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Alright, the vote is up for July and the theme is AMERICA! Just the general vibe of America, so alt-hist and mil-sci-fi and commentaries and trailblazers and all that good stuff.
I don't know if this changes anyone's vote, or even if an author's immoral behavior is even pertinent to the thread, but MRK is a fervent defender of multiple pedophiles members of NAMBLA (like author Samuel Delany) and the couple Walter Breen Jr and Marion Zimmer Bradley (convicted of raping many children, including their own son and daughter.
And as ex-president of SFWA, she directly attempted to destroy KF by personally granting fat lolcow Patrick Tomlinson the US$200k that he used to sue Josh, Quasi and other 58 John Does.
My personal 2 cents: this bitch isn't worthy of a place in hell, let alone in this list.
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a very good book that I would recommend to anyone, but I'm open to arguments in regards to why it qualifies as AMERICA! While certainly the struggle between the Loonies and the people on Earth attempting to exert control has "taxation without representation" parallels, as best I recall the Loonies are bigamists and commies. Maybe I'm just looking for a fight.
In fairness to me, using a country as a theme is difficult and we’ll have to suspend some disbelief, but that book in particular is basically the American Revolution ON DA MOON.
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a very good book that I would recommend to anyone, but I'm open to arguments in regards to why it qualifies as AMERICA! While certainly the struggle between the Loonies and the people on Earth attempting to exert control has "taxation without representation" parallels, as best I recall the Loonies are bigamists and commies. Maybe I'm just looking for a fight.
The main character goes to actual America in that one. It's a Hypertrad Christchud Repiblikkk and the first thing they do is jail him for being a polyamorous weirdo. He then spends several days shitting himself in a cell because he grew up in a sterile invironment with just 1/6th the gravity, so going down to Earth for him is like swimming in the Ganges for us. They also fire at the country while fighting for their independence, because some of the corps who own the Moon are American or something.
Speaking of Heinlein, there is "If this goes on..."
It's about a future hightech Mormon America or something. Country is a theocracy ruled by a Prophet who has a bunch of wives but then the plot happens.
It’s also the only genre that usually has niiice hardcover books. I got a copy of Clockwork Lives and Clockwork Destiny and they are absolutely beautiful books. One day I should read the first book in the trilogy but the cover is embarrassing in comparison with the other two. Wyświetl załącznik 9180027
Edit: well I went down a rabbit hole and now I'm checking out Mainspring by Jay Lake, where a clockmaker's apprentice was ordered by an archangel to find and rewind the main spring of the earth otherwise all life will cease
I picked Mainspring up on a whim months ago. I'll let you know how it is. Sadly, I can't wander around the SF/F section of a bookstore anymore and find something that looks interesting, the stock is all romantasy. Used book stores try but even they're getting too commercialized, or would it be gentrified?
Bring back beautiful cover art. Those editions are amazing.
I hope you're wrong. I enjoy LitRPGs as they are a good light read/listen for more tired day and there are some really good writers making those (Dungeon Crawler Carl and The Wandering Inn come to mind), I just can't help but think that this is the same thing that a lot of early 20th century pulp fiction came off back in the day to some people. I ain't saying the whole genre is perfect (with pulp fiction we have a century long filter ensuring the trash remained forgotten while the stars lived on) but it has proven me wrong enough times to make me give it the benefit of a doubt even if I dismiss those more times than I care to count. And that fucking awful romantasy smut trend that BookTok is constantly gooning over sure as hell gives it some points for at least not being more of that fucking shit.
Vidya and tabletop have their influences but ultimately it is used as a mechanical framework to further justify the story and setting, the writing itself tends to take it surprisingly seriously to the point where in some cases I wanna call it anti-millennial writing. Absurd situations but the protagonists take them completely seriously and try to understand the RPG system thrust upon them while doing their best to not die horribly in a new and unfamiliar world. It ain't just brainrot but a fun idea being executed well and being a fresh breath from the sea of middle aged woman's gooning material and politically driven slop at worst, and an actually interesting read at best.
