yeah, you got him out of here? (4:22) Yeah, yeah, yeah. (4:22) Thank you. (4:23) I appreciate that.
(4:24) He's got a nice office. (4:25) He's got a nice office. (4:27) I know.
(4:27) If they can change the car here, that'd be great. (4:30) He's working in Grand Island now. (4:32) In the Grand Island schools.
(4:33) Oh, really? (4:33) He's part-time now. (4:34) Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. (4:35) Well, that's what I do, too.
(4:37) Because I tell you, after a month or so, you go a little crazy. (4:41) You got to do something. (4:42) My opinion.
(4:44) I'll let you guys. (4:45) All right, I'll take it. (4:46) Should I take it? (4:56) He says go ahead and get it tested and everything.
(4:59) There's nothing in it other than cornstarch and everything. (5:03) It's not the laxative. (5:09) I'm concerned that things are going to blow and something bad is going to happen.
(5:17) So, I know you didn't want anything done, but it's at the point where I'm going to press charges, okay? (5:25) And so what I would like is to give you guys a statement. (5:28) I don't want to see you get arrested. (5:31) I've been following you.
(5:32) Oh, yeah. (5:33) Okay, and I know that he baits you, and then he starts to record once you get mad. (5:38) He needs help.
(5:41) Your home is not the right environment for him. (5:43) It's not good for you. (5:45) I mean, if you get arrested, who's taking care of Janet? (5:47) Nobody.
(5:48) Let's be honest. (5:49) Yeah, because he won't take care of her. (5:51) What's Andy going to do to her? (5:53) Yeah.
(5:54) So, what I'd like to know, you know, I know you guys don't want to see him getting in trouble, but he's kind of brought this up. (6:04) I mean, I know he called some of you guys this morning. (6:07) I don't know if he called yesterday or anything or what was going on.
(6:10) He calls every day. (6:10) Because I told, I think it was Officer Lynch, is his name? Dave? (6:16) Lawrence. (6:17) Lawrence, okay.
(6:18) That he was the actual one that looked into it after I talked to the officer last week about it, me and Joe came in, (6:24) because we kept on wondering why we're sick and Joe was losing a lot of work and all this stuff. (6:28) And then all of a sudden, I says, it kind of dawned on me, I says, (6:31) Joe's laxative he used when he had the colonoscopy was sitting on the stove. (6:35) And I says, maybe that's slipping into something.
(6:37) But then when he made the comment and then told, I don't know, what's her name, Joanne? (6:41) That he put it in a stew. (6:44) Yeah. (6:44) He put it in your stew? (6:45) Yeah.
(6:46) And then he put it close to a bathroom because it could explode and all this other stuff. (6:50) Did you guys go see a doctor or anything? (6:52) No, we didn't. (6:53) But just two days ago, again, I had some double up cramps.
(6:56) But that day earlier, I found in the kitchen table, and I wish I took a picture before I got rid of it. (7:02) A bottle of Epsom salts. (7:04) And I asked my wife to get a nurse.
(7:05) I says, what do you call double pain in the stomach and everything? (7:09) And my wife says, oh, yeah, that stuff is serious. (7:12) So I don't know if you know this or not, but the right amount of Epsom salts digested can cause heart failure. (7:19) That's how serious it is.
(7:20) Blood pressure, so that. (7:21) Oh, you're right. (7:22) Yeah.
(7:22) And that's what my concern is. (7:24) That's what my wife said. (7:25) He could do it accidentally or whatever.
(7:26) Yeah. (7:28) He's the one who's got Epsom salts, and he's the one who's got red pulse. (7:32) And so when he was in here the other night.
(7:34) Seriously. (7:34) Yeah, I know. (7:35) I'm not trying to get you against your son, but when he was in here the other night, I watched the body camera footage from talking to Lieutenant and Officer Caruso.
(7:43) Yeah, I found it. (7:44) And he thinks it's funny. (7:46) Oh, yeah.
(7:46) He was laughing about it. (7:47) I asked him about it. (7:49) And he says he's done it to you before in the past.
(7:51) Oh, yeah. (7:52) He's done it a long time ago. (7:52) He used to do it.
(7:54) I used to do it on one park back in the day. (7:56) And all of a sudden, I had it on. (7:58) And I told him, don't do it.
(7:59) Yeah. (8:03) So. (8:03) Yeah.
(8:04) So he's admitted it. (8:05) Yeah, after he admitted it. (8:06) He admitted it, and he don't.
(8:07) And I told him right out. (8:09) I says, here's the story. (8:10) Back in the early, late 70s, early 80s, I worked for Mesmers.
(8:14) I don't know if I did before your time. (8:16) For milk. (8:17) I used to go out to Rochester to deliver all the bell stores every morning.
(8:20) Uh-huh. (8:20) And I always took a thermos of coffee. (8:23) Right? (8:24) About halfway through the day, I started feeling funny, but I finished my route.
(8:27) I'm on the way home. (8:28) I feel real lousy. (8:29) I'm going to die or pass out or whatever.
(8:31) I finally get back to Buffalo. (8:33) And I want to. (8:34) I didn't even make it back to Grand Island.
(8:36) I wound up going to St. Joe's emergency room. (8:40) Uh-huh. (8:40) And they took a blood test.
(8:41) And my doctor came back and told me, you know, you're lucky to be alive. (8:44) I says, what do you mean? (8:45) He says, not only did someone put antifreeze in your coffee. (8:49) But they put in three different sleeping pills.
(8:52) And right away, I told Andy, look, this is one thing I'm always scared about. (8:55) Even when I go to a restaurant or anything, walking away from there, (8:59) that somebody could do something to hamper your food. (9:02) And I says, you might be doing it.
(9:04) And then he started laughing. (9:05) Oh, you really do it. (9:06) Do it.
(9:07) Do it. (9:07) And I'm saying to myself, wait a minute. (9:11) Get off.
(9:12) It's one of those. (9:14) I just worry. (9:14) I mean, he doesn't think about the fact that, like, what's he going to do (9:19) when you guys aren't here? (9:20) I try to talk to him about this.
(9:22) He thinks that I'm going to take care of him. (9:24) You're going to take care of him. (9:24) You can't.
(9:25) I said no. (9:27) Well, I went to a three-hour meeting today at Horizon. (9:31) And he met with three psychiatrists today.
(9:34) One behind the mirror and two in the room. (9:37) And I was the neutral party. (9:38) I didn't say anything whatsoever other than listen to the conversations (9:42) and the questions.
(9:43) And they came up with a solution, but they need more time to evaluate. (9:48) They've got a pile of paper like this. (9:49) And what they need is they seem to think he's off the rocker (9:54) because he needs medication.
(9:56) Schizophrenia. (9:57) Right. (9:57) They've got to figure out what the formula is.
(10:00) So he's going back next week to get that done. (10:04) Then afterwards I went to his counselor, Ryan, along with his – (10:09) Yeah, he speaks very highly of Ryan. (10:10) He likes Ryan.
(10:11) Right. (10:11) And he's working with assisted living, (10:15) and he's also working with a nurse that's actually getting him in a day program (10:21) and a nursing facility possibly shortly. (10:25) That's if he wants to go.
(10:26) And here's the thing. (10:29) These are all walkout facilities. (10:32) What we need to do is my plan is to, and it sucks, to arrest him for this, okay, (10:40) and get him into possibly mental health court, okay? (10:45) And then he's mandated to do things, or he sits in the can.
(10:49) Ryan gets locked up. (10:49) He doesn't want to go back. (10:51) That's why he's calling me, and he's all in a panic (10:53) because he knows he screwed up, he knows he did something, (10:57) and we've got to get him into a place where he can't really leave.
(11:02) So before I've had you guys come in, I've already talked to a couple of his counselors, (11:06) not about his diagnosis or anything, (11:07) but they are concerned that if he goes into a place that's not a locked facility, (11:15) and I'm not talking about padded walls and stuff, okay, he doesn't need that, (11:19) but he needs supervision. (11:22) And I think it will make your guys' relationship a lot healthier than what it is, okay? (11:28) If he goes into a structured facility and is court mandated, it's going to be good for him, (11:34) it's going to be good for you, it's going to be good for Janet. (11:37) I mean, how was that time when he was in Amherst? (11:40) How was that time for you guys? (11:41) It was hectic for us.
(11:43) When he was gone? (11:43) When he was gone, because the Amherst police kept on calling me. (11:46) He won't leave him alone. (11:46) 24-7, they were calling.
(11:48) They used to call him for welfare checks sometimes. (11:50) Oh, I know. (11:50) We arrested him for it.
(11:52) Yeah, yeah, he was calling when I was walking the dogs in North Tonawanda on the thing, (11:57) and then I had to come back home. (11:58) Well, besides the calls, how was it? (12:01) When Andy wasn't there and he didn't bother us, it was fine, (12:04) but it wasn't Andy who was calling me directly. (12:06) They were calling my wife in the Amherst police.
(12:08) My wife says, okay, because they all said, look, Andy is lost. (12:16) He doesn't know where he's at. (12:18) He hasn't been fed for days.
(12:20) He doesn't have any food. (12:21) So they wanted to know if we could supply him the food, take him to dinner every night, (12:25) and so on and so forth. (12:27) Then they went back to jail for a while, and then when he got out of jail, (12:30) the thing started on the boulevard.
(12:32) And then he was in and out of the hospitals, too, meanwhile. (12:37) I saw all that. (12:38) You saw the hospitals? (12:39) I saw all of it, yeah.
(12:40) Even now, the hospitals won't even keep him or talk to him anymore. (12:43) No, no. (12:43) They've had it.
(12:44) I told them that the other day. (12:45) So, I mean, these should all be signs for you that he needs to be somewhere else. (12:49) Oh, we know.
