Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

[1999 prick]

The Joint Maritime Information Center (JMIC) announced the strait is open as per the US and Iran's intention.
Mariners are instructed to take the southern route. No mention of following or recognizing Iran's Persian Gulf Strait Authorities' (PGSA) instruction or authority over the strait.

New guidance from JMIC for ships using the southern transit of the Strait of Hormuz:
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The maritime security threat level in the SoH remains MODERATE following the announced intentions by both the United States and Iran for an opening of the waterway.
However, Mariners should be advised of the existence of mines and expect naval presence as clearance operations continue.
Mariners should also expect congestion through transit routes and potential VHF hailing from naval forces to support free flow.
Mariners are advised that they may transit the southern route day or night with their AIS on, radars radiating, running lights on, and normal use of VHF.
Mariners are strongly encouraged to maintain engagement with NCAGS and utilize established reporting and coordination procedures.
Coordination with NCAGS is not mandatory. Ships may transit the southern route without coordination.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Or any operation that damages Israel's central infrastructure?

They tried. They just missed and/or got intercepted.

The US's goal is to destroy Iran, Iran's goal is to simply not die.

If a Wolf and a Pitbull get into a fight, and the Wolf walks off with a minor tail injury and the Pitbull comes out with a swollen eye, missing ear, bleeding chest and two broken legs, would anyone claim that the Pitbull "beat" the Wolf? Did the Pitbull "win" the fight or did it merely survive?
Is the Wolf now "defeated"?

That's still just window dressing. What it boils down to is, my side can do it because it's my side, and not my side can't because it's not my side

If they were honest about this I wouldn't even care.
If it were just open and undenied tribalism, it wouldn't be as aggravating.

 

[White Goy]

Tactical Victories are not necessarily mutually exclusive with Strategic Victories.

Yep. All that matters is who controls territory and who is in a better position (not vis-à-vis but globally) than before the conflict started.

Provided Iran's leadership is coherent (it appears to be) and there's no natural disasters/black swan events like kikes nuking Tehran, they appear to be significantly better off.

-Hormuz closed way longer than anyone predicted; Iran now know they can do it
-Gulf States now understand the limits of US protection
-IRGC consolidated power
-$300B re-construction fund
-Sanctions relief
-No meaningful change re: nuclear program

Btw I'm not saying Iran are in good shape. Obviously they're not.

But before the war kicked off Gaza and Hezbollah were being dominated; Syria was lost; there were (genuine, not Mossad led) protests re: women's rights and the economy; there was a drought; sanctions were hitting harder than ever.

Can any miggers authentically, with a straight face, claim that Iran is in a worse position now as compared to 6 months ago!?

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Can any miggers authentically, with a straight face, claim that Iran is in a worse position now as compared to 6 months ago!?

Yes.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

Provided their leadership is coherent (it appears to be)

nigger even their own state propaganda admits everyone is pissed off at the civilian government and wants araghchis head on a stake for accepting the deal which somehow according to you newfags is simultaneously a terrible loss for america and not good enough for iran, meanwhile israel is still doing whatever the fuck they want.

 

[Nathan Higgers]

Can any miggers authentically, with a straight face, claim that Iran is in a worse position now as compared to 6 months ago!?

Yes, we can.

Let's look at what we, the miggers, have achieved. We killed the Gayatollah and dropped bombs on 'em. Now you may say that we achieved a total zero of the war objectives we set for ourselves, but that was just Trump doing kayfabe (classic 3AM Trump post from the golden toilet) to win us the midterms.
The important thing is that we dropped bombs on 'em and if they do not comply with our demands, we'll drop more bombs on 'em.

Let's not forget that summer will start in a few days; the summer water riots are gonna be a joy to watch and I'll see you all in that thread!

nigger even their own state propaganda admits everyone is pissed off at the civilian government and wants araghchis head on a stake for accepting the deal which somehow according to you newfags is simultaneously a terrible loss for america and not good enough for iran, meanwhile israel is still doing whatever the fuck they want.

Exactly. Everyone in Iran are pissed at the government not because they think the MoU is too lenient on the U.S. and not because it leaves a lot of stuff vague, but because it's effectively capitulation to every Trump demand from the start of the war.
As most of you already know, the MoU fully addresses proxies, missiles, nuclear, etc. which is like, every single demand the U.S. had.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Can any miggers authentically, with a straight face, claim that Iran is in a worse position now as compared to 6 months ago!?

Considering the experienced hyperinflation with 1375000 Iranian rials currently being worth $1 USD...
Considering the billions (in dollars, not rials) in war damages they've experienced with no way to fund it...
Considering the millions of jobs their economy lost due to the war...
Considering the fact that their country's Supreme Leader of decades was killed and it's unclear who actually has any governmental power whatsoever or if their new Ayatollah is even alive...
Considering the fact that their military apparatus took a severe hit reducing their navy to speedboats...
Considering that their proxy Hezbollah has been severely damaged in Lebanon with Israel marching into the nation...
Considering the US Navy is now stationed in the Gulf seemingly indefinitely pending negotiations on the MoU that will likely go nowhere...