Can you not do a regular poll at the top?
But I love the blurb about The Postman. I might read that one for fun.
(If that question has been asked like 14 times before me, sorry. I'm just a tourist from the cf.
Travis Corcoran's Red State Mars just came out, and it would fit nicely into this theme. I read it this past weekend and enjoyed it, although not as much as I enjoyed his Aristillus books.
Also maybe Larry Correia's American Paladin, also from Ark Press, although I haven't read it yet so can't vouch for it.
Can you not do a regular poll at the top?
But I love the blurb about The Postman. I might read that one for fun.
(If that question has been asked like 14 times before me, sorry. I'm just a tourist from the cf.
I haven't read The Postman myself, but I did read a different book Brin co-authored called Heart of the Comet. It was cool and uplifting in a unique way, and I expect The Postman to have similar qualities.
Alright, the vote is up for July and the theme is AMERICA! Just the general vibe of America, so alt-hist and mil-sci-fi and commentaries and trailblazers and all that good stuff.
We have some interesting books, I'm sure we'll get a good one.
Another great selection of books and most of these I have on my shelves.
Any of the Heinlein is a great choice but The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress is probably my choice between the two. I know that people don't like Gaiman (understandable) but American Gods is really good.
I know people love him Larry but Monster Hunter International stands as one of the few books I gave up on. The main character is such a massive Mary Sue that it's almost unreadable. I often compare Larry to Patrick Tomlinson (FAT), they have about the same amount literary talent but Larry is a marginally better writer, isn't a sperg and managed to get a decent following.
I haven't read The Postman myself, but I did read a different book Brin co-authored called Heart of the Comet. It was cool and uplifting in a unique way, and I expect The Postman to have similar qualities.
The Postman is great and is utterly different to the movie that bears it's name. Even if it doesn't win I would recommend it for a read. Brin is a good author, I liked the Uplift series even if he got wayyyy too into the sex stuff
Ah, damnit, I wanted to nominate Hardwired for America month. The plot seems to fit the theme fairly well (a cowboy hovertank pilot and a cyborg hooker assassin get caught up in a war of resistance against the globohomo megacorps that rule over a Balkanized America). And there’s some very KF relevant stuff in it that’s very funny.
Cyborg Hooker Assassin yeets a pornsick autogynophilic troon in the opening.
Cyborg Hooker Assassin’s brother is a BPD Fent addict trapped in a Femboy Grooming Gang
One of the major villains is basically Jeffery Epstein
The climax is our heroes pulling a stock short on the COVID-19 cure
Started Guards! Guards! today, as I have read it before, and messed up and accidentally downloaded the BBC Audiodrama instead of the old Nigel Planar reading. Prachett's prose is so damn good, especially when it's read to you by Planar as god intended.
Ah, damnit, I wanted to nominate Hardwired for America month. The plot seems to fit the theme fairly well (a cowboy hovertank pilot and a cyborg hooker assassin get caught up in a war of resistance against the globohomo megacorps that rule over a Balkanized America). And there’s some very KF relevant stuff in it that’s very funny.
Cyborg Hooker Assassin yeets a pornsick autogynophilic troon in the opening.
Cyborg Hooker Assassin’s brother is a BPD Fent addict trapped in a Femboy Grooming Gang
One of the major villains is basically Jeffery Epstein
The climax is our heroes pulling a stock short on the COVID-19 cure
We need to give creators the incentive of getting away with rape again so they can produce good content once more.
American Gods is the only book from this set I've read. I at worst like Gaiman's work and I think it's on the lower end of ones I really like, but above some of the enjoyable but kinda forgettable ones like The Graveyard Child or The Ocean at the End of the Lane. I do almost always recommend hearing Gaiman's narrations if you are going to do audiobook, but if it wins there is a full cast Audiodrama for it that I will partake in. The Sandman Audiodrama by Amazon is actually fantastic. The first part is a little rough, they use to many of their on contract narrators as voice actors and they aren't the same talent pool. After that it's fantastic. I would never recommend it for your first consumption of the story, but if you've read the comics, the audiodrama is a fantastic way of revisiting it. Getting John Lithgow as Emporer Norton was great.