(12:50) But anyways, I drove over 3,000 miles this summer just for him, for chasing, (12:56) because either he was lost and he was blue, (12:59) or every time they were calling us, we had to move a step out of the motel. (13:02) He was playing the autistic game at that point. (13:04) But he talked.
(13:05) You should hear him. (13:05) I think he's given up on that. (13:06) I'm not kidding you.
(13:07) I talked to him for probably an hour and a half at least. (13:10) And then, obviously, he was talked for another hour. (13:12) The whole thing was an hour and 43 minutes.
(13:14) But he was talking real clear. (13:15) Yes. (13:16) He was doing it to psychiatrists.
(13:17) The only thing, Tom, the only thing he can't talk clearly about is how you abuse him. (13:23) That's what we call a brick wall. (13:25) Because he can't.
(13:26) Because you're not doing it. (13:28) He baits you. (13:29) He gets you to a point where you're pissed off, (13:31) and then he starts recording to get you to say something.
(13:35) One thing was is you do the same thing that you're blaming your dad for, (13:39) you do worse to him. (13:41) He's harassing you. (13:43) I'm going to go fill these.
(13:45) All right, cool. (13:46) Thanks. (13:46) I appreciate it.
(13:47) Let me know, and I'll back up. (13:48) All right. (13:49) I'll walk him back out.
(13:50) All right. (13:50) You're probably out of here then. (13:51) Yeah, so does my play make sense to you? (13:56) Because I'm going to talk to the judge.
(13:58) I'm going to say this kid needs to be in mental health court. (14:02) I didn't even know there was a mental health court in the first place. (14:05) How come our judge didn't decide to do that the last time when we were in the court? (14:09) Well, we suspended the order of protection that was 100% with me.
(14:14) If the solo's modified, then you could get it taken care of. (14:18) I don't think. (14:25) See, that's the question I would have on that.
(14:27) I want to put home to you. (14:29) I want you to really think about this because what he did could have killed you. (14:35) Yeah.
(14:35) I mean, this is no joke. (14:37) Oh, I know. (14:38) And I know you don't want him arrested.
(14:39) I was ready to go to the emergency room on Saturday, too. (14:42) I know you guys don't want him arrested, okay, but. (14:46) No, we want to get him to health, get him to home.
(14:49) He is burning all his bridges with the advocates, with the counselors. (14:54) He's had at least three placement homes that he's denied. (14:59) Oh, I know.
(15:00) One of them was he was this close to going in. (15:02) Did you hear about it when he was at Erie County Medical? (15:04) He was actually at the residence. (15:07) Really? (15:07) Yes.
(15:07) Okay, the other time he was ready to be leaving to go and they brought him his food (15:12) and he was teed off at the nurse because he didn't have hot sauce. (15:16) Yeah. (15:16) And he took his whole tray and threw it at the nurse.
(15:18) Yeah. (15:19) And yet he denies it because I know my wife got the phone call from the nurse (15:23) saying what happened, but Andy still to today denies the whole thing. (15:27) I mean, he's lucky that nurse probably didn't pass his place.
(15:29) Didn't pass his place. (15:30) I know. (15:31) You know, nurses have big hearts, you know.
(15:34) A lot of these people like this, is it Erica that was helping him? (15:38) Erica. (15:40) He burned that bridge hard. (15:40) She stayed at nights with her sister's hospital.
(15:43) You know on Friday he sent her 67 videos and 101 text messages? (15:48) Oh, I believe it. (15:49) Yeah. (15:50) I got them too.
(15:51) Yeah? (15:52) Yeah, he's been sending a lot of text messages. (15:53) A lot of text messages. (15:55) A lot of pictures.
(15:56) And a lot of people have been saying, hey, we don't want to be in group text anymore. (15:59) He keeps doing it. (16:00) Yeah, he keeps doing it.
(16:00) He makes phone numbers. (16:02) Yeah. (16:03) He's losing friends.
(16:04) And people are having to change their phone numbers. (16:06) Yeah. (16:07) So we got to do something.
(16:08) Yeah. (16:09) Okay? (16:09) Can I get a statement from you guys? (16:12) I mean. (16:13) I mean, either way, without it, I'm still going to arrest him.
(16:16) Just know. (16:16) Yeah. (16:16) Okay.
(16:17) But this helps. (16:19) See, the thing is, how did he find out about it? (16:22) He had him arrested. (16:24) We called, because they, my wife and Joe, I heard them headbanging down the wall when (16:30) they were outside on the porch waiting for me to pull the car up, because we were going (16:33) out deep because he was so out of control.
(16:35) I was there. (16:35) I arrested him. (16:36) Me and Officer Kearson arrested him.
(16:38) You remember that. (16:38) Yeah, I was there. (16:39) It was earlier this year.
(16:40) Okay. (16:40) He accused me. (16:42) He said, and I never told him that I'm the one that signed it.
(16:45) Me and Joe. (16:46) We needed to get him out of there and get arrested, because I found that out from Officer (16:49) Bentley, because earlier that week, or a few days earlier. (16:53) He called that one where he banged a hole in the wall? (16:55) Yeah.
(16:55) Yeah. (16:56) And a couple of days earlier, Officer Bentley was there, I think on a Saturday, and we were (17:00) in the back hallway, because I started throwing him out, discussing the diapers are over the (17:04) Then he wants me to take them. (17:06) I remember.
(17:07) And I threw them out. (17:08) And then. (17:09) Yeah.
(17:10) And I went to open the back door, and I remember, oh yeah, the door was fixed. (17:14) And he said, Officer Bentley. (17:16) He goes, what do you mean? (17:17) I got a dog named Bentley.
(17:18) Dog, yeah. (17:19) Yeah, yeah. (17:19) So anyways, I open up the door and the damn hinge, I said, sorry, I fixed it.
(17:24) He says, what do you mean? (17:25) I said, I had to get the oversized screws to put in the damn thing, because Andy got (17:28) so mad, he ripped off the hinges on the damn thing. (17:30) And I says, how many houses? (17:32) We've been here for over 33 years, living in this house. (17:35) How many people do you know had to replace the front door five times since you've lived (17:42) there? (17:42) I have.
(17:43) Boy, he's hurt somebody. (17:44) He's done some damage. (17:45) Yeah, yeah.
(17:46) Over the years. (17:47) Former officers, when I was younger, were in these restraints. (17:50) Right.
(17:50) I remember those calls. (17:51) But he's the one that told me about the property thing. (17:53) So that's why when I figured, OK, the bed banging, when you came and everything, get (17:58) him in the house and get him the help he needs and all this.
(18:00) But the other thing is, I asked a member if he could be arrested for that, and he said (18:04) he sure can. (18:05) And well, somehow it leaked out to him, he claims. (18:08) He claims.
(18:08) Yeah. (18:09) He manipulated him. (18:10) That me and Joe got him arrested.
(18:12) No. (18:12) And he really been taking it out on us. (18:16) Just like he wants after my contact information with Joanne, because Joanne and Tracy are (18:24) all concerned.
(18:25) Yeah, they're very concerned. (18:26) They also think he needs to be in a facility. (18:28) Yeah.
(18:29) So this would be a faster way to get him in and get him the help than what Horizons is (18:34) doing, because... (18:34) Horizons will take a long time. (18:36) They're just starting to spin the wheels now, because we finally got three psychiatrists (18:41) and doctors. (18:42) And dad, it also comes down to Andy.
(18:44) If he doesn't give him, you know, the first help that he needs, because he's over 21, (18:52) he can deny medical treatment. (18:54) Well, that's what he was saying. (18:55) He actually could walk out of there if he don't want it.
(18:57) Yeah, he can walk out of there. (18:58) But he sounds like to them, unless he's feeding it to me today, that he's willing to do all (19:03) this stuff and do the medicine. (19:04) Yeah, you said that before.
(19:05) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (19:07) So we got a broken record with us, okay? (19:10) And when Andy's right, he's a great guy. (19:13) Yeah.
(19:13) Yeah, when he had the right medicine and everything, oh, he's very, very good. (19:16) You remember over the past year then how he drastically changed and how... (19:20) Listen, I've been out over his whole life. (19:21) I've been dealing with Andy my whole career.
(19:23) And not only that, Nathan Snow knew him from the time the boys were all born. (19:29) You know, they all kind of grew up together. (19:31) Some boy named Andy was away for three years.
(19:33) And like Nathan even says, you know, I can't... (19:36) He changed. (19:36) He says, Andy, one of the biggest things we had... (19:39) I met with Lieutenant Schultz several times too, you know. (19:44) And Mr. Schultz, he's shaking his head and everything.
(19:48) We can't understand. (19:49) Andy, in the last year and a half, you've changed. (19:51) You're not the same person.
(19:53) That's mental illness. (19:53) What the blank? (19:55) And Andy's denying it. (19:56) Like, what do you mean? (19:56) I've always been the same.
(19:57) No. (19:58) He's even claiming to the people that I hear him talking on the phone that he's always (20:01) wore diapers. (20:02) Even when he was almost assistant manager at McDonald's when he worked there for two (20:05) and a half years.
(20:06) Years ago. (20:07) This is one... (20:07) He didn't wear diapers then. (20:09) What's that? (20:09) He didn't wear diapers then.
(20:10) Hell no. (20:11) No. (20:11) He didn't even wear them in bed time.
(20:13) And all of a sudden, he started wearing them just at night time. (20:15) I think Greg has them all online. (20:18) On YouTube.
(20:18) On YouTube. (20:20) And it's just, you know. (20:21) He does.
(20:22) Because of questions. (20:24) I'm not supposed to be asking you questions. (20:26) I'm asking you to.
(20:27) Yeah, I know. (20:27) You don't want to do the statements. (20:29) You don't have to do the statements.