Yeah, that seems like quite a logical takeaway to say that, actually. I'd certainly rather be Iran 6 months ago than presently, yes.

 

[harmacist]

Considering the millions of jobs their economy lost due to the war...

finally, we have buck broken the iranian job market. i will sleep well tonight

 

[White Goy]

Considering the experienced hyperinflation with 1375000 Iranian rials currently being worth $1 USD...
Considering the billions (in dollars, not rials) in war damages they've experienced with no way to fund it...
Considering the millions of jobs their economy lost due to the war...
Considering the fact that their country's Supreme Leader of decades was killed and it's unclear who actually has any governmental power whatsoever or if their new Ayatollah is even alive...
Considering the fact that their military apparatus took a severe hit reducing their navy to speedboats...
Considering that their proxy Hezbollah has been severely damaged in Lebanon with Israel marching into the nation...
Considering the US Navy is now stationed in the Gulf seemingly indefinitely pending negotiations on the MoU that will likely go nowhere...

Yeah, that seems like quite a logical takeaway to say that, actually. I'd certainly rather be Iran 6 months ago than presently, yes.

Disagree with most of it, but even granted - is the USA in a better geopolitical position compared to 6 months ago? I reckon at the very best (at the time of posting) you can claim you broke even, but I guess we'll see what happens with the MOU and the 4D chess.

 

[Schpoots]

Disagree with most of it, but even granted - is the USA in a better geopolitical position compared to 6 months ago? I reckon at the very best (at the time of posting) you can claim you broke even, but I guess we'll see what happens with the MOU and the 4D chess.

Chinas investments in Iran have been raped. (Same with venezuela and cuba)
Chinas defense technology has been proven worthless.
Europe exposed as incompetent giving us more power over them.
The US is making tons of money selling its oil.
The war helped kick start americans war manufacturing abilities.
Boot put on raytheon and other war industries necks to get their shit together.
We gathered tons of drone / AI warfare expirence.
Literally the entire middle east is aligning with america instead of china / russia.
The hormuz situation put more pressure on the US to revitalize its navy capabilities.
Iran nuclear capabilities neutralized for the foreseeable future.
Iran missiles / launchers devasated dramatically reducing their ability to harm anyone.
Iran air force and missile defense totally neutered so we can bomb them again at will.
Israel bent over because their continued survival is totally reliant on american hardware.

fag

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

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Yes.

Iran could always play the SoH card, but they did it during this war. They extracted some US concessions, but at heavy, heavy cost. Sure they can restart their nuclear program and not give it up, but they have to focus on rebuilding their SAMs, radars and defense capabilities, plus rebuild the economy to where they can afford a shock again. Right now they are counting on Trump never attacking again and will wait him out, so they are getting complacent. I also think if Mojtaba becomes unchained from the IRGC coup, he could be a wild card.

Chinas investments in Iran have been raped. (Same with venezuela and cuba)

Ive seen niggers talk about Iran getting the J-10 thinking its going to be some wunderwaffen that will save Iran. I would like to remind everyone the J-10 won against incompetent jeets flying French eurotrash. My dog could beat jeets at discipline and doctrine. If Iran flew J-10s, they would get eaten alive by F-22 or even F-15s before they even popped on their radar. Israel would blow them up before they even could take off the runway. Even if China gave Iran the J-35, they would still loose. The fact that they aren't betrays a lack of confidence in the Iranian military.

 

[Fraiser crane]

Chinas investments in Iran have been raped. (Same with venezuela and cuba)
Chinas defense technology has been proven worthless.
Europe exposed as incompetent giving us more power over them.
The US is making tons of money selling its oil.
The war helped kick start americans war manufacturing abilities.
Boot put on raytheon and other war industries necks to get their shit together.
We gathered tons of drone / AI warfare expirence.
Literally the entire middle east is aligning with america instead of china / russia.
The hormuz situation put more pressure on the US to revitalize its navy capabilities.
Iran nuclear capabilities neutralized for the foreseeable future.
Iran missiles / launchers devasated dramatically reducing their ability to harm anyone.
Iran air force and missile defense totally neutered so we can bomb them again at will.
Israel bent over because their continued survival is totally reliant on american hardware.

fag

Cope lol
NIGGA you got beaten and the century of the burger Reich humiliation was started by sand niggers (like it always would) and not china

 

[BigJoey41X]

If a Wolf and a Pitbull get into a fight, and the Wolf walks off with a minor tail injury and the Pitbull comes out with a swollen eye, missing ear, bleeding chest and two broken legs, would anyone claim that the Pitbull "beat" the Wolf? Did the Pitbull "win" the fight or did it merely survive?
Is the Wolf now "defeated"?