Unfortunately the #metoo skanks couldn't wait until the last part was out before cancelling him and I feel like there is almost no chance it will be complete with Gaiman as the narrator. The final two Acts are recorded and sitting on a shelf, maybe to never be released, maybe with Gaiman's lines redone.
Neverwhere is pretty good but I feel like Gaiman was trying to ape Pratchett too much with it. Mr Croup and Mr Vandemar are standout characters but they show up very infrequently and then are thrown away. Good Omens was the pinnacle of his career and the best parts of that book are due to Pterry.
Also, I'm at the part where Carrot 'Ten Toes Down' Ironfoundersson charges two dudes and I just adore this lad. he's so funny to me. I also love Lady Ramkin, she's a blast. What's so good about this series is the incredibly diverse cast, every character is uniquely themselves and as a reader it paints a very rich and colorful world.
And throughout all the books, The Librarian is classic. I enjoyed him traveling through The Library a lot, Pratchett has a way of describing things that I personally really enjoy.
With Gaiman, American Gods was amazing. I also enjoyed Ocean at the End of The Lane, I thought it was neat enough, and Norse Mythology was really cool and I thoroughly enjoyed it. But look Tumblr did shit to people, it was real in those streets, and he shouldn't have done what he did for multiple reasons. Good Omens is amazing. It really took the strengths of the two writers and blended them perfectly, I'll have to look more into how exactly it was written but I loved that book.
Good Omens is amazing. It really took the strengths of the two writers and blended them perfectly, I'll have to look more into how exactly it was written but I loved that book.
The thing that really broke me on Gaiman wasn't the libshittery, it wasn't the rape, it was Season 2 of Good Omens.
Not anything in it, I didn't watch it on principle and the Hotwheels-esque mongloid baby man Angel justified it to me. It's that he made it at all. He had previously said he could never make a sequel to Good Omens with out Sir Pratchett, and renegging on that was his greatest offense.
Neverwhere is pretty good but I feel like Gaiman was trying to ape Pratchett too much with it. Mr Croup and Mr Vandemar are standout characters but they show up very infrequently and then are thrown away. Good Omens was the pinnacle of his career and the best parts of that book are due to Pterry.
Neverwhere is definitely one of my favorites. Everything is beneath Sandman, it is one of my favorite stories ever, but from his novels I liked it a lot. I can never hear Mr Croup and Mr Vandemar outside of his voice. Ocean I enjoyed but I feel like I've mostly forgotten, same with Norse Mythology. He also has several collections of short stories I enjoyed a lot. I think I never got around to actually reading Good Omens, same with Coraline, just seen their adaptations.
Alright, the vote is up for July and the theme is AMERICA! Just the general vibe of America, so alt-hist and mil-sci-fi and commentaries and trailblazers and random things all that good stuff.
We have some interesting books, I'm sure we'll get a good one.
I know I don't go here, but I actually have a suggestion! My dad was big into these authors Jason Anspach and Nick Cole, and they had this series of military scifi books called Forgotten Ruin! A team of US Army Rangers is sent to the far future of Earth where the world has changed so much that it's become a D&D/Tolkein style fantasy world. Imagine soldiers gunning down orcs with machine guns, that's basically what this is. I remember hearing bits of it when my dad would drive me somewhere and have the audiobook playing in his truck. The characters LOVE coffee, there's a wizard, I think the commander gets turned into a werewolf at some point, it's pretty interesting.
That's a very mixed association for a recommendation.
I don't hate the series, but I literally haven't thought of it in the years since I lost interest in it. It advertised itself as the based and red pilled Star Wars after Disney's slop, but when it was trying to ape Star Wars it was total dog shit. The more military special forces stuff focused on the StormLegionaries was ok, feels like a military recruitment propaganda, but didn't leave much impact on me.