(20:29) I know. (20:30) You can still go and get them done anyways. (20:32) And I wouldn't blame you on that, but I need to show you something.
(20:35) Yeah, absolutely. (20:36) If I can find it now. (20:38) Where the hell is it? (20:38) Come on.
(20:40) He sent this one out today, and I don't know why. (20:42) I remember the one time when my mom got really, really scared when he first came back. (20:49) At first, it was only going to be a day.
(20:51) Because, you know, he couldn't get a housing unit. (20:53) Right. (20:54) And then that turned into a week and then weeks.
(20:57) Probably now he thinks he's going to stay there indefinitely. (21:00) I think it was this one today, Joe. (21:03) What's that? (21:03) He took pictures.
(21:05) Remember I told you he threw some of the wipes. (21:07) Oh, yeah, the diapers in the bathroom. (21:09) Yeah, and it was really, really, really gross.
(21:12) And he's claiming, well, that's because he had diarrhea. (21:18) Yeah, and I'm thinking to myself, how sick is that? (21:20) I had to show Jan that to my wife. (21:23) And I said, you know, Jan, this indicates a real, real problem.
(21:28) I said, because, you know, for one thing, I don't go for that. (21:31) Second of all, maybe it was showing you. (21:34) I mean, eventually.
(21:35) Yeah, this is the one. (21:37) I mean, this is the other thing that's kind of weird. (21:40) Blank's out.
(21:40) He's got a little video thing. (21:42) But then he's got his pill box. (21:44) He's got another picture and then another blank.
(21:47) And then where's the bathroom? (21:49) Yeah, it's on YouTube. (21:50) Really? (21:51) It's on YouTube also? (21:52) I didn't even go on that today. (21:53) I've been so darn busy, I don't know what's going on today.
(21:55) He puts you guys' laundry on there. (21:57) Out to dinner, everything. (21:59) Yeah.
(22:00) The other night we went to Burger King. (22:02) We told him we don't consent to being on YouTube. (22:08) Like me and Joe said, you know how it is.
(22:10) If you accidentally don't make it to the john a little bit, (22:13) and you get a little drip on your underwear, (22:14) you want to wash it up and change it. (22:16) Yeah, but him, he'll walk around with the thing sagging (22:19) and bragging about it in the house. (22:21) Ask Joe.
(22:22) That's probably why he's bleeding, because he's, you know. (22:25) Yeah, he's probably got some diaper rash. (22:27) Yeah.
(22:28) Yeah. (22:29) All right. (22:30) So what I'll do is start with you, Tommy.
(22:34) All right. (22:34) Yeah. (22:35) Andy wants to know why I'm investigating him.
(22:38) He doesn't have to know, okay? (22:41) Don't get baited tonight by him. (22:43) I don't intend to, because he's already questioning and worried. (22:47) He already wants to get an attorney.
(22:48) And he says because I'm his payee, I will have to retain and get an attorney (22:53) and all this other stuff for him. (22:54) Like you're investigating a fraud or something like that. (22:57) Yeah, that's fine.
(22:59) That would be something suspicious in a bank account. (23:01) Let's just get this started. (23:02) Oops.
(23:03) And then I'll have to let Social Security know (23:06) and I'll have to send the money back next month when he gets it. (23:09) Yeah, well, what about that phone? (23:11) Well, that's the only problem. (23:12) I'm stuck with that phone and the phone payment.
(23:15) No. (23:16) For the next two months. (23:18) It's in my name.
(23:19) Well, it's either that or he poisons your food and you die. (23:22) Yeah. (23:22) Yeah.
(23:23) You know. (23:24) Well, he somehow sabotages other phone that's like this. (23:28) Yeah.
(23:28) And he said it was because a Walmart family plan he had. (23:32) Yeah. (23:32) After he lost his privilege to have a family mobile or whatever one he had.
(23:39) They turned his phone off and he had to pay for the phone. (23:41) But anyways, they locked him out. (23:43) He couldn't get it restarted.
(23:44) And they kept borrowing mine and Jan's phone all the time. (23:47) And finally, he kept on talking to me. (23:49) Well, Dad, you've got an account with Spectrum and everything.
(23:53) Why don't you give me a mobile phone and get a mobile line and everything. (23:56) I says, why Andy? (23:57) We've got Verizon. (23:59) I don't want to do that.
(24:00) He says, well, because you don't have any credit notes. (24:02) And he bugged me and bugged my wife and wouldn't leave us alone. (24:08) And finally, I said, okay, every time I got my phone back, (24:12) he'd delete half my stuff on her, my apps and all this other.
(24:16) And I got a little fed up because things I had marked down, I don't even know. (24:20) So I said, fine. (24:22) I says, we'll go and get one for him.
(24:23) And then he got it. (24:25) And there was a 14-day trial period. (24:27) And, of course, he has to get the best one, you know, quote, unquote.
(24:31) The over $1,000 one. (24:34) So they got a plan in my name for $133 for 18 months. (24:40) That's including the payment of the phone.
(24:47) Guys' house was clean. (24:49) Everything was getting monocular. (24:51) And getting straightened out finally, little by little.
(24:53) And then all of a sudden, bingo. (24:55) Yeah, my dad didn't even get a chance to do the diapers (24:59) because my brother's been on them. (25:01) And I've been working.
(25:04) And that's something else entirely. (25:06) I just got to put some information in here. (25:10) And here's the strange part.
(25:11) Walmart Family Mobile called the other day saying that. (25:14) They've been calling recently. (25:17) They're going to close the account if you don't reply (25:20) because Andy filed a complaint or a lawsuit (25:24) against the Federal Communications Services.
(25:31) Yeah. (25:32) And when I heard that, I figured, okay, I think I better let Andy know (25:37) so that he can talk to him. (25:39) I think it was this one here.
(25:43) Yes, good morning, Mr. Jitsch. (25:45) My name is Teresa. (25:47) And I'm calling from TracFone Wireless corporate office in Miami, Florida.
(25:53) And now it's Walmart Family Mobile. (25:56) I'm calling regarding a complaint you filed with FCC (26:01) regarding your phone number, 716-416-8920. (26:08) If you can give me a call back.
(26:10) My number is 305-715-6500. (26:17) My extension is 6136. (26:20) I'm going to go ahead and send you a last email.
(26:24) I'm going to close the complaint. (26:26) But if you feel, because I've called you many times, (26:28) if you feel that you need my help still, give me a call back. (26:34) If not, well, the complaint is closed.
(26:36) Thank you and have a good day. (26:39) These phones are over $1,000. (26:41) Get it unlocked.
(26:42) At least you could sell it and get some type of refund on it and everything. (26:45) He completely ignored it and everything. (26:47) And I said, you know what? (26:48) He acted like he didn't want to get it unlocked (26:50) or like Joe and I discussed early in the morning when we go to work.
(26:55) You know, maybe he wouldn't give himself the excuse (27:00) so he could get the updated, the new one. (27:04) Because he's the type of person (27:05) that as soon as there's an update on another phone, he wants it. (27:09) And he wants it right away.
(27:11) And you don't need a phone every year. (27:15) Unbelievable. (27:16) Because there's like little changes between every year.
(27:18) Yeah, it's not significant enough. (27:22) Put your phone on the shelf. (27:25) He's got a lot of potential.
(27:26) He's got a lot of intelligence. (27:28) He knows a lot about law and all this stuff, electronics and all this. (27:32) I said, you know, Andy, you're just wasting your life.
(27:34) There's so many things you could be involved in doing. (27:37) Just put that to it. (27:38) But like I said, if he's got a mental thing, well, that's the problem.
(27:42) If we could get that mental problem out of him, he would be a person. (27:48) He's a person that needs help. (27:51) Sometimes this is the road you have to go.
(27:54) Like I told him, I really don't want to ever see him wind up getting in real, real trouble (28:00) like he did with his mother when she had the aneurysms in her head. (28:06) And we didn't know about it at the time. (28:08) And Andy had his fist right up to her face and his nose and screamed and yelled at the top of his lungs (28:13) because Andy couldn't talk.
(28:15) She couldn't answer his questions. (28:17) She couldn't get the words out. (28:20) I said, holy Christ's sake, you can't do that to a woman.
(28:23) That's got a lot of problems. (28:25) I've been warning my dad, too, that eventually Andy could be, like you said, (28:31) he may not mean it, but he could do something to him. (28:34) He could do something to him just to get him going.
(28:36) And it's something he can't take back. (28:38) Yeah. (28:39) All right, Joseph, I'm going to start with you, okay? (28:41) Make sure I have your birthday right.
(28:42) 4-27-1988? (28:44) Yep. (28:48) I mean, I'm not home all the time, but I'm home enough to know what's going on. (28:53) How's Walmart? (28:55) Getting busy.
(28:56) Yeah, holiday time. (28:58) You're going to be helping soon. (29:00) Yeah.
(29:02) Yeah, I was missing a couple days of work because, you know, (29:08) not only that, I was missing a couple days of work because I'm afraid for my parents with my brother. (29:13) That's what my wife was telling me, too. (29:16) She said, Joe's been staggering off.
(29:18) What? (29:19) Oh, yeah, she knows. (29:20) I don't know if she remembers or not. (29:23) Sometimes she, her memory goes.
(29:25) Oh. (29:26) And it's like, I'll remind her later on. (29:29) Because, like she said, she doesn't say very much.
(29:32) We used to have good conversations and discussions and everything. (29:36) There's not much happening anymore. (29:37) But a lot of times it's 20 hours in a day.
(29:41) And I have to do almost about everything for her. (29:45) I try to get her out once in a while as much as I can. (29:48) When I can get her dressed, get her out.
(29:49) There's times she won't even go. (29:52) Wow.