If the wolf was planning to take the pitbull's nuclear program permanently offline but had to settle in letting the pitbull's keep its uranium in exchange for getting their money back their ability to sell their stuff, AND also a joint investment plan between the pitbull and other dogs.

it's like you just cannot comprehend the concept of strategic objectives in warfare and the only thing that exists in your head is the destruction caused.

You know, for a guy the has the word "Pragmatist" in your username(acting on/having beliefs that are 100% based on the reality of the situation, and not from an idealistic worldview), you repeatedly demonstrate that your worldview only ever works with an incomplete version of reality; A false one, a reality that only works if certain aspects that contradict it are purposefully ignored.

 

[A random street in Duluth]

"Embargo never broke Cuba" says the enlighted BRIC sucker fresh from his multipolaring before Friday prayers.

Yes. The embargo did not break Cuba. Full stop. There is nothing to argue about it, because it is a banally obvious fact. Seething is not an argument. Expecting Iran to be broken by embargoing them is just pure, desperate cope

Right, China isn't going raise issue over their rusty sanctions being stopped, boarded and seized. For some reason non-chimp, logical behavior is only expected of the US by you BRIC sucking faggots.

Seething about China will not make the embargo work either.

While if the US doesn't get maximized gains day-1, its a huge US empire collapse and the arrival of the multipolar world.

The jewish hegemony failing to enforce its demand is a strategic defeat. Much like how Vietnam and Afghanistan were strategic defeats, no matter how much cranky boomers are whining about muh K/D

it's like you just cannot comprehend the concept of strategic objectives in warfare and the only thing that exists in your worldview is the destruction caused.

Coping season is on. Many are strangely emotionally invested into TOTALLY WINNING BIGLY everything, everywhere. It can be hard to decide if they are jewish shills, migapede boomers or just war cheerleaders, but they are extremely entertaining. Its like speedrunning watching the Afghan collapse all over again and the excuses used there,

 

[Ghostse]

Yes. The embargo did not break Cuba. Full stop. There is nothing to argue about it, because it is a banally obvious fact. Seething is not an argument. Expecting Iran to be broken by embargoing them is just pure, desperate cope

Suck that commie dick harder, maybe it turn you wishcasting brown worship to reality

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%932026_Cuba_blackouts

You are a fucking retard pulling the leftoid shit of "pretending to not understand"

Once Russia could not longer keep them bouyed, the realities quickly set in.
And now Trump didn't even need to park a CSG off their coast and they're implementing market reforms and fixed to give up the Castros. Cope harder, brown fag.

The jewish hegemony failing to enforce its demand is a strategic defeat. Much like how Vietnam and Afghanistan were strategic defeats, no matter how much cranky boomers are whining about muh K/D

Ah yes, naming the jew totally gets the attention away from all the Islamic cock you inhale.
Muh Vietnam! Cry about that harder and maybe the dead leadership will come back to life.

Seething about China will not make the embargo work either.

Excellent deflection away from you absolving the Turd World of any culpability for not behaving like raving retards.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Can any miggers authentically, with a straight face, claim that Iran is in a worse position now as compared to 6 months ago!?

It would be retarded to state otherwise, with how much of their shit got blown up. And you should start the count with "Midnight Hammer", rather than 6 months ago. Even if IRGC wasn't reduced to nothing, they most definitely suffered serious setbacks.

A lot of mockery toward America's military action and skepticism regarding its capabilities stems from deliberate refusal to acknowledge the fact that they haven't operated with the goal of exterminating their opponents, which would've been far easier. They've got the means to reduce just about any nation out there to smoking rubble, they just don't, because that hasn't been their goal. And no one would be able to prevent them from doing so other than themselves, if they so decided.

 

[ZealotCrustacean101]

I think its too early to decide who won or lost, but for those living in Iran it must fucking suck a lot now.
Edit: Do we have a Cuba thread, it might be time to keep an eye on it too. The whole thing is about to collapse on its own weight.

 

[A random street in Duluth]

Ah yes, naming the jew totally gets the attention away from all the Islamic cock you inhale.

The neurotic seething finally makes sense, I'm talking to a jew. And no, Cuba still did not break to the embargo. Its embarrassing even how hard you are fixating on something that has been settled.

They've got the means to reduce just about any nation out there to smoking rubble, they just don't, because that hasn't been their goal.

If those goals are not reached, then its a defeat. Bombing civilians into rubble does not turn it into a victory. See how Linebacker and Linebacker II did not defeat Vietnam, nor chasing the taliban into caves for decades secured a win either. Trying to pull those on Iran would just get them to crash the global economy anyway, hence this constant negotiation.

 

[TheClappening]

Considering the fact that their military apparatus took a severe hit reducing their navy to speedboats...

I'll say it's definitely badass that we scored the first torpedo kill in decades.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Im okay with the current state of the war. Ill slap one of Null's stickers on an IRIAF F-14 or IR-6 centrifuge (may be damaged) before the year is over hopefully.