Spoiler: Second half hour

(0:02) Unfortunately, you don't want to go unless you feel right. (0:07) I'm not going to mention having all them problems. (0:08) So what day did this happen? (0:10) Was this the 20th? (0:14) What day did you guys leave? (0:16) We joined here on the 23rd.
(0:20) 23rd? (0:21) I'm not sure of her name. (0:24) I think she's a new officer. (0:26) Leah.
(0:26) Leah? (0:27) Yes, Datura. (0:28) Yeah, that's us. (0:31) So on the 20th? (0:33) Yeah, I would say.
(0:34) Yeah, it was a couple days earlier. (0:36) After we got a text message from Joanne. (0:39) Like I told her that Officer Bentley was at our house either day or day before that.
(0:44) When did you eat the stew the day or that day? (0:46) Yeah, what day was that? (0:48) I think it was Friday or Saturday. (0:52) One of the two. (0:55) Because I remember we talked to Officer Bentley when he came to the house.
(0:59) And then he also gave Andy about... (1:03) Okay, here's the text message that I received on October 18th from him. (1:09) From? (1:11) He said he enjoyed not doing papers. (1:20) Okay.
(1:21) All right, so this is when you ate the stew? (1:24) Yeah, I'm going to say it was on the 18th. (1:26) Because I asked my wife, I said, if you get a laxative or if you get unseasoned or anything, (1:33) I said, how long did you eat the stew? (1:34) She said, approximately six hours. (1:38) Okay, that matches up to what happened to me.
(1:40) That matches up to... (1:41) So did Joanne eat the stew too? (1:43) Yeah, and she had it too. (1:44) She had it. (1:45) I asked her afterwards.
(1:46) She didn't tell me because she's got more access to the bathroom and a lot of things. (1:50) She's in the bathroom even when she's reading or playing her puzzles or whatever, relaxing, (1:57) just to get out of the bedroom because she's locked upstairs most of the time (2:00) because she doesn't want to come downstairs because Andy's down there. (2:10) And the day that we saw Officer Leah, my mom had to go to the restroom real bad.
(2:18) Yeah, I said, sorry, I got to interrupt you, but I got to get her moments out. (2:23) She's not the one way, she's got to go the other way. (2:26) You know, it just came on all of a sudden, sort of like with all of us.
(2:29) And I was thinking, it's been on and off. (2:31) And it's like Jo says, it's really, really weird. (2:33) So you guys ate the stew.
(2:34) Yep. (2:35) And later on that day, after that, you got a text from Andy? (2:39) We got a text message from Andy saying, enjoy not doing papers. (2:43) Okay, hang on.
(2:43) I can't type that fast, brother. (2:46) You got it. (2:47) You got the text, but I didn't get no text.
(2:49) And then also he got a text from Joanne. (2:52) Oh, he sent it to everybody. (2:55) Enjoy not doing papers.
(2:57) You will need a diaper. (2:59) Okay, hang on. (3:01) And he claims, the only reason why he did that for us (3:04) was to get a reaction from Joanne and Erica and all them.
(3:08) And it said, Miralax was added to the stew. (3:11) And we had Miralax. (3:12) And it said, okay, can I just read the text? (3:14) Is that cool? (3:15) Sure.
(3:15) And then after this, I'm going to have you screenshot all the text (3:17) and then email it to me. (3:19) You can do that? (3:19) Yep. (3:19) All right, cool.
(3:20) All right, okay. (3:38) Yeah, I'm basically, you know, got all the text messages and stuff. (3:50) Because I'm like, you know, my brother likes to get my mom's phone when she's sleeping.
(3:54) Same thing with my dad. (3:55) And he likes to mess around so he can, you know, potentially, you know, (3:59) disturb all the information. (4:02) He disturbs the information.
(4:03) Also, we wonder if he even uses our phone for making threats (4:08) or sending things out to other people and making it sound like we were doing it (4:11) instead of him directly from his phone, you know. (4:15) Because it's strange. (4:17) Like I told mom last night, I usually put my charger on the dresser.
(4:21) Charge it. (4:22) It wasn't plugged in. (4:23) Does he mean the dogs will too? (4:25) What's that? (4:27) Yeah, he said just to think the dogs do as well.
(4:34) Obviously, dogs are dogs. (4:35) They probably don't know what's going on. (4:39) Well, then they had to go out a little bit more often.
(4:51) All right, so screenshot all those. (4:53) I'll write down my country, my car, my email address on it, (4:56) and you can email it to me, okay? (4:58) Yep. (4:59) We'll do this soon.
(5:00) And how do you know that's from Andy? (5:03) There's a 243-9653. (5:05) That's his number. (5:06) Okay.
(5:09) He also likes to, um, he also likes to, um, (5:15) California somehow and fake ones and stuff. (5:20) He also likes to use the police number too. (5:24) He's glad that we didn't do it.
(5:27) He was laughing about it the one day, (5:28) that I didn't dial that number. (5:30) Otherwise, it would have went about, I don't know, (5:32) it was this police force or it was the Amherst or whatever. (5:35) And otherwise, what are you talking about, Andy? (5:38) I don't even know about any of this stuff.
(5:41) Joseph, when did you start? (5:42) So what happened after you received that text? (5:45) Um, I immediately showed, um, asked my dad and my mom (5:49) if they got the same text. (5:51) My mom said she did. (5:53) My dad said he didn't, but it does say that, (5:58) that it was sent to him because he was in a group text.
(6:02) Because all of a sudden, a lot of times, Andy goes, (6:04) Dad, let me see your phone. (6:05) I don't want to give it to him. (6:06) Because he'll get back and screwed up.
(6:08) But he, uh, I don't know what he does with my phone. (6:11) That's all of it. (6:14) Oh, I got to put the, uh, new, um, um.
(6:19) I wouldn't let him use your phone. (6:21) Well, I don't anymore. (6:23) What do you think? (6:23) Okay.
(6:24) Okay, so after you showed, after the text, you never what? (6:28) Oh, it was a good while before I actually did have to use the. (6:30) What would you say? (6:39) I'm trying to think. (6:41) An approximate is fine.
(6:42) I mean, like, I don't, I mean, the thing I think what really happened, (6:47) how he would have done something, (6:49) and this is the reason why I had to go in with my dad, (6:52) because he would be mostly affected. (6:54) Because I think what he did is he put it in the water reservoir of the. (6:59) Yeah.
(6:59) And I don't, you know, I don't drink out of there unless. (7:06) Or, um, you know, sometimes the water pressure is real low. (7:10) I go to the, I go to the.
(7:12) Because the bread is also, you know, that they're going to use that. (7:16) But, uh. (7:17) So you started feeling effects though.
(7:19) I did feel some effects. (7:20) Like a couple hours later, a few hours later. (7:22) I would say a few hours later when I had to use the restroom.
(7:29) Sorry, we're getting personal here. (7:31) Yeah. (7:32) But.
(7:34) That's kind of like going to the doctor and being like. (7:36) Yeah. (7:37) So what would you say, um, so you had to use the restroom and how was it? (7:45) Well, as soon as I got off, it seemed like I had to go back on it again.
(7:59) And I know if I would have waited, I wouldn't have made the restroom. (8:03) Okay. (8:03) What kind of symptoms were you feeling? (8:07) Uh, I had a little bit of cramping.
(8:13) I think I was, I think I had, I may have had a fever. (8:17) Because I was also feeling a little like chilly that day. (8:23) I'm not sure if that was part of it.
(8:24) Sure. (8:25) I mean, the flu, this is the reason why we're like, is it this or is it that? (8:30) I mean, because, you know, the flu was going around at the same time. (8:34) Well, that was the other question too, because, you know, we didn't see him.
(8:38) We only know what he showed on the internet when he said to other people or whatever. (8:42) And that left the evidence out, like I told you. (8:44) Okay.
(8:45) The episode was sitting on the kitchen table that morning that I came back from doing papers. (8:49) Well, let me get this from Joe first. (8:50) Yeah.
(8:50) So I don't get anything mixed up. (8:52) I mean, after that, we started getting, receiving text messages. (8:57) And my mom got a phone call from Tracy about her being very concerned with my brother (9:04) and saying that he has autism and none of her two children, (9:10) who are one of two boys that has autism, acts in that manner.
(9:14) And I actually have that voicemail. (9:16) Okay. (9:17) We'll leave that part out of it.
(9:18) I want to stick to what you experienced after eating the stew. (9:26) So you were feeling a little chilly that day. (9:28) I only had one medium, you know, one medium setting.
(9:36) I didn't really have a lot to eat. (9:41) So you had, like, one medium-sized bowl? (9:44) Yeah. (9:44) So after that, I was pretty okay.
(9:48) But in the past week and a half, I've been having, you know, cramps again. (9:54) So I'm not sure if he... (9:56) Did it again or not? (9:57) Yeah. (9:58) Okay.
(9:59) Okay. (10:06) You know, it's funny. (10:07) I was at the dinner table, and I noticed this bottle on the ground right by the entertainment center (10:16) that had a purple cap, and it was a laxative.
(10:21) At the dinner table? (10:22) Yeah. (10:22) That day you were eating? (10:24) No, today. (10:25) Today.
(10:25) Joe goes, yeah, look at this. (10:27) And I remember, because just recently, I started picking up around the floor in the dining room table (10:31) because he's got the visiting nurse and OT people coming in and stuff. (10:35) And I'm ashamed of what the house looks like, (10:37) and I feel sorry for these people that have to try to come in and work around it.
(10:40) So I started picking things up. (10:41) But I don't remember seeing that bottle. (10:43) Joe took a picture of it tonight.
(10:46) Okay, screenshot that. (10:47) Isn't this? (10:48) Yep, it's already taken a picture. (10:50) I can send that to you.
(10:51) Awesome. (10:52) Did you show Mom that already today? (10:54) Yeah, Mom already knows. (10:55) Okay, so she knows.
(10:56) I mean, it has a script on the front. (10:59) I didn't take a picture. (10:59) I said to do it secretly and quietly because Andy was right around, (11:04) nosing and trying to find out what's going on, and I didn't want to say anything.
(11:06) And he's been trying to get at my phone to see what's been said between me and Joanne, (11:12) and I said that's none of your business, for one. (11:15) And for two, why do you want the information? (11:20) So he has a guilty conscience of something. (11:24) Yeah.
(11:32) Did you approach Andy about this text message and stuff? (11:36) Did you say anything to him? (11:37) Did he admit anything to you? (11:39) Did he? (11:39) Well, when we were at Checkers, when we were having a fit. (11:44) When was this? (11:46) Last week. (11:47) Last week sometime.
(11:48) My dad tried to, you know, trick my brother into telling us what the bag on the chair was in the dining room. (12:02) And at first he wouldn't answer the question. (12:06) Okay, hang on.
(12:07) I'm typing this. (12:08) This bag? (12:15) I'm not sure if it's that bag or a different bag. (12:20) We have a text message from Joanne who just forwarded it to our phones.
(12:24) Okay. (12:26) It was the bag in the living room or what did Andy say? (12:27) Actually, that bag. (12:28) Andy claims that's the only one he has.
(12:30) But the one we saw. (12:32) He's got a video of him walking. (12:33) Yeah, it looked like a different one than what he was describing.
(12:37) So he might be playing, he might be showing you one, and he might have the other one stashed. (12:41) And I thought, okay, he knew this was going to happen. (12:44) We're going to figure this out sooner or later.
(12:45) So he filled the bag and stashed it somewhere so he could continue doing his enjoyment, making us miserable. (12:53) What did Andy say about the bag? (12:56) As far as the conversation, because it was actually on a phone. (12:59) I think my dad has it on recording.
(13:01) Yeah. (13:03) I really wasn't, you know, listening that well, so to speak, because it was on his phone. (13:11) And we were actually getting into the car.
(13:13) But he was denying that it was anything but what he's been telling you guys. (13:21) Which is, you know, trying to say that it's corn starch or whatever. (13:28) And he also says that text message was sent to only Joanne to see if we were, you know, still talking to her.
(13:36) Which Andy claims that you guys said that we're not allowed to talk to Joanne anymore. (13:42) Yeah. (13:45) We weren't allowed to talk to anybody.
(13:46) I talked to Joanne. (13:49) I've talked to everybody before I've talked to you. (13:51) I did my homework.
(13:54) It's strange that Andy didn't want us to know. (13:57) All right, so what else would you like to put in here? (13:59) Do you feel that Andy did do something to you? (14:02) I believe he is capable. (14:05) Yeah, but do you believe that he did something to you that day? (14:08) And that's why you're feeling ill? (14:12) Big question on that one.
(14:13) We really questioned it a lot. (14:15) I mean, I mean... (14:17) I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but then again in my head says no. (14:20) Okay.
(14:21) Because, you know, he's, you know, I would say it's... (14:26) Because I asked him not to do something like that, to get around with something with food or anything because he would like it. (14:31) Now he's accusing because the refrigerator's dirty or that's dirty. (14:35) The way he's acting now, I think he's acting suspicious.
(14:39) So he had to have done... (14:41) Guilty. (14:41) Something. (14:44) Yeah, especially you didn't want to talk.
(14:46) You didn't want us to say anything or do anything with you at all whatsoever tonight. (14:49) Because I've seen that. (14:51) I've seen, you know, where people are trying to, you know... (14:54) I work customer service and people come up to me all the time and I'm like... (14:58) You can always tell who's... (14:59) One of the serial numbers doesn't match.
(15:01) Or they have a receipt from, say, Niagara Falls and I'm like looking at inventory label and I'm like... (15:08) Oh, this inventory label is from our store. (15:12) I'm key at that. (15:13) I'm like, it has inventory label.
(15:15) I always look at it. (15:17) And then they start getting nervous and say, hey, can I go to the bathroom? (15:20) And then they just disappear and never come back. (15:22) Oh, God.
(15:23) Yeah. (15:23) Yeah, I sort of like what Andy's doing right now. (15:26) Because the first thing he did when he knew that we make... (15:30) You made contact with me earlier and I was driving at the time.
(15:32) I got the message. (15:33) I was out in Niagara Falls when I... (15:36) Yeah, that's okay. (15:36) And I thought, okay.
(15:38) And I mentioned it when I got home and all that stuff. (15:40) And I says, Andy, what's going on? (15:42) These people want to get a hold of me and want to talk to me. (15:45) I can show you some text messages.
(15:46) And they kept on saying, oh, no, don't call them. (15:48) Don't call them. (15:49) No, no.
(15:49) And I said, well, wait a minute. (15:51) Why? (15:51) Yeah. (15:52) What's going on, Andy? (15:53) Yeah.
(15:53) Did you threaten them? (15:55) Or is there something more serious than what's going on in the first place? (15:59) And you're not telling me. (16:01) And he's, oh, no, no, Dad, nothing's going on. (16:02) Here's a... (16:03) And right away he got a call on the wire.
(16:04) Here's a text message my brother, our Joanne received from Andy. (16:11) But she just forwarded it, so it comes up under her number. (16:14) Uh-huh.
(16:15) Yeah. (16:17) That was today, Joe? (16:18) No, no, this was the other day. (16:19) I have this.
(16:20) You have that one? (16:21) Yeah, I have it right here. (16:25) All right. (16:25) I don't want to power off.
(16:28) Okay. (16:30) And so you have this bag then. (16:33) Mm-hmm.
(16:34) And you have about saying, Dan, delete everything about Andy. (16:38) He doesn't have those tampering texts. (16:41) No, I don't have that one.
(16:42) You can send that one to me. (16:44) Send that one to you? (16:44) Please. (16:46) All right.
(16:47) So now you're getting information from other people that Andy's... (16:51) Yeah, and they're concerned for us and our safety, including my wife, (16:55) especially Jan, because she's the most vulnerable one of all of us, (16:58) because she's got all the medical... (17:00) I mean, she's got the worst problems of anybody, (17:03) and that's probably why she's following you. (17:04) She's feeling so crappy and lousy and falling and passing out (17:07) and everything else. (17:09) We had to have the paramedics out twice last week, (17:13) and we haven't had to have them in a long time.
(17:15) Well, my brother's also blaming my mom for everything that went wrong with him. (17:19) Well, he's really pressuring her. (17:21) Okay.
(17:21) And I think she's scared because, like I said, Jan, what's going on? (17:25) She says, I'm really worried that our time, (17:27) when you go to work with Joe for the two hours that you're gone or three, (17:31) that something might happen, because once you go, Andy never sleeps. (17:36) Yeah. (17:36) And Andy's upstairs usually in her face.
(17:39) And there's a lot of times we come home and we can't find Andy anywhere, (17:43) but Andy's upstairs talking to her. (17:46) I will label this subject as Andy. (17:50) Okay, that's fine.
(17:51) How much are you concerned here, Joseph? (17:55) I'm just concerned eventually, like I've told my mom, (18:00) he's going to do something, whether he realizes it or not. (18:02) He's going to hurt us bad. (18:03) Or means it or not.
(18:05) He's going to hurt somebody. (18:08) Or he can hurt himself. (18:10) Like I told Officer Bentley, it's going to be sooner or later probably.
(18:14) And, you know, you guys know about it, (18:17) but there's nothing you can do about it because he hasn't done anything. (18:20) But we live with him. (18:23) We know what it's like and everything.
(18:25) And you've really got to watch him sharply day and night. (18:28) And it is impossible, because sooner or later you have to close your eyes (18:30) and go to sleep. (18:32) The only other thing I was going to come up with a solution is, (18:35) granted none of the cameras work in the house anymore, (18:38) because he broke the damn thing.
(18:39) He broke it. (18:40) I would have to replace the, what is that, box? (18:44) The one here? (18:45) Yeah, to get it back monitoring and get things working. (18:49) Is that Andy that keeps texting you? (18:51) I do believe it is.
(18:52) He does this all night long. (18:53) Does he really? (18:54) Yeah. (18:54) Oh, my gosh.
(18:55) He bothers people. (18:57) How do you get any sleep? (18:58) Well, I work all night. (18:59) Don't forget.
(19:00) But the thing is, even when I'm sleeping through the day, it's going off. (19:03) And this one lady, Tracy, she don't even live in this state. (19:06) Andy got online and I said, how did you find out about her? (19:09) Because she don't even live around here.
(19:11) It's an autism group. (19:13) And I think he wanted to get in that group, act like them, (19:16) so he could find out how to act like other people that have autism. (19:21) And he found out that no autism is the same.
(19:24) Everybody's different. (19:26) And he didn't know all that crap before. (19:26) We have some similar traits.
(19:28) Right, right, right, right. (19:30) And he had this lady fooled for a while. (19:32) She bought him a nice air mattress because we were abusing him (19:36) when he came back in our place.
(19:37) And I told him, you're only going to stay until you call 2-1-1 next morning. (19:40) Get the blank out of here. (19:42) And all of a sudden I see Andy's already made himself at home.
(19:45) I says, um, Judge Saltinelli said, no way, you can stay here legally. (19:51) Verbally he said, you can visit, you can eat, (19:56) but you cannot live at 339 Morgan. (19:59) And what does Andy do? (20:01) He won't leave.
(20:02) And Strausky, Officer Strausky got mad at me (20:05) because I locked him out a couple of times. (20:06) And he had to call him. (20:07) And Officer Strausky had to come to the door (20:10) and he'd wait for me to come home with the dogs.
(20:12) He says, Tom, come here, you can't do that. (20:14) I says, what do you mean? (20:15) You can't lock him out. (20:17) You've got to let him in.
(20:18) I says, well, technically speaking, I didn't lock him out, Officer. (20:21) I says, but I will not give him the key anymore (20:25) like I did in the past because he's not welcome. (20:28) He says, I don't care, you still have to let him in (20:30) or unlock the door or leave the door unlocked when you go out.
(20:34) I says, you're kidding. (20:36) I says, Jan's upstairs all by herself. (20:39) And what am I going to do if somebody walks by (20:41) and opens up the door and comes in there (20:42) and goes upstairs and does something to her? (20:45) She wouldn't have a chance in a second to call you guys.
(20:47) Another thing is that when I'm trying to sleep (20:51) or getting ready for work, he comes up and wakes me up (20:55) when I'm going to have a dead sleep. (20:57) So who would use that purple bottle? (21:00) Is that prescribed to somebody? (21:01) That one is Andy's. (21:03) It's Andy's.
(21:04) But I didn't take a picture of the prescription on it. (21:09) Do you think it's old? (21:11) I don't know. (21:12) We don't know.
(21:12) Andy's had so many stomach complaints (21:14) and all kinds of hospital visits and his own primary. (21:17) When was the last time he had a stomach complaint? (21:19) Just recently he started complaining on and off. (21:21) He was saying that he has a GI.
(21:22) He was supposed to go to the, what's your doctor's name? (21:26) You guys have the same symptoms. (21:27) Yeah, well that one doctor that Joe has the colonoscopy problem. (21:31) What's his name, Joe? (21:33) Your doctor? (21:34) Piscitelli.
(21:35) Yeah, Andy, I talked to him the one day he got mad. (21:37) He said, Andy, this better be a medical thing because I'm a medical doctor. (21:41) And Andy wanted to get a colonoscopy because he's claiming he's bleeding (21:43) and all this stuff down there again.
(21:45) And he says, Andy, okay, fine. (21:47) Then go and pick up one of them packages at Kenmore Mercy. (21:50) Give me the test and send it.
(21:52) Andy's never gone there, never picked it up or anything, (21:55) but he made a big issue out of it that he's bleeding. (21:58) And he's pretending he put, I think he put ketchup or something in the toilet (22:01) and make it bleed that we think he's bleeding and stuff. (22:05) When you're bleeding rectally, you're not red, it's dark black.
(22:10) What kind of red? (22:11) It could be red. (22:12) Yeah, it could be a little bit red, but like she says, more than likely. (22:15) I don't know where it's bleeding to.
(22:17) Andy's claiming it was internal and it wasn't his rectum area. (22:20) It was like when I had the problem, it was red. (22:23) It would be maroon.
(22:25) Right, and my wife said to Andy, you know, if you bleeded as long as you did (22:28) and the doctor didn't do anything about it, that would be malpractice. (22:31) But you wouldn't do that. (22:33) Yeah, yeah.
(22:35) There would be some serious issues. (22:37) Exactly. (22:39) Why don't you take a gamble and make sure that that's accurate to what you told me.
(22:48) I'll tell you, we could write a storybook, I'll tell you. (22:51) Yeah, I know, you've been through a lot. (22:54) You've been through a lot.
(22:56) It's got to end before something bad happens. (22:59) It just does. (23:00) Oh, I don't want Wi-Fi.
(23:03) Come on, I don't want Wi-Fi. (23:04) What's happening? (23:06) What am I, a video game? (23:11) Andrew, are you playing with me? (23:12) Because he has control over these devices somehow. (23:16) Well, you shouldn't because they're under my name now.
(23:19) Now look at y'all, I didn't even put the camera on and the camera's on. (23:23) As soon as I. (23:24) Well, if you do it from that, you can actually, you know. (23:27) Yeah, but I don't even have it unlocked.
(23:31) I usually got to unlock it with my passcode, you know. (23:35) I don't know, maybe it's just me. (23:38) He's got me already, you know what I mean? (23:45) This thing is so little, I can't.
(23:49) The font's too small for my little eyes. (23:51) That's Andy, he's got another one. (23:54) Is he asking me what's going on? (24:03) Just like I said, we're investigating fraud that might be, you know.
(24:09) Trying to find out who's, you know, getting into our accounts. (24:29) Gee, Andy's trying to be a good boy tonight. (24:31) He says, I'm taking Tucker for a walk and I'm calling on the text.
(24:35) The stew, I know I was kind of like all over the place. (24:39) The stew would have been before the text message. (24:45) It says, I wrote in the next sentence, after that I received a text message from my brother.
(24:50) Yeah, and I see in that paragraph too that I told you about the meat. (24:54) If the garbage tote's ready. (24:57) I'll put that in, I'll change that around a little bit.
(25:00) Yeah, because I would put that before the text message. (25:05) Okay, I'll do that. (25:23) He also doesn't want me to sign, actually he doesn't even want me to sign the paperwork to tell you the truth.
(25:28) Well, you have to sign it in order to say that it's your statement. (25:31) Yep. (25:33) You can add that if you want, you know, because... (25:37) He doesn't want either one of us to sign the paper.
(25:45) And he said that right before we came over here. (26:06) Yeah, we can get him into mental health court. (26:08) He's not saying anything about what we're doing and everything.
(26:11) But he's trying to be super nice by texting me to ask if the tote's ready to go out to the front. (26:17) Well, if he looks out to the front, it's already there. (26:21) And he was taking the dog earlier for a walk, took Tucker for a walk.
(26:24) And I'm thinking, okay, didn't you see it when he went out the front door? (26:27) It smacked straight in front of you when he came out the door. (26:37) How often does he take the garbage out? (26:39) Never. (26:40) He usually always on his computer or on the phone.
(26:43) Alright, so this is garbage, right? (26:44) Yeah. (26:45) Once in a while, and it's a great while, he might bring the empty one back. (26:50) Okay, so this, oh, one more thing.
(26:52) Who found this little baggie of Corsair? (26:55) Apparently, my brother gave it to my dad. (26:57) Okay. (26:57) He gave it to me, but he claims he gave it to one of your officers and asked them to check it to do a test.
(27:04) And then he brought it up to my room when I was sleeping the other day and said, here, dad. (27:33) He constantly called Joe. (27:39) Just like when he was at the hospital the other night.
(27:42) They kicked him out. (27:43) They didn't want to see him. (27:44) They didn't want to put him in a room.
(27:47) And so he kept on calling us and says, Andy, we're doing the papers. (27:50) How long is it going to be? (27:50) I says, Andy, you know approximately how long it takes. (27:53) And then once I'm done, I'll let you know and I'll be on my way.
(27:56) Because he couldn't take an Uber. (27:58) And he was saying that there was a Buffalo police officer there ready to arrest him. (28:03) Arrest him for loitering and everything.
(28:05) For loitering at the hospital. (28:06) And I said, they're not going to do that. (28:08) You were brought in by ambulance, am I correct? (28:09) He says, yeah.
(28:10) I says, there you have it. (28:12) You have to explain you have to wait for a ride and the ride is tied up right now. (28:17) Oh, man, he was terrible.
(28:18) Joe goes, oh, he called again? (28:20) I says, yeah, about every five minutes. (28:26) Instead of, hey, it takes whatever time it takes to get it done and then we'll be on our way. (28:31) He's lucky we picked him up.
(28:32) And then as soon as he got home, he started rampaging going after you, remember? (28:36) Yeah. (28:38) And he said, Dad, stuff like that, don't pick them up. (28:43) But yet we give in every time.
(28:44) Oh, okay, Andy. (28:45) We'll try it again. (28:47) I mean, you fall, you try to pick yourself up and start all over again, right? (28:51) So where would mental health court be? (28:53) Buffalo.
(28:54) Buffalo? (29:09) He keeps talking about the jail psychiatrist. (29:12) His name is Dr. Martin. (29:15) Martin.
(29:16) Sound familiar at all? (29:19) He did the forensic one for the judge. (29:22) And he's always wanting to go back to jail. (29:23) Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(29:24) And he keeps bringing it up, all the evidence and how he helped them. (29:26) And they kept in a straight line and everything. (29:28) And I know that they had to get him out of there the last time, too.
(29:32) I heard they're now getting some sheriffs fed up and angry, and they got suspended. (29:38) But a couple of the inmates wanted to get after him and pound him, too, (29:41) because they couldn't take Andy anymore. (29:43) Yeah.
(29:44) Yeah, so, I mean, you can go up and look on NewYorkCourts.gov (29:48) and look up mental health courts, and they'll give you the overview and everything. (29:51) Yeah. (29:52) So that's my goal.
(29:54) That's what I want to happen. (29:55) Yeah.

 

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(0:00) And that way there he can't, you know, he can't also be like, well, this doctor gave me a false (0:05) diagnosis. Yeah, he's got to go. It's going to be judge-mandated. If we can get him in there, (0:09) it'll be it'll be judge-mandated that he's in there. (0:15) Okay, so, Joseph, there should be four here. Yeah, there's four copies here. On this line, (0:25) on all four copies, put your John Hancock there. Put your Joseph Hancock right on there.
(0:33) Let's see. Yep, so right at the top right line. (0:43) Middle initial should I put on?
Yeah, if you want to, however you normally sign it. (0:54) I gotta renew my license next year.
I'm not looking forward to it. (1:02) Because apparently, in order to vote, you have to have an enhanced license. (1:07) No, I thought that was only if you got to go into courtrooms and stuff or an airplane.
(1:11) I don't know. Well, yeah, so the passport to go to Canada and stuff like that, (1:16) they want it enhanced. Well, they want it on the license now.
The passport aren't good enough. (1:22) Yeah, that's what they told me when I renewed my license. (1:25) Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and there's an extra 35 bucks.
And I said, you know what, I'll hold (1:28) off on it because I very rarely go to Canada or anything anyway, so it doesn't matter to me, (1:33) you know. I'll be like, jeez, if I get jury duty, does that mean I wouldn't be able to go to court (1:40) because I'm not allowed in a federal building without an enhanced license? (1:43) There might be an exception in that point, though. (1:47) I have no idea.
Nobody really knows right now how it's going to work. (1:55) That's kind of crazy, like, well, they put you on the force, just like with the new license plate (1:59) thing. I think Tacoma will back off on that.
Yeah, just get new ones and they want to renew (2:05) them again. They have you turn in the old ones and get new ones the next year again. I said, (2:08) come on.
It was, did Andrew eat with you? Yeah, he ate the same stew. I'm thinking, (2:21) you know, he wears his diapers. He's sick, so he can, you know, it doesn't bother him.
(2:25) Doesn't bother him. He suffered for it, right? Yeah. (2:33) So were you alerted by Joseph about the tax? That's how you found out? (2:37) Yeah.
Yeah. And I think Joanne called my wife, Janet. Okay, Joanne.
Yeah. Yeah. And told her (2:48) what was going on and she says, Janet, I'm really concerned about you and Tom and even Joe.
(2:53) And also Tracy. Yeah. But Joanne was the first one.
And then she said that, and then I think (3:00) you came in and then Joe, remember, she said she texted you all that stuff because we didn't know (3:04) anything really about it or anything at that point, other than we, as soon as you brought it (3:08) up, it answered my only question I was answering. Am I sick? Do I got the flu? Or did he do that or (3:17) whatever? And then it made sense. I says, and it was like more than once I said, you know, (3:22) and it wasn't continuously, it was like a one-time shot.
And then afterwards, the next day, right (3:28) after dinner, it happened again. And then it happened afterwards, a few days later. And then (3:35) I didn't know what was going on with Joe.
And then Joe finally said, hey dad, I got the same thing (3:40) going on, but it was at different times. I was all cleared out and better. Except for the other day, (3:44) it started again.
This time after I saw the Epsosol on the kitchen table. And I asked Jen, (3:50) I got such severe pain down here. What the blank? I got my appendix removed.
When I was a kid, (3:55) I says, it can't be that. What's going on? I says, could it be what I told you, (3:59) what I thought I saw on the table? And she says, it could depend. (4:09) Plus being on the job for on and off all day long, I says, okay, maybe that's what it is.
(4:15) There's a couple of times you couldn't even make it to the bathroom. (4:18) That's the reason why I said I would go in with you, because I told, what was his name, (4:23) Ivanovich, that I didn't tell him that, you know, my dad got it worse than I did, but I'm (4:29) telling you that he got it worse than me. I don't drink coffee.
I'm not a coffee drinker. (4:34) And I said, strangely enough, the coffee did taste a couple of bittery funny, (4:39) but every once in a while you get a bitter, uh, tasting cupcake and all that. And I think (4:43) really question it because caffeine is what I need that early in the morning to keep (4:47) alert and keep rolling.
You know, I'm an old guy. And, uh, so then I thought, geez, (4:53) a lot of them didn't taste like that, but the couple of them did. I said, (4:58) what the blank was going on? But then again, maybe it was him putting a little in there, (5:03) just enough so when it sucked it in to heat up the water, it got in my coffee.
(5:07) And then although one of you guys, I'm not sure which officer said what time you'd know if they (5:11) put it in, you can taste it. And I had to ask my wife that question too. If you put Epsom salt (5:15) in a coffee or something, can you taste chances? No, that's actually, there's no taste to it.
(5:22) Little after eating, you started getting sick? (5:26) No, it was about six hours, six, seven hours. It wasn't immediately. That's the other reason why (5:32) I got suspicious.
And I asked her and she said, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's about the time it would (5:36) take to penetrate to go through. How are you feeling sick? (5:43) A real bad double up cramps, almost as bad as where you want to go to the hospital.
(5:55) And then finally getting the urge to go, but it took a while. And then it took a while to (6:01) get out of there where I still had the cramps for a while longer. Okay.
So you were in the (6:04) bathroom quite a bit. And it was a bad, bad stomachache. And I think mom said the same (6:12) thing.
She had that real bad cramps. And I doubt if it was food poisoning. (6:22) I mean, that's the scary part.
Is it or isn't it? You know what I mean? (6:27) I mean, if it is that bottle, that stuff behind the entertainment center, that don't have taste. (6:34) That's, I think that's prescription. I think that's the, you know, (6:38) the bottle I showed you.
I think that's Miralax. Miralax doesn't usually have a taste. (6:48) Was that the one maybe the doctor gave him when he had the colonoscopy a few years ago, (6:56) Jeff? It might have been, I don't know.
But why all of a sudden it's setting out again? Because (7:00) I took all the medicines, all the pills and everything and put it in that big red bag, (7:05) all those prescriptions. So what happened after you were done being sick? (7:13) Afterwards, I felt, you know, there was nothing wrong. I was fine.
(7:16) Okay. You were mentioning about coffee though, too. (7:19) Yeah.
(7:20) It was that day that you had coffee and you noticed it tasted a little better (7:24) or was it a different day? And did you get sick after that? (7:28) I think it was that. Yeah. That was the day that I had the coffee in the morning when we (7:33) do the papers.
And then afterwards I come home, I ate breakfast before taking Jan's breakfast (7:39) upstairs to her to the bedroom. And then I noticed the Epsom salt container sitting on (7:44) the kitchen table. And I thought, uh-oh.
Okay. That same day you had coffee and it tasted... (7:53) And all this stuff stopped when we stopped drinking anything at the house and went to (7:57) Tim Hortons for coffee in the morning. (7:59) Yeah.
So since then you've stopped drinking coffee? (8:01) Yeah, I stopped drinking coffee. But then again, when I started drinking up again, (8:05) I started kind of trusting him again. He denied it and he didn't and all this.
(8:10) And I said, okay, the only way I do this is I don't fill the reservoir up in the coffee (8:15) machine until I'm ready. And I just pour enough filter water in it. (8:19) For you to have coffee.
(8:20) I have one thick of coffee. So I know it's fresh right from the faucet. Get a filter (8:24) because I have a burrata and put that in there and then... (8:28) You know, one thing I've been noticing though, though, you remember the (8:31) Keurig's been clogging up a lot lately, too.
(8:34) Yeah. Well, it might be like a paste... (8:37) Where did you find the bottle of Epsom salts? (8:39) On the kitchen table where I eat in the morning. (8:49) No, I didn't take a picture of it, but I picked it up and I put it in the attic to hide it.
(8:54) Did you think it was strange? (8:56) Very strange. (8:56) Why? (8:57) Well, because we never had that stuff out. And I can't remember the last time we had that (9:01) for anything.
And I don't think... And I know it wasn't underneath the sink in the bathroom (9:11) where we would be storing it. Here's the reason why. Because recently I had some plumbing issues (9:16) and I had to do the pipe because Eddie plugged something up in there, I think, or whatever.
(9:22) And I took everything out of it and I didn't put anything back in it. (9:26) And I don't even know where he got that from. He must have maybe had it hidden all along (9:30) for himself.
So I'm thinking this game has been going on for some time now. (9:36) What if we go home and he starts, you know, being, you know, abusive? Should we call you guys? (9:42) Absolutely. (9:44) Because I know when he's trying to get killed.
(9:46) Because I'm thinking... Because he's a smart person. He's going to figure it out, you know, (9:53) because we're not going to tell him, but he's a smart man. He's a smart person.
(9:58) Here's the other thing. Mom's still sitting at the dining room table, is she? (10:02) I don't know. (10:03) I hope he isn't going and getting all over her in the face because nobody's there to (10:07) know what's going on.
(10:08) Send her a text to check on her, see how you're doing. (10:11) Yeah, see how you're doing, tell her you'll be home soon. (10:14) Yeah, because if you make an obvious call, Andy's going to wonder, who's that? And I want to talk.
(10:23) Okay, did you ever ask... Did you ask Andy about it? (10:27) I asked him, but he didn't know anything about it. (10:31) Now, one afternoon, he was calling the dispatch here, and I heard he was threatening whoever (10:42) he was talking to, and he said, fine, that I'm going to break... I'm going to do a crime (10:48) so you guys can arrest me, because he wanted you guys to arrest him and all this stuff. (10:52) I figured, he's got to be crazy.
(10:57) And he says the food's pretty good there. I'm like, really? (11:00) He says, oh, the goulash is real good, Dad. It tastes like yours.
(11:04) And I think, gee, thanks. Is my goulash that bad? (11:08) I hope not. (11:11) Although I don't make it from scratch anymore like we used to.
(11:14) Go to Walmart and buy the jar stuff and put some extra ingredients in it, you know, warm (11:19) it up, make it quick. (11:23) It's better the next day, too. (11:24) Believe it or not, Walmart's brands of sauces are really good, even their pizza sauce.
(11:28) They make homemade pizza. It's really great. (11:31) I gotta tell you, wife, we can't have imposter sauce.
(11:33) No. (11:34) No, she won't have it. (11:36) It's got to be Mom's, Mom's scratch.
(11:38) Off of scratch, that's all. (11:41) Once she was healthy, we always had everything. (11:46) The good old days, I kind of miss that stuff, because that was awesome stuff, you know.
(11:50) There's no replacing it, right? (11:51) No, you can't replace it. (11:53) All right, so why did you come to the police station originally? (12:01) You're talking about the other day? (12:03) Yeah. (12:03) We came to talk to an officer about possibly find out what our rights are and find out (12:09) if there's any chance Andy could be arrested for that, because there's a suspicion that (12:14) if he does that, he could probably take one of our prescription drugs or one of the other (12:18) things, get all of them, and even if it was accidentally, put it in something and get (12:22) us really sick or even worse.
(12:26) And that's when they suggested that we should lock up and put our prescriptions away just (12:30) in case, and there was nothing they could do about it at the time. (12:34) Oh, yeah, another thing, I forgot to tell, remember those pills you found on me? (12:40) Yeah, we didn't know. (12:40) I don't think they knew about all the text messages and stuff then.
(12:44) Well, we showed them some of them. (12:45) Oh, really? (12:46) Yeah. (12:46) Okay.
(12:46) Yeah, and she didn't say. (12:48) I dove into it a little further. (12:49) Yeah, because we showed her the bag, we showed her the text, and I think, did you play one (12:54) of the phone conversations from Joanne? (12:56) Because Joanne was the one that was really worried, especially about mom.
(13:00) No, it was Tracy that was. (13:02) Tracy? (13:03) Okay, one of them, two ladies. (13:04) And I know that my wife and Tracy and Joanne, we do a three-way a lot of times, and sometimes (13:09) being ladies, they talk for hours, and not just about Andy, but a lot of other things, (13:14) so I don't want to get into it, you know.
(13:17) But my wife, she'll tell me what's going on. (13:20) You know what's also funny is I found a coupon. (13:23) I showed Dad there was a coupon, though this could be.
(13:26) What? (13:26) This could just have randomly happened, I'm not sure, but there was a random coupon from (13:31) you. (13:32) Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. (13:33) But it was outdated.
(13:34) It was outdated. (13:35) It was outdated. (13:36) But he might have kept it just in case and didn't realize it.
(13:38) He did without. (13:40) So what are your concerns, Mr. Ditch? (13:43) Safety with him. (13:47) It's going to hurt somebody or hurt himself, especially us, I think.
(13:54) It's probably going to affect Mom the most. (13:56) Yeah, well, Mom's going to be really upset, like she wasn't before, because no matter (14:02) what, it's her baby, and it always is. (14:05) I know how motherhood is and all that.
(14:07) And I said, we've tried every darn thing to get him the help he needs and try to get a (14:13) place to sleep. (14:13) Every time we get close to where he's going to get the autism test and also get placed (14:18) in a home, a residential, he blows it. (14:22) And he denies it.
(14:23) He blames it on her. (14:25) I want to put this bag over there. (14:26) So how did this come into play? (14:31) He saw two of your officers.
(14:33) The night he was in the park and he ran away. (14:35) And I think it was Officer... (14:40) Oh, which one of them? (14:46) Joe. (14:47) That's okay.
(14:48) Anyways, whatever officers caught him in the park, told him he can't stay overnight. (14:52) He said he would run away from home. (14:54) He had no place to go.
(14:55) And they told him he had to leave. (14:57) Well, apparently Andy was asking questions and told him about this and showed him the (15:01) bag and all this stuff. (15:03) And then that morning, he confronted me by, okay, I opened the bag, tested and everything, (15:08) because you accused me of this bag.
(15:10) This is the bag. (15:11) I took a picture and sent it to Joanne and all this other stuff. (15:15) And this is what's in it.
(15:16) And he threw it at me at the bed and he left the room. (15:20) He was denying that it wasn't anything else. (15:27) And does that really look like the bag that he photographed that he sent to Joanne? (15:33) That's what I questioned.
(15:34) So he said that you put this in your phone? (15:36) No, no, no. (15:37) I don't even know why he did that. (15:39) He just took a picture of it.
(15:40) I think he took a picture and said, do you think a police officer would be fooled what (15:47) this is? (15:54) Maybe he still has the original bag and he's just used this as a decoy. (16:00) Yeah, maybe. (16:01) There's numbers and stuff on the top of this, too.
(16:04) I did this. (16:05) This is my evidence. (16:06) Oh, okay.
(16:07) It's my son's numbers. (16:08) I thought maybe he did it. (16:09) I wouldn't know.
(16:11) No, that's correct. (16:12) That's evidence data on there. (16:14) Yeah, that's the original bag.
(16:16) Yeah, okay. (16:18) Does that look like the same one? (16:20) It looks like the one on this looks larger. (16:22) It looks like a lot more in that package, too.
(16:25) And that's what I told Andy. (16:27) And Andy started to argue with me. (16:33) It sure does.
(16:34) And I told him, Andy, it's not the same one. (16:36) Oh, yes, it is. (16:37) I said, no, I don't buy it.
(16:39) And mom says she was examining that one. (16:41) She says it looks like it's got like crystals in it, (16:44) which would indicate that it would have something else mixed with it. (16:50) Sure, sure.
(16:52) And Andy was arguing with her, too. (16:55) And I thought, okay, if anybody would know, it would be mom because she's (16:58) been around a lot of medicines and stuff. (17:00) And she does get clear-headed at times where she's really bright like she used to be.
(17:05) And it seemed like she was at that moment and she (17:09) put a few cents in and put an opinion into what she thought. (17:13) And Andy did not like that at all. (17:16) I was sitting right there at the bedroom table when he brought it up.
(17:19) Oh, no. (17:20) We're going to get argued. (17:22) I got tons of recordings of my advice from Andy.
(17:26) Just now? (17:27) No, no, no, from the past. (17:29) I got everything, too. (17:32) Officer Strowski said, you know, sooner or later one of these days, (17:34) it's going to get you in trouble.
(17:35) So I advise you to record every single thing he does when you're with him. (17:42) Because you never know when Andy's going to hit the switch. (17:46) Thank you.
(17:47) Yeah, just like when my dad was swearing in the refrigerator (17:50) and Andy got him in trouble for it. (17:51) Yeah, swearing in the refrigerator about him eating my meatloaf. (17:54) That's what I'm trying to do again.
(17:58) Well, I know he's trying to do it. (18:00) He's looking for anything and everything. (18:01) He's trying to set me up.
(18:04) He's even trying to get her arrested or in trouble, lying and stuff. (18:07) I said, Andy, you know what you'd do if you got her in trouble and it was false (18:12) and she got in jail or something? (18:15) I'd probably kill her. (18:25) So would it be fair for you to say that you want Andy to get help and to be placed? (18:31) That's what we've been hoping for.
(18:35) 110%. (18:36) Yeah, we like your suggestion of the mental health court. (18:40) Maybe put that in the notes if there's a way that he can, you know, tell them.
(18:48) The only thing is, he's still got the battle. (18:51) He's got the attorney. (18:53) And if he's got the attorney that finds a loophole to try to get him out of there (18:57) because he's going on horizons and they're on the way to helping him and doing stuff, (19:01) they might throw the whole thing out.
(19:05) So I'm going to print one of these out and have you read it. (19:07) Make sure it's accurate. (19:08) If there's anything you can add or take out, please let me know, okay? (19:11) I'll do the spellcheck.
(19:12) The other question I got is that when I talked to the other detectives the other day, (19:18) they said that whether or not this would be enough evidence and enough of anything (19:24) to even accuse or even send Andy up for a trial or anything is very questionable (19:33) because we really never really saw him doing any of this stuff. (19:35) We're only speculating on pictures and all this other stuff. (19:38) You know, you getting sick, him trying to cover things up.
(19:44) I mean, that's all evidence. (19:45) That's all physical evidence. (19:47) Him yelling at me on the phone today, (19:50) not wanting you guys to come here and sign something.
(19:53) Did he say that to you too? (19:54) No, yeah, we heard him. (19:55) I'm going to put that in. (19:56) I'm going to put that in.
(19:56) We heard him. (19:57) So don't hold off on saying anything. (19:59) Well, no, he's just reading that to make sure.
(20:03) Yeah. (20:04) Yeah, you remember he was yelling at you. (20:05) He was yelling at us too.
(20:10) So he definitely knows he did something wrong. (20:23) And like you originally said, (20:25) what happens when you get to hold prescription drugs? (20:28) Yeah. (20:28) Drugs like blood pressure medicines.
(20:33) There has also been times at work, I'm not sure if this is related, (20:36) I'm busy, but that could be something else entirely. (20:41) I don't know. (21:24) I mean, you're worried that his attorney is going to find a loophole.
(21:36) But I think we also have, I mean, based on his records, (21:40) I think you could also go on saying that he doesn't want to help himself (21:44) because all the, you know, places he's been denied. (21:47) When did he, when was he falling apart? (21:48) About how long ago? (21:50) When did he fall apart? (21:51) No, he was at the park with Scarapino. (21:55) Officer Scarapino, I think, picked him up.
(21:57) Oh, those times? (21:57) Yeah, it was the same day we saw the particular officer. (22:00) But I can't remember the other officer. (22:03) Okay, that's one, yeah? (22:05) No, that's one.
(22:06) Yeah, because when Andy, we knew he was gone when we came back and everything. (22:09) We didn't know. (22:10) I went to look for him upstairs and he wasn't there.
(22:12) And I asked my wife, my wife had no idea. (22:14) And then when he came back in, he was mad. (22:16) When you say the park, you're talking about the river here? (22:18) Yeah.
(22:19) Okay. (22:19) Yeah. (22:19) I don't, and anyways, he said the, then he came over here from the police, (22:24) from there to the police station.
(22:25) And he said he brought this bag and showed him and asked him to have it tested (22:29) because we were accused of this stuff. (22:31) That was the same thing when later on he came at the house (22:35) and he came into my room when I was sleeping (22:37) because, you know, working nights, we always sleep. (22:40) Turned the day to a certain extent.
(22:41) And he threw it on the bed and started questioning me. (22:44) And he says, here, I had it checked and they refused to check it (22:46) because they know that it's cornstarch. (22:49) I didn't do anything at all.
(22:50) It's other black, black, black. (22:52) And then I put it on my dresser and left it there. (22:54) It might've been suicidal that night if it was by the river.
(22:57) You know, Joe, there's so many things going on and everything in details. (23:01) Yeah. (23:01) No, it's a lot to keep up with.
(23:03) I mean, he definitely, he definitely is. (23:06) I mean, I've seen a lot of evidence that he's also been depressed (23:12) because he's been talking to the, you know, the waitresses at, like, say, Pizza Hut. (23:18) And he wishes that he could have a family, (23:22) but he says he can't have one because he doesn't want them to rely on him.
(23:25) That was on YouTube too. (23:26) Yeah. (23:26) And he wants us, he wants to have a group thing.
(23:29) He wanted to go to a pumpkin farm too lately. (23:31) And he kind of blew that with his behavior that one night. (23:34) He really got so bad at it.
(23:35) Burger King didn't allow me to bring Andy back. (23:40) And because he scared a bunch of the patrons that came in for ordering their food. (23:46) They turned around and left.
(23:48) And some of them were already sitting down to eat their sandwiches. (23:51) And they up and left too. (23:52) And it's like, I says, look, I'm sorry.
(23:55) Here's his text message. (23:56) So he's definitely keeping an eye on us. (23:59) So you want me to sign this one or is there another one that we're going to do or what? (24:05) No, no, no.
(24:05) That one, I'm going to throw that one out. (24:06) I did some re-typing here. (24:09) Oh, okay.
(24:13) There's so much going on. (24:15) But now I did remember that he's a lieutenant now too, right? (24:19) Scarpino. (24:19) Yeah, Scarpino's old.
(24:21) I mean, it's hard to keep track. (24:23) Because when them boys first came in here, they were just officers. (24:26) Just a little while ago, you made yourself to it.
(24:30) All you guys are getting up and the other guys are all saying, see you have fun. (24:36) We put our time in. (24:38) And it doesn't take long either.
(24:41) So I'll tell you, time flies after a while. (24:43) It doesn't seem like it at first. (24:45) Like Nathan's been here 11 or 12 years already now.
(24:47) Yeah, I got hired before him, so yeah. (24:50) You were here a little before him? (24:51) One year before him, yeah. (24:52) No kidding.
(24:54) I'm going on 13. (24:56) I say you guys in the fire department has the toughest jobs out there. (25:02) Yeah, you guess.
(25:04) It's a tough one because you got a bunch of people that are (25:08) unbelievable, huh? (25:09) And the firefighters that are going in the burning buildings. (25:14) So you're going to sign on all four copies on this line, okay? (25:19) Is that a black one? (25:21) Yeah, it's one of Andy's old business bets. (25:24) That's the other thing.
(25:25) Andy used to be in the computer business, remember? (25:27) And he made a lot of money and he was really good at everything. (25:29) And I told Andy, there is something wrong with you, Andy, that you don't even run. (25:34) And he loves doing that stuff.
(25:36) And I told him he wanted more money because I got excess dollars money, right? (25:40) And I'm not giving him out like adult crisis services were doing (25:46) because they were managing his money. (25:48) So he doesn't waste one day on every stupid thing you could possibly buy. (25:51) And he's getting angry and mad and all this stuff.
(25:53) And I said, you know what? (25:54) If you want extra money, Andy, why don't you open up your business and start (25:58) advising people on problems with the computer. (26:00) He was good at it. (26:02) And he kept him out of trouble too, I would think.
(26:05) Yeah, absolutely. (26:07) Because he was dealing with, you know, actual customers. (26:10) And he doesn't want to talk to your problems in front of the customer.
(26:14) I wouldn't. (26:22) Granted, he learned from me, but, you know, he was good. (26:31) He was honest.
(26:32) And he was very fair in the prices compared with a lot of these other places. (26:37) So people that couldn't afford these big store repair shops, (26:45) I mean, they were really amazed afterwards. (26:48) At first, they were skeptical.
(26:49) I remember being there a lot of times when he was there and all this. (26:51) And they said, wow, I'm going to recommend you to so-and-so and all this. (26:55) And all of a sudden, more people over knows.
(26:58) And he was honest about it, whether or not he could repair it. (27:00) Or even if it was worthwhile, a lot of companies would say, (27:03) oh, yeah, I can fix that. (27:04) But it's going to cost you 700 bucks.
(27:07) Well, you might as well throw it out and buy a new one. (27:09) You know what I mean? (27:10) And I said, Andy, sometimes you're a little too honest. (27:13) Because you're also in there to make some business and make some money.
(27:16) And you wouldn't charge him for looking at it. (27:18) I said, you still spend a half an hour to two hours looking at it. (27:21) He did it for free.
(27:22) Yeah. (27:23) A lot of people got good deals with him. (27:25) Yeah, absolutely.
(27:26) Well, I didn't have to pay for electricity. (27:28) Well, yeah, that's right. (27:29) It was out of Dan's pocket, like everything.
(27:41) Well, he has a picture of the ceiling in the... (27:44) Or he has a video of him looking at the ceiling with light bulbs in the living room. (27:48) Right now? (27:50) Yeah. (28:28) So basically, mental health court basically upholds like Megan's Law or Kendra's Law, (28:34) whatever it was.
(28:36) Well, you know, I did ask you guys that in the past. (28:39) And it's not you. (28:40) Yeah.
(28:41) Specifically, I said it's Megan's Law. (28:42) And he goes, I forgot which officer. (28:45) We've seen all you guys.
(28:47) And I says, Megan's Law is that a person that had a problem like Andy that was going to a (28:55) psychiatrist that prescribed a certain medication to keep him under control, keep him fairly (29:01) normal. (29:02) I said, Andy has medication. (29:04) And I know my wife was checking and counting it.
(29:07) But we couldn't force him to take it any longer because he was already 21 at the time. (29:12) This is going back a few years. (29:13) It says, but with Megan's Law that the New York State, I do believe, put it in law that (29:19) if you had a mental issue and you were prescribed a certain thing that was supposed to keep (29:23) you on track and you didn't cause problems because we now and then still had to call you (29:27) guys and that you could force him somehow or somebody could force him to take that medication.
(29:38) And then he's all right as long as he's taking the meds.

Spoiler: Last 15 minutes/drive home

(0:00) I was told that there was no such thing. And I thought, "gee, that's awful strange," (0:07) because one of the reasons why they put that low, in fact, it wasn't for this guy. (0:11) If he thought he was all right and he didn't need his meds like Andy, he would (0:15) have never murdered that poor innocent girl. And what he did brutally, how he (0:20) tortured her before putting her out of her misery, I mean, God forbid, you know, (0:28) any of these guys that have got these issues of mental should be on their (0:32) medication and being checked by the doctors. And if they're not, and they're (0:36) reported, they should be brought in.
(0:38) Yeah.
(0"39) And I also think-
(0:40) But, couldn't get them, pull them in.
(0:42) I also think, even though, you know, the HIPAA law protects everyone, I think if it's mental and if it's serious, (0:51) that, you know, all every, all the, you know, local officers, and I'm not sure if you guys can (0:57) pull up someone's, you know, mental health issue.
(1:01) We can't.
(1:01) Can't. They can't.
(1:02) But I think you guys should have access to it, because they could be considered a danger to themselves or someone else.
(1:08) Right, right. And that's kind of what crisis services does.
(1:11) Let me ask you this. When did they change the law that one, like a couple, a few times we've called you people. (1:17) Back in the day, we called one of your officers, and you checked Andy out, (1:22) and we requested he could go to CPAP, and call an ambulance. (1:27) But every time in the last few years when we ask and request that, (1:32) you guys have come over and says legally we can't do that, we can't force them to do anything.
(1:36) I don't know.
(1:37) How did that change?
(1:38) It's always, it's been that way since I've been on. (1:40) Like I said, I've been on for almost 13 years now. (1:44) So, there's different parts of the mental health law, and we have to follow the 914 part of it. (1:51) And we can only send somebody up for a mental evaluation if they're suicidal.
(1:57) That's what you were telling me.
(1:58) Yeah.
(1:58) That's what they're saying. (1:59) Yeah. (1:59) At the parking lot.
(2:00) So, what crisis services can do is what's called a 945. (2:04) And that's part of the mental health law, that they can send anybody up that they... deem is not acting right, (2:11) or need some sort of further assistance.
(2:13) How do they do that?
(2:14) And the reason they do that is because we're not trained counselors.
(2:17) Yeah, yeah. (2:18) We have some background.
(2:18) Yeah, but you got a little bit of field to know whether that person's going to hurt himself or hurt someone else.
(2:24) So, what we can do, what we do, if we feel like they're a little off-kilter from what their norm is, their baseline, (2:31) we'll call crisis services, and then they can go further than what we can.
(2:35) How come some of you guys, I'm not blaming you or anything, because I don't know what it was, (2:39) didn't phone them because I told him. (2:40) I says, you know, it's really bad.
(2:42) I says, and he doesn't want to go. (2:43) I says, he has to go. (2:45) I know, I know, I know.
(2:46) But I wish I would have known that other little secret number to the crisis service. (2:50) I would have called him myself and continued it. (2:52) Because I know I've talked to them several times, and it wound up to be that they couldn't do anything either. (2:59) Not even get them out of the house overnight.
(3:01) So, sometimes people are deemed not to, at that moment, to have mental issues. (3:11) They're having behavioral issues. (3:12) So, there's a difference. (3:15) And not to say that that person isn't mental, but some people in their psychosis have behavioral issues as well. (3:24) So, they kind of read between that and say, okay, he's just being defiant right now
(3:28) He's not really being, you know, he's not seeing ghosts. (3:31) Yeah, there's a difference, right. (3:32) You know, stuff like that. (3:34) So, that's how that works. (3:36) And that's really, you know, if they didn't do that right now, (3:42) ECMC would be wall-to-wall.
(3:45) Yeah.
(3:45) Yeah, because see, the other thing is, the other funny part of all this, (3:48) as soon as he knew we called it in, or Jan called it in, or one of us called it in, (3:52) it would go straight down and act like nothing happened. (3:55) And then after he talked to one of you guys, (3:57) I know one on one basis, one officer talked to us, the other one talked to him, (4:01) then it would go away for a while, and then gradually, slowly build up again. (4:06) Yeah.
(4:07) You know? (4:08) But lately, it's just been bloop bloop bloop...
(4:10) And you know what it is. (4:12) I mean, look at what he was doing on the phone with you and everything. (4:14) And I asked him, look, Andy, it's none of your business. (4:16) I don't want you getting into it. (4:19) And I will find out what's going on. (4:20) I was wondering, I said, I missed the phone call the other day, on Sunday, (4:24) because I was watching the Bill's game, but I sleep in the daytime.
(4:27) Yeah, that's all right.
(4:27) And I thought, well, you know. (4:29) I'm not mad.
(4:29) And I says, Joe, we've got to catch up to him. (4:32) I said, I've got to get a phone call and find out what's going on. (4:35) Because I've got a funny feeling there's something's serious about Andy. (4:38) And Andy is not telling us what's going on. (4:42) Because just the way he's acting.
(4:44) I was concerned.
(4:45) He's acting very strange.
(4:46) So I took over Joe's position. (4:47) I'm the family offense and domestic and child detective, OK?
(4:53) Yeah.
(4:53) And so I review the domestic incident reports. (4:56) I do review any kind of domestic reports. (4:58) And I found this really concerning. (5:01) And that's why I was contacting you. (5:03) Because it is concerning. (5:04) And so many other people have concerns as well.
(5:07) Exactly.
(5:07) So, you know, I think more needed to be done than what was done. (5:12) And this is what I can do.
(5:14) Yeah, and you'd think that Horizon's just taking way too long. (5:18) You have another case.
(5:19) Well, it's not their fault. (5:20) It's just their process. (5:21) You know, every time he goes to a new counselor, they have to get to know him.
(5:24) Well, don't forget, he went back after they dropped him last year.
(5:28) He was at Horizon.
(5:29) And that's why he went back there. (5:31) Because he found out that they were willing to help him this time. (5:33) And this is the other strange thing since Andy left there. (5:37) They didn't deal with autism and a lot of other issues, mental things. (5:41) Now they've got a whole new string of everything going on. (5:45) And that's why these doctors, three of them were there today. (5:48) And I was really impressed by them. (5:50) And they wanted to make sure they're going to get the right medication. (5:53) But that still doesn't guarantee once they tell, (5:55) hey, Andy, you've got to take such and such a thing. (5:57) Or you've got to do such and such a thing. (6:00) Or wherever we're going to put you, Andy.
(6:03) It doesn't mean he can do that or will do it. (6:05) And we can't watch him. (6:07) We can't force him to take the medication. (6:08) And like you said, he could turn around and say, (6:10) I want to fire all of them like he's done in the past for other places.
(6:14) Because he doesn't like the outcome.
(6:15) He doesn't like it. (6:16) He don't want to hear it. (6:17) All he wants is autism. (6:19) And you probably heard this, Ward.
(6:21) All I'm asking for is "I want help. (6:23) I want help. (6:25) I want help."
(6:26) And how can you get help if you can't help yourself first? (6:29) You can't get help. (6:30) And he don't like to get help. (6:31) Your little tell-tale Andy is like, Andy, (6:35) you're only hurting yourself by not going to these.
(6:37) Yeah, let these people help you. (6:40) Yeah.
(6:40) Well, let me get you guys out of here.
(6:42) You probably want to get out of here.
(6:43) Well, you know what? (6:44) We probably kept you overtime. (6:46) That's OK. (6:46) I'm going to get shorter hours tomorrow.
(6:47) That's OK. (6:48) I'm here to help you. (6:49) If I've got to stay to do that, I'll do that.
(6:51) Nobody needs me here. (6:52) All right.
*less discernible while walking*
(7:07) I'll follow you up the stairs.
(7:10) And let's see. (7:11) It's 12.30. (7:12) We go in about two to three hours.
(7:16) You've got a order of protection. (7:18) He can't harass you. (7:20) So he's got to watch what he does.
(7:22) Don't buy into it. (7:23) Don't get ahead. (7:24) Don't, don't. (7:25) You know he's going to cry. (7:28) He's going to call us 85 times. (7:31) And I've already instructed dispatcher just to put him (7:33) through to me.
*still less discernible while walking*
(7:34) I'm not telling him to go. (7:35) I don't have to stop him. (7:36) Right.
(7:38) So I know it's easier for you to stay at your house. (7:42) But you've got to do what you've got to do in your house.
(7:48) Can I ask you something?
(7:49) Yeah, go ahead.
(7:50) Could they get one of the officers around to say, (7:55) 4-4.30? (7:57) Go by the house and maybe call him to make sure she's (8:01) all right and put him in there? (8:03) Because I doubt very much Andy will go with us. (8:05) Well, we leave at 2:30. (8:07) Yeah, but I'm figuring, doing a little lead way now. (8:10) Right away as we leave.
(8:11) But just in case, like, check to make sure she's okay. (8:15) Yeah. (8:16) Yeah.
(8:16) Why don't you. (8:19) Because I've got a funny feeling Andy's not. (8:21) She probably won't be able to do what I'm thinking.
(8:23) And I got that. (8:24) And I'm feeling he's going to be in her face as soon as we (8:27) leave.
(8:28) So why don't you do this? (8:30) So we don't spark any more attention.m(8:31) Why don't you, while you're out, text her to see how she's (8:34) doing. (8:35) All right. (8:35) And if she's, you know, if it seems weird, give us a shout (8:39) and ask to do a welfare check.
(8:41) Okay. (8:41) That's an idea. (8:42) Okay.
(8:42) And I'll have. (8:44) I'll brief him. (8:45) All right.
(8:46) Just in case. (8:47) I mean, I want to make sure she's protected. (8:49) Yeah.
(8:49) She's always mentioned how scared she is. (8:51) Absolutely. (8:53) See you later guys.(8:55) All right. (8:56) Just, um, you emailed me all that stuff, right?
(8:59) Yeah.
(8:59) Don't let Andy see that alone.
(9:03) I'm going to try and get the paperwork done. (9:07) You know, I got to do all the paperwork and the report and (9:09) stuff. (9:09) So hopefully, um, I got to do it tomorrow (9:13) 'cause I'm actually on vacation tomorrow, but I'll come in and (9:15) get it done. (9:16) And hopefully this week it gets approved and I get the letter (9:20) in the mail. (9:20) All right.
(9:21) Okay. (9:22) All right. (9:23) Thanks.
(9:23) Yep. (9:33) Yeah.

*Mostly unintelligible for the next minute while walking from police station*

(9:41) Yeah.

*Still mostly unintelligible while walking. Joe talking and Tom largely agreeing.*

(10:37) Yeah, because he was giving us a hard time, me and my mom, about him not going, not going (10:42) to see the doctor. (10:44) Because mom wouldn't fill out the papers, that doctor didn't even want the papers, she (10:48) didn't even know.
(10:49) But Andy gave us the exact same thing he would've if he gave it to us. (10:52) But some of it was kind of important because I said I mentioned some of the stuff that (10:56) mom mentioned that describes Andy. (10:59) And they right away write it on the piece of paper.
(11:02) Which is also a fact that, you know, perhaps we should. (11:09) I'm almost worried for mom. (11:11) I wonder if it's better to have her go with him.
(11:13) If we do that, it'll make it really more suspicious. (11:17) Besides, if he gets in these guys' faces too much, I think they'll take care of it by locking (11:22) them up. (11:23) I don't think they're going to... (11:24) Yeah, then that case will be, you know, expedited.
(11:29) And he's been acting strange. (11:32) A lot more stranger now than... (11:35) But the problem is, he claims he didn't do it. (11:37) And I'm thinking, benefit of the doubt, but I don't know.
(11:41) I don't know what he did. (11:41) First I thought he did it, and then I thought, no. (11:44) But now that you brought up the other bottle again, it seems like every time one bottle (11:47) disappears, another one shows up.
(11:50) And why would he leave it out for us to see? (11:53) So that's the other problem. (11:55) If he's doing it to us. (11:56) Because he would love to see us have to go all over the place when he was doing papers.
(12:01) Like I did that one time. (12:03) Yeah. (12:05) This is so fucking funny.
(12:07) And I don't think any drug, anything for a person is funny. (12:11) I think from now on, until he gets in the court, I know it's going to be a burden not (12:21) fucking drink the water at home. (12:23) If it is, drink it.
(12:25) If you're going to do it, you have to do it. (12:28) Do it right away where you fill the filter thing right up. (12:33) Put it in there.
(12:34) And then filter it that way. (12:36) If you need to fix it for something. (12:39) You know what I mean? (12:40) And then wait for all the other drinks to be straight from the bucket.
(12:44) I was thinking he would probably still catch on. (12:55) Well, I could just go buy a bottle of water and start using that. (12:59) And not call him an asshole. (13:00) But I don't want to make anything out of this stupid bunch of shit that's happened today (13:04) and in the past couple of years. (13:06) Yeah. (13:19) I might not be able to talk to mom or you with him around.
(13:23) Because you know he's gone. (13:25) What's it ever going to do with that trailer down the window with a lot of snow on it? (13:33) I don't know. (13:33) He should definitely get a ticket for that.
(13:35) Yeah. (13:50) Maybe we should give the officers treats for the dogs. (13:53) He's going to be like, here, here.(13:54) Because you know, Bentley would take them. (13:57) Tucker probably would too. (14:05) I don't want to get arrested.
(14:07) I don't want to get caught. (14:09) He was going to arrest them anyways. (14:12) And it might have been worse.
(14:13) I don't know. (14:14) I don't know what the right thing was to do. (14:16) I don't like it.
(14:17) I don't like it at all. (14:18) I wish Andy would just straighten out to be Andy (14:22) Because the other thing my mom said, it could be, (14:24) when he got hit by the bike, his brain is always starting to fucking wipe out. (14:28) For some reason or another.
(14:29) And they didn't find him. (14:33) And I'm wondering, okay, if he goes to criminal court for mental, (14:37) how good are they? (14:39) Are they any good or is it a bunch of BS bullshit? (15:05) America just had Tampa's police there. (15:09) What would the ammo be? (15:11) I don't know.
(15:11) Maybe a policeman. (15:16) I don't know. (15:41) And a police station.
(15:42) It should still be recording in the background as soon as you open it up. (15:44) But anyways, it's Tuesday, October 30th. (15:46) It's 1 AM.

Something that tickled my funny bone a bit is the detectives repeatedly mixing up Kendra's Law, a law that makes it so the court can order retarded-looking people to get psychiatric evaluations, with Megan's Law, the law responsible for sex offender registry notifications. A silly mix-up, or the gift of prophecy?

As predicted, none of this makes Andy look innocent. Just like an insane manbaby who needs dat hewp to get a fake autism diagnosis.

 

[Ditchstorian]

Hey dudes, just had a quick idea. Has anyone sent the photoshopped photos from andrew's yt of the child sitting on his bed to anyone? I think SunRise would probably want to see that he's posting that, it does invite extreme issues for them, plus he did that to get back at da bullies by.. once again.. pretending to be a pedophile.

He's a shocking wicked retard, you'd think his cunning and dereliction would show he's just a normal guy who's a piece of shit from birth, that murdered his own mom, not sweet li'l andy change my panty ditch

 

[Banquet Meal]

Ever lived near one?

i did once, back in my young poor era, and it SUCKED. we had rats crawling up through the drainpipes
this was a very long time ago though

that aside, andy and many like him dont care about their living conditions, as long as it was free and they didnt have to pay for anything. he is such a leech on resources that could be better spent on pretty much anyone and everything. i personally think its disgusting that the taxpayer is funding him living out his vile fetishes, letting him abuse staff members also paid for by our tax dollars, so he can shit his pants and jerk off 24/7.
he talks about not wanting to have sex (ugh) but i clearly remember someone mentioning a video of him jerking off, using his own feces as lube, which is the worst sentence i have ever typed out, EVER